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No doubt they're afraid that it would be true single-payer, and that's understandable.Personally, I think it will be the business community that drives us to a single payer healthcare system. We know we only get things in this country if Big Corp wants them and single payer is great for businesses.Yes, taking the monkey off the back of American business would be a savings of both premiums and administrative dollars. That's a positive in an increasingly competitive global business environment.Employers shouldn't have anything to do with health care.
Expanding the current Medicare/Medicare Supplement/Medicare Advantage program to all would take a massive monkey off the back of American business.
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How big of monkey? I am thinking you are saying, cost. Say tomorrow all employer based insurance went away and everyone had to buy insurance on the marketplace, what do you think companies would do other then jump for joy? They wouldn't give the employees a dime, they would keep the savings for themselves.
Don't believe me? Companies are dropping employees from promised health care everyday due to retirement. Unions are even agreeing. When they do this does the company give one cent to help defray the cost they had previously promised to pay? Hell not they keep the savings all for themselves.
That all said, I still think it would be better if everyone went on the marketplace and cost was evened out.
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Plus, all the above would really mess with their infrastructure, and that's understandable too. When Medicare Advantage came out, the participating insurers were given help with that, so that might be an option.
The freaking system is up, running, and works. This whole issue is pretty frustrating.
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Yeah, I have no doubt about that. The monkey off their backs in this system would be the size of an ape.No doubt they're afraid that it would be true single-payer, and that's understandable.Personally, I think it will be the business community that drives us to a single payer healthcare system. We know we only get things in this country if Big Corp wants them and single payer is great for businesses.Yes, taking the monkey off the back of American business would be a savings of both premiums and administrative dollars. That's a positive in an increasingly competitive global business environment.Employers shouldn't have anything to do with health care.
Expanding the current Medicare/Medicare Supplement/Medicare Advantage program to all would take a massive monkey off the back of American business.
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How big of monkey? I am thinking you are saying, cost. Say tomorrow all employer based insurance went away and everyone had to buy insurance on the marketplace, what do you think companies would do other then jump for joy? They wouldn't give the employees a dime, they would keep the savings for themselves.
Don't believe me? Companies are dropping employees from promised health care everyday due to retirement. Unions are even agreeing. When they do this does the company give one cent to help defray the cost they had previously promised to pay? Hell not they keep the savings all for themselves.
That all said, I still think it would be better if everyone went on the marketplace and cost was evened out.
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Plus, all the above would really mess with their infrastructure, and that's understandable too. When Medicare Advantage came out, the participating insurers were given help with that, so that might be an option.
The freaking system is up, running, and works. This whole issue is pretty frustrating.
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You're speaking of insurance companies being opposed to single payer, but the REST of the business community will be the driver of the US towards a single payer-like system.
They will point to Canada, Mexico, Japan, etc and say "why should I do business in the US where I have to pay more for employee health care"?
Reduce your military spending to say the average of the next 5 top spenders, and everyone could probably get free health care.
Yup and everyone will be paying more for their benefits.
My benefit costs went up by 30% this year because of the ACA. Wonder what is on the horizon for next year?
And you can show how it was as a direct result of the ACA? Had your benefit costs ever gone up before?
Due to life choices and circumstances we are losing our employer provided health care. So I went to the healthcare.gov web site to look for plans. What I found is this.
1. The web site is extremely easy to use.
2. The cost, while high, is not nearly as expensive as it was when I looked into it when ACA became the law of the land.
3. Big penalty for making money and not having employer provided coverage.
Here is an example of what I found for 1 person first making 50,000 the second making 25000. Which seems to me to be affordable considering that car insurance might cost as much.
What I don't like is that the cost should be the same for everyone since it is required by the government to purchase. In other words make it a tax deduction, if it is not already.
What I am going to call about is if I can sign up the wife for one plan, using her income. And one plan for me using mine. I don't think this is the case.
Not cheap, but not as expensive as I thought and anyone should be able to navigate the site.
Still, employer sponsored health care is far cheaper and better.
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Due to life choices and circumstances we are losing our employer provided health care. So I went to the healthcare.gov web site to look for plans. What I found is this.
1. The web site is extremely easy to use.
2. The cost, while high, is not nearly as expensive as it was when I looked into it when ACA became the law of the land.
3. Big penalty for making money and not having employer provided coverage.
Here is an example of what I found for 1 person first making 50,000 the second making 25000. Which seems to me to be affordable considering that car insurance might cost as much.
What I don't like is that the cost should be the same for everyone since it is required by the government to purchase. In other words make it a tax deduction, if it is not already.
What I am going to call about is if I can sign up the wife for one plan, using her income. And one plan for me using mine. I don't think this is the case.
Not cheap, but not as expensive as I thought and anyone should be able to navigate the site.
Still, employer sponsored health care is far cheaper and better.
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those are not a very good plans
Yup and everyone will be paying more for their benefits.
