Angry With Washington, 1 In 4 Americans Open To Secession

[Rikurzhen]

Secession may not even be an issue, a civil war might come first. The Democratic Party has fractured the Union. Every person who is granted a government check for doing nothing is going to be loyal to the party that gives them that check, and over the years the Democratic Party has secured enough votes to keep them in power. But the more people they "buy" with other people's money, the bigger the demand on the "other people" who are paying the tab and eventually the house of cards will collapse. When it does, the freeloaders will blame and attack the victims and the victims will fight back. That's when the proverbial shit will hit the fan.

The problem this creates is that such a war involves neighbor versus neighbor (or close enough) compared to state versus state. This means that you could be fighting against someone who lives 2 miles away from you while your allies are found in every state of the union. When you crack an egg you can separate the yolk from the white but once you've scrambled that egg, separating the yolk from the white is not an easy task. This means that a class/ideoloogy based war is by necessity going to have to involve population transfers in order to reach resolution.

 

[S.J.]

Secession may not even be an issue, a civil war might come first. The Democratic Party has fractured the Union. Every person who is granted a government check for doing nothing is going to be loyal to the party that gives them that check, and over the years the Democratic Party has secured enough votes to keep them in power. But the more people they "buy" with other people's money, the bigger the demand on the "other people" who are paying the tab and eventually the house of cards will collapse. When it does, the freeloaders will blame and attack the victims and the victims will fight back. That's when the proverbial shit will hit the fan.

The problem this creates is that such a war involves neighbor versus neighbor (or close enough) compared to state versus state. This means that you could be fighting against someone who lives 2 miles away from you while your allies are found in every state of the union. When you crack an egg you can separate the yolk from the white but once you've scrambled that egg, separating the yolk from the white is not an easy task. This means that a class/ideoloogy based war is by necessity going to have to involve population transfers in order to reach resolution.

I agree. It's not what I want but if secession doesn't start soon, it won't be an option because things have already gone too far. I don't see the takers changing their attitude toward entitlement.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Secession may not even be an issue, a civil war might come first. The Democratic Party has fractured the Union. Every person who is granted a government check for doing nothing is going to be loyal to the party that gives them that check, and over the years the Democratic Party has secured enough votes to keep them in power. But the more people they "buy" with other people's money, the bigger the demand on the "other people" who are paying the tab and eventually the house of cards will collapse. When it does, the freeloaders will blame and attack the victims and the victims will fight back. That's when the proverbial shit will hit the fan.

The problem this creates is that such a war involves neighbor versus neighbor (or close enough) compared to state versus state. This means that you could be fighting against someone who lives 2 miles away from you while your allies are found in every state of the union. When you crack an egg you can separate the yolk from the white but once you've scrambled that egg, separating the yolk from the white is not an easy task. This means that a class/ideoloogy based war is by necessity going to have to involve population transfers in order to reach resolution.

I agree. It's not what I want but if secession doesn't start soon, it won't be an option because things have already gone too far. I don't see the takers changing their attitude toward entitlement.

Secession is still a long ways off. Like frogs slowly being boiled to death in a pot of water, people will take on each new indignity and bear it rather than fight against it, people will always take the path of least resistance. At some point we get to the straw which breaks the back of the camel. The accumulated indignities simply become too much to bear and the most drastic step of secession and all that comes with that does become the path of least resistance.

This is major hardship territory for most people. Look at Scotland, they had a people, Scots, in one geographic location and a majority accepted the warm embrace of union and suppression rather than strike out on their own, but we don't have that here, here we have demon liberals living amongst us everywhere. To get to the BIG SORT is going to involve a lot of liberal totalitarian oppression before people finally have enough. It may involve you having to pick up stakes and move elsewhere and leave the liberal to live in your neighborhood, city, or state. It's not always your opponent who bears the cost.

 

[Lakhota]

Secession may not even be an issue, a civil war might come first. The Democratic Party has fractured the Union. Every person who is granted a government check for doing nothing is going to be loyal to the party that gives them that check, and over the years the Democratic Party has secured enough votes to keep them in power. But the more people they "buy" with other people's money, the bigger the demand on the "other people" who are paying the tab and eventually the house of cards will collapse. When it does, the freeloaders will blame and attack the victims and the victims will fight back. That's when the proverbial shit will hit the fan.

