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I seem to recall reading that even the CIA was uncertain about Iran funding terrorists. And that the weapons may have been made in Iran but could have easily come from Russia. We don't know the facts, Robert, so don't pretend we do.No maybe, it's fact. Just like how so many of the weapons we've been finding on the dead terrorists in Iraq are made in Iran. Along with the roadside bombs.
Just like how the U.S gave weapons to Osama Bin Laden and crew to go and kill the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 80's.
Just like how the Soviets gave the NVA and VC weapons to kill the U.S. in Vietnam.
Just like how the Soviets gave North Korea weapons to kill the U.S. in North Korea.
Just like how the U.S. gave weapons to France to go and continue the fight during WWII.
I could go on, other countries have been funding groups or other countries in wars and fights for centuries now.
It's called indirect warfare.
I seem to recall reading that even the CIA was uncertain about Iran funding terrorists. And that the weapons may have been made in Iran but could have easily come from Russia. We don't know the facts, Robert, so don't pretend we do.
Yes it makes sense to me. But that doesn't mean Iran is supplying terrorists with weapons...it would mean Russia is doing it.Really? The same CIA that proclaimed over and over that Saddam had WMDs? Their word today isn't worth that much to me.
We do know the facts. For the weapons to come from Russia they would of had to been built in Iran, sold to Russia, and then Russia would of had to have them sent to the terrorists in the Middle East.
That make much sense to you?
Yes it makes sense to me. But that doesn't mean Iran is supplying terrorists with weapons...it would mean Russia is doing it.
Okay, Robert, let me see your proof.That's your screwed up logic.
Iran is supplying terrorists in Iraq and I believe even Afghanistan with weapons.
Russia has more nukes then even the U.S. now by the way.
If I can add to that, terrorism is an act of violence against an INTENDED CIVILIAN TARGET for the purpose of affecting political conditions.
Okay, Robert, let me see your proof.
The Allies won the war and as such earned the right to do as they pleased. If it was the right choice or not hardly matters.
Of course it matters. It matters because of the terrible situation it created in the Middle East.
If we win in Iraq, (whatever winning in Iraq means) will you say it doesn't matter why Bush got us involved in that war?
Exactly.
David Petraeus already said there is no "victory" in Iraq. It's not a war that you can plant a flag somewhere and say you won.
It's a victory when a democratic government exists that can protect it's own nation and people and keep civil order. They are pretty much getting there, finally. Focus is shifting now to Afghanistan, and more specifically, Northwest Pakistan.
...notice you'd been any nicer thru this thread.I haven't noticed how 'nice' she is. I'll have to take your word for it. She hasn't taken my olive branch.
We all know that won't happen in Iraq though.
The second we leave, the Civil War that has been waiting to be fully unleashed will begin.
I always said the focus should of been on Afghanistan.
No, we don't all know that, at all. We will be there, in force through 2012, at least, that's three more years. Iraqis have made great strides in the past year as a result of the Surge to finally get their house in order. In three more years they should be in passable shape.
And we will remain indefinitely, in some level in Iraq, mostly and Striker Airbase in the Kurdish region as that gives us a massive Airbase in fighter escort range of every valuable target in South Central Asia, including targets like Georgia and Tehran.
It's a victory when a democratic government exists that can protect it's own nation and people and keep civil order. They are pretty much getting there, finally. Focus is shifting now to Afghanistan, and more specifically, Northwest Pakistan.
We will not be there for more then three years.
Here's why:
All US forces will leave by 2011, Baghdad cabinet agrees | World news | The Guardian
I believe the US military will be in Iraq in some capacity or another until the oil there runs out.
The withdrawl is for GROUND COMBAT Units, only. It does not apply to the Air Forces at all. We will have upwards 10,000 Air Combat forces in Iraq in perpetuity.
That Iran is underwriting attacks on Israel.For which part? All of it? Or the fact that Russia has more nukes then anyone?
