CDZ Alright, anti gunners. Explain the law or laws that will stop school shootings, here is your chance

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Okay....I have really had enough of the anti gunners who parade out, dragging the warm bodies of dead children in front of cameras in order to push taking guns away from everyone who didn't shoot anyone in a school today......

Given that all mass public shooting victims total 795 ....in all shootings since 1982....while those murdered with knives are over 1,500 every single year.........

This is your chance......explain to us what you would do to stop school shootings.....and if you feel like it, other mass public shootings....

This is the CDZ, so you don't have to worry about being attacked for your views....but you must actually support your laws with how they actually would work....

US mass shootings, 1982-2018: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation
Total murders by mass public shooters...1982-2017


795



knife murders by year....(FBI homicide stats...)

2009----1,836
2010----1,933
2011----1,611
2012---1,769
2013---1.956
 
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Okay....I have really had enough of the anti gunners who parade out, dragging the warm bodies of dead children in front of cameras in order to push taking guns away from everyone who didn't shoot anyone in a school today......

Given that all mass public shooting victims total 795 ....in all shootings since 1982....while those murdered with knives are over 1,500 every single year.........

This is your chance......explain to us what you would do to stop school shootings.....and if you feel like it, other mass public shootings....

This is the CDZ, so you don't have to worry about being attacked for your views....but you must actually support your laws with how they actually would work....

US mass shootings, 1982-2018: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation
Total murders by mass public shooters...1982-2017


795



Moron...knife murders.....2009-2013.....

2009----1,836
2010----1,933
2011----1,611
2012---1,769
2013---1.956
I think if Democrats didn't spend so much time breeding hatred in our schools....there would be fewer mass-shootings.
 
I can tell you the laws that increase the likelihood of school shootings:

The laws that prevent us from institutionalizing insane and dangerous adolescent males, before they go on a rampage.

The laws that allow gang members and illegals to set up house in our country.

The laws that prevent school employees from arming themselves in order to protect their charges from attackers.

And the acts of the left that increase the likelihood of kids being shot up:

The constant press attention to *gun free zones*...identifying them and drawing figurative bullseyes on our schools.

Their gleeful assertion every time one of their custom-made child killers shoots up a school, it's because we are allowed to bear arms in our country.

Without acknowledging the fact that no, at those schools people AREN'T allowed to bear arms.
 
Not a lib, but here is my take... It's always a dam money thing when it comes to securing our schools, and the facilities that we trust our kids to visit, and learn in. After all these incidents of mass murder in these school shootings, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF THESE SCHOOLS OR FACILITIES, WOULD SAY TO THEIR REPRESENTATIVES THAT METAL DETECTORS ARE NEEDED, BARRIERS ARE NEEDED, AND SECURITY OFFICERS WITH MORE TRAINING ARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE BETTER. WE HAVE TO LOOK OURSELVES IN THE MIRROR NOW, AND SAY WHY ????? WHY HAVE WE CONTINUED TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THIS ISSUE ???

IT'S NOT THE GUN'S SO DON'T EVEN WASTE PEOPLES TIME WITH THAT BULLCRAP demons, BUT RATHER IT'S THE PEOPLE BEHIND THESE GUN'S WHO ARE THE PROBLEM THAT IS NOW TAKING SO MANY INNOCENT LIVES. WE MUST ADMIT IT, AND QUIT ALLOWING DUMB PEOPLE TO FOOL US INTO BELIEVING THE LYING BULLCRAP ABOUT THE CAUSES OF THE ISSUES ANYMORE.

TIME FOR THIS COUNTRY TO PUT ITS DAM MONEY WHERE IT SHOULD BE OR MOUTH IS, AND QUIT PLAYING GAMES WITH OUR CHILDREN'S LIVES. THESE SCHOOLS CAN BE SECURED.

NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND MUST END IMMEDIATELY. PROBLEMS MUST BE DEALT WITH IMMEDIATELY. IF HAVE A PROBLEM, THEN GET HELP, AND THEN HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE THE RIGHT HELP, AND THE PROBLEM WILL BE HELPED.

