Are Allah & God the same?

[JoelT1]

Relations between Muhammad and Jews and Christians were simple and straightforward: They rejected as ridiculous an Arab prophet arriving in a chariot carrying a sword who had a harem with 10+ wives!

Yet they managed to live very well in Muslim lands for centuries. Usually much better than they did under Christianity.

Pay the Muslims your "I'm not a Muslim" tax and they don't behead you.
Seems rather reasonable to me.

Islam is kind of like paying extortion money to the Mafia not to be murdered

 

[Indeependent]

Relations between Muhammad and Jews and Christians were simple and straightforward: They rejected as ridiculous an Arab prophet arriving in a chariot carrying a sword who had a harem with 10+ wives!

Yet they managed to live very well in Muslim lands for centuries. Usually much better than they did under Christianity.

Pay the Muslims your "I'm not a Muslim" tax and they don't behead you.
Seems rather reasonable to me.

Islam is kind of like paying extortion money to the Mafia not to be murdered

KIND of like?

 

[JoelT1]

Allah in the Koran wants Jews and Christians destroyed. Allah is not God of Jews and Christians

The Koran considers Jews and Christians to be people of the book and has a reverence for them. They are granted a special place in the Muslim world. Like the Bible, the Koran has many passages that can be contradictory when taken out of context.

God in the New Testament condemns Jews as enemies of God. He is not the God of the Jews.

The Gospel of John has long provided anti-Semites with grist for their mill.[28] There are 31 instances where the gospel uses the word Ἰουδαῖοι, the Jews in a hostile sense,[29] among the 63 uses [30] of the word in this gospel,[31] and all Jewish groups are lumped together, with no distinctions made between them. The Sadducees, prominent elsewhere, disappear.[32] The enemies of Jesus are described collectively as "the Jews", in contradistinction to the other evangelists, who do not generally [33] ascribe to "the Jews" en masse calls for the death of Jesus. In the other 3 texts, the plot to put him to death is always presented as coming from a small group of priests and rulers, the Sadducees.[31][34] John's gospel is thus the primary source of the image of "the Jews" acting collectively as the enemy of Jesus, which later became fixed in Christian minds.[35]

The NT condemns all non-Christians equally.

Um, Jesus was an Orthodox Jew

 

[Indeependent]

Allah in the Koran wants Jews and Christians destroyed. Allah is not God of Jews and Christians

The Koran considers Jews and Christians to be people of the book and has a reverence for them. They are granted a special place in the Muslim world. Like the Bible, the Koran has many passages that can be contradictory when taken out of context.

God in the New Testament condemns Jews as enemies of God. He is not the God of the Jews.

The Gospel of John has long provided anti-Semites with grist for their mill.[28] There are 31 instances where the gospel uses the word Ἰουδαῖοι, the Jews in a hostile sense,[29] among the 63 uses [30] of the word in this gospel,[31] and all Jewish groups are lumped together, with no distinctions made between them. The Sadducees, prominent elsewhere, disappear.[32] The enemies of Jesus are described collectively as "the Jews", in contradistinction to the other evangelists, who do not generally [33] ascribe to "the Jews" en masse calls for the death of Jesus. In the other 3 texts, the plot to put him to death is always presented as coming from a small group of priests and rulers, the Sadducees.[31][34] John's gospel is thus the primary source of the image of "the Jews" acting collectively as the enemy of Jesus, which later became fixed in Christian minds.[35]

The NT condemns all non-Christians equally.

Um, Jesus was an Orthodox Jew

He became an apostate because he couldn't control his OCD as was required of a student of a member of the Sanhedrin.
Plus there are more than enough Orthodox Jews who are assholes because their character attributes don't match their mechanical habits.

 

[alang1216]

Reading the NT over the weekend

Chapter & verse?

I meant that everyone hear who seems not to know the NT should stop reading sound bites and just read it and stop annoying me with their ignorant postings.

I feel the same way.

 

[irosie91]

Relations between Muhammad and Jews and Christians were simple and straightforward: They rejected as ridiculous an Arab prophet arriving in a chariot carrying a sword who had a harem with 10+ wives!

Yet they managed to live very well in Muslim lands for centuries. Usually much better than they did under Christianity.

Pay the Muslims your "I'm not a Muslim" tax and they don't behead you.
Seems rather reasonable to me.

