America On The Brink: It Took Trump 8 Days To Bring The U.S. To The Brink Of A Constitutional Crisis

[Eloy]

You weren't worried about your dear leader ignoring the law and Constitution, hell his DOJ lied to judges and his attorney general was held in contempt of congress, that didn't phase you hypocrites a bit. That makes you nothing but a partisan hack with absolutely no proof that Trump has violated anything.

Quit changing the subject.

The law specifically states that it is the CONGRESS aka the Legislative branch of Government that is WHOLLY in charge of immigration in this country. Presidential powers do not extend BEYOND refugees.
Immigration

So Trump is in violation of the U.S. Constitution by usurping the constitutional authority of CONGRESS. He did NOT have the constitutional authority to issue a ban.

All past Presidents have conferred with the U.S. Attorney general before making decisions like this. Because it is the Attorney General of this country that advises the Presidents on which actions they can take and which ones they can't. Instead, Comrade Trump FIRED her for her refusal to break the law, and she advised all DOJ personal to NOT DEFEND his executive order because it was unlawful.

You have elected a fucking lunatic loose cannon, that doesn't know jack shit, and will not seek the advice from others that do. Trump should be impeached for this. Trump took an oath to protect & defend the U.S. Constitution, and he's already broken that oath.

First it's not a ban and he does have the authority when congress delegates the powers to him.

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Sucks to be so wrong so often, doesn't it?

See Post # 69 for an explanation of your error.

Wrong, I explained his error.

You wrongly claimed that the Republican Congress gave the power to Trump to write illegal Executive Orders.

 

[P@triot]

We are either a nation of laws - or we aren't...

Exactly! And Obama and the Dumbocrats decided we would not be a nation of laws. Why were you so silent during the most corrupt administration in U.S. history?

 

[P@triot]

"America on the brink"

Sweetie....the only thing America is "on the brink" of is winning.

 

[P@triot]

But, but, but Holder. You NaziCons have the attention span of a gnat. BTW, Holder was never president.

But....but....but....Trump is restoring constitutional government. And we progressives can't handle that. We can't handle not having our way through illegal means.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

“Obedience to specific court orders is what keeps us from being a banana republic or fascist dictatorship. That’s a really big deal.”

It took little more than a week in office for President Donald Trump to thrust the nation to the brink of a constitutional crisis.

Late Friday, Trump issued an executive order forbidding millions of refugees, hundreds of thousands of visitors and 500,000 legal immigrants from seven majority-Muslim countries from entering the United States. Over the following 48 hours, massive protests erupted in cities and airports nationwide, courts temporarily blocked major parts of the order, the administration defied the courts and Democrats called for an investigation into the administration’s defiance. As the weekend drew to a close, an anonymous White House official proclaimed the whole episode a “massive success story.”

The federal courts thought otherwise. On Saturday night, a judge in Brooklynordered the Trump administration to stop deporting refugees and visitors immigration authorities had previously cleared to enter the country. Two judges in Massachusetts ordered that travelers who were legally authorized to be in the United States shouldn’t be detained at or deported from Logan International Airportfor a period of seven days. A judge in Seattle halted the deportation of two travelers. And a judge in Virginia issued an order requiring the administration to allow lawyers access to lawful permanent residents — also known as green card holders — whom Customs and Border Protection agents had detained at Dulles International Airport on Trump’s instructions.

When federal judges rule, government officials — up to and including the president — are supposed to obey or risk being held in contempt of court. A government that ignored the courts would be able to violate the law and the Constitution at will. So for more than two centuries, the nation’s courts have had the last word on what’s legal and constitutional — and what is not. “We are and will remain in compliance with judicial orders,” the Department of Homeland Securitysaid in a statement Sunday evening.

But there was little indication that the Trump administration has fully complied with the court orders — or that Trump’s inner circle even believed the administration had to do so.

Disobeying a court order “is a big deal for any government official — federal, state, local, executive, legislative, whatever,” said Abner Greene, a law professor at Fordham University. “Obedience to specific court orders is what keeps us from being a banana republic or fascist dictatorship. That’s a really big deal.”

The chaos “doesn’t just risk a constitutional crisis,” argued Michael Dorf, a professor at Cornell Law School. “Assuming the report is accurate, it creates one.” If the Trump administration believes that the court orders limiting the president’s executive order are unlawful, it can file an emergency appeal, Dorf noted. But “outright defiance,” he added, “can only be deemed disrespect for the rule of law.”