NO MORE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
 
Not a lib, but here is my take... It's always a dam money thing when it comes to securing our schools, and facilities that we trust our kids to visit, and learn in. After all these incidents of mass murder in these school shootings, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF THESE SCHOOLS OR FACILITIES, WOULD SAY TO THEIR REPRESENTATIVES THAT METAL DETECTORS ARE NEEDED, BARRIERS ARE NEEDED, AND SECURITY OFFICERS WITH MORE TRAINING ARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE BETTER. WE HAVE TO LOOK OURSELVES IN THE MIRROR NOW, AND SAY WHY ????? WHY HAVE WE CONTINUED TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THIS ISSUE ???

IT'S NOT THE GUN'S SO DON'T EVEN WASTE PEOPLES TIME WITH THAT BULLCRAP demons, BUT RATHER IT'S THE PEOPLE BEHIND THESE GUN'S WHO ARE THE PROBLEM THAT IS NOW TAKING SO MANY INNOCENT LIVES. WE MUST ADMIT IT, AND QUIT ALLOWING DUMB PEOPLE TO FOOL US INTO BELIEVING THE LYING BULLCRAP ABOUT THE CAUSES OF THE ISSUES ANYMORE.

TIME FOR THIS COUNTRY TO PUT ITS DAM MONEY WHERE IT SHOULD BE OR MOUTH IS, AND QUIT PLAYING GAMES WITH OUR CHILDREN'S LIVES. THESE SCHOOLS CAN BE SECURED.

NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND MUST END IMMEDIATELY. PROBLEMS MUST BE DEALT WITH IMMEDIATELY. IF HAVE A PROBLEM, THEN GET HELP, AND THEN HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE THE RIGHT HELP, AND THE PROBLEM WILL BE HELPED.

NO MORE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.


The problem? Metal detectors still won't stop a mass shooter, this guy pulled the fire alarm......he could have simply stepped outside, retrieved his gun and started shooting the kids outside...or simply walked up to the metal detector and shot the guy operating it...then walked into the school....

If you see something, say something needs to be drilled into the students...since they know who these kids are before these things happen.
 
There will be no solutions offered, just more smoking and lying.
 
Build prisons, build mental hospitals.
Lock up the crazies.

Start with antifa dingbats and the people who aim them at people.
 
Not a lib, but here is my take... It's always a dam money thing when it comes to securing our schools, and facilities that we trust our kids to visit, and learn in. After all these incidents of mass murder in these school shootings, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF THESE SCHOOLS OR FACILITIES, WOULD SAY TO THEIR REPRESENTATIVES THAT METAL DETECTORS ARE NEEDED, BARRIERS ARE NEEDED, AND SECURITY OFFICERS WITH MORE TRAINING ARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE BETTER. WE HAVE TO LOOK OURSELVES IN THE MIRROR NOW, AND SAY WHY ????? WHY HAVE WE CONTINUED TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THIS ISSUE ???

IT'S NOT THE GUN'S SO DON'T EVEN WASTE PEOPLES TIME WITH THAT BULLCRAP demons, BUT RATHER IT'S THE PEOPLE BEHIND THESE GUN'S WHO ARE THE PROBLEM THAT IS NOW TAKING SO MANY INNOCENT LIVES. WE MUST ADMIT IT, AND QUIT ALLOWING DUMB PEOPLE TO FOOL US INTO BELIEVING THE LYING BULLCRAP ABOUT THE CAUSES OF THE ISSUES ANYMORE.

TIME FOR THIS COUNTRY TO PUT ITS DAM MONEY WHERE IT SHOULD BE OR MOUTH IS, AND QUIT PLAYING GAMES WITH OUR CHILDREN'S LIVES. THESE SCHOOLS CAN BE SECURED.

NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND MUST END IMMEDIATELY. PROBLEMS MUST BE DEALT WITH IMMEDIATELY. IF HAVE A PROBLEM, THEN GET HELP, AND THEN HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE THE RIGHT HELP, AND THE PROBLEM WILL BE HELPED.

NO MORE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.


