Americans Will Suffer Under New Obamacare Mandates

[RDD_1210]

Skynet and RDD_1210, two of the great debaters. LMAO

They're kind of "masterdebaters, " huh?

You two stupid MF'ers never make a point.

They accentuate a point though, that being;

The lower the IQ, the further to the left....

just like the right.... thanks for adding nothing of substance to the conversation.

He's a fun one. He leaves threads entirely when he realizes he's dead wrong.

 

[Skynet]

They're kind of "masterdebaters, " huh?



They accentuate a point though, that being;

The lower the IQ, the further to the left....

just like the right.... thanks for adding nothing of substance to the conversation.

He's a fun one. He leaves threads entirely when he realizes he's dead wrong.

im surprised i didnt get neg rep'd for embarrassing him

and i guess they finally figured out that by paying their insurance, they help pay for others health care

 

[daveman]

 

[American Cowboy]

1 - you missed the point where I said you already pay for other people's health care. try keeping up.

2 - if none of those things are in the constitution why is the government paying for an support them? by your argument the government shouldnt be doing anything that is not specifically listed in the constitution. or you do not even understand your own argument

3 - actually if you would have read the HC law, you would understand that if you do not purchase HC, you will lose a "Tax Credit." similar to a child or education credit, you would simply not qualify for that credit.

4 - tell me how not having a house is equal to you not receiving cancer treatment? hmmmmm i dont have a house i live, i have cancer and it goes untreated i die. not exactly the same. and when again is the government giving you free health care support by taxes? oh thats right they arent! that was the single payer plan that never became a law.

5 - since the majority of the health care law doesnt even take affect until 2014 insurance companies can pretty much do what they want until then. did you once again forget to read that part of the law?

6 - what part of the mandate suggest that no one has to pay? you keep flip flopping saying your against the mandate because it forces people to pay, then change your mind and say youre against the law because it give away free health care to those who dont pay?

It really seems you are too stupid to have this conversation. You are not answering my questions.

1. We pay for some people's emergency room treatement, not everyone's health insurance. Now, let me ask you one last time, try and focus: Why should I have to pay for someone else’s healthcare? See#7 below

2. Again try and focus. I am not being required to do any of those things that you have listed. Now I am being forced to do something or face a penalty. Again, Where is it in the Constitution that I must pay for someone elses health insurance?

3. Wrong!!! I must or I will be pentalized. God you are a stupid MFer.

4. WTF? Who has cancer? Everyone needs a house. Not everyone need cancer treatement.

5. Once again, What do I get in return for paying for someone elses healthcare?

6. If I get nothing in return, then how are not all created equal?

7. 45% of Americans pay zero in federal income tax. Those people will not be paying for health insurance.

if you refuse to understand that basic concept that you already pay for other people health care through your insurance, youre an idiot and no one can help you.

in response for #7, since health insurance premiums are not being paid through federal taxes (that was the single payer plan that didnt pass), people are being mandated to purchase health insurance. your argument is invalid because again youve shown you dont understand how the system works.

show me the exact text of the exact document that states tax payer dollars will provide free health care for all american citizens. ill be waiting.....

OMG you are a fvcking moron.

In the healthcare law, there are 150 new government agencies created to regulate Obamacare. Who do you think is going to pay for those new agencies genius?

if you refuse to understand that basic concept that you already pay for other people health care through your insurance, youre an idiot and no one can help you.

I have an agreed upon rate with the insurance company. They pay my bills when I get sick. Where they get the money is from others paying in. That does not mean, I am paying for other people's insurance. My rate is for me and my family. How the insurance company affords to pay my bill is what you are talking about and that is different. That is how it is suppose to work.

Nice try stupid!!!

Now explain how those 150 new agencies are not coming out of my taxes.

 

[American Cowboy]

They're kind of "masterdebaters, " huh?



They accentuate a point though, that being;

The lower the IQ, the further to the left....

just like the right.... thanks for adding nothing of substance to the conversation.

He's a fun one. He leaves threads entirely when he realizes he's dead wrong.

What have you added to this debate at all you fvcking moron?

Perhaps you would like to take a stab at my question...

Who will be paying for the 150 new agencies created by the new Obamacare law?

If you two brillant thinkers put your heads together you could not tie your shoes.

The answer...The tax payers. The 55% that do pay taxes that is.

 

[RDD_1210]

just like the right.... thanks for adding nothing of substance to the conversation.

He's a fun one. He leaves threads entirely when he realizes he's dead wrong.

What have you added to this debate at all you fvcking moron?

Perhaps you would like to take a stab at my question...

Who will be paying for the 150 new agencies created by the new Obamacare law?

If you two brillant thinkers put your heads together you could not tie your shoes.

The answer...The tax payers. The 55% that do pay taxes that is.

You've ignored my single question to you multiple times now.

 

[Skynet]

It really seems you are too stupid to have this conversation. You are not answering my questions.

1. We pay for some people's emergency room treatement, not everyone's health insurance. Now, let me ask you one last time, try and focus: Why should I have to pay for someone else’s healthcare? See#7 below

2. Again try and focus. I am not being required to do any of those things that you have listed. Now I am being forced to do something or face a penalty. Again, Where is it in the Constitution that I must pay for someone elses health insurance?

