And now a word from the "Coffee Party".....

[auditor0007]

Aw, come on and admit it:

The Tea Party is the "Free Liberatarian" wing of the Republican Party, the 'RINOS' are the real conservatives.

That's all there is to it.

I really can't blame them, our 2 party system has everyone else locked out, so if the Tea Party people joined the Liberatarian party, they would have zero chance of winning elections, which is a shame - they have to masquerade as conservatives, and call real conservatives 'RINOs'.

Now real Conservatives aren't getting representation in their own party and are sufferimg mild persecution for being real conservatives.

At least the people on the left know a liberal from a social-democrat, from a leftist, from a communist.

But those on the right think that everyone in the middle and on the left are communists.

 

[ClosedCaption]

LOL, sure he is a Republican.

all I saw was, blaaa blaaa blaaaa, you Republicans bad, them Democrats ARE the saints in all this.

It sounded right out of the playbook of the Liberals on this board.

what a JOKE

I read it and he never said dems were right, correct or sane. Why are you so sensitive all the time?

He critiques his own party and the first thing repubs scream is he's a liar and a phony whos not really a conservative. In short unless Republicans say the same as every other republican they are not a real republican or worse...a democrat is disguise. It's tiring to always be so defensive about everything and see boogeymen around every corner, news story, blog etc.

Shit it wasn't that long ago repubs were saying Karl Frigging Rove wasn't a "real conservative"....seriously

 

[Stephanie]

Aw, come on and admit it:

The Tea Party is the "Free Liberatarian" wing of the Republican Party, the 'RINOS' are the real conservatives.

That's all there is to it.

I really can't blame them, our 2 party system has everyone else locked out, so if the Tea Party people joined the Liberatarian party, they would have zero chance of winning elections, which is a shame - they have to masquerade as conservatives, and call real conservatives 'RINOs'.

Now real Conservatives aren't getting representation in their own party and are sufferimg mild persecution for being real conservatives.

At least the people on the left know a liberal from a social-democrat, from a leftist, from a communist.

But those on the right think that everyone in the middle and on the left are communists.

oh brother.

 

[random3434]

LOL, sure he is a Republican.

all I saw was, blaaa blaaa blaaaa, you Republicans bad, them Democrats ARE the saints in all this.

It sounded right out of the playbook of the Liberals on this board.

what a JOKE

I read it and he never said dems were right, correct or sane. Why are you so sensitive all the time?

He critiques his own party and the first thing repubs scream is he's a liar and a phony whos not really a conservative. In short unless Republicans say the same as every other republican they are not a real republican or worse...a democrat is disguise. It's tiring to always be so defensive about everything and see boogeymen around every corner, news story, blog etc.

Shit it wasn't that long ago repubs were saying Karl Frigging Rove wasn't a "real conservative"....seriously

She doesn't let facts get in the way of her partisanship......

 

[whitehall]

Dear Speaker Boehner,

As a Republican, I have followed your handling of the debt ceiling negotiations, and the future of the federal budget, with mounting concern. You appear to be engaged in a game of partisan brinksmanship with our nation’s financial future. Now is not the time for scoring political points or playing to the fantasies of the anti-government libertarian zealots within our Party.

Your handling of the debt ceiling negotiations, and the prior budget proposals advanced in Representative Paul Ryan’s “Path to Prosperity,” makes it clear that the GOP is more concerned with protecting the interests of America’s most wealthy citizens, even to the detriment of the rest of us, and to the common good. For example, it is farcical to frame the debt and the deficit as merely problems of spending — they are, in fact, issues created by both expenditures and revenues. Nor is taking an axe to the federal government an acceptable solution — traditionally, we conservatives have been in favor of a limited government, not an eviscerated one. In the end, we simply have to pay for the services we expect government to provide. As such, a discussion of raising additional revenue — taxes — must be a part of any long-term solution.

Read more of his letter here:

Dear Speaker Boehner: An open letter on the debt and the budget | Coffee Party[/QUO

 

[Stephanie]

LOL, sure he is a Republican.

all I saw was, blaaa blaaa blaaaa, you Republicans bad, them Democrats ARE the saints in all this.

It sounded right out of the playbook of the Liberals on this board.

what a JOKE

I read it and he never said dems were right, correct or sane. Why are you so sensitive all the time?

He critiques his own party and the first thing repubs scream is he's a liar and a phony whos not really a conservative. In short unless Republicans say the same as every other republican they are not a real republican or worse...a democrat is disguise. It's tiring to always be so defensive about everything and see boogeymen around every corner, news story, blog etc.

