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[FactFinder]

My, my, Factfudger, seems that you are incapable of reading;

Glaciers on California's Mt. Shasta keep growing - USATODAY.com

By Samantha Young, Associated Press Writer
MOUNT SHASTA, Calif. — Reaching more than 14,000 feet above sea level, Mt. Shasta dominates the landscape of high plains and conifer forests in far Northern California.
While it's not California's tallest mountain, the tongues of ice creeping down Shasta's volcanic flanks give the solitary mountain another distinction. Its seven glaciers, referred to by American Indians as the footsteps made by the creator when he descended to Earth, are the only historical glaciers in the continental U.S. known to be growing.
With global warming causing the retreat of glaciers in the Sierra Nevada, the Rocky Mountains and elsewhere in the Cascades, Mt. Shasta is actually benefiting from changing weather patterns over the Pacific Ocean.

Geez how many glaciers have gotten their AGW Exclusion Permit? Isn't one expanding glacier enough to question the global warming hoax?

Well it isn't just one despite the author of the article's either blatant ignorance or bias.


California glaciers growing

The seven tongues of ice creeping down Mount Shasta's flanks “are the only known glaciers
in the continental U.S. that are growing,” the article says.

How convenient. Let’s ignore Crater Glacier on Mount
St. Helens, which is not only growing, but is now larger
than it was prior to the 1980 eruption that entirely
obliterated it.

How convenient. Let’s ignore the fact that the Nisqually
Glacier on Mount Rainier is growing. Let’s ignore the
most continuously monitored glacier in the northern
hemisphere.

How convenient. Let’s ignore the fact that the glaciers
are growing on Washington’s Mount Shuksan.
(See Growing Glaciers)

How convenient. Let’s limit our discussion to the
continental U.S. That way we can ignore the glaciers
in Alaska that are advancing a third of a mile per year.

 

[Old Rocks]

My, my, Factfudger, seems that you are incapable of reading;

Glaciers on California's Mt. Shasta keep growing - USATODAY.com

By Samantha Young, Associated Press Writer
MOUNT SHASTA, Calif. — Reaching more than 14,000 feet above sea level, Mt. Shasta dominates the landscape of high plains and conifer forests in far Northern California.
While it's not California's tallest mountain, the tongues of ice creeping down Shasta's volcanic flanks give the solitary mountain another distinction. Its seven glaciers, referred to by American Indians as the footsteps made by the creator when he descended to Earth, are the only historical glaciers in the continental U.S. known to be growing.
With global warming causing the retreat of glaciers in the Sierra Nevada, the Rocky Mountains and elsewhere in the Cascades, Mt. Shasta is actually benefiting from changing weather patterns over the Pacific Ocean.

Geez how many glaciers have gotten their AGW Exclusion Permit? Isn't one expanding glacier enough to question the global warming hoax?

Well it isn't just one despite the author of the article's either blatant ignorance or bias.


California glaciers growing

The seven tongues of ice creeping down Mount Shasta's flanks “are the only known glaciers
in the continental U.S. that are growing,” the article says.

How convenient. Let’s ignore Crater Glacier on Mount
St. Helens, which is not only growing, but is now larger
than it was prior to the 1980 eruption that entirely
obliterated it.
There was no crater prior to the 1980 eruption. That glacier did not exist prior to the eruption.

How convenient. Let’s ignore the fact that the Nisqually
Glacier on Mount Rainier is growing. Let’s ignore the
most continuously monitored glacier in the northern
hemisphere.
Must you lie? Or are you just too lazy to check your sources? Here is an article from the University of Washington on the states glacies. And the Nisqually glacier retreated over a mile from 1912 to 2001.
http://jisao.washington.edu/print/news/SeattleTimes_11-2-06_%20State'sShrinkingGlaciers_%20GoingGoingGone.pdf

How convenient. Let’s ignore the fact that the glaciers
are growing on Washington’s Mount Shuksan.
(See Growing Glaciers)

How convenient. Let’s limit our discussion to the
continental U.S. That way we can ignore the glaciers

in Alaska that are advancing a third of a mile per year.

The mean annual balance for the 1984-2008 period has been -0. 5 m/a. The mean cumulative mass balance loss has been -11.5 m w.e, which is a minimum of 13 m of glacier thickness lost. North Cascade glacier average thickness ranges from 30-60 m. Thus, 20-40 % of the volume of these glaciers has been lost since 1984. Observations by the USGS at South Cascade Glacier indicate that since the mid-1950s, South Cascade Glacier’s cumulative mass balance was -25m, mean annual balance from 1956-1975 averaged -0.15 m/a , and from 1976-2003 averaged -1.00 m. The cumulative mass balance is trending more negatively, indicating that instead of approaching equilibrium as the glaciers retreat they are experiencing increasing disequilibrium with current climate

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[Old Rocks]

Because of increased precipitation on the coast, some coastal glaciers are advancing, but not all of them. However, all of the interior glaciers are in retreat.