3. Wrong!!! I must or I will be pentalized. God you are a stupid MFer.

4. WTF? Who has cancer? Everyone needs a house. Not everyone need cancer treatement.

5. Once again, What do I get in return for paying for someone elses healthcare?

6. If I get nothing in return, then how are not all created equal?

7. 45% of Americans pay zero in federal income tax. Those people will not be paying for health insurance.

if you refuse to understand that basic concept that you already pay for other people health care through your insurance, youre an idiot and no one can help you.

in response for #7, since health insurance premiums are not being paid through federal taxes (that was the single payer plan that didnt pass), people are being mandated to purchase health insurance. your argument is invalid because again youve shown you dont understand how the system works.

show me the exact text of the exact document that states tax payer dollars will provide free health care for all american citizens. ill be waiting.....

OMG you are a fvcking moron.

In the healthcare law, there are 150 new government agencies created to regulate Obamacare. Who do you think is going to pay for those new agencies genius?

if you refuse to understand that basic concept that you already pay for other people health care through your insurance, youre an idiot and no one can help you.

I have an agreed upon rate with the insurance company. They pay my bills, when I get sick. Where they get the money is from others paying in. That does not mean, I am paying for others people's insurance. My rate is for me and my family. How the insurance company affords to pay my bill is what you are talking about and that is different.

Nice try stupid!!!

Now explain how those 150 new agencies are not coming out of my taxes.

i didnt know regulatory agencies provided free health care services.....

and where does it state in the health care law that 150 new agencies are created? you can make up all the numbers you want, but it still doesnt make them true.



let me break down insurance into 3rd grader terms for you.

lets say you pay $150 per months for health insurance. that amounts to $1,800 annually. we'll even say youve been paying for 10 years without receiving any care. Then the total comes to $18,000 in premiums. now lets say you get sick and need some services. if those services cost more then the $18,000 plus what ever your co pay or deductible is, the insurance company doesn't send you a bill. they cover the rest of your services out of the premiums paid by other people. hence spreading the cost and the risk.. how is that not using other peoples money to pay for your health care costs? so what do you call this then? the bill still has to be paid, by some form of revenue, and what is that revenue?????? insurance premiums!!!!! holy be-jesus that means you do help pay for others health care services. damn!!! theres goes your argument.

although im sure everything i said just went over your head.

 

[American Cowboy]

show me the exact text of the exact document that states tax payer dollars will provide free health care for all american citizens. ill be waiting.....

WTF? You think it will be run by volunteers? It is 150 brand new agencies to over see this MFer including 16,000 new IRS employees

Skynet and RDD_1210 are the two dumbest MFers on this board. LMAO

 

[American Cowboy]

You dumb fvcker better watch this. LOL

YouTube - ‪TheJohnBirchSociety's Channel‬‏

 

[Skynet]

show me the exact text of the exact document that states tax payer dollars will provide free health care for all american citizens. ill be waiting.....

WTF? You think it will be run by volunteers? It is 150 brand new agencies to over see this MFer including 16,000 new IRS employees

Skynet and RDD_1210 are the two dumbest MFers on this board. LMAO

still waiting for you show me where is states that 150 new agencies are being created....

but its ok just keep ignoring everything that we say and trying to go around the argument.

 

[RDD_1210]

if you refuse to understand that basic concept that you already pay for other people health care through your insurance, youre an idiot and no one can help you.

in response for #7, since health insurance premiums are not being paid through federal taxes (that was the single payer plan that didnt pass), people are being mandated to purchase health insurance. your argument is invalid because again youve shown you dont understand how the system works.

show me the exact text of the exact document that states tax payer dollars will provide free health care for all american citizens. ill be waiting.....

OMG you are a fvcking moron.

In the healthcare law, there are 150 new government agencies created to regulate Obamacare. Who do you think is going to pay for those new agencies genius?

if you refuse to understand that basic concept that you already pay for other people health care through your insurance, youre an idiot and no one can help you.

I have an agreed upon rate with the insurance company. They pay my bills, when I get sick. Where they get the money is from others paying in. That does not mean, I am paying for others people's insurance. My rate is for me and my family. How the insurance company affords to pay my bill is what you are talking about and that is different.

Nice try stupid!!!

Now explain how those 150 new agencies are not coming out of my taxes.

i didnt know regulatory agencies provided free health care services.....

and where does it state in the health care law that 150 new agencies are created? you can make up all the numbers you want, but it still doesnt make them true.



let me break down insurance into 3rd grader terms for you.

lets say you pay $150 per months for health insurance. that amounts to $1,800 annually. we'll even say youve been paying for 10 years without receiving any care. Then the total comes to $18,000 in premiums. now lets say you get sick and need some services. if those services cost more then the $18,000 plus what ever your co pay or deductible is, the insurance company doesn't send you a bill. they cover the rest of your services out of the premiums paid by other people. hence spreading the cost and the risk.. how is that not using other peoples money to pay for your health care costs? so what do you call this then? the bill still has to be paid, by some form of revenue, and what is that revenue?????? insurance premiums!!!!! holy be-jesus that means you do help pay for others health care services. damn!!! theres goes your argument.

although im sure everything i said just went over your head.

Good info. And to add to that....

when someone uninsured shows up at the hospital ER, they are not denied treatment. The hospital will at the very least stabilize that person. Now, who do you think pays for that treatment? Does the hospital eat the cost out of the goodness of their heart? No, they increase the costs for their services which gets passed on to everyone else who do pay. Those costs are passed to us which are paid out by our insurance companies who in turn raise their rates to compensate for the hospitals increased prices. And Voila, we are already paying for the uninsured.