The problem? Metal detectors still won't stop a mass shooter, this guy pulled the fire alarm......he could have simply stepped outside, retrieved his gun and started shooting the kids outside...or simply walked up to the metal detector and shot the guy operating it...then walked into the school....

If you see something, say something needs to be drilled into the students...since they know who these kids are before these things happen.
. The idea behind securing the schools is to sit down and listen to all the ideas or senarios, and then take action. Metal detectors are just one aspect of the layers that need to be created, and it can be done. We as a people/nation have invented some of the most ingenious things, and we have built some of the most unbelievable structures and architecture the world has known, but we can't save our children's lives ??? How pathetic and sick is that ?? I tell you it's a money thing. These facilities can be secured, monitored, and made safe. The exploitation of the weaknesses found are on going, but our children's blood is paying greatly for these weaknesses.
 
The gun lovers use sad situations like this to bolster their notion that they no are benign tools being misused by the mentally frazzled. Those of us without a love for guns and gun culture become calloused to sad situations like this with the knowledge that gun lovers would build a rampart of corpses to protect their own guns.

The app not solution is to come to the understanding that weapons designed for warfare have no place in our society. They must be banned, bought back from the gun owners and eventually confiscated as a public health hazard. There is no practical purpose for such weaponry. One can defend one's self reasonably with a revolver. Only a Rambo wannabe thinks he absolutely needs an assault weapon.

But they will baffle us with meaningless statistics. They will stand by their misreading of the second amendment. They will ignore the carnage because they are immersed in a culture that sees only beneficence in guns, never the tragedy they bring. In fact, that tragedy gives them confidence in the mistake that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Keeping the guns from the bad guys is the obvious solution.
 
The gun lovers use sad situations like this to bolster their notion that they no are benign tools being misused by the mentally frazzled. Those of us without a love for guns and gun culture become calloused to sad situations like this with the knowledge that gun lovers would build a rampart of corpses to protect their own guns.

The app not solution is to come to the understanding that weapons designed for warfare have no place in our society. They must be banned, bought back from the gun owners and eventually confiscated as a public health hazard. There is no practical purpose for such weaponry. One can defend one's self reasonably with a revolver. Only a Rambo wannabe thinks he absolutely needs an assault weapon.

But they will baffle us with meaningless statistics. They will stand by their misreading of the second amendment. They will ignore the carnage because they are immersed in a culture that sees only beneficence in guns, never the tragedy they bring. In fact, that tragedy gives them confidence in the mistake that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Keeping the guns from the bad guys is the obvious solution.

As soon as the cops give up their's we might consider giving up the right to ours.

And semi-automatic rifles are not "weapons of war".

Do we even know what type of gun was used here?

Your solution is to treat everyone as a bad guy. Except of course government actors and the powerful who will do what they want no matter what laws we pass.
 
The gun lovers use sad situations like this to bolster their notion that they no are benign tools being misused by the mentally frazzled. Those of us without a love for guns and gun culture become calloused to sad situations like this with the knowledge that gun lovers would build a rampart of corpses to protect their own guns.

The app not solution is to come to the understanding that weapons designed for warfare have no place in our society. They must be banned, bought back from the gun owners and eventually confiscated as a public health hazard. There is no practical purpose for such weaponry. One can defend one's self reasonably with a revolver. Only a Rambo wannabe thinks he absolutely needs an assault weapon.

But they will baffle us with meaningless statistics. They will stand by their misreading of the second amendment. They will ignore the carnage because they are immersed in a culture that sees only beneficence in guns, never the tragedy they bring. In fact, that tragedy gives them confidence in the mistake that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Keeping the guns from the bad guys is the obvious solution.
Less people are killed with any rifle MUCH less an ar-15 then are killed by knives every year, when ya gonna demand we confiscate all sharp knives?
 
The gun lovers use sad situations like this to bolster their notion that they no are benign tools being misused by the mentally frazzled. Those of us without a love for guns and gun culture become calloused to sad situations like this with the knowledge that gun lovers would build a rampart of corpses to protect their own guns.