Islam is kind of like paying extortion money to the Mafia not to be murdered

no question-----JIZYA is SHAKE DOWN money----I have often stated that muslims never invented anything----in fact
they did they invented SHAKE DOWN---popularized in the USA by the GODFATHER---but he did not invent it----muhummad did-----CORLEONE was a good muslim he emulated DA PROFFIT

 

[alang1216]

Islam is kind of like paying extortion money to the Mafia not to be murdered

Still a better deal than having all your possessions taken and then getting exiled or beheaded.

 

[rightwinger]

They look the same to me

Only their worshippers are different

 

[JoelT1]

Relations between Muhammad and Jews and Christians were simple and straightforward: They rejected as ridiculous an Arab prophet arriving in a chariot carrying a sword who had a harem with 10+ wives!

Yet they managed to live very well in Muslim lands for centuries. Usually much better than they did under Christianity.

Pay the Muslims your "I'm not a Muslim" tax and they don't behead you.
Seems rather reasonable to me.

Islam is kind of like paying extortion money to the Mafia not to be murdered

no question-----JIZYA is SHAKE DOWN money----I have often stated that muslims never invented anything----in fact
they did they invented SHAKE DOWN---popularized in the USA by the GODFATHER---but he did not invent it----muhummad did-----CORLEONE was a good muslim he emulated DA PROFFIT

A reason for Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians etc not being forced to convert to Islam wasn’t tolerance—The jizya revenue from non-Muslims was necessary for Islamic expansion.

Muslims won’t tell you this.

 

[JoelT1]

Islam is kind of like paying extortion money to the Mafia not to be murdered

Still a better deal than having all your possessions taken and then getting exiled or beheaded.

Not a good deal if you didn’t pay the jizya which could result in execution

 

[JoelT1]

Allah in the Koran wants Jews and Christians destroyed. Allah is not God of Jews and Christians

The Koran considers Jews and Christians to be people of the book and has a reverence for them. They are granted a special place in the Muslim world. Like the Bible, the Koran has many passages that can be contradictory when taken out of context.

God in the New Testament condemns Jews as enemies of God. He is not the God of the Jews.

The Gospel of John has long provided anti-Semites with grist for their mill.[28] There are 31 instances where the gospel uses the word Ἰουδαῖοι, the Jews in a hostile sense,[29] among the 63 uses [30] of the word in this gospel,[31] and all Jewish groups are lumped together, with no distinctions made between them. The Sadducees, prominent elsewhere, disappear.[32] The enemies of Jesus are described collectively as "the Jews", in contradistinction to the other evangelists, who do not generally [33] ascribe to "the Jews" en masse calls for the death of Jesus. In the other 3 texts, the plot to put him to death is always presented as coming from a small group of priests and rulers, the Sadducees.[31][34] John's gospel is thus the primary source of the image of "the Jews" acting collectively as the enemy of Jesus, which later became fixed in Christian minds.[35]

The NT condemns all non-Christians equally.

Um, Jesus was an Orthodox Jew

He became an apostate because he couldn't control his OCD as was required of a student of a member of the Sanhedrin.
Plus there are more than enough Orthodox Jews who are assholes because their character attributes don't match their mechanical habits.

What in the world are you even talking about? Jesus died a Jew. Last Supper was a Passover Seder. Try reading the Bible!

 

[Cosmos]

Are Allah & God the same?

No. God is good. Allah is a lying thieving child molesting dirty sonofabitch.

 

[irosie91]

Islam is kind of like paying extortion money to the Mafia not to be murdered

Still a better deal than having all your possessions taken and then getting exiled or beheaded.

of course----that is why people accepted the terms -----of course muslims claim it is because the WHOLE WORLD LOVES MUHUMMAD

Relations between Muhammad and Jews and Christians were simple and straightforward: They rejected as ridiculous an Arab prophet arriving in a chariot carrying a sword who had a harem with 10+ wives!

Yet they managed to live very well in Muslim lands for centuries. Usually much better than they did under Christianity.

Pay the Muslims your "I'm not a Muslim" tax and they don't behead you.
Seems rather reasonable to me.

Islam is kind of like paying extortion money to the Mafia not to be murdered

no question-----JIZYA is SHAKE DOWN money----I have often stated that muslims never invented anything----in fact
they did they invented SHAKE DOWN---popularized in the USA by the GODFATHER---but he did not invent it----muhummad did-----CORLEONE was a good muslim he emulated DA PROFFIT

A reason for Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians etc not being forced to convert to Islam wasn’t tolerance—The jizya revenue from non-Muslims was necessary for Islamic expansion.