 

[Skynet]

You dumb fvcker better watch this. LOL

YouTube - ‪TheJohnBirchSociety's Channel‬‏

and you use the John Birch Society Channel as a "reputable source "



we now know the exact level of your intelligence. I can make a witty little youtube video as well.

 

[American Cowboy]

He's a fun one. He leaves threads entirely when he realizes he's dead wrong.

What have you added to this debate at all you fvcking moron?

Perhaps you would like to take a stab at my question...

Who will be paying for the 150 new agencies created by the new Obamacare law?

If you two brillant thinkers put your heads together you could not tie your shoes.

The answer...The tax payers. The 55% that do pay taxes that is.

You've ignored my single question to you multiple times now.

What stupid fvcking question do you want to ask?

Oh and produce one thread I have left because I was wrong. You are a sorry ass lying MFer that is dumber than a stump.

 

[Skynet]

What have you added to this debate at all you fvcking moron?

Perhaps you would like to take a stab at my question...

Who will be paying for the 150 new agencies created by the new Obamacare law?

If you two brillant thinkers put your heads together you could not tie your shoes.

The answer...The tax payers. The 55% that do pay taxes that is.

You've ignored my single question to you multiple times now.

What stupid fvcking question do you want to ask?

Oh and produce one thread I have left because I was wrong. You are a sorry ass lying MFer that is dumber than a stump.

just keep deflecting, you on the right are good at that.

when you develop some intelligence and can contribute to a conversation, you can come and play with the adults.

 

[RDD_1210]

What have you added to this debate at all you fvcking moron?

Perhaps you would like to take a stab at my question...

Who will be paying for the 150 new agencies created by the new Obamacare law?

If you two brillant thinkers put your heads together you could not tie your shoes.

The answer...The tax payers. The 55% that do pay taxes that is.

You've ignored my single question to you multiple times now.

What stupid fvcking question do you want to ask?

Oh and produce one thread I have left because I was wrong. You are a sorry ass lying MFer that is dumber than a stump.

We weren't talking about you. Get over yourself. Maybe if you weren't so busy be a raging asshole you would have seen my question that I asked or that Skynet was talking to someone else and not you.

 

[peach174]

show me the exact text of the exact document that states tax payer dollars will provide free health care for all american citizens. ill be waiting.....

WTF? You think it will be run by volunteers? It is 150 brand new agencies to over see this MFer including 16,000 new IRS employees

Skynet and RDD_1210 are the two dumbest MFers on this board. LMAO

still waiting for you show me where is states that 150 new agencies are being created....

but its ok just keep ignoring everything that we say and trying to go around the argument.

