And when only the police have guns....and decide the cartels pay better..they kill innocent people..

[2aguy]

Not quite....

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dg...snt-have-a-gun-problem-it-has-a-gang-problem/

A breakdown of the Chicago killing fields shows that 83% of those murdered in Chicago last year had criminal records. In Philly, it’s 75%. In Milwaukee it’s 77% percent. In New Orleans, it’s 64%. In Baltimore, it’s 91%. Many were felons who had served time. And as many as 80% of the homicides were gang related.


Chicago’s problem isn’t guns; it’s gangs. Gun control efforts in Chicago or any other major city are doomed because gangs represent organized crime networks which stretch down to Mexico, and trying to cut off their gun supply will be as effective as trying to cut off their drug supply.


America’s murder rate isn’t the work of the suburban and rural homeowners who shop for guns at sporting goods stores and at gun shows, and whom news shows profile after every shooting, but by the gangs embedded in the urban areas controlled by the Democratic machine. The gangs who drive up America’s murder rate look nothing like the occasional mentally ill suburban white kid who goes off his medication and decides to shoot up a school. Lanza, like most serial killers, is a media aberration, not the norm.


National murder statistics show that blacks are far more likely to be killers than whites and they are also far more likely to be killed. The single largest cause of homicides is the argument. 4th on the list is juvenile gang activity with 676 murders, which combined with various flavors of gangland killings takes us nearly to the 1,000 mark. America has more gangland murders than Sierra Leone, Eritrea and Puerto Rico have murders.

 

[2aguy]

And the rest of the country has no problem with guns...the large, mainly democrat controlled cities are where the killings happen....

Chicago’s murder rate of 15.65 per 100,000 people looks nothing like the American 4.2 rate, the Midwestern 4.5 or the Illinois’ 5.6 rates, but it does look like the murder rates in failed countries like Rwanda, Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe. To achieve Chicago’s murder rate, African countries usually have to experience a bloody genocidal civil war or decades of tyranny.

 

[Brain357]

And the rest of the country has no problem with guns...the large, mainly democrat controlled cities are where the killings happen....

Chicago’s murder rate of 15.65 per 100,000 people looks nothing like the American 4.2 rate, the Midwestern 4.5 or the Illinois’ 5.6 rates, but it does look like the murder rates in failed countries like Rwanda, Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe. To achieve Chicago’s murder rate, African countries usually have to experience a bloody genocidal civil war or decades of tyranny.

You mean large cities are where it happens. That is the case everywhere for obvious reasons.

 

[Brain357]

Not quite....

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dg...snt-have-a-gun-problem-it-has-a-gang-problem/

A breakdown of the Chicago killing fields shows that 83% of those murdered in Chicago last year had criminal records. In Philly, it’s 75%. In Milwaukee it’s 77% percent. In New Orleans, it’s 64%. In Baltimore, it’s 91%. Many were felons who had served time. And as many as 80% of the homicides were gang related.


Chicago’s problem isn’t guns; it’s gangs. Gun control efforts in Chicago or any other major city are doomed because gangs represent organized crime networks which stretch down to Mexico, and trying to cut off their gun supply will be as effective as trying to cut off their drug supply.


America’s murder rate isn’t the work of the suburban and rural homeowners who shop for guns at sporting goods stores and at gun shows, and whom news shows profile after every shooting, but by the gangs embedded in the urban areas controlled by the Democratic machine. The gangs who drive up America’s murder rate look nothing like the occasional mentally ill suburban white kid who goes off his medication and decides to shoot up a school. Lanza, like most serial killers, is a media aberration, not the norm.


National murder statistics show that blacks are far more likely to be killers than whites and they are also far more likely to be killed. The single largest cause of homicides is the argument. 4th on the list is juvenile gang activity with 676 murders, which combined with various flavors of gangland killings takes us nearly to the 1,000 mark. America has more gangland murders than Sierra Leone, Eritrea and Puerto Rico have murders.

You said us and Europe have gangs but theirs don't use guns. So it seems you can have gangs without a gun problem.

