Anyone Else Sick of Obama being two faced? Watch this video

[PoliticalChic]

Its as if Barry believes there is no such thing as video tape.

The more I see our President (peace be on him) the more I think that he is the opposite of the "I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on television.:

In his case, he IS the President, but loves to act like he just plays one on television.

 

[Xenophon]

Its as if Barry believes there is no such thing as video tape.

The more I see our President (peace be on him) the more I think that he is the opposite of the "I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on television.:

In his case, he IS the President, but loves to act like he just plays one on television.

Its due to a lack of accountability.

We are only now seeing a trickle of criticism of Barry from the media (outside of FOX) and he doesn't like it, thus the pogroms against any who question St Barry.

 

[MaggieMae]

YouTube - Obama: 1 Speech, 2 Faces

I'd have to see more of the video. My first reaction was that he was talking about Wall Street and the greedy bastards who almost succeeded in bringing down the economy, not just our own, but the entire world's. If he's talking about people who supported those clowns, he's right-on.

If you really wanted to make your "two-faced" case, there are better examples--like allowing lobbyists to continue to run all over the policymakers, backing down on health care reform (ironically kowing to Republican noise), and any number of other campaign promises not yet fulfilled or flip on.

 

[MaggieMae]

Feel free to post a video showing a Republican president contradicting himself in one speech.

I don't have the video, but would a transcript work? Please tell us how Bush intended to spend trillions, yet "set aside" trillions in his 2002 budget, and cut taxes. Bear in mind, this was policy, not campaign rhetoric.

Bush Speech to Congress: 27 Feb 2001

George W. Bush Addresses Congress on the Budget

Following are excerpts from President Bush's speech to Congress,
27 February 2001


'I'm Here to Ask for a Refund'


We increase spending next year for Social Security and Medicare and other entitlement programs by $81 billion. We have increased spending for discretionary programs by a very responsible 4 percent above the rate of inflation. My plan pays down an unprecedented amount of our national debt. And then when money is still left over, my plan returns it to the people who earned it in the first place.


A budget's impact is counted in dollars but measured in lives. Excellent schools, quality health care, a secure retirement, a cleaner environment, a stronger defense -- these are all important needs, and we fund them.


The highest percentage increase in our budget should go to our children's education. Education is my top priority.

And by supporting this budget, you will make it yours as well. Reading is the foundation of all learning, so during the next 5 years, we triple spending, adding $5 billion to help every child in America learn to read. Values are important, so we triple funding for character education to teach our children not only reading and writing, but right from wrong.

We've increased funding to train and recruit teachers, because we know a good education starts with a good teacher. And I have a wonderful partner in this effort.

I like teachers so much, I married one. Laura has begun a new effort to recruit Americans to the profession that will shape our future: teaching. She will travel across America to promote sound teaching practices and early reading skills in our schools and in programs such as Head Start.

Another priority in my budget is to keep the vital promises of Medicare and Social Security, and together we will do so. To meet the health care needs of all America's seniors, we double the Medicare budget over the next 10 years.

My budget dedicates $238 billion to Medicare next year alone, enough to fund all current programs and to begin a new prescription drug benefit for low-income seniors.

No senior in America should have to choose between buying food and buying prescriptions. To make sure the retirement savings of America's seniors are not diverted to any other program, my budget protects all $2.6 trillion of the Social Security surplus for Social Security and for Social Security alone.

My budget puts a priority on access to health care without telling Americans what doctor they have to see or what coverage they must choose. Many working Americans do not have health care coverage, so we will help them buy their own insurance with refundable tax credits. And to provide quality care in low-income neighborhoods, over the next five years we will double the number of people served at community health care centers. And we will address the concerns of those who have health coverage yet worry their insurance company does not care and will not pay.

Together, this Congress and this president will find common ground to make sure doctors make medical decisions and patients get the health care they deserve with a patients' bill of rights.

My budget will improve our environment by accelerating the cleanup of toxic brownfields. And I propose we make a major investment in conservation by fully funding the Land and Water Conservation Fund. Our national parks have a special place in our country's life. Our parks are places of great natural beauty and history. As good stewards, we must leave them better than we found them, so I propose providing $4.9 billion over five years for the upkeep of these national treasures.