It's 159 new agencies;
1. Grant program for consumer assistance offices (Section 1002, p. 37)
2. Grant program for states to monitor premium increases (Section 1003, p. 42)
3. Committee to review administrative simplification standards (Section 1104, p. 71)
4. Demonstration program for state wellness programs (Section 1201, p. 93)
5. Grant program to establish state Exchanges (Section 1311(a), p. 130)
6. State American Health Benefit Exchanges (Section 1311(b), p. 131)
7. Exchange grants to establish consumer navigator programs (Section 1311(i), p. 150)
8. Grant program for state cooperatives (Section 1322, p. 169)
9. Advisory board for state cooperatives (Section 1322(b)(3), p. 173)
10. Private purchasing council for state cooperatives (Section 1322(d), p. 177)
11. State basic health plan programs (Section 1331, p. 201)
12. State-based reinsurance program (Section 1341, p. 226)
13. Program of risk corridors for individual and small group markets (Section 1342, p. 233)
14. Program to determine eligibility for Exchange participation (Section 1411, p. 267)
15. Program for advance determination of tax credit eligibility (Section 1412, p. 288)
16. Grant program to implement health IT enrollment standards (Section 1561, p. 370)
17. Federal Coordinated Health Care Office for dual eligible beneficiaries (Section 2602, p. 512)
18. Medicaid quality measurement program (Section 2701, p. 518)
19. Medicaid health home program for people with chronic conditions, and grants for planning same
(Section 2703, p. 524)
20. Medicaid demonstration project to evaluate bundled payments (Section 2704, p. 532)
21. Medicaid demonstration project for global payment system (Section 2705, p. 536)
22. Medicaid demonstration project for accountable care organizations (Section 2706, p. 538)
23. Medicaid demonstration project for emergency psychiatric care (Section 2707, p. 540)
24. Grant program for delivery of services to individuals with postpartum depression
(Section 2952(b), p. 591)
25. State allotments for grants to promote personal responsibility education programs (Section 2953, p. 596)
26. Medicare value-based purchasing program (Section 3001(a), p. 613)
27. Medicare value-based purchasing demonstration program for critical access hospitals
(Section 3001(b), p. 637)
28. Medicare value-based purchasing program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 3006(a), p. 666)
29. Medicare value-based purchasing program for home health agencies (Section 3006(b), p. 668)
30. Interagency Working Group on Health Care Quality (Section 3012, p. 688)
31. Grant program to develop health care quality measures (Section 3013, p. 693)
32. Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation (Section 3021, p. 712)
33. Medicare shared savings program (Section 3022, p. 728)
34. Medicare pilot program on payment bundling (Section 3023, p. 739)
35. Independence at home medical practice demonstration program (Section 3024, p. 752)
36. Program for use of patient safety organizations to reduce hospital readmission rates
(Section 3025(b), p. 775)
37. Community-based care transitions program (Section 3026, p. 776)
38. Demonstration project for payment of complex diagnostic laboratory tests (Section 3113, p. 800)
39. Medicare hospice concurrent care demonstration project (Section 3140, p. 850)
40. Independent Payment Advisory Board (Section 3403, p. 982)
41. Consumer Advisory Council for Independent Payment Advisory Board (Section 3403, p. 1027)
42. Grant program for technical assistance to providers implementing health quality practices
(Section 3501, p. 1043)
43. Grant program to establish interdisciplinary health teams (Section 3502, p. 1048)
44. Grant program to implement medication therapy management (Section 3503, p. 1055)
45. Grant program to support emergency care pilot programs (Section 3504, p. 1061)
46. Grant program to promote universal access to trauma services (Section 3505(b), p. 1081)
47. Grant program to develop and promote shared decision-making aids (Section 3506, p. 1088)
48. Grant program to support implementation of shared decision-making (Section 3506, p. 1091)
49. Grant program to integrate quality improvement in clinical education (Section 3508, p. 1095)
50. Health and Human Services Coordinating Committee on Women’s Health (Section 3509(a), p. 1098)
51. Centers for Disease Control Office of Women’s Health (Section 3509(b), p. 1102)
52. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Office of Women’s Health (Section 3509(e), p. 1105)
53. Health Resources and Services Administration Office of Women’s Health (Section 3509(f), p. 1106)
54. Food and Drug Administration Office of Women’s Health (Section 3509(g), p. 1109)
55. National Prevention, Health Promotion, and Public Health Council (Section 4001, p. 1114)
56. Advisory Group on Prevention, Health Promotion, and Integrative and Public Health
(Section 4001(f), p. 1117)
57. Prevention and Public Health Fund (Section 4002, p. 1121)
58. Community Preventive Services Task Force (Section 4003(b), p. 1126)
59. Grant program to support school-based health centers (Section 4101, p. 1135)
60. Grant program to promote research-based dental caries disease management (Section 4102, p. 1147)
61. Grant program for States to prevent chronic disease in Medicaid beneficiaries (Section 4108, p. 1174)
62. Community transformation grants (Section 4201, p. 1182)
63. Grant program to provide public health interventions (Section 4202, p. 1188)
64. Demonstration program of grants to improve child immunization rates (Section 4204(b), p. 1200)
65. Pilot program for risk-factor assessments provided through community health centers
(Section 4206, p. 1215)
66. Grant program to increase epidemiology and laboratory capacity (Section 4304, p. 1233)
67. Interagency Pain Research Coordinating Committee (Section 4305, p. 1238)
68. National Health Care Workforce Commission (Section 5101, p. 1256)
69. Grant program to plan health care workforce development activities (Section 5102(c), p. 1275)
70. Grant program to implement health care workforce development activities (Section 5102(d), p. 1279)
71. Pediatric specialty loan repayment program (Section 5203, p. 1295)
72. Public Health Workforce Loan Repayment Program (Section 5204, p. 1300)
73. Allied Health Loan Forgiveness Program (Section 5205, p. 1305)
74. Grant program to provide mid-career training for health professionals (Section 5206, p. 1307)
75. Grant program to fund nurse-managed health clinics (Section 5208, p. 1310)
76. Grant program to support primary care training programs (Section 5301, p. 1315)
77. Grant program to fund training for direct care workers (Section 5302, p. 1322)
78. Grant program to develop dental training programs (Section 5303, p. 1325)
79. Demonstration program to increase access to dental health care in underserved communities
(Section 5304, p. 1331)
80. Grant program to promote geriatric education centers (Section 5305, p. 1334)
81. Grant program to promote health professionals entering geriatrics (Section 5305, p. 1339)
82. Grant program to promote training in mental and behavioral health (Section 5306, p. 1344)