 

[del]

Because of increased precipitation on the coast, some coastal glaciers are advancing, but not all of them. However, all of the interior glaciers are in retreat.

we're running out of water!??

does al know?

 

[Old Rocks]

Because of increased precipitation on the coast, some coastal glaciers are advancing, but not all of them. However, all of the interior glaciers are in retreat.

we're running out of water!??

does al know?

Stupid. Really stupid.

 

[FactFinder]

Because of increased precipitation on the coast, some coastal glaciers are advancing, but not all of them. However, all of the interior glaciers are in retreat.

Ok, water makes glaciers bigger... Is that warm water?

So you are saying that the glaciers that are melting are doing so because of a lack of water? So you admit that the global warming hoax doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.

 

[del]

Because of increased precipitation on the coast, some coastal glaciers are advancing, but not all of them. However, all of the interior glaciers are in retreat.

we're running out of water!??

does al know?

Stupid. Really stupid.

yeah, certainly referring to an excess of precipitation as the sole reason why glaciers are growing and failing to make the connection as to what causes the formation of glaciers is stupid. especially since by and large coastal weather is warmer in the winter.

you might want to stick to your lathe. have a pleasant evening.

 

[elvis]

we're running out of water!??

does al know?

Stupid. Really stupid.

yeah, certainly referring to an excess of precipitation as the sole reason why glaciers are growing and failing to make the connection as to what causes the formation of glaciers is stupid. especially since by and large coastal weather is warmer in the winter.

you might want to stick to your lathe. have a pleasant evening.

but but but Al Gore told him so.

 

[Old Rocks]

Warmer May Mean Bigger for Coastal Glaciers
Article #890

by Carla Helfferich



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This article is provided as a public service by the Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks, in cooperation with the UAF research community. Carla Helfferich is a science writer at the Institute.



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Headlines, commentaries, and even this column have been crowded recently with words of worry about the greenhouse effect, the apparently inevitable warming of Earth's atmosphere because human activity continues to change the balance of the gases in the air we breathe.

When it comes to what this really means for Alaska, it's possible to find almost as many opinions as there are knowledgeable scientists. One of the oddest probabilities is that a warmer climate could set our coastal glaciers growing. And yes, there is some evidence that this has started to happen.

To explain this apparently unreasonable behavior, it's necessary to examine why the glaciers grow where they do along Alaska's southeastern and southcentral coasts. First, consider the scenery: a complex seacoast backed by steep mountains. Next, remember that glacier ice starts as compacted snow--snow that falls high in the mountains, so thickly that summer's heat can't melt it away. The next winter's snowfall descends upon the remains of the previous winter's snowpack, compressing it eventually into ice. Over years, decades, centuries, the ice builds. Pulled by gravity, finally a glacier flows downhill. Its tongue may reach the sea, but its tail remains in the mountains, fed by the highland snows.

Now, return to the cause of the soggy weather along those coasts. Wet air comes off the North Pacific Ocean. The air mass is comparatively warm, and warm air can hold more moisture than cold air. The oceanic air holds so much moisture that just a little cooling is all it needs to start dumping water. The air's lifting as it encounters the coastline can produce enough cooling to do that. Thus Juneau, Yakutat, and Valdez are deservedly known as rainy places.

The water that doesn't rain out accompanies the air uphill into the colder zones high on the mountain slopes. The air chills more, and must release more water. If it's cold enough, the precipitation will fall as snow.
Warmer May Mean Bigger for Coastal Glaciers, Alaska Science Forum

 

[Sinatra]

Warmer May Mean Bigger for Coastal Glaciers
Article #890

by Carla Helfferich



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This article is provided as a public service by the Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks, in cooperation with the UAF research community. Carla Helfferich is a science writer at the Institute.



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Headlines, commentaries, and even this column have been crowded recently with words of worry about the greenhouse effect, the apparently inevitable warming of Earth's atmosphere because human activity continues to change the balance of the gases in the air we breathe.

When it comes to what this really means for Alaska, it's possible to find almost as many opinions as there are knowledgeable scientists. One of the oddest probabilities is that a warmer climate could set our coastal glaciers growing. And yes, there is some evidence that this has started to happen.