More: It Took Donald Trump 8 Days To Bring The U.S. To The Brink Of A Constitutional Crisis

Trump obviously believes that he is above the law. He must be quickly and clearly shown that he isn't.

Afternoon rosie...what's new?

 

[xyz]

I don't know if everyone on here has seen a US passport, but one thing it does have in it is the place of birth listed.

There is no way to tell if someone has dual citizenship unless they actually have 2 passports on them, but I am curious if Reince Priebus's mother would get detained because she was born in Sudan.

 

[Blackrook]

I'm sure many people are openly and silently pondering his impeachment.

I'm pondering the fact that you don't have a pot to piss in.

 

[oreo]

We are either a nation of laws - or we aren't...

Exactly! And Obama and the Dumbocrats decided we would not be a nation of laws. Why were you so silent during the most corrupt administration in U.S. history?

We are a nation of laws, and the laws state that it is the legislative branch of government, aka Congress that is wholly in charge of immigration in this county. PRESIDENTIAL powers do NOT go beyond refugees.
Immigration

Comrade Trump has again usurped the constitutional duties of Congress in this executive order. He does NOT have the authority to ban 7 countries from entering this country.

And what's even more disturbing, is that he DID NOT ban the countries that are actually known for attacking us, and it's because HE has investments in those countries, like Saudi Arabia.
Donald Trump makes millions in Muslim countries

This country does not elect KINGS. The branches of government are: The Judicial (which he just fired) the Legislative & the Executive. Without all 3 of them we are NOT a Democracy anymore. We are Russia.

Comrade Trump is trying dismantle our Democracy.
Opinion | Donald Trump is a unique threat to American democracy

 

[Rustic]

“Obedience to specific court orders is what keeps us from being a banana republic or fascist dictatorship. That’s a really big deal.”

It took little more than a week in office for President Donald Trump to thrust the nation to the brink of a constitutional crisis.

Late Friday, Trump issued an executive order forbidding millions of refugees, hundreds of thousands of visitors and 500,000 legal immigrants from seven majority-Muslim countries from entering the United States. Over the following 48 hours, massive protests erupted in cities and airports nationwide, courts temporarily blocked major parts of the order, the administration defied the courts and Democrats called for an investigation into the administration’s defiance. As the weekend drew to a close, an anonymous White House official proclaimed the whole episode a “massive success story.”

The federal courts thought otherwise. On Saturday night, a judge in Brooklynordered the Trump administration to stop deporting refugees and visitors immigration authorities had previously cleared to enter the country. Two judges in Massachusetts ordered that travelers who were legally authorized to be in the United States shouldn’t be detained at or deported from Logan International Airportfor a period of seven days. A judge in Seattle halted the deportation of two travelers. And a judge in Virginia issued an order requiring the administration to allow lawyers access to lawful permanent residents — also known as green card holders — whom Customs and Border Protection agents had detained at Dulles International Airport on Trump’s instructions.

When federal judges rule, government officials — up to and including the president — are supposed to obey or risk being held in contempt of court. A government that ignored the courts would be able to violate the law and the Constitution at will. So for more than two centuries, the nation’s courts have had the last word on what’s legal and constitutional — and what is not. “We are and will remain in compliance with judicial orders,” the Department of Homeland Securitysaid in a statement Sunday evening.

But there was little indication that the Trump administration has fully complied with the court orders — or that Trump’s inner circle even believed the administration had to do so.

Disobeying a court order “is a big deal for any government official — federal, state, local, executive, legislative, whatever,” said Abner Greene, a law professor at Fordham University. “Obedience to specific court orders is what keeps us from being a banana republic or fascist dictatorship. That’s a really big deal.”

The chaos “doesn’t just risk a constitutional crisis,” argued Michael Dorf, a professor at Cornell Law School. “Assuming the report is accurate, it creates one.” If the Trump administration believes that the court orders limiting the president’s executive order are unlawful, it can file an emergency appeal, Dorf noted. But “outright defiance,” he added, “can only be deemed disrespect for the rule of law.”

More: It Took Donald Trump 8 Days To Bring The U.S. To The Brink Of A Constitutional Crisis

Trump obviously believes that he is above the law. He must be quickly and clearly shown that he isn't.

Washington Redskin, stay out of the firewater...

 

[P@triot]

We are either a nation of laws - or we aren't...

Exactly! And Obama and the Dumbocrats decided we would not be a nation of laws. Why were you so silent during the most corrupt administration in U.S. history?

We are a nation of laws, and the laws state that it is the legislative branch of government, aka Congress that is wholly in charge of immigration in this county.