Muslims won’t tell you this.

true---and MOST PEOPLE do not know---Muslims
NEED kaffirin for many reasons---and actually did
discourage "reversion" as a kind of governmental
urban planning. Kaffirin is a CASTE in muslim society---
not only do they pay tribute----but they also do the "dirty
work" and some functions that somehow muslims just
cannot do---like MAKE WINE. -----or--for some reason do
metal work or make leather shoes. Muzzies need kaffirin like
Scarlett O'Hara and her dad needed "darkies" Today ----
something like 20 % of the population of Saudi Arabia is ---
KAFFIR------imported hindu slave labor ----and Christian slave labor-----and a few temps like doctors from Israel.
Now they probably import the BOOZE

 

[Indeependent]

Allah in the Koran wants Jews and Christians destroyed. Allah is not God of Jews and Christians

The Koran considers Jews and Christians to be people of the book and has a reverence for them. They are granted a special place in the Muslim world. Like the Bible, the Koran has many passages that can be contradictory when taken out of context.

God in the New Testament condemns Jews as enemies of God. He is not the God of the Jews.

The Gospel of John has long provided anti-Semites with grist for their mill.[28] There are 31 instances where the gospel uses the word Ἰουδαῖοι, the Jews in a hostile sense,[29] among the 63 uses [30] of the word in this gospel,[31] and all Jewish groups are lumped together, with no distinctions made between them. The Sadducees, prominent elsewhere, disappear.[32] The enemies of Jesus are described collectively as "the Jews", in contradistinction to the other evangelists, who do not generally [33] ascribe to "the Jews" en masse calls for the death of Jesus. In the other 3 texts, the plot to put him to death is always presented as coming from a small group of priests and rulers, the Sadducees.[31][34] John's gospel is thus the primary source of the image of "the Jews" acting collectively as the enemy of Jesus, which later became fixed in Christian minds.[35]

The NT condemns all non-Christians equally.

Um, Jesus was an Orthodox Jew

He became an apostate because he couldn't control his OCD as was required of a student of a member of the Sanhedrin.
Plus there are more than enough Orthodox Jews who are assholes because their character attributes don't match their mechanical habits.

What in the world are you even talking about? Jesus died a Jew. Last Supper was a Passover Seder. Try reading the Bible!

I presume this fiction was taught to you by your pastor?

 

[irosie91]

Allah in the Koran wants Jews and Christians destroyed. Allah is not God of Jews and Christians

The Koran considers Jews and Christians to be people of the book and has a reverence for them. They are granted a special place in the Muslim world. Like the Bible, the Koran has many passages that can be contradictory when taken out of context.

God in the New Testament condemns Jews as enemies of God. He is not the God of the Jews.

The Gospel of John has long provided anti-Semites with grist for their mill.[28] There are 31 instances where the gospel uses the word Ἰουδαῖοι, the Jews in a hostile sense,[29] among the 63 uses [30] of the word in this gospel,[31] and all Jewish groups are lumped together, with no distinctions made between them. The Sadducees, prominent elsewhere, disappear.[32] The enemies of Jesus are described collectively as "the Jews", in contradistinction to the other evangelists, who do not generally [33] ascribe to "the Jews" en masse calls for the death of Jesus. In the other 3 texts, the plot to put him to death is always presented as coming from a small group of priests and rulers, the Sadducees.[31][34] John's gospel is thus the primary source of the image of "the Jews" acting collectively as the enemy of Jesus, which later became fixed in Christian minds.[35]

The NT condemns all non-Christians equally.

Um, Jesus was an Orthodox Jew

He became an apostate because he couldn't control his OCD as was required of a student of a member of the Sanhedrin.
Plus there are more than enough Orthodox Jews who are assholes because their character attributes don't match their mechanical habits.

What in the world are you even talking about? Jesus died a Jew. Last Supper was a Passover Seder. Try reading the Bible!

INDE is joking--------CUT IT OUT independs

 

[JoelT1]

The Koran considers Jews and Christians to be people of the book and has a reverence for them. They are granted a special place in the Muslim world. Like the Bible, the Koran has many passages that can be contradictory when taken out of context.