To explain this apparently unreasonable behavior, it's necessary to examine why the glaciers grow where they do along Alaska's southeastern and southcentral coasts. First, consider the scenery: a complex seacoast backed by steep mountains. Next, remember that glacier ice starts as compacted snow--snow that falls high in the mountains, so thickly that summer's heat can't melt it away. The next winter's snowfall descends upon the remains of the previous winter's snowpack, compressing it eventually into ice. Over years, decades, centuries, the ice builds. Pulled by gravity, finally a glacier flows downhill. Its tongue may reach the sea, but its tail remains in the mountains, fed by the highland snows.

Now, return to the cause of the soggy weather along those coasts. Wet air comes off the North Pacific Ocean. The air mass is comparatively warm, and warm air can hold more moisture than cold air. The oceanic air holds so much moisture that just a little cooling is all it needs to start dumping water. The air's lifting as it encounters the coastline can produce enough cooling to do that. Thus Juneau, Yakutat, and Valdez are deservedly known as rainy places.

The water that doesn't rain out accompanies the air uphill into the colder zones high on the mountain slopes. The air chills more, and must release more water. If it's cold enough, the precipitation will fall as snow.
Warmer May Mean Bigger for Coastal Glaciers, Alaska Science Forum

Ah yes, the stories now coming out to attempt to explain away the increasing cold that has dominated the climate for nearly a decade.

It is interesting how the GW supporters demand peer reviewed studies to support these articles based on wide ranging assumptions, but when similar articles of assumptions are given that oppose the GW theory, they mark them as "unscientific".

Hypocrisy cuts both ways folks...

 

[raceright]

Warmer May Mean Bigger for Coastal Glaciers
Article #890

by Carla Helfferich



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


This article is provided as a public service by the Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks, in cooperation with the UAF research community. Carla Helfferich is a science writer at the Institute.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Headlines, commentaries, and even this column have been crowded recently with words of worry about the greenhouse effect, the apparently inevitable warming of Earth's atmosphere because human activity continues to change the balance of the gases in the air we breathe.

When it comes to what this really means for Alaska, it's possible to find almost as many opinions as there are knowledgeable scientists. One of the oddest probabilities is that a warmer climate could set our coastal glaciers growing. And yes, there is some evidence that this has started to happen.

To explain this apparently unreasonable behavior, it's necessary to examine why the glaciers grow where they do along Alaska's southeastern and southcentral coasts. First, consider the scenery: a complex seacoast backed by steep mountains. Next, remember that glacier ice starts as compacted snow--snow that falls high in the mountains, so thickly that summer's heat can't melt it away. The next winter's snowfall descends upon the remains of the previous winter's snowpack, compressing it eventually into ice. Over years, decades, centuries, the ice builds. Pulled by gravity, finally a glacier flows downhill. Its tongue may reach the sea, but its tail remains in the mountains, fed by the highland snows.

Now, return to the cause of the soggy weather along those coasts. Wet air comes off the North Pacific Ocean. The air mass is comparatively warm, and warm air can hold more moisture than cold air. The oceanic air holds so much moisture that just a little cooling is all it needs to start dumping water. The air's lifting as it encounters the coastline can produce enough cooling to do that. Thus Juneau, Yakutat, and Valdez are deservedly known as rainy places.

The water that doesn't rain out accompanies the air uphill into the colder zones high on the mountain slopes. The air chills more, and must release more water. If it's cold enough, the precipitation will fall as snow.
Warmer May Mean Bigger for Coastal Glaciers, Alaska Science Forum

Ah yes, the stories now coming out to attempt to explain away the increasing cold that has dominated the climate for nearly a decade.

It is interesting how the GW supporters demand peer reviewed studies to support these articles based on wide ranging assumptions, but when similar articles of assumptions are given that oppose the GW theory, they mark them as "unscientific".

Hypocrisy cuts both ways folks...

AHHH JUst figured it out with glaciers melting that means more water front property for wealthy estates no wonder the lefties hate this they can't afford it (maybe Barnny will help them) so the secret is out the rich have caused this to get more realestate wow what evil people

Assholes hey I got a bridge for sale in Brooklyn maybe rocks in the head would like to bid

 

[del]

Warmer May Mean Bigger for Coastal Glaciers
Article #890

by Carla Helfferich



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


This article is provided as a public service by the Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks, in cooperation with the UAF research community. Carla Helfferich is a science writer at the Institute.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Headlines, commentaries, and even this column have been crowded recently with words of worry about the greenhouse effect, the apparently inevitable warming of Earth's atmosphere because human activity continues to change the balance of the gases in the air we breathe.

