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Wonder if Obama is gonna hold those checks hostage, too?Not yet. They are waiting on the green light if/when the Debt ceiling is raised...so he can collect it.HOW'S THAT RETARD CHARITY WORKING OUT??
Depends. You get a check yet?
Of course he will. And he will cite the 14th Amendment as justification.Wonder if Obama is gonna hold those checks hostage, too?Not yet. They are waiting on the green light if/when the Debt ceiling is raised...so he can collect it.Depends. You get a check yet?
the righties in this thread are as partisan as they come
‪Former senator Alan Simpson on cutting debt: Must raise revenue‬‏ - YouTube
I'd cease AID to Egypt. UP aid to Israel (If we had it)...Anyone who believes that letter was from a "conservative" is a moron.
"Conservative" like "liberal" are characterizations unfortunately lumping all into either/or, when in fact the majority of thinking people who call themselves "conservatives" don't want to break the back of the government's ability to provide an umbrella for the less fortunate. For one thing, THINKING conservatives know that to do so would eventually cost even more money, especially for the states. Not saying you, personally, don't THINK, but just THINK about the all-inclusive defining of the two parties today. It's so simplistic and idiotic that I do wonder what has happened to logic, compassion, and good old rational analysis before going off half cocked.
Far left liberals are at the opposite end of the spectrum. They don't want any reductions in government entitlement programs and other domestic umbrella programs, and haven't thought through the enormous additional cost that will be incurred as the baby boomers begin to retire, Mideast war veterans returning home to find jobs that aren't even there for folks who have had less, and in some cases no income coming in to speak of. OF COURSE those programs must be scaled back, but they can't be eliminated to the point those same people who rely on them will just look elsewhere in order to survive (more families living in government-funded shelters, more people looking for heating assistance, more people looking for food stamps. Will normally law-abiding citizens turn to crime?). Nor can more money be added to those programs in order to accommodate an ever-increasing out-of-work job force. THINKING liberals are proactive and focus on long-term solutions rather than REacting to short-term ones.
All it takes for us to have a balanced budget is to return to the size of government we had in 2002. Maybe liberals and conservatives should "think" about that? We are spending $ trillions that we don't have - borrowing money from other countries -many of whom we give Aid to!! Think about how stupid this is! Take Israel for an example - we gave them $791 Million in economic AID in 2009 (we gave them another $2.5 billion in military aid too!) They took our economic "aid" and invested $240 million of it into....US Treasury Bonds!!! Egypt averages around $500 million in economic aid per year and they purchased, on average, $400 Million in treasury bonds per year.
There is so much fraud, waste and abuse at every level of government that is sickening. Suggesting that "people will suffer" if we don't continue to spend $3.6 trillion per year is ridiculous.
Coffee Party is a fucking JOKE. What a waste of bandwidth.
Well, he is a Constitutional scholar, after all.Of course he will. And he will cite the 14th Amendment as justification.Wonder if Obama is gonna hold those checks hostage, too?Not yet. They are waiting on the green light if/when the Debt ceiling is raised...so he can collect it.
Here is a brief bio of the man who wrote the letter. I guess if you don't agree with him, he's not a Republican, is that correct?
Michael Stafford is a 2003 graduate of Duke University School of Law, a former Republican Party officer from Delaware, and the founder of the Coffee Party 2.0 pilot project, Republicans for Responsible Reform. His writing has been featured on national and local blogs such as FrumForum, The Cagle Post, and TommyWonk. He is the author of An Upward Calling: Politics for the Common Good published by AVT Books.
I'd like to see who he wants to run on the GOP Platform in 2012.
No just non-thinking Statists as *YOU*LOL, sure he is a Republican.
all I saw was, blaaa blaaa blaaaa, you Republicans bad, them Democrats ARE the saints in all this.
It sounded right out of the playbook of the Liberals on this board.
what a JOKE
Must you always criticize and be such a downer??? What IS your problem, Steph?? You're another one at war with the world and everybody in it.
Anyone who believes that letter was from a "conservative" is a moron.
"Conservative" like "liberal" are characterizations unfortunately lumping all into either/or, when in fact the majority of thinking people who call themselves "conservatives" don't want to break the back of the government's ability to provide an umbrella for the less fortunate. For one thing, THINKING conservatives know that to do so would eventually cost even more money, especially for the states. Not saying you, personally, don't THINK, but just THINK about the all-inclusive defining of the two parties today. It's so simplistic and idiotic that I do wonder what has happened to logic, compassion, and good old rational analysis before going off half cocked.
Far left liberals are at the opposite end of the spectrum. They don't want any reductions in government entitlement programs and other domestic umbrella programs, and haven't thought through the enormous additional cost that will be incurred as the baby boomers begin to retire, Mideast war veterans returning home to find jobs that aren't even there for folks who have had less, and in some cases no income coming in to speak of. OF COURSE those programs must be scaled back, but they can't be eliminated to the point those same people who rely on them will just look elsewhere in order to survive (more families living in government-funded shelters, more people looking for heating assistance, more people looking for food stamps. Will normally law-abiding citizens turn to crime?). Nor can more money be added to those programs in order to accommodate an ever-increasing out-of-work job force. THINKING liberals are proactive and focus on long-term solutions rather than REacting to short-term ones.