And my budget adopts a hopeful new approach to help the poor and the disadvantaged. We must encourage and support the work of charities and faith-based and community groups that offer help and love one person at a time.

These groups are working in every neighborhood in America to fight homelessness and addiction and domestic violence, to provide a hot meal or a mentor or a safe haven for our children. Government should welcome these groups to apply for funds, not discriminate against them.

Government cannot be replaced by charities or volunteers. Government should not fund religious activities.

But our nation should support the good works of these good people who are helping their neighbors in need.

So I propose allowing all taxpayers, whether they itemize or not, to deduct their charitable contributions. Estimates show this could encourage as much as $14 billion a year in new charitable giving, money that will save and change lives.

Our budget provides more than $700 million over the next 10 years for a Federal Compassion Capital Fund with a focused and noble mission: to provide a mentor to the more than 1 million children with a parent in prison and to support other local efforts to fight illiteracy, teen pregnancy, drug addiction and other difficult problems.

As government promotes compassion, it also must promote justice. Too many of our citizens have cause to doubt our nation's justice when the law points a finger of suspicion at groups instead of individuals. All our citizens are created equal and must be treated equally. Earlier today, I asked John Ashcroft, the attorney general, to develop specific recommendations to end racial profiling. It is wrong, and we will end it in America.

Many of you have talked about the need to pay down our national debt. I listened, and I agree. We owe it to our children and grandchildren to act now, and I hope you will join me to pay down $2 trillion in debt during the next 10 years. At the end of those 10 years, we will have paid down all of the debt that is available to retire. That is more debt repaid more quickly than has ever been repaid by any nation at any time in history.

We should also prepare for the unexpected, for the uncertainties of the future. We should approach our Nation's budget as any prudent family would, with a contingency fund for emergencies or additional spending needs. For example, after a strategic review, we may need to increase defense spending, we may need additional money for our farmers, or additional money to reform Medicare. And so my budget sets aside almost a trillion dollars over 10 years for additional needs. That is one trillion additional reasons you can feel comfortable supporting this budget.

We have increased our budget at a responsible 4 percent. We have funded our priorities. We paid down all the available debt. We have prepared for contingencies. And we still have money left over.

Now we come to a fork in the road. We have two choices. Even though we have already met our needs, we could spend the money on more and bigger government. That's the road our nation has traveled in recent years.

Last year, government spending shot up 8 percent. That's far more than our economy grew, far more than personal income grew and far more than the rate of inflation. If you continue on that road, you will spend the surplus and have to dip into Social Security to pay other bills. Unrestrained government spending is a dangerous road to deficits, so we must take a different path.

I hope you'll join me in standing firmly on the side of the people. You see, the growing surplus exists because taxes are too high, and government is charging more than it needs. The people of America have been overcharged, and, on their behalf, I am here to ask for a refund. And as we debate this issue, always remember: The surplus is not the government's money; the surplus is the people's money.

As we meet tonight, many citizens are struggling with the high cost of energy. We have a serious energy problem that demands a national energy policy. The West is confronting a major energy shortage that has resulted in high prices and uncertainty. I have asked federal agencies to work with California officials to help speed construction of new energy sources. And I have directed Vice President Cheney, Commerce Secretary Evans, Energy Secretary Abraham and other senior members of my administration to develop a national energy policy.

Our energy demand outstrips our supply. We can produce more energy at home while protecting our environment, and we must.

We can produce more electricity to meet demand, and we must.

We can promote alternative energy sources and conservation, and we must.

America must become more energy independent, and we will.

 

[Si modo]

Grasping, seriously grasping.

 

[MaggieMae]

Of course the koolade drinkers and those who had hope beyond hope that he was truly the messiah they wanted to come missed it. But those paying attention knew from the beginning that President is a man of great sounding words but is apparently a man of few convictions. Such men frequently contradict themselves. Here is a tiny sampling in addition to that used for a thread starter:

YouTube - Obama contradictions

Video - YouTube: Obama -vs- Obama on Medicare Cuts - White House

From WSJ:
AUGUST 20, 2009, 5:56 A.M. ET ObamaCare's Contradictions
The President does both sides now on his health insurance plan.

