What happens when you excessivily tax people?

Xenophon

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Nov 27, 2008
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They leave, as is happening in New York right now:

Tax refugees staging escape from New York

What's worse is that the families fleeing New York are being replaced by lower-income newcomers, who consequently pay less in taxes.

Overall, the ex-New Yorkers earn about 13 percent more than those who moved into the state, the study found.

Keep talking about squeezing people with higher taxes and you see them start to leave the country, not just a state.
 
I read this and was surprised that so many came to Jersey. NJ is actually experiencing the same thing.

New Jersey's reputation for heavy taxes was burnished Tuesday when it was named the worst state in two annual surveys by the nonprofit, nonpartisan Tax Foundation.

The foundation's annual State Business Tax Climate Index found the state's tax structure was the least hospitable to economic growth, and its survey of census data on property taxes found New Jersey's were tops in the nation.

From 2000 to 2008, nearly 800,000 households moved from New Jersey to another state, taking $57.7 billion in adjusted gross income out of New Jersey, according to data from the Internal Revenue Service. The dollars for those years were adjusted for inflation.

Countering that exodus was an influx from other states of some 636,000 households and $45 billion in adjusted gross income, in 2008 dollars. On balance, New Jersey had a net loss of 163,000 households and $12.8 billion in gross income, adjusted for inflation. The $12.8 billion figure represents about 4 percent of New Jersey's total taxable income.

And guess what? I have a feeling the tipping point has been met. Illegals and freeloaders may be over 50%. Our corrupt socialist governor may just be re-elected on Tuesday. PRAY FOR US!
 
They leave, as is happening in New York right now:

Tax refugees staging escape from New York

What's worse is that the families fleeing New York are being replaced by lower-income newcomers, who consequently pay less in taxes.

Overall, the ex-New Yorkers earn about 13 percent more than those who moved into the state, the study found.

Keep talking about squeezing people with higher taxes and you see them start to leave the country, not just a state.

You know this thread really hits home for me.

I want to open my own business and have saved up almost enough money to do it. But I live in MA and the taxes and regulations and fees are killer. I have seriously been thinking of moving to a few other states just because their policies toward small business are much more friendly than my home state. Plus I have family in them (NC, FLA, TX)
 
None of the scenarios involve increasing gov revenues to cover the huge deficeit Barry keeps expanding.

You cannot tax your way out of this, they have to STOP SPENDING.

Starting with Barrycare.

If they want reform, then do reform, make insurance companies cover all and cap the rates while allowing interstate sales and comprehensive tort reform.

THAT is ALL that is needed, not 'public options' and other sundry Barryish mumbo jumbo.
 
They leave, as is happening in New York right now:

Tax refugees staging escape from New York

What's worse is that the families fleeing New York are being replaced by lower-income newcomers, who consequently pay less in taxes.

Overall, the ex-New Yorkers earn about 13 percent more than those who moved into the state, the study found.

Keep talking about squeezing people with higher taxes and you see them start to leave the country, not just a state.

Amazing, isn't it? Gonna be kind of difficult to get the middle class and poor to pay for all their entitlement programs...
 
They leave, as is happening in New York right now:

Tax refugees staging escape from New York

What's worse is that the families fleeing New York are being replaced by lower-income newcomers, who consequently pay less in taxes.

Overall, the ex-New Yorkers earn about 13 percent more than those who moved into the state, the study found.

Keep talking about squeezing people with higher taxes and you see them start to leave the country, not just a state.

Amazing, isn't it? Gonna be kind of difficult to get the middle class and poor to pay for all their entitlement programs...
Barry can find those rich bastards wherever they go-----take from the rich states and give to the poor ones.
 
Well they can move all they want to but eventually there won't be any place to move to. Out of the Country, but they I bet will still be taxed up the ying yang.

The only way out of this mess is to delete all social programs! And I mean every f'ing one. It is time this country learns tough love, survival of the fittest
 
And to what nation would they be moving, these poor rich bastards? They pay a much smaller percentage of their income than does the middle class. In every other industrial nation in the world, they would be paying a much higher percentage of their income in taxes.

In 2006, the richest 400 people in this nation paid an actual rate of 17.2% of their income in taxes. Counting all the taxes, that is less than I pay. I really do feel for them.

Buffett tells Dems rich need to pay more - TheHill.com

It is an argument the investor has made before. Buffett said he paid a 16.5 percent tax rate on all his income because the tax rate on investment dividends and long-term capital gains is only 15 percent.