83. Grant program to promote nurse retention programs (Section 5309, p. 1354)
84. Student loan forgiveness for nursing school faculty (Section 5311(b), p. 1360)
85. Grant program to promote positive health behaviors and outcomes (Section 5313, p. 1364)
86. Public Health Sciences Track for medical students (Section 5315, p. 1372)
87. Primary Care Extension Program to educate providers (Section 5405, p. 1404)
88. Grant program for demonstration projects to address health workforce shortage needs
(Section 5507, p. 1442)
89. Grant program for demonstration projects to develop training programs for home health aides
(Section 5507, p. 1447)
90. Grant program to establish new primary care residency programs (Section 5508(a), p. 1458)
91. Program of payments to teaching health centers that sponsor medical residency training
(Section 5508(c), p. 1462)
92. Graduate nurse education demonstration program (Section 5509, p. 1472)
93. Grant program to establish demonstration projects for community-based mental health settings
(Section 5604, p. 1486)
94. Commission on Key National Indicators (Section 5605, p. 1489)
95. Quality assurance and performance improvement program for skilled nursing facilities
(Section 6102, p. 1554)
96. Special focus facility program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 6103(a)(3), p. 1561)
97. Special focus facility program for nursing facilities (Section 6103(b)(3), p. 1568)
98. National independent monitor pilot program for skilled nursing facilities and nursing facilities
(Section 6112, p. 1589)
99. Demonstration projects for nursing facilities involved in the culture change movement
(Section 6114, p. 1597)
100. Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute (Section 6301, p. 1619)
101. Standing methodology committee for Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute
(Section 6301, p. 1629)
102. Board of Governors for Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute (Section 6301, p. 1638)
103. Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Trust Fund (Section 6301(e), p. 1656)
104. Elder Justice Coordinating Council (Section 6703, p. 1773)
105. Advisory Board on Elder Abuse, Neglect, and Exploitation (Section 6703, p. 1776)
106. Grant program to create elder abuse forensic centers (Section 6703, p. 1783)
107. Grant program to promote continuing education for long-term care staffers (Section 6703, p. 1787)
108. Grant program to improve management practices and training (Section 6703, p. 1788)
109. Grant program to subsidize costs of electronic health records (Section 6703, p. 1791)
110. Grant program to promote adult protective services (Section 6703, p. 1796)
111. Grant program to conduct elder abuse detection and prevention (Section 6703, p. 1798)
112. Grant program to support long-term care ombudsmen (Section 6703, p. 1800)
113. National Training Institute for long-term care surveyors (Section 6703, p. 1806)
114. Grant program to fund State surveys of long-term care residences (Section 6703, p. 1809)
115. CLASS Independence Fund (Section 8002, p. 1926)
116. CLASS Independence Fund Board of Trustees (Section 8002, p. 1927)
117. CLASS Independence Advisory Council (Section 8002, p. 1931)
118. Personal Care Attendants Workforce Advisory Panel (Section 8002(c), p. 1938)
119. Multi-state health plans offered by Office of Personnel Management (Section 10104(p), p. 2086)
120. Advisory board for multi-state health plans (Section 10104(p), p. 2094)
121. Pregnancy Assistance Fund (Section 10212, p. 2164)
122. Value-based purchasing program for ambulatory surgical centers (Section 10301, p. 2176)
123. Demonstration project for payment adjustments to home health services (Section 10315, p. 2200)
124. Pilot program for care of individuals in environmental emergency declaration areas
(Section 10323, p. 2223)
125. Grant program to screen at-risk individuals for environmental health conditions
(Section 10323(b), p. 2231)
126. Pilot programs to implement value-based purchasing (Section 10326, p. 2242)
127. Grant program to support community-based collaborative care networks (Section 10333, p. 2265)
128. Centers for Disease Control Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
129. Health Resources and Services Administration Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
130. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration Office of Minority Health
(Section 10334, p. 2272)
131. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
132. Food and Drug Administration Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
133. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
134. Grant program to promote small business wellness programs (Section 10408, p. 2285)
135. Cures Acceleration Network (Section 10409, p. 2289)
136. Cures Acceleration Network Review Board (Section 10409, p. 2291)
137. Grant program for Cures Acceleration Network (Section 10409, p. 2297)
138. Grant program to promote centers of excellence for depression (Section 10410, p. 2304)
139. Advisory committee for young women’s breast health awareness education campaign
(Section 10413, p. 2322)
140. Grant program to provide assistance to provide information to young women with breast cancer (Section 10413, p. 2326)
141. Interagency Access to Health Care in Alaska Task Force (Section 10501, p. 2329)
142. Grant program to train nurse practitioners as primary care providers (Section 10501(e), p. 2332)
143. Grant program for community-based diabetes prevention (Section 10501(g), p. 2337)
144. Grant program for providers who treat a high percentage of medically underserved populations
(Section 10501(k), p. 2343)
145. Grant program to recruit students to practice in underserved communities (Section 10501(l), p. 2344)
146. Community Health Center Fund (Section 10503, p. 2355)
147. Demonstration project to provide access to health care for the uninsured at reduced fees
(Section 10504, p. 2357)
148. Demonstration program to explore alternatives to tort litigation (Section 10607, p. 2369)
149. Indian Health demonstration program for chronic shortages of health professionals
(S. 1790, Section 112, p. 24)*
150. Office of Indian Men’s Health (S. 1790, Section 136, p. 71)*
151. Indian Country modular component facilities demonstration program (S. 1790, Section 146, p. 108)*
152. Indian mobile health stations demonstration program (S. 1790, Section 147, p. 111)*
153. Office of Direct Service Tribes (S. 1790, Section 172, p. 151)*
154. Indian Health Service mental health technician training program (S. 1790, Section 181, p. 173)*
155. Indian Health Service program for treatment of child sexual abuse victims
(S. 1790, Section 181, p. 192)*
156. Indian Health Service program for treatment of domestic violence and sexual abuse
(S. 1790, Section 181, p. 194)*
157. Indian youth telemental health demonstration project (S. 1790, Section 181, p. 204)*
158. Indian youth life skills demonstration project (S. 1790, Section 181, p. 220)*
159. Indian Health Service Director of HIV/AIDS Prevention and Treatment (S. 1790, Section 199B, p. 258)*