When it comes to what this really means for Alaska, it's possible to find almost as many opinions as there are knowledgeable scientists. One of the oddest probabilities is that a warmer climate could set our coastal glaciers growing. And yes, there is some evidence that this has started to happen.

To explain this apparently unreasonable behavior, it's necessary to examine why the glaciers grow where they do along Alaska's southeastern and southcentral coasts. First, consider the scenery: a complex seacoast backed by steep mountains. Next, remember that glacier ice starts as compacted snow--snow that falls high in the mountains, so thickly that summer's heat can't melt it away. The next winter's snowfall descends upon the remains of the previous winter's snowpack, compressing it eventually into ice. Over years, decades, centuries, the ice builds. Pulled by gravity, finally a glacier flows downhill. Its tongue may reach the sea, but its tail remains in the mountains, fed by the highland snows.

Now, return to the cause of the soggy weather along those coasts. Wet air comes off the North Pacific Ocean. The air mass is comparatively warm, and warm air can hold more moisture than cold air. The oceanic air holds so much moisture that just a little cooling is all it needs to start dumping water. The air's lifting as it encounters the coastline can produce enough cooling to do that. Thus Juneau, Yakutat, and Valdez are deservedly known as rainy places.

The water that doesn't rain out accompanies the air uphill into the colder zones high on the mountain slopes. The air chills more, and must release more water. If it's cold enough, the precipitation will fall as snow.
Warmer May Mean Bigger for Coastal Glaciers, Alaska Science Forum

may 1 (m&#257 Pronunciation Key
aux.v. Past tense might (mīt)

To be allowed or permitted to: May I take a swim? Yes, you may.
Used to indicate a certain measure of likelihood or possibility: It may rain this afternoon.
Used to express a desire or fervent wish: Long may he live!
Used to express contingency, purpose, or result in clauses introduced by that or so that: expressing ideas so that the average person may understand.
To be obliged; must. Used in statutes, deeds, and other legal documents.

see if you can connect the dots, boi wonder.

 

[Old Rocks]

Warmer May Mean Bigger for Coastal Glaciers
Article #890

by Carla Helfferich



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


This article is provided as a public service by the Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks, in cooperation with the UAF research community. Carla Helfferich is a science writer at the Institute.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Headlines, commentaries, and even this column have been crowded recently with words of worry about the greenhouse effect, the apparently inevitable warming of Earth's atmosphere because human activity continues to change the balance of the gases in the air we breathe.

When it comes to what this really means for Alaska, it's possible to find almost as many opinions as there are knowledgeable scientists. One of the oddest probabilities is that a warmer climate could set our coastal glaciers growing. And yes, there is some evidence that this has started to happen.

To explain this apparently unreasonable behavior, it's necessary to examine why the glaciers grow where they do along Alaska's southeastern and southcentral coasts. First, consider the scenery: a complex seacoast backed by steep mountains. Next, remember that glacier ice starts as compacted snow--snow that falls high in the mountains, so thickly that summer's heat can't melt it away. The next winter's snowfall descends upon the remains of the previous winter's snowpack, compressing it eventually into ice. Over years, decades, centuries, the ice builds. Pulled by gravity, finally a glacier flows downhill. Its tongue may reach the sea, but its tail remains in the mountains, fed by the highland snows.

Now, return to the cause of the soggy weather along those coasts. Wet air comes off the North Pacific Ocean. The air mass is comparatively warm, and warm air can hold more moisture than cold air. The oceanic air holds so much moisture that just a little cooling is all it needs to start dumping water. The air's lifting as it encounters the coastline can produce enough cooling to do that. Thus Juneau, Yakutat, and Valdez are deservedly known as rainy places.

The water that doesn't rain out accompanies the air uphill into the colder zones high on the mountain slopes. The air chills more, and must release more water. If it's cold enough, the precipitation will fall as snow.
Warmer May Mean Bigger for Coastal Glaciers, Alaska Science Forum

may 1 (m&#257 Pronunciation Key
aux.v. Past tense might (mīt)

To be allowed or permitted to: May I take a swim? Yes, you may.
Used to indicate a certain measure of likelihood or possibility: It may rain this afternoon.
Used to express a desire or fervent wish: Long may he live!
Used to express contingency, purpose, or result in clauses introduced by that or so that: expressing ideas so that the average person may understand.
To be obliged; must. Used in statutes, deeds, and other legal documents.

see if you can connect the dots, boi wonder.

My, my, looks like Del has caught whatever ol' Pubes has. Big red letters and all.