 

[Uncensored2008]

For God sakes. It's M E X I C O man. There isn't ANYTHING NORMAL in Mexico.

It's the 6th most wealthy nation on Earth - it OUGHT to be normal.

 

[2aguy]

Not quite....

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dg...snt-have-a-gun-problem-it-has-a-gang-problem/

A breakdown of the Chicago killing fields shows that 83% of those murdered in Chicago last year had criminal records. In Philly, it’s 75%. In Milwaukee it’s 77% percent. In New Orleans, it’s 64%. In Baltimore, it’s 91%. Many were felons who had served time. And as many as 80% of the homicides were gang related.


Chicago’s problem isn’t guns; it’s gangs. Gun control efforts in Chicago or any other major city are doomed because gangs represent organized crime networks which stretch down to Mexico, and trying to cut off their gun supply will be as effective as trying to cut off their drug supply.


America’s murder rate isn’t the work of the suburban and rural homeowners who shop for guns at sporting goods stores and at gun shows, and whom news shows profile after every shooting, but by the gangs embedded in the urban areas controlled by the Democratic machine. The gangs who drive up America’s murder rate look nothing like the occasional mentally ill suburban white kid who goes off his medication and decides to shoot up a school. Lanza, like most serial killers, is a media aberration, not the norm.


National murder statistics show that blacks are far more likely to be killers than whites and they are also far more likely to be killed. The single largest cause of homicides is the argument. 4th on the list is juvenile gang activity with 676 murders, which combined with various flavors of gangland killings takes us nearly to the 1,000 mark. America has more gangland murders than Sierra Leone, Eritrea and Puerto Rico have murders.

You said us and Europe have gangs but theirs don't use guns. So it seems you can have gangs without a gun problem.

Like I said....let's trade them gangs.....and see what happens......

 

[2aguy]

And the rest of the country has no problem with guns...the large, mainly democrat controlled cities are where the killings happen....

Chicago’s murder rate of 15.65 per 100,000 people looks nothing like the American 4.2 rate, the Midwestern 4.5 or the Illinois’ 5.6 rates, but it does look like the murder rates in failed countries like Rwanda, Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe. To achieve Chicago’s murder rate, African countries usually have to experience a bloody genocidal civil war or decades of tyranny.

You mean large cities are where it happens. That is the case everywhere for obvious reasons.

Majority democrat controlled cities....New York, L.A., Baltimore, Chicago.......

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

And the rest of the country has no problem with guns...the large, mainly democrat controlled cities are where the killings happen....

Chicago’s murder rate of 15.65 per 100,000 people looks nothing like the American 4.2 rate, the Midwestern 4.5 or the Illinois’ 5.6 rates, but it does look like the murder rates in failed countries like Rwanda, Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe. To achieve Chicago’s murder rate, African countries usually have to experience a bloody genocidal civil war or decades of tyranny.

You mean large cities are where it happens. That is the case everywhere for obvious reasons.

Majority democrat controlled cities....New York, L.A., Baltimore, Chicago.......

Detroit...........

 

[Brain357]

And the rest of the country has no problem with guns...the large, mainly democrat controlled cities are where the killings happen....

Chicago’s murder rate of 15.65 per 100,000 people looks nothing like the American 4.2 rate, the Midwestern 4.5 or the Illinois’ 5.6 rates, but it does look like the murder rates in failed countries like Rwanda, Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe. To achieve Chicago’s murder rate, African countries usually have to experience a bloody genocidal civil war or decades of tyranny.

You mean large cities are where it happens. That is the case everywhere for obvious reasons.

Majority democrat controlled cities....New York, L.A., Baltimore, Chicago.......

The largest cities have the most crime for obvious reasons.

 

[2aguy]

Here is a look at violence and Europe....

Historia Futura Praedicit Is America Really More Violent Than Europe

Having normalized the data we still see that there is a significant difference between the European Union and the US. The EU has a violent crime rate nearly a third higher than the United States. At this point we can say, assuming my data is in the ball park, that while the US has a murder rate far higher than the EU it has lower instances of other violent crimes relative to the European nations. I will admit that I was surprised at this point, I had assumed that there would be lower instances of violent crime than the US, but the data points in the opposite direction. So I decided to take a look at some other European nations.