No - we were a nation of laws. You Dumbocrats decided to end that under Obama. All of you thought it was so great to have a fascists dictator in the Oval Office when it was "your guy". Well....you reap what you sow buttercup.

Furthermore - as Commander in Chief - President Trump has full authority over defense. If he deems it a national security risk, he can absolutely prevent people from entering the country per his constitutional powers.

 

[P@triot]

We are a nation of laws, and the laws state that it is the legislative branch of government, aka Congress that is wholly in charge of immigration in this county.

Why are you talking about Congress? You proudly made them irrelevant under Barack Obama. You personally declared them "unnecessary" while Obama was in the White House. Now....suddenly....they matter to you?

 

[Ame®icano]

“Obedience to specific court orders is what keeps us from being a banana republic or fascist dictatorship. That’s a really big deal.”

It took little more than a week in office for President Donald Trump to thrust the nation to the brink of a constitutional crisis.

Late Friday, Trump issued an executive order forbidding millions of refugees, hundreds of thousands of visitors and 500,000 legal immigrants from seven majority-Muslim countries from entering the United States. Over the following 48 hours, massive protests erupted in cities and airports nationwide, courts temporarily blocked major parts of the order, the administration defied the courts and Democrats called for an investigation into the administration’s defiance. As the weekend drew to a close, an anonymous White House official proclaimed the whole episode a “massive success story.”

The federal courts thought otherwise. On Saturday night, a judge in Brooklynordered the Trump administration to stop deporting refugees and visitors immigration authorities had previously cleared to enter the country. Two judges in Massachusetts ordered that travelers who were legally authorized to be in the United States shouldn’t be detained at or deported from Logan International Airportfor a period of seven days. A judge in Seattle halted the deportation of two travelers. And a judge in Virginia issued an order requiring the administration to allow lawyers access to lawful permanent residents — also known as green card holders — whom Customs and Border Protection agents had detained at Dulles International Airport on Trump’s instructions.

When federal judges rule, government officials — up to and including the president — are supposed to obey or risk being held in contempt of court. A government that ignored the courts would be able to violate the law and the Constitution at will. So for more than two centuries, the nation’s courts have had the last word on what’s legal and constitutional — and what is not. “We are and will remain in compliance with judicial orders,” the Department of Homeland Securitysaid in a statement Sunday evening.

But there was little indication that the Trump administration has fully complied with the court orders — or that Trump’s inner circle even believed the administration had to do so.

Disobeying a court order “is a big deal for any government official — federal, state, local, executive, legislative, whatever,” said Abner Greene, a law professor at Fordham University. “Obedience to specific court orders is what keeps us from being a banana republic or fascist dictatorship. That’s a really big deal.”

The chaos “doesn’t just risk a constitutional crisis,” argued Michael Dorf, a professor at Cornell Law School. “Assuming the report is accurate, it creates one.” If the Trump administration believes that the court orders limiting the president’s executive order are unlawful, it can file an emergency appeal, Dorf noted. But “outright defiance,” he added, “can only be deemed disrespect for the rule of law.”

More: It Took Donald Trump 8 Days To Bring The U.S. To The Brink Of A Constitutional Crisis

Trump obviously believes that he is above the law. He must be quickly and clearly shown that he isn't.

Name one thing Trump did so far that is unconstitutional.

 

[bripat9643]

Thank you, Democrats.

Senate Dems Call For Investigation Into Trump Officials’ Failure To Obey Court Orders

What do you imagine the odds of that happening are?

 

[OKTexas]

Quit changing the subject.

The law specifically states that it is the CONGRESS aka the Legislative branch of Government that is WHOLLY in charge of immigration in this country. Presidential powers do not extend BEYOND refugees.
Immigration

So Trump is in violation of the U.S. Constitution by usurping the constitutional authority of CONGRESS. He did NOT have the constitutional authority to issue a ban.

All past Presidents have conferred with the U.S. Attorney general before making decisions like this. Because it is the Attorney General of this country that advises the Presidents on which actions they can take and which ones they can't. Instead, Comrade Trump FIRED her for her refusal to break the law, and she advised all DOJ personal to NOT DEFEND his executive order because it was unlawful.

You have elected a fucking lunatic loose cannon, that doesn't know jack shit, and will not seek the advice from others that do. Trump should be impeached for this. Trump took an oath to protect & defend the U.S. Constitution, and he's already broken that oath.

First it's not a ban and he does have the authority when congress delegates the powers to him.