 

[del]

Warmer May Mean Bigger for Coastal Glaciers
Article #890

by Carla Helfferich



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


This article is provided as a public service by the Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks, in cooperation with the UAF research community. Carla Helfferich is a science writer at the Institute.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Headlines, commentaries, and even this column have been crowded recently with words of worry about the greenhouse effect, the apparently inevitable warming of Earth's atmosphere because human activity continues to change the balance of the gases in the air we breathe.

When it comes to what this really means for Alaska, it's possible to find almost as many opinions as there are knowledgeable scientists. One of the oddest probabilities is that a warmer climate could set our coastal glaciers growing. And yes, there is some evidence that this has started to happen.

To explain this apparently unreasonable behavior, it's necessary to examine why the glaciers grow where they do along Alaska's southeastern and southcentral coasts. First, consider the scenery: a complex seacoast backed by steep mountains. Next, remember that glacier ice starts as compacted snow--snow that falls high in the mountains, so thickly that summer's heat can't melt it away. The next winter's snowfall descends upon the remains of the previous winter's snowpack, compressing it eventually into ice. Over years, decades, centuries, the ice builds. Pulled by gravity, finally a glacier flows downhill. Its tongue may reach the sea, but its tail remains in the mountains, fed by the highland snows.

Now, return to the cause of the soggy weather along those coasts. Wet air comes off the North Pacific Ocean. The air mass is comparatively warm, and warm air can hold more moisture than cold air. The oceanic air holds so much moisture that just a little cooling is all it needs to start dumping water. The air's lifting as it encounters the coastline can produce enough cooling to do that. Thus Juneau, Yakutat, and Valdez are deservedly known as rainy places.

The water that doesn't rain out accompanies the air uphill into the colder zones high on the mountain slopes. The air chills more, and must release more water. If it's cold enough, the precipitation will fall as snow.
Warmer May Mean Bigger for Coastal Glaciers, Alaska Science Forum

may 1 (m&#257 Pronunciation Key
aux.v. Past tense might (mīt)

To be allowed or permitted to: May I take a swim? Yes, you may.
Used to indicate a certain measure of likelihood or possibility: It may rain this afternoon.
Used to express a desire or fervent wish: Long may he live!
Used to express contingency, purpose, or result in clauses introduced by that or so that: expressing ideas so that the average person may understand.
To be obliged; must. Used in statutes, deeds, and other legal documents.

see if you can connect the dots, boi wonder.

My, my, looks like Del has caught whatever ol' Pubes has. Big red letters and all.

i'll take that as a "no, i can't".

 

[Chris]

may 1 (m&#257 Pronunciation Key
aux.v. Past tense might (mīt)

To be allowed or permitted to: May I take a swim? Yes, you may.
Used to indicate a certain measure of likelihood or possibility: It may rain this afternoon.
Used to express a desire or fervent wish: Long may he live!
Used to express contingency, purpose, or result in clauses introduced by that or so that: expressing ideas so that the average person may understand.
To be obliged; must. Used in statutes, deeds, and other legal documents.

see if you can connect the dots, boi wonder.

My, my, looks like Del has caught whatever ol' Pubes has. Big red letters and all.

i'll take that as a "no, i can't".

You can deny all you want but the ice caps and glaciers are melting.

I really feel sorry for you.

 

[FactFinder]

My, my, looks like Del has caught whatever ol' Pubes has. Big red letters and all.

i'll take that as a "no, i can't".

You can deny all you want but the ice caps and glaciers are melting.

I really feel sorry for you.

Except for the ones that are expanding. Now why is that?

 

[KittenKoder]

i'll take that as a "no, i can't".

You can deny all you want but the ice caps and glaciers are melting.

I really feel sorry for you.

Except for the ones that are expanding. Now why is that?

Don't forget the vast increase in ice on major continents as well ...

 

[Old Rocks]

You can deny all you want but the ice caps and glaciers are melting.

I really feel sorry for you.

Except for the ones that are expanding. Now why is that?

Don't forget the vast increase in ice on major continents as well ...

OK, Kitten, some proof of that statement.

 

[Old Rocks]

Del;

i'll take that as a "no, i can't".
..............................................

Take it any way you like. Sinatra has posted the links to some rather good sites that disagree with AGW theory. I could pick on exactly the same words in those articles as you have in this one. However, that is how scientists talk. They do not have the certainty of holy roller preachers. The fact that you use such tactics demonstrates that you are not a serious person.

 

[k2skier]

raceright you are ignorant beyond words, ranting and swearing doesn't prove your point; if you follow the money it leads to big oil. The ice everywhere on this planet is melting except Antarctica, and a couple of rare anomolies.

Educate yourselves.

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