*Section 10221, page 2173 of H.R. 3590 deems that S. 1790 shall be deemed as passed with certain amendments

 

[Skynet]

WTF? You think it will be run by volunteers? It is 150 brand new agencies to over see this MFer including 16,000 new IRS employees

Skynet and RDD_1210 are the two dumbest MFers on this board. LMAO

still waiting for you show me where is states that 150 new agencies are being created....

but its ok just keep ignoring everything that we say and trying to go around the argument.

It's 159 new agencies;
1. Grant program for consumer assistance offices (Section 1002, p. 37)
2. Grant program for states to monitor premium increases (Section 1003, p. 42)
3. Committee to review administrative simplification standards (Section 1104, p. 71)
4. Demonstration program for state wellness programs (Section 1201, p. 93)
5. Grant program to establish state Exchanges (Section 1311(a), p. 130)
6. State American Health Benefit Exchanges (Section 1311(b), p. 131)
7. Exchange grants to establish consumer navigator programs (Section 1311(i), p. 150)
8. Grant program for state cooperatives (Section 1322, p. 169)
9. Advisory board for state cooperatives (Section 1322(b)(3), p. 173)
10. Private purchasing council for state cooperatives (Section 1322(d), p. 177)
11. State basic health plan programs (Section 1331, p. 201)
12. State-based reinsurance program (Section 1341, p. 226)
13. Program of risk corridors for individual and small group markets (Section 1342, p. 233)
14. Program to determine eligibility for Exchange participation (Section 1411, p. 267)
15. Program for advance determination of tax credit eligibility (Section 1412, p. 288)
16. Grant program to implement health IT enrollment standards (Section 1561, p. 370)
17. Federal Coordinated Health Care Office for dual eligible beneficiaries (Section 2602, p. 512)
18. Medicaid quality measurement program (Section 2701, p. 518)
19. Medicaid health home program for people with chronic conditions, and grants for planning same
(Section 2703, p. 524)
20. Medicaid demonstration project to evaluate bundled payments (Section 2704, p. 532)
21. Medicaid demonstration project for global payment system (Section 2705, p. 536)
22. Medicaid demonstration project for accountable care organizations (Section 2706, p. 538)
23. Medicaid demonstration project for emergency psychiatric care (Section 2707, p. 540)
24. Grant program for delivery of services to individuals with postpartum depression
(Section 2952(b), p. 591)
25. State allotments for grants to promote personal responsibility education programs (Section 2953, p. 596)
26. Medicare value-based purchasing program (Section 3001(a), p. 613)
27. Medicare value-based purchasing demonstration program for critical access hospitals
(Section 3001(b), p. 637)
28. Medicare value-based purchasing program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 3006(a), p. 666)
29. Medicare value-based purchasing program for home health agencies (Section 3006(b), p. 668)
30. Interagency Working Group on Health Care Quality (Section 3012, p. 688)
31. Grant program to develop health care quality measures (Section 3013, p. 693)
32. Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation (Section 3021, p. 712)
33. Medicare shared savings program (Section 3022, p. 728)
34. Medicare pilot program on payment bundling (Section 3023, p. 739)
35. Independence at home medical practice demonstration program (Section 3024, p. 752)
36. Program for use of patient safety organizations to reduce hospital readmission rates
(Section 3025(b), p. 775)
37. Community-based care transitions program (Section 3026, p. 776)
38. Demonstration project for payment of complex diagnostic laboratory tests (Section 3113, p. 800)
39. Medicare hospice concurrent care demonstration project (Section 3140, p. 850)
40. Independent Payment Advisory Board (Section 3403, p. 982)
41. Consumer Advisory Council for Independent Payment Advisory Board (Section 3403, p. 1027)
42. Grant program for technical assistance to providers implementing health quality practices
(Section 3501, p. 1043)
43. Grant program to establish interdisciplinary health teams (Section 3502, p. 1048)
44. Grant program to implement medication therapy management (Section 3503, p. 1055)
45. Grant program to support emergency care pilot programs (Section 3504, p. 1061)
46. Grant program to promote universal access to trauma services (Section 3505(b), p. 1081)
47. Grant program to develop and promote shared decision-making aids (Section 3506, p. 1088)
48. Grant program to support implementation of shared decision-making (Section 3506, p. 1091)
49. Grant program to integrate quality improvement in clinical education (Section 3508, p. 1095)
50. Health and Human Services Coordinating Committee on Women’s Health (Section 3509(a), p. 1098)
51. Centers for Disease Control Office of Women’s Health (Section 3509(b), p. 1102)
52. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Office of Women’s Health (Section 3509(e), p. 1105)
53. Health Resources and Services Administration Office of Women’s Health (Section 3509(f), p. 1106)
54. Food and Drug Administration Office of Women’s Health (Section 3509(g), p. 1109)
55. National Prevention, Health Promotion, and Public Health Council (Section 4001, p. 1114)
56. Advisory Group on Prevention, Health Promotion, and Integrative and Public Health
(Section 4001(f), p. 1117)
57. Prevention and Public Health Fund (Section 4002, p. 1121)
58. Community Preventive Services Task Force (Section 4003(b), p. 1126)
59. Grant program to support school-based health centers (Section 4101, p. 1135)
60. Grant program to promote research-based dental caries disease management (Section 4102, p. 1147)
61. Grant program for States to prevent chronic disease in Medicaid beneficiaries (Section 4108, p. 1174)
62. Community transformation grants (Section 4201, p. 1182)
63. Grant program to provide public health interventions (Section 4202, p. 1188)
64. Demonstration program of grants to improve child immunization rates (Section 4204(b), p. 1200)
65. Pilot program for risk-factor assessments provided through community health centers
(Section 4206, p. 1215)
66. Grant program to increase epidemiology and laboratory capacity (Section 4304, p. 1233)
67. Interagency Pain Research Coordinating Committee (Section 4305, p. 1238)
68. National Health Care Workforce Commission (Section 5101, p. 1256)
69. Grant program to plan health care workforce development activities (Section 5102(c), p. 1275)
70. Grant program to implement health care workforce development activities (Section 5102(d), p. 1279)
71. Pediatric specialty loan repayment program (Section 5203, p. 1295)
72. Public Health Workforce Loan Repayment Program (Section 5204, p. 1300)
73. Allied Health Loan Forgiveness Program (Section 5205, p. 1305)
74. Grant program to provide mid-career training for health professionals (Section 5206, p. 1307)
75. Grant program to fund nurse-managed health clinics (Section 5208, p. 1310)
76. Grant program to support primary care training programs (Section 5301, p. 1315)
77. Grant program to fund training for direct care workers (Section 5302, p. 1322)
78. Grant program to develop dental training programs (Section 5303, p. 1325)
79. Demonstration program to increase access to dental health care in underserved communities
(Section 5304, p. 1331)