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Sucks to be so wrong so often, doesn't it?

See Post # 69 for an explanation of your error.

Wrong, I explained his error.

You wrongly claimed that the Republican Congress gave the power to Trump to write illegal Executive Orders.

I'm really sorry to see you can't grasp what your read, I didn't say a damn thing about the republican congress. The law Trump and at least 5 other presidents used as the legal justification was passed by congress in 1952. I even posted the law for weak minded people like you. It's just a damn shame you lack the education to understand it. Maybe you ask an adult to explain it to ya.

 

[oreo]

The law specifically states that it is the CONGRESS aka the Legislative branch of Government that is WHOLLY in charge of immigration in this country. Presidential powers do not extend BEYOND refugees.
Immigration

So Trump is in violation of the U.S. Constitution by usurping the constitutional authority of CONGRESS. He did NOT have the constitutional authority to issue a ban.

All past Presidents have conferred with the U.S. Attorney general before making decisions like this. Because it is the Attorney General of this country that advises the Presidents on which actions they can take and which ones they can't. Instead, Comrade Trump FIRED her for her refusal to break the law, and she advised all DOJ personal to NOT DEFEND his executive order because it was unlawful.

You have elected a fucking lunatic loose cannon, that doesn't know jack shit, and will not seek the advice from others that do. Trump should be impeached for this. Trump took an oath to protect & defend the U.S. Constitution, and he's already broken that oath.

First it's not a ban and he does have the authority when congress delegates the powers to him.

View attachment 109731

Sucks to be so wrong so often, doesn't it?

See Post # 69 for an explanation of your error.

Wrong, I explained his error.

You wrongly claimed that the Republican Congress gave the power to Trump to write illegal Executive Orders.

I'm really sorry to see you can't grasp what your read, I didn't say a damn thing about the republican congress. The law Trump and at leas 5 other presidents used as the legal justification was passed by congress in 1952. I even posted the law for weak minded people like you. It's just a damn shame you lack the education to understand it. Maybe you ask an adult to explain it to ya.

I don't give a rats ass about what other Presidents did or did not do. It is clearly in the hands of the Congress to determine immigration policies. To add insult to injury, Trump didn't even ban the Muslim countries that have been attacking us. Primarily because he is heavily invested into those countries, like Saudi Arabia.
Donald Trump makes millions in Muslim countries

When Dick Cheney has issues with Trump and this executive order, then you probably should have them yourself.
Dick Cheney slams Trump’s Muslim entry ban

Comrade Trump is way out of bounds here.

 

[OKTexas]

We are either a nation of laws - or we aren't...

Exactly! And Obama and the Dumbocrats decided we would not be a nation of laws. Why were you so silent during the most corrupt administration in U.S. history?

We are a nation of laws, and the laws state that it is the legislative branch of government, aka Congress that is wholly in charge of immigration in this county. PRESIDENTIAL powers do NOT go beyond refugees.
Immigration

Comrade Trump has again usurped the constitutional duties of Congress in this executive order. He does NOT have the authority to ban 7 countries from entering this country.

And what's even more disturbing, is that he DID NOT ban the countries that are actually known for attacking us, and it's because HE has investments in those countries, like Saudi Arabia.
Donald Trump makes millions in Muslim countries

This country does not elect KINGS. The branches of government are: The Judicial (which he just fired) the Legislative & the Executive. Without all 3 of them we are NOT a Democracy anymore. We are Russia.

Comrade Trump is trying dismantle our Democracy.
Opinion | Donald Trump is a unique threat to American democracy

Child, the DOJ is part of the executive, not judicial. You might want to stick to subjects you have some knowledge of.

 

[OKTexas]

First it's not a ban and he does have the authority when congress delegates the powers to him.

View attachment 109731

Sucks to be so wrong so often, doesn't it?

See Post # 69 for an explanation of your error.

Wrong, I explained his error.

You wrongly claimed that the Republican Congress gave the power to Trump to write illegal Executive Orders.

I'm really sorry to see you can't grasp what your read, I didn't say a damn thing about the republican congress. The law Trump and at leas 5 other presidents used as the legal justification was passed by congress in 1952. I even posted the law for weak minded people like you. It's just a damn shame you lack the education to understand it. Maybe you ask an adult to explain it to ya.