From NRO:
Just Make Stuff Up
President Obama’s war on the truth.

By Victor Davis Hanson

In the first six months of the Obama administration, we have witnessed an assault on the truth of a magnitude not seen since the Nixon Watergate years. The prevarication is ironic given the Obama campaign’s accusations that the Bush years were not transparent and that Hillary Clinton, like her husband, was a chronic fabricator. Remember Obama’s own assertions that he was a “student of history” and that “words mean something. You can’t just make stuff up.”
Obama Speeches Videos - Metacafe

I never pegged you as just another dog with a well-chewed up bone.

What I don't get about these particular criticisms is that any presidential candidate says a LOT of things during a campaign which once reality sets in are near impossible. Why should Obama be any different? If McCain had been elected, would we be still be arguing over the crap he said during the campaign which were not true or just "made up" or, as McCain was famous for, just conveniently left out of his rhetoric? Perhaps, but my point is they all do it. And stunningly, far too many of you appear to have been born yesterday but know it all today.

 

[MaggieMae]

He never tried the bipartisan thing. He said he would be bipartisan, but apparently he thinks that means that the other side has to agree with him, or off with their heads.

Way back when the health care initiative was first on the table, Obama invited the Republican leadership (around a dozen) to the Oval Office to hear their input. They all had their faces on the news thereafter saying how they intended to cooperate with drafting a bill. So what happens? A draft bill isn't even written yet, and within days they changed their minds, this time grandstanding one by one in front of the cable news microphones saying that "Yes, they'll cooperate, but not for anything that resembles a 'government-sponsored' bill. It was then, around March of last year, I believe, when the current Congressional Republicans first became first labeled as the Party of Just Say No. In other words, olive branches have been extended (more than once), and they continue to show their hostility.

Tell me why should he put up with that?

 

[MaggieMae]

I'm fully aware that this thread is all about 'bashing' Obama. Most of them generally are.
Sorry I treaded on yet another bashfest.

You get used to it, Cindy. Speak your mind. Be prepared to back up your comments with links, though, or they'll chew you up and spit you out (with no back up of their own, of course). And when that doesn't work, they'll start calling you names because their final "defense" is to feel smug. As you suggest, ain't nuthin' different on this board, but you will find an occasional intelligent discussion.

 

[MaggieMae]

Obama tried the bipartisan thing. That didn't work because republicans are too hard headed and don't want anything to change for the better good for people in America.
If everything doesn't center around WAR, Guns and money they don't want any part of it. Health Care has been a problem for years. Now that it's coming around to a real change for people who couldn't afford it for so many years, the repubs are spreading the same old fear and loathing they always fall back on. Changing anyting to a republican gets in the way of their agenda to keep Americans dumbed down and living in fear on top of it all. Obama isn't two faced. He simply didn't want the same people who 'caused' the mess we're in now, coming to him with garbage that wouldn't change a thing for anyone.

And exactly how does that attitude invite bi-partisanship?

BTW the republicans want health care reform, I'm sorry the dems in congress, the president, and fringe media such as the NYTimes and MSNBC have lied to you about the repubs not wanting any changes
http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...nce-republican-health-care-plans-exposed.html

Oh puleeze, PP. The only time Republicans get on board with health care reform is when Democrats are at the helm. They love the status quo. Are you kidding?

 

[MaggieMae]

I'm fully aware that this thread is all about 'bashing' Obama. Most of them generally are.
Sorry I treaded on yet another bashfest.

This thread is all about exposing how obama plays political games with important issues such as Health Care and our soldiers in Afghanistan by being two faced on the issues.

Health Care: I want input from all sides but i wont say a peep about my democrat congress shooting down EVERY suggestion by the republican side

Afghanistan: I'll put my general that I want in charge there then I will delay making a decision on his request for more troops to complete the mission. Instead I'll just have a little photo op with the bodies to give the appearance that I care (which I think he does care about the lives lost but not enough to actually make a decision).