 

[Brain357]

Not quite....

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dg...snt-have-a-gun-problem-it-has-a-gang-problem/

A breakdown of the Chicago killing fields shows that 83% of those murdered in Chicago last year had criminal records. In Philly, it’s 75%. In Milwaukee it’s 77% percent. In New Orleans, it’s 64%. In Baltimore, it’s 91%. Many were felons who had served time. And as many as 80% of the homicides were gang related.


Chicago’s problem isn’t guns; it’s gangs. Gun control efforts in Chicago or any other major city are doomed because gangs represent organized crime networks which stretch down to Mexico, and trying to cut off their gun supply will be as effective as trying to cut off their drug supply.


America’s murder rate isn’t the work of the suburban and rural homeowners who shop for guns at sporting goods stores and at gun shows, and whom news shows profile after every shooting, but by the gangs embedded in the urban areas controlled by the Democratic machine. The gangs who drive up America’s murder rate look nothing like the occasional mentally ill suburban white kid who goes off his medication and decides to shoot up a school. Lanza, like most serial killers, is a media aberration, not the norm.


National murder statistics show that blacks are far more likely to be killers than whites and they are also far more likely to be killed. The single largest cause of homicides is the argument. 4th on the list is juvenile gang activity with 676 murders, which combined with various flavors of gangland killings takes us nearly to the 1,000 mark. America has more gangland murders than Sierra Leone, Eritrea and Puerto Rico have murders.

You said us and Europe have gangs but theirs don't use guns. So it seems you can have gangs without a gun problem.

Like I said....let's trade them gangs.....and see what happens......

Their gangs thrown into a country with guns everywhere would also use guns. But when not surrounded by guns they don't use them.

 

[2aguy]

And the rest of the country has no problem with guns...the large, mainly democrat controlled cities are where the killings happen....

Chicago’s murder rate of 15.65 per 100,000 people looks nothing like the American 4.2 rate, the Midwestern 4.5 or the Illinois’ 5.6 rates, but it does look like the murder rates in failed countries like Rwanda, Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe. To achieve Chicago’s murder rate, African countries usually have to experience a bloody genocidal civil war or decades of tyranny.

You mean large cities are where it happens. That is the case everywhere for obvious reasons.

Majority democrat controlled cities....New York, L.A., Baltimore, Chicago.......

The largest cities have the most crime for obvious reasons.

And democrats who help keep the people poor, angry, uneducated, hopeless and dependent......all ingredients for gang recruitment......

 

[Brain357]

Here is a look at violence and Europe....

Historia Futura Praedicit Is America Really More Violent Than Europe

Having normalized the data we still see that there is a significant difference between the European Union and the US. The EU has a violent crime rate nearly a third higher than the United States. At this point we can say, assuming my data is in the ball park, that while the US has a murder rate far higher than the EU it has lower instances of other violent crimes relative to the European nations. I will admit that I was surprised at this point, I had assumed that there would be lower instances of violent crime than the US, but the data points in the opposite direction. So I decided to take a look at some other European nations.

Ours have more guns, apparently that makes them more deadly.

 

[2aguy]

Not quite....

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dg...snt-have-a-gun-problem-it-has-a-gang-problem/

A breakdown of the Chicago killing fields shows that 83% of those murdered in Chicago last year had criminal records. In Philly, it’s 75%. In Milwaukee it’s 77% percent. In New Orleans, it’s 64%. In Baltimore, it’s 91%. Many were felons who had served time. And as many as 80% of the homicides were gang related.


Chicago’s problem isn’t guns; it’s gangs. Gun control efforts in Chicago or any other major city are doomed because gangs represent organized crime networks which stretch down to Mexico, and trying to cut off their gun supply will be as effective as trying to cut off their drug supply.


America’s murder rate isn’t the work of the suburban and rural homeowners who shop for guns at sporting goods stores and at gun shows, and whom news shows profile after every shooting, but by the gangs embedded in the urban areas controlled by the Democratic machine. The gangs who drive up America’s murder rate look nothing like the occasional mentally ill suburban white kid who goes off his medication and decides to shoot up a school. Lanza, like most serial killers, is a media aberration, not the norm.