I don't give a rats ass about what other Presidents did or did not do. It is clearly in the hands of the Congress to determine immigration policies. To add insult to injury, Trump didn't even ban the Muslim countries that have been attacking us. Primarily because he is heavily invested into those countries, like Saudi Arabia.
Donald Trump makes millions in Muslim countries

When Dick Cheney has issues with Trump and this executive order, then you probably should have them yourself.
Dick Cheney slams Trump’s Muslim entry ban

Comrade Trump is way out of bounds here.

See post #96.

 

[oreo]

We are either a nation of laws - or we aren't...

Exactly! And Obama and the Dumbocrats decided we would not be a nation of laws. Why were you so silent during the most corrupt administration in U.S. history?

We are a nation of laws, and the laws state that it is the legislative branch of government, aka Congress that is wholly in charge of immigration in this county. PRESIDENTIAL powers do NOT go beyond refugees.
Immigration

Comrade Trump has again usurped the constitutional duties of Congress in this executive order. He does NOT have the authority to ban 7 countries from entering this country.

And what's even more disturbing, is that he DID NOT ban the countries that are actually known for attacking us, and it's because HE has investments in those countries, like Saudi Arabia.
Donald Trump makes millions in Muslim countries

This country does not elect KINGS. The branches of government are: The Judicial (which he just fired) the Legislative & the Executive. Without all 3 of them we are NOT a Democracy anymore. We are Russia.

Comrade Trump is trying dismantle our Democracy.
Opinion | Donald Trump is a unique threat to American democracy

Child, the DOJ is part of the executive, not judicial. You might want to stick to subjects you have some knowledge of.

The Department of Justice is part of the Judicial branch moron. The U.S attorney General is there to ADVISE the President on his boundaries within the law, to PROTECT and DEFEND the U.S. Constitution. Trump just fired the Judicial branch.

 

[Indeependent]

We are either a nation of laws - or we aren't...

Exactly! And Obama and the Dumbocrats decided we would not be a nation of laws. Why were you so silent during the most corrupt administration in U.S. history?

We are a nation of laws, and the laws state that it is the legislative branch of government, aka Congress that is wholly in charge of immigration in this county. PRESIDENTIAL powers do NOT go beyond refugees.
Immigration

Comrade Trump has again usurped the constitutional duties of Congress in this executive order. He does NOT have the authority to ban 7 countries from entering this country.

And what's even more disturbing, is that he DID NOT ban the countries that are actually known for attacking us, and it's because HE has investments in those countries, like Saudi Arabia.
Donald Trump makes millions in Muslim countries

This country does not elect KINGS. The branches of government are: The Judicial (which he just fired) the Legislative & the Executive. Without all 3 of them we are NOT a Democracy anymore. We are Russia.

Comrade Trump is trying dismantle our Democracy.
Opinion | Donald Trump is a unique threat to American democracy

Child, the DOJ is part of the executive, not judicial. You might want to stick to subjects you have some knowledge of.

The Department of Justice is part of the Judicial branch moron. The U.S attorney General is there to ADVISE the President on his boundaries within the law, to PROTECT and DEFEND the U.S. Constitution. Trump just fired the Judicial branch.

Because the idiot AG reacted SUBJECTIVELY.

 

[OKTexas]

We are either a nation of laws - or we aren't...

Exactly! And Obama and the Dumbocrats decided we would not be a nation of laws. Why were you so silent during the most corrupt administration in U.S. history?

We are a nation of laws, and the laws state that it is the legislative branch of government, aka Congress that is wholly in charge of immigration in this county. PRESIDENTIAL powers do NOT go beyond refugees.
Immigration

Comrade Trump has again usurped the constitutional duties of Congress in this executive order. He does NOT have the authority to ban 7 countries from entering this country.

And what's even more disturbing, is that he DID NOT ban the countries that are actually known for attacking us, and it's because HE has investments in those countries, like Saudi Arabia.
Donald Trump makes millions in Muslim countries

This country does not elect KINGS. The branches of government are: The Judicial (which he just fired) the Legislative & the Executive. Without all 3 of them we are NOT a Democracy anymore. We are Russia.

Comrade Trump is trying dismantle our Democracy.
Opinion | Donald Trump is a unique threat to American democracy

Child, the DOJ is part of the executive, not judicial. You might want to stick to subjects you have some knowledge of.

The Department of Justice is part of the Judicial branch moron. The U.S attorney General is there to ADVISE the President on his boundaries within the law, to PROTECT and DEFEND the U.S. Constitution. Trump just fired the Judicial branch.

Wrong again dumb ass, the AG is the chief law ENFORCEMENT officer and is part of the executive branch. Reading is fundamental.

United States federal executive departments - Wikipedia