ScreamingEagle
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..Hatred for the US lies mainly with Ahmadinejad's age group (yes, they have good reasons like the Iraq-Iran war)....but it is the young people who are protesting...they want their voices to be heard and have more freedom....not necessarily to overthrow the Ayatollah.Nik said:Gee...are people going to follow their own leader, or the leader of a foreign country who previously overthrew their government and installed a dictator.
Hmmm....
If we make it a case of Obama v. Ahmadinejad, Ahamdinejad wins. Obama is popular, but the United States is hated, and for good reason there. If it remains a case of Ahmadinejad v. the Iranian people, well then Ahmadinejad has a chance of losing.
You do realize that there are many many people in Iran who have mixed feelings about this matter, yes? And that by involving ourselves into the debate, we may make them side with Ahmadinejad?
Incorrect. In a poll in early June only 30% of so of Iranians had a favorable view of the United States. Thats more than just the old people.
Link pls? In any case, it is the young who are leading the revolution...their hatred does not lie so deep as does with the older generation and change is much more possible with them.
For the leader of the free world to voice his opinion about freedom and to support the growing cause of freedom in Iran would do nothing to hurt our relations with Iran and everything to do with our own goals.
I'm not talking about Iran-US relations being hurt. I'm talking about the protestors succeeding or not.
I don't think they are going to succeed for quite awhile yet in any case.
I believe the president should be frank and honest about our beliefs in freedom. Too bad if the current leaders of Iran don't like it....they don't like a lot of things...but the next generation in Iran is going to have to be dealt with.....don't dismiss that factor so blithely. I don't think the old leaders can successfully frame the debate between Ahmanedinejad and the US anymore.
Again...its NOT about what the current leaders like or dislikes, its about the populace.
It certainly is....but they have no real leader yet...Obama missed an historical opportunity...