The app not solution is to come to the understanding that weapons designed for warfare have no place in our society. They must be banned, bought back from the gun owners and eventually confiscated as a public health hazard. There is no practical purpose for such weaponry. One can defend one's self reasonably with a revolver. Only a Rambo wannabe thinks he absolutely needs an assault weapon.

But they will baffle us with meaningless statistics. They will stand by their misreading of the second amendment. They will ignore the carnage because they are immersed in a culture that sees only beneficence in guns, never the tragedy they bring. In fact, that tragedy gives them confidence in the mistake that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Keeping the guns from the bad guys is the obvious solution.

As soon as the cops give up their's we might consider giving up the right to ours.

And semi-automatic rifles are not "weapons of war".

Do we even know what type of gun was used here?

Your solution is to treat everyone as a bad guy. Except of course government actors and the powerful who will do what they want no matter what laws we pass.
Are you out to combat the police? Is that why you need a gun?

And any weapon capable of firing multiple rounds in seconds is a weapon of war. For defense you need a six shot revolver. If you cannot stop the situation and finds means of escape after six shots, you are the menace. So many stray bullets flying around is a public health hazard.
 
The gun lovers use sad situations like this to bolster their notion that they no are benign tools being misused by the mentally frazzled. Those of us without a love for guns and gun culture become calloused to sad situations like this with the knowledge that gun lovers would build a rampart of corpses to protect their own guns.

The app not solution is to come to the understanding that weapons designed for warfare have no place in our society. They must be banned, bought back from the gun owners and eventually confiscated as a public health hazard. There is no practical purpose for such weaponry. One can defend one's self reasonably with a revolver. Only a Rambo wannabe thinks he absolutely needs an assault weapon.

But they will baffle us with meaningless statistics. They will stand by their misreading of the second amendment. They will ignore the carnage because they are immersed in a culture that sees only beneficence in guns, never the tragedy they bring. In fact, that tragedy gives them confidence in the mistake that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Keeping the guns from the bad guys is the obvious solution.
Less people are killed with any rifle MUCH less an ar-15 then are killed by knives every year, when ya gonna demand we confiscate all sharp knives?
I don't slice my prime rib with a gun. Your's is a specious argument.
 
The gun lovers use sad situations like this to bolster their notion that they no are benign tools being misused by the mentally frazzled. Those of us without a love for guns and gun culture become calloused to sad situations like this with the knowledge that gun lovers would build a rampart of corpses to protect their own guns.

The app not solution is to come to the understanding that weapons designed for warfare have no place in our society. They must be banned, bought back from the gun owners and eventually confiscated as a public health hazard. There is no practical purpose for such weaponry. One can defend one's self reasonably with a revolver. Only a Rambo wannabe thinks he absolutely needs an assault weapon.

But they will baffle us with meaningless statistics. They will stand by their misreading of the second amendment. They will ignore the carnage because they are immersed in a culture that sees only beneficence in guns, never the tragedy they bring. In fact, that tragedy gives them confidence in the mistake that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Keeping the guns from the bad guys is the obvious solution.

As soon as the cops give up their's we might consider giving up the right to ours.

And semi-automatic rifles are not "weapons of war".

Do we even know what type of gun was used here?

Your solution is to treat everyone as a bad guy. Except of course government actors and the powerful who will do what they want no matter what laws we pass.
. They are seriously lazy when it comes to solving the situations, and they are greedy too.. It is why they always get it wrong.
 
The gun lovers use sad situations like this to bolster their notion that they no are benign tools being misused by the mentally frazzled. Those of us without a love for guns and gun culture become calloused to sad situations like this with the knowledge that gun lovers would build a rampart of corpses to protect their own guns.

The app not solution is to come to the understanding that weapons designed for warfare have no place in our society. They must be banned, bought back from the gun owners and eventually confiscated as a public health hazard. There is no practical purpose for such weaponry. One can defend one's self reasonably with a revolver. Only a Rambo wannabe thinks he absolutely needs an assault weapon.

