American Exceptionalism?

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    spectrumc01 I give you....the TRUTH

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    American exceptionalism?, What the heck is that? American Exceptionalism is the samething as American arrogance, which we seem to have in abundance. Is the US exceptional? being an American I would say absolutely. If I were another nation I might have another opinion. American exceptionalism is the same thing as having a positive self image, which we encourage everyone to have. A positive self image is very important for proper mental health. I would hope that every other nation in the world has the same "exceptional" idea about themselves, as a positive self image will keep them mentally stable, and moving in a positive direction, which is good for everyone.

    Do people really want the US to go around telling everyone in the world how much better we are than everyone else? It seems to me that that would be the best way to alienate the rest of the world. Weather we want to believe it or not we must get along with our neighbors and work with them.

    To see how this "exceptionalism" works, just ask yourself, "how long would I stay involved with someone if all they had to say is how much better they are than you." From the American point of view we are better, but isn't it really something we should keep to ourselves?
     
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    Maybe, in your eyes.

    Having a positive self-image should (merely) be developed thru the normal maturation-process. (Some people prefer to take-on a John Wayne persona, in lieu of the efforts required to attain maturity; See: "conservatives")

    No....it should be obvious (to most) that when "conservatives" are referring-to exceptionalism, it's another o' their coded-references....that exceptional people are a result o' Divine Intervention....that (somehow) Americans are closer to God than anyone (else) on the Planet. In-other-words....if you weren't an exceptional-person....you'd have been born (somewhere) outside the U.S. borders.

    It doesn't have to make sense. Eric Blair would have referred-to-it as "conservative"-think. [​IMG]


     
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    It is useful in ignoring our shortcomings. For instance: We are so great we could not have such a shitty health care system.

    But we do.
     
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    It sounds alot like that "Master Race" crap Hitler was selling back in the '30s.
     
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    Bingo!!!!!

    (....Until some Black-dude showed Hitler he was full-o'-shit!!!! :cool: )

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    Whatta metaphor, huh?

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    I understand the politicos cheapen everything nowadays so they can speak in trite, meaningless one-liners and pretend they're witty, but there's actually more substance to the concept of "American Exceptionalism" than what's been spouted here.
     
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    1. Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan: "We are the oldest continuing democracy in the world. . . . We don't make refugees, we admit them. When the rich of the world get sick, they come here to be treated, and when their children come of age, they send them here to our universities. We have a supple political system open to reform, and a wildly diverse culture that has moments of stress but plenty of give. . . . The point is that while terrible challenges face us -- improving a sick public education system, ending the easy-money culture, rebuilding the economy -- we are building from an extraordinary, brilliant, and enduring base."

    2. Anne-Robert-Jacques Turgot, Baron de Laune, often referred to as Turgot (10 May 1727 – 18 March 1781), was a French economist and statesman. Today he is best remembered as an early advocate for economic liberalism. In a 1778 letter, he described America as “the hope of mankind” because it “must show the world by example, that men can be free and tranquil, and can do without the chains that tyrants and cheats of all garb have tried to lay on them…It must give the example of political, religious, commercial and industrial liberty. The shelter which it is going to offer to the oppressed of all nations will console the earth.”
    Anne-Robert-Jacques Turgot, Baron de Laune - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    3. “In most countries in the world your fate and your identity are handed to you; in America, you determine them for yourself. America is a country where you get to writh the script of your own life. Your life is like a blank sheet of paper, and you are the artist. This notion of being the architect of your own destiny is the incredibly powerful idea that is behind the worldwide appeal of America.” Dinesh D’Souza, born in India.

    4. Maddox makes the case for American indispensability. “American values are Western values,” she titles her third chapter. She stresses to her non-American readers that whatever differences they might have with America, they would do well to understand that the United States ultimately stands for individual rights, political freedom, and the free exchange of goods—all distinctly Western ideas.
    CJ Mobile

    5. In the speech that JFK had prepared for delivery on the day that he was assassinated:
    “ We in this country, in this generation, are--by destiny rather than choice--the watchmen on the walls of world freedom. We ask, therefore, that we may be worthy of our power and responsibility, that we may exercise our strength with wisdom and restraint, and that we may achieve in our time and for all time the ancient vision of "peace on earth, good will toward men." That must always be our goal, and the righteousness of our cause must always underlie our strength. For as was written long ago: "except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain."
    Selected Speeches of John F. Kennedy - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum


    6. In “Escaping Submission,” Egyptian-born Nonie Darwish writes:
    “I now belong to the greatest and most moral country that ever existed on the earth. The U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights [practiced in] this graceful country allowed me to practice any religion or no religion and gave me human rights I could only [have] dreamed of under Islam. I am lucky and more than lucky, I am saved. I was never discriminated against even after 9/11.”


    Don't hesitate to let me know if you require more of a remedial education.
     
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    The fact that our free enterprise system has allowed us to be responsible for every major advancement in technology in the last 50yrs might make the world think we are exceptional. Where would the world be without the internet. computers, windows operating system, microwaves, and all the other advancements that came form allowing people to profit from their developments. Capitalism makes us exceptional.
     
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    To the thread starter: American exceptionalism might start with proper spelling and grammar.
     
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    1. We are not a true democracy, we are a representative democracy. The worlds oldest democracy began in ancient greece in their city states. The "rich of the world" come here for medical treatment. Have you heard the saying, "what ever you do for the least of my brothers you do for me", or "you are only as strong as your weakest link". As for education have you heard of the "Road scholar" who travels abroad for their education? Oxford england may have something to say about the prestige of their university.

    2. Anne-Robert-Jacques Turgot, Baron de Laune, often referred to as Turgot (10 May 1727 – 18 March 1781), was a French economist and statesman. Iwonder what she would say now over two hundred years later about American exceptionalism?

    3. Dinesh D’Souza, born in India. India utilizes the caste system and has for thousands of years. to counter her statement I would refer you to the hoards of people coming to the US for our educational system as you pointed out in your second point.

    4. If the free exchange of goods is so great why is there such a backlash over outsourcing, and NAFTA, and CAFTA? Political freedom? Do you know what must be done by a third party to get on the ballot? its almost herculean. Where as the two other parties recieve it automatically. Individual rights you say... how about the "eminent domain" battles that took place in the New England area.

    5. / 6. A speech by JFK. and a testimonial by an Egyptian immigrant (hopefully legal). The US is exceptional but it has flaws and we are not "all that and a bag of chips" and to go around touting it makes us blind to the flaws we do have, and prevents us from going forward.

    As for remedial education... I hope I was able to teach you something.
     

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