80. Grant program to promote geriatric education centers (Section 5305, p. 1334)
81. Grant program to promote health professionals entering geriatrics (Section 5305, p. 1339)
82. Grant program to promote training in mental and behavioral health (Section 5306, p. 1344)
83. Grant program to promote nurse retention programs (Section 5309, p. 1354)
84. Student loan forgiveness for nursing school faculty (Section 5311(b), p. 1360)
85. Grant program to promote positive health behaviors and outcomes (Section 5313, p. 1364)
86. Public Health Sciences Track for medical students (Section 5315, p. 1372)
87. Primary Care Extension Program to educate providers (Section 5405, p. 1404)
88. Grant program for demonstration projects to address health workforce shortage needs
(Section 5507, p. 1442)
89. Grant program for demonstration projects to develop training programs for home health aides
(Section 5507, p. 1447)
90. Grant program to establish new primary care residency programs (Section 5508(a), p. 1458)
91. Program of payments to teaching health centers that sponsor medical residency training
(Section 5508(c), p. 1462)
92. Graduate nurse education demonstration program (Section 5509, p. 1472)
93. Grant program to establish demonstration projects for community-based mental health settings
(Section 5604, p. 1486)
94. Commission on Key National Indicators (Section 5605, p. 1489)
95. Quality assurance and performance improvement program for skilled nursing facilities
(Section 6102, p. 1554)
96. Special focus facility program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 6103(a)(3), p. 1561)
97. Special focus facility program for nursing facilities (Section 6103(b)(3), p. 1568)
98. National independent monitor pilot program for skilled nursing facilities and nursing facilities
(Section 6112, p. 1589)
99. Demonstration projects for nursing facilities involved in the culture change movement
(Section 6114, p. 1597)
100. Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute (Section 6301, p. 1619)
101. Standing methodology committee for Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute
(Section 6301, p. 1629)
102. Board of Governors for Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute (Section 6301, p. 1638)
103. Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Trust Fund (Section 6301(e), p. 1656)
104. Elder Justice Coordinating Council (Section 6703, p. 1773)
105. Advisory Board on Elder Abuse, Neglect, and Exploitation (Section 6703, p. 1776)
106. Grant program to create elder abuse forensic centers (Section 6703, p. 1783)
107. Grant program to promote continuing education for long-term care staffers (Section 6703, p. 1787)
108. Grant program to improve management practices and training (Section 6703, p. 1788)
109. Grant program to subsidize costs of electronic health records (Section 6703, p. 1791)
110. Grant program to promote adult protective services (Section 6703, p. 1796)
111. Grant program to conduct elder abuse detection and prevention (Section 6703, p. 1798)
112. Grant program to support long-term care ombudsmen (Section 6703, p. 1800)
113. National Training Institute for long-term care surveyors (Section 6703, p. 1806)
114. Grant program to fund State surveys of long-term care residences (Section 6703, p. 1809)
115. CLASS Independence Fund (Section 8002, p. 1926)
116. CLASS Independence Fund Board of Trustees (Section 8002, p. 1927)
117. CLASS Independence Advisory Council (Section 8002, p. 1931)
118. Personal Care Attendants Workforce Advisory Panel (Section 8002(c), p. 1938)
119. Multi-state health plans offered by Office of Personnel Management (Section 10104(p), p. 2086)
120. Advisory board for multi-state health plans (Section 10104(p), p. 2094)
121. Pregnancy Assistance Fund (Section 10212, p. 2164)
122. Value-based purchasing program for ambulatory surgical centers (Section 10301, p. 2176)
123. Demonstration project for payment adjustments to home health services (Section 10315, p. 2200)
124. Pilot program for care of individuals in environmental emergency declaration areas
(Section 10323, p. 2223)
125. Grant program to screen at-risk individuals for environmental health conditions
(Section 10323(b), p. 2231)
126. Pilot programs to implement value-based purchasing (Section 10326, p. 2242)
127. Grant program to support community-based collaborative care networks (Section 10333, p. 2265)
128. Centers for Disease Control Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
129. Health Resources and Services Administration Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
130. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration Office of Minority Health
(Section 10334, p. 2272)
131. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
132. Food and Drug Administration Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
133. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
134. Grant program to promote small business wellness programs (Section 10408, p. 2285)
135. Cures Acceleration Network (Section 10409, p. 2289)
136. Cures Acceleration Network Review Board (Section 10409, p. 2291)
137. Grant program for Cures Acceleration Network (Section 10409, p. 2297)
138. Grant program to promote centers of excellence for depression (Section 10410, p. 2304)
139. Advisory committee for young women’s breast health awareness education campaign
(Section 10413, p. 2322)
140. Grant program to provide assistance to provide information to young women with breast cancer (Section 10413, p. 2326)
141. Interagency Access to Health Care in Alaska Task Force (Section 10501, p. 2329)
142. Grant program to train nurse practitioners as primary care providers (Section 10501(e), p. 2332)
143. Grant program for community-based diabetes prevention (Section 10501(g), p. 2337)
144. Grant program for providers who treat a high percentage of medically underserved populations
(Section 10501(k), p. 2343)
145. Grant program to recruit students to practice in underserved communities (Section 10501(l), p. 2344)
146. Community Health Center Fund (Section 10503, p. 2355)
147. Demonstration project to provide access to health care for the uninsured at reduced fees
(Section 10504, p. 2357)
148. Demonstration program to explore alternatives to tort litigation (Section 10607, p. 2369)
149. Indian Health demonstration program for chronic shortages of health professionals
(S. 1790, Section 112, p. 24)*
150. Office of Indian Men’s Health (S. 1790, Section 136, p. 71)*
151. Indian Country modular component facilities demonstration program (S. 1790, Section 146, p. 108)*
152. Indian mobile health stations demonstration program (S. 1790, Section 147, p. 111)*
153. Office of Direct Service Tribes (S. 1790, Section 172, p. 151)*
154. Indian Health Service mental health technician training program (S. 1790, Section 181, p. 173)*
155. Indian Health Service program for treatment of child sexual abuse victims
(S. 1790, Section 181, p. 192)*
156. Indian Health Service program for treatment of domestic violence and sexual abuse
(S. 1790, Section 181, p. 194)*
157. Indian youth telemental health demonstration project (S. 1790, Section 181, p. 204)*
158. Indian youth life skills demonstration project (S. 1790, Section 181, p. 220)*
159. Indian Health Service Director of HIV/AIDS Prevention and Treatment (S. 1790, Section 199B, p. 258)*