But they will baffle us with meaningless statistics. They will stand by their misreading of the second amendment. They will ignore the carnage because they are immersed in a culture that sees only beneficence in guns, never the tragedy they bring. In fact, that tragedy gives them confidence in the mistake that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Keeping the guns from the bad guys is the obvious solution.
Less people are killed with any rifle MUCH less an ar-15 then are killed by knives every year, when ya gonna demand we confiscate all sharp knives?
I don't slice my prime rib with a gun. Your's is a specious argument.
No it is not 1500 people a year are murdered with knives less then 500 are murdered with ALL types of rifles so even less with ar-15's. Yet you claim THEY are a problem, 3 times as many people are murdered by knives shouldn't we end the horror and ban private ownership of knives?
 
The gun lovers use sad situations like this to bolster their notion that they no are benign tools being misused by the mentally frazzled. Those of us without a love for guns and gun culture become calloused to sad situations like this with the knowledge that gun lovers would build a rampart of corpses to protect their own guns.

The app not solution is to come to the understanding that weapons designed for warfare have no place in our society. They must be banned, bought back from the gun owners and eventually confiscated as a public health hazard. There is no practical purpose for such weaponry. One can defend one's self reasonably with a revolver. Only a Rambo wannabe thinks he absolutely needs an assault weapon.

But they will baffle us with meaningless statistics. They will stand by their misreading of the second amendment. They will ignore the carnage because they are immersed in a culture that sees only beneficence in guns, never the tragedy they bring. In fact, that tragedy gives them confidence in the mistake that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Keeping the guns from the bad guys is the obvious solution.

As soon as the cops give up their's we might consider giving up the right to ours.

And semi-automatic rifles are not "weapons of war".

Do we even know what type of gun was used here?

Your solution is to treat everyone as a bad guy. Except of course government actors and the powerful who will do what they want no matter what laws we pass.
Are you out to combat the police? Is that why you need a gun?

And any weapon capable of firing multiple rounds in seconds is a weapon of war. For defense you need a six shot revolver. If you cannot stop the situation and finds means of escape after six shots, you are the menace. So many stray bullets flying around is a public health hazard.
. Any weapon in the hands of the good guys is of no threat, and is used for defense of any senario that proves needed. A weapon of any kind in the hands of a bad guy is a huge threat be it a bomb, vehicle, plane, gun or whatever they choose to harm someone or many with.

Listening to the left is over... It's time to wage war on the ideology that is driving these things.
 
The gun lovers use sad situations like this to bolster their notion that they no are benign tools being misused by the mentally frazzled. Those of us without a love for guns and gun culture become calloused to sad situations like this with the knowledge that gun lovers would build a rampart of corpses to protect their own guns.

The app not solution is to come to the understanding that weapons designed for warfare have no place in our society. They must be banned, bought back from the gun owners and eventually confiscated as a public health hazard. There is no practical purpose for such weaponry. One can defend one's self reasonably with a revolver. Only a Rambo wannabe thinks he absolutely needs an assault weapon.

But they will baffle us with meaningless statistics. They will stand by their misreading of the second amendment. They will ignore the carnage because they are immersed in a culture that sees only beneficence in guns, never the tragedy they bring. In fact, that tragedy gives them confidence in the mistake that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Keeping the guns from the bad guys is the obvious solution.



Their is no misreading of the 2nd amendment and in the year 2018 it would be impossible to get rid of guns.


1. You will never get rid of the 2nd amendment

2. To many guns in the USA

3. Any one can make them



The only way to corral the problem is:

1. Enforce all the gun laws currently on the books ... if they were enforced like 65% of Americans would have to give up their guns.

2. Bring back mental hospitals ( Regeans biggest mistake) and quit using jails as mental hospitals.
 
The gun lovers use sad situations like this to bolster their notion that they no are benign tools being misused by the mentally frazzled. Those of us without a love for guns and gun culture become calloused to sad situations like this with the knowledge that gun lovers would build a rampart of corpses to protect their own guns.

The app not solution is to come to the understanding that weapons designed for warfare have no place in our society. They must be banned, bought back from the gun owners and eventually confiscated as a public health hazard. There is no practical purpose for such weaponry. One can defend one's self reasonably with a revolver. Only a Rambo wannabe thinks he absolutely needs an assault weapon.