Shit it wasn't that long ago repubs were saying Karl Frigging Rove wasn't a "real conservative"....seriously

I don't kindly to people who represent themselves AS something they are not.
anyone can say they are Republican, and that letter reeked OF what I have read from the left.

 

[Defiant1]

This guy sounds confused. I wish I knew what state he's from so i could send him an application so he can change his voter registration.

I wonder if he's confused about his gender too.

 

[DiAnna]

I'm not a fan of partisian bullcrap. I've lived a fair number of decades and I've never seen the divide worse. Republicans cater to the wealthy and corporations, because that's their bread-and-butter campaign contribution base. Democrats cater to unions, poor working class, and minorities because that's their bread-and-butter voter base.

Nobody gives a damn about issues anymore. Folks seem perfectly happy to read the GOP/Dem party platform to learn what they should think, then repeat the party talking points without engaging a single brain cell.

We didn't get from a surplus in 2000 to the deficit we have today because of a single administration. We got it via two major overseas wars, record spending combined with record tax cuts by back-to-back GOP administrations, all of which has been carried forward by the current Democratic administration.

You know who's responsible for the mess that we as a nation are now facing? Politicians, that's who. Right, left, center, radical, moderate... at their very core they are all politicians, and the only thing they are working for is their own reelection.

Because they sure as hell aren't working for us.

 

[Stephanie]

LOL, sure he is a Republican.

all I saw was, blaaa blaaa blaaaa, you Republicans bad, them Democrats ARE the saints in all this.

It sounded right out of the playbook of the Liberals on this board.

what a JOKE

I read it and he never said dems were right, correct or sane. Why are you so sensitive all the time?

He critiques his own party and the first thing repubs scream is he's a liar and a phony whos not really a conservative. In short unless Republicans say the same as every other republican they are not a real republican or worse...a democrat is disguise. It's tiring to always be so defensive about everything and see boogeymen around every corner, news story, blog etc.

Shit it wasn't that long ago repubs were saying Karl Frigging Rove wasn't a "real conservative"....seriously

She doesn't let facts get in the way of her partisanship......

yawn. you love the letter because he supposedly puts down his own party.
nothing more.

 

[random3434]

I read it and he never said dems were right, correct or sane. Why are you so sensitive all the time?

He critiques his own party and the first thing repubs scream is he's a liar and a phony whos not really a conservative. In short unless Republicans say the same as every other republican they are not a real republican or worse...a democrat is disguise. It's tiring to always be so defensive about everything and see boogeymen around every corner, news story, blog etc.

Shit it wasn't that long ago repubs were saying Karl Frigging Rove wasn't a "real conservative"....seriously

She doesn't let facts get in the way of her partisanship......

yawn. you love the letter because he supposedly puts down his own party.
nothing more.

Really? You can read my mind hack?

He's calling for a change, something that needs to be done in our government. He has some good ideas, but you're so blind to your views you can't open your eyes and see it.

 

[Stephanie]

She doesn't let facts get in the way of her partisanship......

yawn. you love the letter because he supposedly puts down his own party.
nothing more.

Really? You can read my mind hack?

He's calling for a change, something that needs to be done in our government. He has some good ideas, but you're so blind to your views you can't open your eyes and see it.

yeah sure he is. If he was really calling for change, He would be calling out the Obama and the Democrats for playing politics with this dept.

 

[ClosedCaption]

This guy sounds confused. I wish I knew what state he's from so i could send him an application so he can change his voter registration.

I wonder if he's confused about his gender too.

Great so not only is he not a republican but he's also probably a fag too.

This is an awesome show of diverse opinions and tolerance. Dems probably like the letter because it mirrors what they think sure. That doesn't mean that the author isn't a republican at all. See: Blue Dog Dems...as much as they disagree with dems no one questions thier "real" affiliation or sexuality

 

[Kiki Cannoli]

I appreciate the letter, don't care which 'party' wrote it. The USA governement is paralyzed by its own partisan pride. Its a shame.

 

[Zander]

Here is a brief bio of the man who wrote the letter. I guess if you don't agree with him, he's not a Republican, is that correct?

Michael Stafford is a 2003 graduate of Duke University School of Law, a former Republican Party officer from Delaware, and the founder of the Coffee Party 2.0 pilot project, Republicans for Responsible Reform. His writing has been featured on national and local blogs such as FrumForum, The Cagle Post, and TommyWonk. He is the author of An Upward Calling: Politics for the Common Good published by AVT Books.

I'd like to see who he wants to run on the GOP Platform in 2012.

He might be a Republican, but he's no conservative.