God in the New Testament condemns Jews as enemies of God. He is not the God of the Jews.

The Gospel of John has long provided anti-Semites with grist for their mill.[28] There are 31 instances where the gospel uses the word Ἰουδαῖοι, the Jews in a hostile sense,[29] among the 63 uses [30] of the word in this gospel,[31] and all Jewish groups are lumped together, with no distinctions made between them. The Sadducees, prominent elsewhere, disappear.[32] The enemies of Jesus are described collectively as "the Jews", in contradistinction to the other evangelists, who do not generally [33] ascribe to "the Jews" en masse calls for the death of Jesus. In the other 3 texts, the plot to put him to death is always presented as coming from a small group of priests and rulers, the Sadducees.[31][34] John's gospel is thus the primary source of the image of "the Jews" acting collectively as the enemy of Jesus, which later became fixed in Christian minds.[35]

The NT condemns all non-Christians equally.

Um, Jesus was an Orthodox Jew

He became an apostate because he couldn't control his OCD as was required of a student of a member of the Sanhedrin.
Plus there are more than enough Orthodox Jews who are assholes because their character attributes don't match their mechanical habits.

What in the world are you even talking about? Jesus died a Jew. Last Supper was a Passover Seder. Try reading the Bible!

I presume this fiction was taught to you by your pastor?

Familiarize yourself with the Bible. It records Jesus and his disciples preparing the Passover Seder that became the Last Supper.

 

[irosie91]

The Koran considers Jews and Christians to be people of the book and has a reverence for them. They are granted a special place in the Muslim world. Like the Bible, the Koran has many passages that can be contradictory when taken out of context.

God in the New Testament condemns Jews as enemies of God. He is not the God of the Jews.

The Gospel of John has long provided anti-Semites with grist for their mill.[28] There are 31 instances where the gospel uses the word Ἰουδαῖοι, the Jews in a hostile sense,[29] among the 63 uses [30] of the word in this gospel,[31] and all Jewish groups are lumped together, with no distinctions made between them. The Sadducees, prominent elsewhere, disappear.[32] The enemies of Jesus are described collectively as "the Jews", in contradistinction to the other evangelists, who do not generally [33] ascribe to "the Jews" en masse calls for the death of Jesus. In the other 3 texts, the plot to put him to death is always presented as coming from a small group of priests and rulers, the Sadducees.[31][34] John's gospel is thus the primary source of the image of "the Jews" acting collectively as the enemy of Jesus, which later became fixed in Christian minds.[35]

The NT condemns all non-Christians equally.

Um, Jesus was an Orthodox Jew

He became an apostate because he couldn't control his OCD as was required of a student of a member of the Sanhedrin.
Plus there are more than enough Orthodox Jews who are assholes because their character attributes don't match their mechanical habits.

What in the world are you even talking about? Jesus died a Jew. Last Supper was a Passover Seder. Try reading the Bible!

I presume this fiction was taught to you by your pastor?

his catechism cooking teacher ------inculcated him with
fantasy-------happy now ---éclair?

Islam is kind of like paying extortion money to the Mafia not to be murdered

Still a better deal than having all your possessions taken and then getting exiled or beheaded.

Not a good deal if you didn’t pay the jizya which could result in execution

I have a real informant-----it was a kind of community effort----
the whole community scraped the money together so no
one would get killed-----non payment resulted in pogroms

 

[alang1216]

Not a good deal if you didn’t pay the jizya which could result in execution

Pay your taxes and you don't get punished. Islam, IRS, same difference.

 

[there4eyeM]

"Allah" is a name for a central monotheistic figure. God is a generic term in English. The Biblical term (a verb, not a noun), for that central figure is Yahweh (spelling and pronunciation may vary). The two terms are not synonymous in English. To accept that "Allah" means 'God' is to accept Arabic as one's language in the case. "Allah" means Allah in English, not 'God'.

 

[JoelT1]

"Allah" is a name for a central monotheistic figure. God is a generic term in English. The Biblical term (a verb, not a noun), for that central figure is Yahweh (spelling and pronunciation may vary). The two terms are not synonymous in English. To accept that "Allah" means 'God' is to accept Arabic as one's language in the case. "Allah" means Allah in English, not 'God'.

Muslims desperate for legitimacy and validation latch onto Jews’ and Christians’ God and insist they worship the same deity Absolutely not!