The problem this creates is that such a war involves neighbor versus neighbor (or close enough) compared to state versus state. This means that you could be fighting against someone who lives 2 miles away from you while your allies are found in every state of the union. When you crack an egg you can separate the yolk from the white but once you've scrambled that egg, separating the yolk from the white is not an easy task. This means that a class/ideoloogy based war is by necessity going to have to involve population transfers in order to reach resolution.

I agree. It's not what I want but if secession doesn't start soon, it won't be an option because things have already gone too far. I don't see the takers changing their attitude toward entitlement.

Secession is still a long ways off. Like frogs slowly being boiled to death in a pot of water, people will take on each new indignity and bear it rather than fight against it, people will always take the path of least resistance. At some point we get to the straw which breaks the back of the camel. The accumulated indignities simply become too much to bear and the most drastic step of secession and all that comes with that does become the path of least resistance.

This is major hardship territory for most people. Look at Scotland, they had a people, Scots, in one geographic location and a majority accepted the warm embrace of union and suppression rather than strike out on their own, but we don't have that here, here we have demon liberals living amongst us everywhere. To get to the BIG SORT is going to involve a lot of liberal totalitarian oppression before people finally have enough. It may involve you having to pick up stakes and move elsewhere and leave the liberal to live in your neighborhood, city, or state. It's not always your opponent who bears the cost.

Wow, that was profound. Your reference to "demon liberals" was a nice touch.

 

[Two Thumbs]

secession seems so extreme and dangerous and what makes anyone think it would really be that better?

Czechoslovakia split into Slovakia and the Czech Republic and both populations now report higher levels of satisfaction.

It's kind of like a battling married couple who are staying together for the sake of their ADULT children. When they finally do split, everyone is better off.

Liberals can have a part of the US. They can have Obamacare on steroids, they can boost welfare spending, they can have maternity leaves, they can have subsidized daycare, they can have full gender quotas in the workplace, they can have all the minority populations of the US to boost their diversity levels, they can implement full government control of desegregating neighborhoods to insure that every street has 30% black, 30% white, 30% Hispanic, 5% Asian and 5% Other population, they can outlaw private schools and make every kid attend public school, they can integrate neighborhoods by income, so that poor ghetto blacks live next to hipster white MBA and Museum curators, etc. They can have open borders and generous asylum policies for Muslims from the Middle East. They can cut defense spending to the bone:

Liberals can have their dream society.

Normal people can then be left alone to live away from liberals.

Like the Czechs and the Slovaks, everyone would be happier.

that split was based on tribal differences, so unless you want to cut cities out of states, it's not going to work per your example

 

[Rikurzhen]

secession seems so extreme and dangerous and what makes anyone think it would really be that better?

Czechoslovakia split into Slovakia and the Czech Republic and both populations now report higher levels of satisfaction.

It's kind of like a battling married couple who are staying together for the sake of their ADULT children. When they finally do split, everyone is better off.

Liberals can have a part of the US. They can have Obamacare on steroids, they can boost welfare spending, they can have maternity leaves, they can have subsidized daycare, they can have full gender quotas in the workplace, they can have all the minority populations of the US to boost their diversity levels, they can implement full government control of desegregating neighborhoods to insure that every street has 30% black, 30% white, 30% Hispanic, 5% Asian and 5% Other population, they can outlaw private schools and make every kid attend public school, they can integrate neighborhoods by income, so that poor ghetto blacks live next to hipster white MBA and Museum curators, etc. They can have open borders and generous asylum policies for Muslims from the Middle East. They can cut defense spending to the bone:

Liberals can have their dream society.

Normal people can then be left alone to live away from liberals.

Like the Czechs and the Slovaks, everyone would be happier.

that split was based on tribal differences, so unless you want to cut cities out of states, it's not going to work per your example

We're looking more at a Partition of Greater India type of arrangement. Hopefully a peaceful process.