Am I the only athiest on here, who when...

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    ...they read posts by the true-blue god botherers (ie, The Light), it only reinforces the fact there is no god? And if by some minor miracle it turns out that there is some sort of god out there, he or she would be sorely disappointed with the quality of his or her recruits
     
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    I'll pray for you, Grumpy.... just to annoy you.
     
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    I'm not an atheist, but my thinking brain is agnostic and my feeling brain believes in a god.

    My feeling brain believes in a god because it works for me - makes me feel better - and that is just so subjective that it's not even worth my arguing one way or the other about it. It's like arguing with someone as to why a certain color is their favorite. There is little logical to it, so using logic to argue it one way or the other is an effort in futility.

    So, I usually use my agnostic side when discussing this topic. My agnostic side, says that one cannot prove the existence or the nonexistence of a god. The agruments for the existence of a god seems to depend on non-falsifiabilty. The arguments for the non-existene of a god do, too.

    It's not all that challenging to me.

    When I do get in some sort of discussion about it it is to defend a person's right to a belief or non-belief.
     
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    Well, the thing is, I'll take my chances when the time comes...
     
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    Grump, people like to think they think - I think it was Nietzsche who said, never look too close at an experience you may see its emptiness.


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    Nobody gives a crap what Dr. Chump believes or doesn't believe.

    Is there divine Creator? I don't know for sure. It's all a matter of belief and/or faith.

    One can Believe in God and get ridiculed by some pompous asshole like Dr. Chump.

    One may be an agnostic (i.e., admit that he or she doesn't "know" and choose to express such doubt).

    Or one may be an atheist and express the belief (but again, it's JUST a belief) that there is no God.

    Why atheists pretend that their mere belief is superior to the beliefs of people of religious faith is a bit of a mystery.

    People like Dr. Chump are just arrogant pantloads.
     
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    Si

    I'm pretty much the same as you with regard to belief. I just find the real holy rollers turn offs and do nothing to advance their cause...
     
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    I agree with Anais

    Hey speaking of Nietzsche. When I just left school I worked in a book store. One of the books was on great lines of graffiti.

    One such piece of graffiti scrawled on some wall somewhere went something along the lines of: "God is dead" - Nietzsche. Written underneath, in different handwriting/spray was "Nietzsche is Dead" - God.
     
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    And yet here you are contributing to this thread..

    ...I'm not so much arrogant as surprised....

    I don't think my belief is superior, just right - and there is a difference.
     
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    Then you are likely more accurately an agnostic.

    Atheists are convinced that there is no god. Which, is sort of ironic to me. The word itself means 'the opposite of a believer in a god'. Just as one believes there is God, one must also believe that there is no God. I say that because beliefs are brains processes not based on proof. As one can neither prove the existence of a god nor the nonexistence of one, being an atheist seems to be just as much a belief.

    I know that pisses off atheists to say that (and that is not my intent), but I do believe that my argument is sound on that until I see a counter that has a great logical foundation.
     
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