I'm not bashing obama as a person, i'm dissatisfied with his behavior as a president.

Round and round on whether or not Republicans had input on health care. It's ignorant. They came up with a few "proposals," none of which included ANY costs attached, but DID include the usual "tax credit" bullshit that they always offer. Over 40 amendments they proposed were included in the Senate Finance Committee's bill.

As far as Afghanistan, I cannot comprehend why smart people would want the president (any president) to make snap decisions on something as important as a potential war that could easily last another 10 years. It's beyond reason. Yesterday, I heard Jack Baer (ex CIA operative/analyst) say that the 40,000 troops requested by McChrystal could not be LOGISTICALLY (meaning by materiel) supported. That was a first, as far as public knowledge, but one that I'm sure has great consideration in determining the strategy for any more troops on the groun. Jesus, you'd think that transcripts of the 14 top secret war room conferences should have been made public or something. Get fucking real for a change.

 

[MaggieMae]

YouTube - Obama: 1 Speech, 2 Faces

I think that all you can really count on Pilgrim, is that he is going to do exactly the OPPOSITE of what he SAID he would do.

Except that Pilgrim's (and the others too) love to post YouTube videos that have obviously been cut/pasted to justify their own agenda. You cons really do believe we're that stupid not to notice.

 

[MaggieMae]

He never tried the bipartisan thing. He said he would be bipartisan, but apparently he thinks that means that the other side has to agree with him, or off with their heads.

He did in fact try it. That's why he told them not to come to his door anymore with nothing more than plans to 'kill' the bill all the way around.

Republicans have been totally locked out of the health care debate, the President has not talked to one of them since last April. The no stimulus stimulus bill was passed first of all without ANYONE having the chance to read it, not one Republican in the house voted for it and only 3 Republican senators in the senate did. Those senators are Olympia Snow, Susan Collins, and Arlen Spector. Spector has changed parties again to become a democrat and Snow and Collins are nothing more than democrats dressed in Republican clothing. I would hardly call any of that bi-partisanship, there is NONE in this administration. IT IS ALL LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC RULE.

The republicans have great ideas about fixing what is broken in our health care system, but they are not being heard or allowed to speak, because this President is determined to ram a single payer system down the throats of Americans and always has been.

What are they Maple? If they were that great, then how come you (and nobody else) will recite them here and now? Or even provide paraphrased substance? I've been asking this question, seemingly for months on end, and NO ONE answers the question.

 

[Si modo]

He did in fact try it. That's why he told them not to come to his door anymore with nothing more than plans to 'kill' the bill all the way around.

Republicans have been totally locked out of the health care debate, the President has not talked to one of them since last April. The no stimulus stimulus bill was passed first of all without ANYONE having the chance to read it, not one Republican in the house voted for it and only 3 Republican senators in the senate did. Those senators are Olympia Snow, Susan Collins, and Arlen Spector. Spector has changed parties again to become a democrat and Snow and Collins are nothing more than democrats dressed in Republican clothing. I would hardly call any of that bi-partisanship, there is NONE in this administration. IT IS ALL LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC RULE.

The republicans have great ideas about fixing what is broken in our health care system, but they are not being heard or allowed to speak, because this President is determined to ram a single payer system down the throats of Americans and always has been.

What are they Maple? If they were that great, then how come you (and nobody else) will recite them here and now? Or even provide paraphrased substance? I've been asking this question, seemingly for months on end, and NO ONE answers the question.

There's no accounting for the willfully ignorant, except perhaps they may think a lie will eventually be true if they keep on repeating it.

 

[MaggieMae]

He never tried the bipartisan thing. He said he would be bipartisan, but apparently he thinks that means that the other side has to agree with him, or off with their heads.

He did in fact try it. That's why he told them not to come to his door anymore with nothing more than plans to 'kill' the bill all the way around.

The way He feels about that Bill and the Servitude it will manifest, is How We feel about Him and His Like undermining the Constitution and the Rule of Law.
Maybe He could do us all a favor and just leave the key's in the mail box.

