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No one said that they were.Nimrod also thought that the state was everything. Then he was told:
"You have been weighed in the balance and found wanting."
And was nevermore.
Never mind with your cryptic statements. They are narrow minded and not very deep. I remember when I was a student in Bar Ilan in 1982, and took a bus to the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron. As I got off the bus, a smiling stranger met me and proceeded to take me all around the tombs. It was an hour before I found out he was an Arab. I wore a kippa, so he knew I was Jewish right away. And here in NY, I worked with an Arab who used to call me "Cousin." Not all Arabs are animals.
And.
There's nothing cryptic about you bowing to the state. Kapos did as well. Bolsheviks also.
Guys guys...
Instead of wasting time arguing about those whom the Torah calls 'no-people',
You could make Aliyah and vote in the next elections this spring.
Or before voting, join the ongoing discussions about Parliamentary Monarchy,
then instead of arguing about "bowing to state", You can argue who makes the King's Bracha and who answers Amen.
The Arabs... once relieved of the burden of playing the role the West projects on them, and responsibility for creating something they neither want nor know how, will have less psychological obstacles fitting into a power structure, an environment for which they've been wired and used to in the middle east most naturally.
All I'm saying we might not need another '67 to order things in their place,
just look at all the Arabs gathering around Rabbi Zamir Cohen...
I already have and do. Now I just come back to Canada for pension purposes and to visit.
Our left are somewhat better since they know the danger. The Western leftist Jews are far more philosophical about the danger.
js
Baruch Shuvcha Tzadik!
As regarding leftist Jews in the West, first of all there's a whole different spectrum of Judaism abroad - if in Israel, and I'll exaggerate to make a point, we're merely religious or secular, there they're confused by various new brands (conservative/progressive/reform and what else) of this and that Judaism, that to me seems to survive the "market" only as philosophical alternative, to acknowledging they're bound by commandments that can only be fulfilled in the land.
There stands a clear contradiction at this pivotal point of history, and all these trends are like psychological bandages used to distract from reality.
The question is rather how do WE assume the responsibility, and burst that bubble before time for making decisions is up?
They tried to turn us into Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans, etc.
We remain. Each time our own attempted to turn us.
We needed Moses to save us from becoming Egyptian. (Joseph) We needed Judas to save us from becoming Christian (Jesus) and we need G-d to save us from being secular.
Personal Tshuva is the answer. And like you said, the choice will be over when that bubble of division bursts.