But they will baffle us with meaningless statistics. They will stand by their misreading of the second amendment. They will ignore the carnage because they are immersed in a culture that sees only beneficence in guns, never the tragedy they bring. In fact, that tragedy gives them confidence in the mistake that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Keeping the guns from the bad guys is the obvious solution.
Less people are killed with any rifle MUCH less an ar-15 then are killed by knives every year, when ya gonna demand we confiscate all sharp knives?
I don't slice my prime rib with a gun. Your's is a specious argument.
No it is not 1500 people a year are murdered with knives less then 500 are murdered with ALL types of rifles so even less with ar-15's. Yet you claim THEY are a problem, 3 times as many people are murdered by knives shouldn't we end the horror and ban private ownership of knives?
I have knives designed to cut steak, bread, cheese, filet fish, peel apples, and cut leather.

Guns are designed to propel bits of metal at lethal speed.

Which is the actual hazard?
 
The gun lovers use sad situations like this to bolster their notion that they no are benign tools being misused by the mentally frazzled. Those of us without a love for guns and gun culture become calloused to sad situations like this with the knowledge that gun lovers would build a rampart of corpses to protect their own guns.

The app not solution is to come to the understanding that weapons designed for warfare have no place in our society. They must be banned, bought back from the gun owners and eventually confiscated as a public health hazard. There is no practical purpose for such weaponry. One can defend one's self reasonably with a revolver. Only a Rambo wannabe thinks he absolutely needs an assault weapon.

But they will baffle us with meaningless statistics. They will stand by their misreading of the second amendment. They will ignore the carnage because they are immersed in a culture that sees only beneficence in guns, never the tragedy they bring. In fact, that tragedy gives them confidence in the mistake that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Keeping the guns from the bad guys is the obvious solution.

As soon as the cops give up their's we might consider giving up the right to ours.

And semi-automatic rifles are not "weapons of war".

Do we even know what type of gun was used here?

Your solution is to treat everyone as a bad guy. Except of course government actors and the powerful who will do what they want no matter what laws we pass.
Are you out to combat the police? Is that why you need a gun?

And any weapon capable of firing multiple rounds in seconds is a weapon of war. For defense you need a six shot revolver. If you cannot stop the situation and finds means of escape after six shots, you are the menace. So many stray bullets flying around is a public health hazard.

Because as hard as you try you will never remove guns from people who want them. And with all the doomsday stuff about Trump the left is going with these days maybe the left should think about government being the only people to have something more than a popgun.

Can you guarantee no one will have anything more powerful than a revolver? If not, then why should I voluntarily limit myself to an inferior defense weapon?

Also, again, if the cops go back to revolvers only, then we can talk.
 
The gun lovers use sad situations like this to bolster their notion that they no are benign tools being misused by the mentally frazzled. Those of us without a love for guns and gun culture become calloused to sad situations like this with the knowledge that gun lovers would build a rampart of corpses to protect their own guns.

The app not solution is to come to the understanding that weapons designed for warfare have no place in our society. They must be banned, bought back from the gun owners and eventually confiscated as a public health hazard. There is no practical purpose for such weaponry. One can defend one's self reasonably with a revolver. Only a Rambo wannabe thinks he absolutely needs an assault weapon.

But they will baffle us with meaningless statistics. They will stand by their misreading of the second amendment. They will ignore the carnage because they are immersed in a culture that sees only beneficence in guns, never the tragedy they bring. In fact, that tragedy gives them confidence in the mistake that only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. Keeping the guns from the bad guys is the obvious solution.

As soon as the cops give up their's we might consider giving up the right to ours.

And semi-automatic rifles are not "weapons of war".

Do we even know what type of gun was used here?

Your solution is to treat everyone as a bad guy. Except of course government actors and the powerful who will do what they want no matter what laws we pass.
. They are seriously lazy when it comes to solving the situations, and they are greedy too.. It is why they always get it wrong.

it's not lazy, its being naive. They think by somehow stopping me from getting anything more than a popgun, it will prevent someone with criminal intent from getting a gun they find scary.
 

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