How is it unconstitutional? Actually, Obama gave a basic outline of his wishes, but CONSTITUTIONALLY, he had to give it over to CONGRESS to do. What came out of the House was not "Obama's Bill," nor was the one finally agreed upon by the Finance Committee. The FINAL BILL will be the one that will be sanctioned by Obama.

Next?

 

[MaggieMae]

I think that when He speaks there should be a translator.

What's this? Only one smiley face? Yuck yuck, and I'll bet you really think you're "winning" this argument.

 

[MaggieMae]

Speaking of buffoonery... where's Joe Biden?

At Home Depot? Wallmart?

I'll bet you long for the days of Dick Cheney. Just think, you guys could be sweeping up radioactive dust from your inoperative laptops by now.

 

[MaggieMae]

Grasping, seriously grasping.

Oh really? I guess flipping on bipartisanship is far more important than flipping on where fucking trillions will actually come from, all in one speech.

 

[Zoom-boing]

He did in fact try it. That's why he told them not to come to his door anymore with nothing more than plans to 'kill' the bill all the way around.

Republicans have been totally locked out of the health care debate, the President has not talked to one of them since last April. The no stimulus stimulus bill was passed first of all without ANYONE having the chance to read it, not one Republican in the house voted for it and only 3 Republican senators in the senate did. Those senators are Olympia Snow, Susan Collins, and Arlen Spector. Spector has changed parties again to become a democrat and Snow and Collins are nothing more than democrats dressed in Republican clothing. I would hardly call any of that bi-partisanship, there is NONE in this administration. IT IS ALL LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC RULE.

The republicans have great ideas about fixing what is broken in our health care system, but they are not being heard or allowed to speak, because this President is determined to ram a single payer system down the throats of Americans and always has been.

What are they Maple? If they were that great, then how come you (and nobody else) will recite them here and now? Or even provide paraphrased substance? I've been asking this question, seemingly for months on end, and NO ONE answers the question.

I've seen the Republicans ideas and suggestions posted on here many, many times. Just because you haven't seen them or searched for them on your own doesn't mean they don't exist.

 

[MaggieMae]

Republicans have been totally locked out of the health care debate, the President has not talked to one of them since last April. The no stimulus stimulus bill was passed first of all without ANYONE having the chance to read it, not one Republican in the house voted for it and only 3 Republican senators in the senate did. Those senators are Olympia Snow, Susan Collins, and Arlen Spector. Spector has changed parties again to become a democrat and Snow and Collins are nothing more than democrats dressed in Republican clothing. I would hardly call any of that bi-partisanship, there is NONE in this administration. IT IS ALL LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC RULE.

The republicans have great ideas about fixing what is broken in our health care system, but they are not being heard or allowed to speak, because this President is determined to ram a single payer system down the throats of Americans and always has been.

What are they Maple? If they were that great, then how come you (and nobody else) will recite them here and now? Or even provide paraphrased substance? I've been asking this question, seemingly for months on end, and NO ONE answers the question.

There's no accounting for the willfully ignorant, except perhaps they may think a lie will eventually be true if they keep on repeating it.

Oh good response, genius! So profound!!

 

[MaggieMae]

Republicans have been totally locked out of the health care debate, the President has not talked to one of them since last April. The no stimulus stimulus bill was passed first of all without ANYONE having the chance to read it, not one Republican in the house voted for it and only 3 Republican senators in the senate did. Those senators are Olympia Snow, Susan Collins, and Arlen Spector. Spector has changed parties again to become a democrat and Snow and Collins are nothing more than democrats dressed in Republican clothing. I would hardly call any of that bi-partisanship, there is NONE in this administration. IT IS ALL LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC RULE.

The republicans have great ideas about fixing what is broken in our health care system, but they are not being heard or allowed to speak, because this President is determined to ram a single payer system down the throats of Americans and always has been.

What are they Maple? If they were that great, then how come you (and nobody else) will recite them here and now? Or even provide paraphrased substance? I've been asking this question, seemingly for months on end, and NO ONE answers the question.

I've seen the Republicans ideas and suggestions posted on here many, many times. Just because you haven't seen them or searched for them on your own doesn't mean they don't exist.

I've read all five.