National murder statistics show that blacks are far more likely to be killers than whites and they are also far more likely to be killed. The single largest cause of homicides is the argument. 4th on the list is juvenile gang activity with 676 murders, which combined with various flavors of gangland killings takes us nearly to the 1,000 mark. America has more gangland murders than Sierra Leone, Eritrea and Puerto Rico have murders.

You said us and Europe have gangs but theirs don't use guns. So it seems you can have gangs without a gun problem.

Like I said....let's trade them gangs.....and see what happens......

Their gangs thrown into a country with guns everywhere would also use guns. But when not surrounded by guns they don't use them.

not likely.........since their gangs can easily get guns and do use them when they want or need them..........as gun crime in Europe shows.....

 

[Brain357]

And the rest of the country has no problem with guns...the large, mainly democrat controlled cities are where the killings happen....

Chicago’s murder rate of 15.65 per 100,000 people looks nothing like the American 4.2 rate, the Midwestern 4.5 or the Illinois’ 5.6 rates, but it does look like the murder rates in failed countries like Rwanda, Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe. To achieve Chicago’s murder rate, African countries usually have to experience a bloody genocidal civil war or decades of tyranny.

You mean large cities are where it happens. That is the case everywhere for obvious reasons.

Majority democrat controlled cities....New York, L.A., Baltimore, Chicago.......

The largest cities have the most crime for obvious reasons.

And democrats who help keep the people poor, angry, uneducated, hopeless and dependent......all ingredients for gang recruitment......

Really on a city level? How does a mayor do that exactly? Party politics really aren't at a city level. What different do republican mayors do?

 

[Brain357]

Not quite....

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dg...snt-have-a-gun-problem-it-has-a-gang-problem/

A breakdown of the Chicago killing fields shows that 83% of those murdered in Chicago last year had criminal records. In Philly, it’s 75%. In Milwaukee it’s 77% percent. In New Orleans, it’s 64%. In Baltimore, it’s 91%. Many were felons who had served time. And as many as 80% of the homicides were gang related.


Chicago’s problem isn’t guns; it’s gangs. Gun control efforts in Chicago or any other major city are doomed because gangs represent organized crime networks which stretch down to Mexico, and trying to cut off their gun supply will be as effective as trying to cut off their drug supply.


America’s murder rate isn’t the work of the suburban and rural homeowners who shop for guns at sporting goods stores and at gun shows, and whom news shows profile after every shooting, but by the gangs embedded in the urban areas controlled by the Democratic machine. The gangs who drive up America’s murder rate look nothing like the occasional mentally ill suburban white kid who goes off his medication and decides to shoot up a school. Lanza, like most serial killers, is a media aberration, not the norm.


National murder statistics show that blacks are far more likely to be killers than whites and they are also far more likely to be killed. The single largest cause of homicides is the argument. 4th on the list is juvenile gang activity with 676 murders, which combined with various flavors of gangland killings takes us nearly to the 1,000 mark. America has more gangland murders than Sierra Leone, Eritrea and Puerto Rico have murders.

You said us and Europe have gangs but theirs don't use guns. So it seems you can have gangs without a gun problem.

Like I said....let's trade them gangs.....and see what happens......

Their gangs thrown into a country with guns everywhere would also use guns. But when not surrounded by guns they don't use them.

not likely.........since their gangs can easily get guns and do use them when they want or need them..........as gun crime in Europe shows.....

Few guns there they don't use them. Many guns here of course they would.

 

[Porker]

For God sakes. It's M E X I C O man. There isn't ANYTHING NORMAL in Mexico.

It's the 6th most wealthy nation on Earth - it OUGHT to be normal.

Like I said...There isn't ANYTHING NORMAL in Mexico.

 

[2aguy]

And the rest of the country has no problem with guns...the large, mainly democrat controlled cities are where the killings happen....

You mean large cities are where it happens. That is the case everywhere for obvious reasons.