By contrast, a single employee at Buffet’s firm, Berkshire Hathaway, who earns between $33,000 and $83,000 must pay a 25 percent federal income tax rate.
 
They leave, as is happening in New York right now:

Tax refugees staging escape from New York



Keep talking about squeezing people with higher taxes and you see them start to leave the country, not just a state.

Amazing, isn't it? Gonna be kind of difficult to get the middle class and poor to pay for all their entitlement programs...
Barry can find those rich bastards wherever they go-----take from the rich states and give to the poor ones.

That is the point, he won't.

When they used to overtax in the 50s and 60s most millionaires moved to Europe to contries like Monaco & switzerland and their money stayed their's.

Barry will make this happen again.
 
Well they can move all they want to but eventually there won't be any place to move to. Out of the Country, but they I bet will still be taxed up the ying yang.

The only way out of this mess is to delete all social programs! And I mean every f'ing one. It is time this country learns tough love, survival of the fittest

Why sure. Just delete the VA. Soldiers pay is soldiers pay. No extra for housing or any other damned social give-away. How does that sound for a start?
 
Bull fucking shit. They don't leave, and they don't hide the money, and they don't refuse to pay.

Because higher taxes make a better economy, and they make much more money so they don't MIND paying their fair share!

Don't ya'll KNOW this?
 
They leave, as is happening in New York right now:

Tax refugees staging escape from New York



Keep talking about squeezing people with higher taxes and you see them start to leave the country, not just a state.

Amazing, isn't it? Gonna be kind of difficult to get the middle class and poor to pay for all their entitlement programs...
Barry can find those rich bastards wherever they go-----take from the rich states and give to the poor ones.

Ah yes, take from the rich states and give to the poor ones. Interesting that the states that have a negative flow with the federal government, that is, they send more money there than they get back, are almost all blue states. The ones with the positive cash flow, they get more money from the federal government than they send in, are almost all red.

I guess we can safely say the the Conservatives are far more parasitical than the liberals.
 
Ah yes, take from the rich states and give to the poor ones. Interesting that the states that have a negative flow with the federal government, that is, they send more money there than they get back, are almost all blue states. The ones with the positive cash flow, they get more money from the federal government than they send in, are almost all red.

I guess we can safely say the the Conservatives are far more parasitical than the liberals.
We can safely say that it's proof that welfare doesn't work. If it did, those states wouldn't need socialist benevolent patronage anymore.
 
Amazing, isn't it? Gonna be kind of difficult to get the middle class and poor to pay for all their entitlement programs...
Barry can find those rich bastards wherever they go-----take from the rich states and give to the poor ones.

Ah yes, take from the rich states and give to the poor ones. Interesting that the states that have a negative flow with the federal government, that is, they send more money there than they get back, are almost all blue states. The ones with the positive cash flow, they get more money from the federal government than they send in, are almost all red.

I guess we can safely say the the Conservatives are far more parasitical than the liberals.

Uh, no. The progressives in the blue states redistribute the wealth to the poor in the red states. Arkansas is considered a red State, yet most of this redistributed wealth from the rich conservatives in the blue States goes to the poor liberals in the red States. That's by design. Thank a progressive for that.
 
I read this and was surprised that so many came to Jersey. NJ is actually experiencing the same thing.

New Jersey's reputation for heavy taxes was burnished Tuesday when it was named the worst state in two annual surveys by the nonprofit, nonpartisan Tax Foundation.

The foundation's annual State Business Tax Climate Index found the state's tax structure was the least hospitable to economic growth, and its survey of census data on property taxes found New Jersey's were tops in the nation.

From 2000 to 2008, nearly 800,000 households moved from New Jersey to another state, taking $57.7 billion in adjusted gross income out of New Jersey, according to data from the Internal Revenue Service. The dollars for those years were adjusted for inflation.

Countering that exodus was an influx from other states of some 636,000 households and $45 billion in adjusted gross income, in 2008 dollars. On balance, New Jersey had a net loss of 163,000 households and $12.8 billion in gross income, adjusted for inflation. The $12.8 billion figure represents about 4 percent of New Jersey's total taxable income.

And guess what? I have a feeling the tipping point has been met. Illegals and freeloaders may be over 50%. Our corrupt socialist governor may just be re-elected on Tuesday. PRAY FOR US!



It's happening in California too. Nevada actually has an advertisement out making fun of the taxes & state legislature in California--trying to lure business's in California their way.

It's odd that the highest taxes states also have the largest deficits--:lol::lol:

Just go to show that the more you are taxed--the more government spends themselves into red ink. It's a never ending cycle of the destruction of American wealth.
 

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