*Section 10221, page 2173 of H.R. 3590 deems that S. 1790 shall be deemed as passed with certain amendments

so you listed 159 of the programs addressed in the HC law. how is that saying that 150 new regulatory agencies will be created? ohhh because you think that each program will have an individual dedicated new agency created solely to oversee that program.......

 

[American Cowboy]

Bow down and admit defeat you little douchebag bitches. I have beat you two dumb fvcks up so bad it is sad.

still waiting for you show me where is states that 150 new agencies are being created....

The new agencies are spread throughout the 900 page law. Link Do you really beleive there is no cost to tax payers here? Come on...not even you could be that fvcking stupid. Rule #1 - EVERYTIME the government is involved, the tax payer is paying for it.

That video you bashed, yet can not dispute, can explain it to you. I don't have anymore time to deal with you little punks. If the video is over your heads you can ask your mothers.

Thanks for the fun boys! I love proving you liberals are dumber than sh*t. You guys made my day.

Still LMFAO!!!!

 

[peach174]

I'm talking about 159 NEW Agencies

http://www.house.gov/brady/pdf/Obamacare_Chart.pdf

 

[Uncensored2008]

you actually already do by paying your current health insurance premiums, or do you not undertand how health insurance work

Apparently it is you who doesn't comprehend how HMO and PPO health coverage works. Contrary to your claim the model is based on average usage. Each group participant establishes experion, payment model points. The group rates reflect the experion point value.

Catastrophic coverage follows the traditional insurance model, but that is not what Obama's fascist care covers. General health care is not based on an insurance model, as all participants are assumed to utilize the services.

Things That Are Not In the U.S. Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net - whole list of things not in the constitution including the Air Force, Executive Order, Slavery, and the Right to Vote.

Oh, well a straw man is BOUND to help your case....

How about listing ice cream flavors, you know, since you're posting utterly irrelevant lists.....

under the commerce clause and ruling by the supreme court, the government can tax and regulate interstate commerce. just as they can mandate you purchase car insurance prior to getting a drivers license.

Nope - the SCOTUS has ruled that the state can NOT compel individuals to purchase items from private concerns.

Your claim regarding auto insurance is likewise false. You let the leftist hate sites do your thinking, and they are often wrong. No state mandates auto-insurance as a prerequisite to obtaining a license - zero - not one. No state mandates purchasing insurance under ANY circumstance.

Many states have "financial responsibility" laws that require a level of liability. Given that a vehicle poses a danger to others, one must be prepared to pay for the consequences of ones action. The method of preparation can be cash, bond or insurance. No one is forced to buy anything.

its already been established that hospitals can not turn away patients, hence you already paying for their free health care whether you like it or not.

Emergency care to stabilize is not the same as general care.

you get access to cheaper health care because everyone is paying into the system

Quite the opposite. Obama's fascist care proposals have vastly increased the cost of health care and driven costs through the roof.

what about your individual rights? tell me what rights are being taken away.

The right to trade time and labor for the things one values. Obama's fascist care represents involuntary servitude and violates the 13th amendment.