Majority democrat controlled cities....New York, L.A., Baltimore, Chicago.......

The largest cities have the most crime for obvious reasons.

And democrats who help keep the people poor, angry, uneducated, hopeless and dependent......all ingredients for gang recruitment......

Really on a city level? How does a mayor do that exactly? Party politics really aren't at a city level. What different do republican mayors do?

Democrats as a party believe that businesses exist to fund their welfare state agenda...there fore democrats at a city level raise taxes, fines and fees on busineees to the point they leave....democrats as a party believe in massive welfare spending ...the kind that breaks up the 2 parent family creating generations of children raising children.....democrats as a party support teachers unions over school reform....the politicians raise taxes on individuals and businesses and give it to education.....which is controlled by democrat controlled unions....teachers get their salaries from the taxes and give dues to the unions who kick it back to the politicians who gave them their contracts......laundering the tax money...and repeating the cycle...and the loser...the guy paying the tax......so more people leave the cities, lowering the tax base....

And the democrat unions fight education reform.....essentially standing in the school house door...in reverse, before they stood in the door to keep minorities out....not they want to keep them from leaving....

So democrat policies drive out businesses.....ruin education....graduating only 50% of the students and those that do graduate can barely read or do math....

Then...on top of all of this...democrats as a party hate the police....see them as oppressors...so they under fund them...under staff them....and then under mine their authority and their ability to do their jobs.......Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, Ferguson, and Milwaukee most lately in the news.....

Which increases the crime rate...which drives out tax payers.....which all put together are all democrat party policies that create poverty, unemployment, and new soldiers for the gangs and drug runners........

All from policies put in place by local and state democrats......

Democrat policies are at the heart of the destruction of these cities..........through and through....

 

[Brain357]

You mean large cities are where it happens. That is the case everywhere for obvious reasons.

Majority democrat controlled cities....New York, L.A., Baltimore, Chicago.......

The largest cities have the most crime for obvious reasons.

And democrats who help keep the people poor, angry, uneducated, hopeless and dependent......all ingredients for gang recruitment......

Really on a city level? How does a mayor do that exactly? Party politics really aren't at a city level. What different do republican mayors do?

Democrats as a party believe that businesses exist to fund their welfare state agenda...there fore democrats at a city level raise taxes, fines and fees on busineees to the point they leave....democrats as a party believe in massive welfare spending ...the kind that breaks up the 2 parent family creating generations of children raising children.....democrats as a party support teachers unions over school reform....the politicians raise taxes on individuals and businesses and give it to education.....which is controlled by democrat controlled unions....teachers get their salaries from the taxes and give dues to the unions who kick it back to the politicians who gave them their contracts......laundering the tax money...and repeating the cycle...and the loser...the guy paying the tax......so more people leave the cities, lowering the tax base....

And the democrat unions fight education reform.....essentially standing in the school house door...in reverse, before they stood in the door to keep minorities out....not they want to keep them from leaving....

So democrat policies drive out businesses.....ruin education....graduating only 50% of the students and those that do graduate can barely read or do math....

Then...on top of all of this...democrats as a party hate the police....see them as oppressors...so they under fund them...under staff them....and then under mine their authority and their ability to do their jobs.......Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, Ferguson, and Milwaukee most lately in the news.....

Which increases the crime rate...which drives out tax payers.....which all put together are all democrat party policies that create poverty, unemployment, and new soldiers for the gangs and drug runners........

All from policies put in place by local and state democrats......

Democrat policies are at the heart of the destruction of these cities..........through and through....

So our jails are the fullest in the world with underfunded police? How these people get in jail?

I'm really not buying your claims.

repubublican education reform is taking money out of educatuon. Or vouchers to hurt public schools.

Haven't seen a city try to run businesses out. I see republicans constantly give away tax dollars though.

 

[2aguy]

Brain.....look at the murder rates in Britain from way back when.......they have never been that high......long before they banned guns.....so again...guns aren't the problem....

their gangs can get guns when they want or need them, and they have a low violence level....long before they banned their guns.........so guns aren't the difference...the culture of the criminal is.....

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