All it takes for us to have a balanced budget is to return to the size of government we had in 2002. Maybe liberals and conservatives should "think" about that? We are spending $ trillions that we don't have - borrowing money from other countries -many of whom we give Aid to!! Think about how stupid this is! Take Israel for an example - we gave them $791 Million in economic AID in 2009 (we gave them another $2.5 billion in military aid too!) They took our economic "aid" and invested $240 million of it into....US Treasury Bonds!!! Egypt averages around $500 million in economic aid per year and they purchased, on average, $400 Million in treasury bonds per year.
There is so much fraud, waste and abuse at every level of government that is sickening. Suggesting that "people will suffer" if we don't continue to spend $3.6 trillion per year is ridiculous.
I'd cease AID to Egypt. UP aid to Israel (If we had it)..."Conservative" like "liberal" are characterizations unfortunately lumping all into either/or, when in fact the majority of thinking people who call themselves "conservatives" don't want to break the back of the government's ability to provide an umbrella for the less fortunate. For one thing, THINKING conservatives know that to do so would eventually cost even more money, especially for the states. Not saying you, personally, don't THINK, but just THINK about the all-inclusive defining of the two parties today. It's so simplistic and idiotic that I do wonder what has happened to logic, compassion, and good old rational analysis before going off half cocked.
Far left liberals are at the opposite end of the spectrum. They don't want any reductions in government entitlement programs and other domestic umbrella programs, and haven't thought through the enormous additional cost that will be incurred as the baby boomers begin to retire, Mideast war veterans returning home to find jobs that aren't even there for folks who have had less, and in some cases no income coming in to speak of. OF COURSE those programs must be scaled back, but they can't be eliminated to the point those same people who rely on them will just look elsewhere in order to survive (more families living in government-funded shelters, more people looking for heating assistance, more people looking for food stamps. Will normally law-abiding citizens turn to crime?). Nor can more money be added to those programs in order to accommodate an ever-increasing out-of-work job force. THINKING liberals are proactive and focus on long-term solutions rather than REacting to short-term ones.
All it takes for us to have a balanced budget is to return to the size of government we had in 2002. Maybe liberals and conservatives should "think" about that? We are spending $ trillions that we don't have - borrowing money from other countries -many of whom we give Aid to!! Think about how stupid this is! Take Israel for an example - we gave them $791 Million in economic AID in 2009 (we gave them another $2.5 billion in military aid too!) They took our economic "aid" and invested $240 million of it into....US Treasury Bonds!!! Egypt averages around $500 million in economic aid per year and they purchased, on average, $400 Million in treasury bonds per year.
There is so much fraud, waste and abuse at every level of government that is sickening. Suggesting that "people will suffer" if we don't continue to spend $3.6 trillion per year is ridiculous.
I for one don't wish to replay the 1930's or 40's. Some seem Hellbent on reliving those events.We need to return to the same spending level that we had in 2002 because that is the level of revenue that we currently take in. It's not rocket science. We collect $2.4 Trillion we spend $3.6 Trillion. That will not work. We need to balance the budget and start paying down the national debt. If we don't we will go the route of every other Republic in history and fall.
We need to return to the same spending level that we had in 2002 because that is the level of revenue that we currently take in. It's not rocket science. We collect $2.4 Trillion we spend $3.6 Trillion. That will not work. We need to balance the budget and start paying down the national debt. If we don't we will go the route of every other Republic in history and fall.
God damned right Obama is failing...and rightfully so. But hey? You are profiting right? How's it feel to back the LOSER that is Obama?another buzzword.. "obstruct."
You hope he fails, right??? Then why don't you just go live somewhere else?? We don't want you. If you want the president to fail, you don't deserve to be an American.
Anyone who believes that letter was from a "conservative" is a moron.
another buzzword.. "obstruct."
You hope he fails, right??? Then why don't you just go live somewhere else?? We don't want you. If you want the president to fail, you don't deserve to be an American.
I for one don't wish to replay the 1930's or 40's. Some seem Hellbent on reliving those events.We need to return to the same spending level that we had in 2002 because that is the level of revenue that we currently take in. It's not rocket science. We collect $2.4 Trillion we spend $3.6 Trillion. That will not work. We need to balance the budget and start paying down the national debt. If we don't we will go the route of every other Republic in history and fall.
It's unacceptable. Those that know what to do refuse to. Wonder why?
Well, he is a Constitutional scholar, after all.Of course he will. And he will cite the 14th Amendment as justification.Wonder if Obama is gonna hold those checks hostage, too?
I'm not a fan of partisian bullcrap. I've lived a fair number of decades and I've never seen the divide worse. Republicans cater to the wealthy and corporations, because that's their bread-and-butter campaign contribution base. Democrats cater to unions, poor working class, and minorities because that's their bread-and-butter voter base.
Nobody gives a damn about issues anymore. Folks seem perfectly happy to read the GOP/Dem party platform to learn what they should think, then repeat the party talking points without engaging a single brain cell.
We didn't get from a surplus in 2000 to the deficit we have today because of a single administration. We got it via two major overseas wars, record spending combined with record tax cuts by back-to-back GOP administrations, all of which has been carried forward by the current Democratic administration.
You know who's responsible for the mess that we as a nation are now facing? Politicians, that's who. Right, left, center, radical, moderate... at their very core they are all politicians, and the only thing they are working for is their own reelection.
Because they sure as hell aren't working for us.