 

[random3434]

I appreciate the letter, don't care which 'party' wrote it. The USA governement is paralyzed by its own partisan pride. Its a shame.

Exactly!

 

[Avatar4321]

Conservatives love only the rich. And now..they completely own the Republican party.

So yeah.

Which of course, is why we advocate real charity towards the poor instead of this government robbery.

I think the poor would like to know where to find such charities. Seriously.

They are all over. In the heart of anyone who gives. In the Church that lifts. In the private group that strengthens the feeble.

If they have problems finding it, it's only because the people have neglected their responsibility and outsourced it to someone else.

 

[MaggieMae]

Anyone who believes that letter was from a "conservative" is a moron.

"Conservative" like "liberal" are characterizations unfortunately lumping all into either/or, when in fact the majority of thinking people who call themselves "conservatives" don't want to break the back of the government's ability to provide an umbrella for the less fortunate. For one thing, THINKING conservatives know that to do so would eventually cost even more money, especially for the states. Not saying you, personally, don't THINK, but just THINK about the all-inclusive defining of the two parties today. It's so simplistic and idiotic that I do wonder what has happened to logic, compassion, and good old rational analysis before going off half cocked.

Far left liberals are at the opposite end of the spectrum. They don't want any reductions in government entitlement programs and other domestic umbrella programs, and haven't thought through the enormous additional cost that will be incurred as the baby boomers begin to retire, Mideast war veterans returning home to find jobs that aren't even there for folks who have had less, and in some cases no income coming in to speak of. OF COURSE those programs must be scaled back, but they can't be eliminated to the point those same people who rely on them will just look elsewhere in order to survive (more families living in government-funded shelters, more people looking for heating assistance, more people looking for food stamps. Will normally law-abiding citizens turn to crime?). Nor can more money be added to those programs in order to accommodate an ever-increasing out-of-work job force. THINKING liberals are proactive and focus on long-term solutions rather than REacting to short-term ones.

 

[MaggieMae]

Dear Speaker Boehner,

As a Republican, I have followed your handling of the debt ceiling negotiations, and the future of the federal budget, with mounting concern. You appear to be engaged in a game of partisan brinksmanship with our nation’s financial future. Now is not the time for scoring political points or playing to the fantasies of the anti-government libertarian zealots within our Party.

Your handling of the debt ceiling negotiations, and the prior budget proposals advanced in Representative Paul Ryan’s “Path to Prosperity,” makes it clear that the GOP is more concerned with protecting the interests of America’s most wealthy citizens, even to the detriment of the rest of us, and to the common good. For example, it is farcical to frame the debt and the deficit as merely problems of spending — they are, in fact, issues created by both expenditures and revenues. Nor is taking an axe to the federal government an acceptable solution — traditionally, we conservatives have been in favor of a limited government, not an eviscerated one. In the end, we simply have to pay for the services we expect government to provide. As such, a discussion of raising additional revenue — taxes — must be a part of any long-term solution.

Read more of his letter here:

Dear Speaker Boehner: An open letter on the debt and the budget | Coffee Party

I wonder if Boehner would like to be more pragmatic about it but can't cuz he's trying to keep his party together.

He's now having a taste of Obama's dilemma in trying to keep his base together and compromise at the same time. I'm sure hoping in the end Boehner tells his ankle-biting nemesis, Eric Cantor, to back off. He ain't the speaker.

 

[MaggieMae]

You mean to tell us you’re so used to the GOP working for the rich against the poor and middle class that it doesn't even faze you any more?

That is a sad statement indeed Willow...

I'm convinced that people on message boards who post agreement with the extremist right wing ideologies of today never had to worry about where their next rent or mortgage payment was going to come from; never were forced to apply for food stamps to feed their families; never had an astronomical medical bill that they lost sleep over how to pay for it; and of course, never been unemployed for REAL lack of work for long periods of time to the point it affects them financially, physically, and mentally. Not yet, anyway.

I'm starting to think that people on message boards who call people who disagree with them "extremist" are unemployed insomniac food stamp collecting debtors who are mentally affected.

But I wouldn't sweat the Coffee Party. That half a dozen member voting block per State could not get a dog catcher elected.

I think people who are capable of working, when there's work, and instead just game the systems are a very small percentage. Unfortunately, we only hear about those.

As for "voting blocs," all the polling is what really tells the true story. A healthy one-third want to see tax CUTS and SPENDING reduction on the table, so there goes the Tea Party stance of no new taxes/cut domestic spending. (Wait 'till August when some of them are going to have to explain to their supporters exactly where and how much they plan to "cut," and I suspect we'll see some unexpected blowback.)

 

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the righties in this thread are as partisan as they come

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