My benefit costs went up by 30% this year because of the ACA. Wonder what is on the horizon for next year?
And you can show how it was as a direct result of the ACA? Had your benefit costs ever gone up before?
My benefits have gone up but not by 30% and the HR department is who advised all of us why costs were going up.
The only winners in the ACA are those the rest of us will be subsidizing.
Due to life choices and circumstances we are losing our employer provided health care. So I went to the healthcare.gov web site to look for plans. What I found is this.
1. The web site is extremely easy to use.
2. The cost, while high, is not nearly as expensive as it was when I looked into it when ACA became the law of the land.
3. Big penalty for making money and not having employer provided coverage.
Here is an example of what I found for 1 person first making 50,000 the second making 25000. Which seems to me to be affordable considering that car insurance might cost as much.
What I don't like is that the cost should be the same for everyone since it is required by the government to purchase. In other words make it a tax deduction, if it is not already.
What I am going to call about is if I can sign up the wife for one plan, using her income. And one plan for me using mine. I don't think this is the case.
Not cheap, but not as expensive as I thought and anyone should be able to navigate the site.
Still, employer sponsored health care is far cheaper and better.
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those are not a very good plans
I picked middle of the road, want better, pay more.
Free to the user, just go to Canada. Other countries as well.Reduce your military spending to say the average of the next 5 top spenders, and everyone could probably get free health care.
Non sequitur. There is no "free".
Due to life choices and circumstances we are losing our employer provided health care. So I went to the healthcare.gov web site to look for plans. What I found is this.
1. The web site is extremely easy to use.
2. The cost, while high, is not nearly as expensive as it was when I looked into it when ACA became the law of the land.
3. Big penalty for making money and not having employer provided coverage.
Here is an example of what I found for 1 person first making 50,000 the second making 25000. Which seems to me to be affordable considering that car insurance might cost as much.
What I don't like is that the cost should be the same for everyone since it is required by the government to purchase. In other words make it a tax deduction, if it is not already.
What I am going to call about is if I can sign up the wife for one plan, using her income. And one plan for me using mine. I don't think this is the case.
Not cheap, but not as expensive as I thought and anyone should be able to navigate the site.
Still, employer sponsored health care is far cheaper and better.
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those are not a very good plans
I picked middle of the road, want better, pay more.
Due to life choices and circumstances we are losing our employer provided health care. So I went to the healthcare.gov web site to look for plans. What I found is this.
1. The web site is extremely easy to use.
2. The cost, while high, is not nearly as expensive as it was when I looked into it when ACA became the law of the land.
3. Big penalty for making money and not having employer provided coverage.
Here is an example of what I found for 1 person first making 50,000 the second making 25000. Which seems to me to be affordable considering that car insurance might cost as much.
What I don't like is that the cost should be the same for everyone since it is required by the government to purchase. In other words make it a tax deduction, if it is not already.
What I am going to call about is if I can sign up the wife for one plan, using her income. And one plan for me using mine. I don't think this is the case.
Not cheap, but not as expensive as I thought and anyone should be able to navigate the site.
Still, employer sponsored health care is far cheaper and better.
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those are not a very good plans
I picked middle of the road, want better, pay more.
Back in the mid 2000s, I got a $2,000 deductible policy for only $67 per month. That was an affordable policy. Thanks to Obama care, those policies are illegal, and gone.
Due to life choices and circumstances we are losing our employer provided health care. So I went to the healthcare.gov web site to look for plans. What I found is this.
1. The web site is extremely easy to use.
2. The cost, while high, is not nearly as expensive as it was when I looked into it when ACA became the law of the land.
3. Big penalty for making money and not having employer provided coverage.
Here is an example of what I found for 1 person first making 50,000 the second making 25000. Which seems to me to be affordable considering that car insurance might cost as much.
What I don't like is that the cost should be the same for everyone since it is required by the government to purchase. In other words make it a tax deduction, if it is not already.
What I am going to call about is if I can sign up the wife for one plan, using her income. And one plan for me using mine. I don't think this is the case.
Not cheap, but not as expensive as I thought and anyone should be able to navigate the site.
Still, employer sponsored health care is far cheaper and better.
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Due to life choices and circumstances we are losing our employer provided health care. So I went to the healthcare.gov web site to look for plans. What I found is this.
1. The web site is extremely easy to use.
2. The cost, while high, is not nearly as expensive as it was when I looked into it when ACA became the law of the land.
3. Big penalty for making money and not having employer provided coverage.
Here is an example of what I found for 1 person first making 50,000 the second making 25000. Which seems to me to be affordable considering that car insurance might cost as much.
What I don't like is that the cost should be the same for everyone since it is required by the government to purchase. In other words make it a tax deduction, if it is not already.
What I am going to call about is if I can sign up the wife for one plan, using her income. And one plan for me using mine. I don't think this is the case.
Not cheap, but not as expensive as I thought and anyone should be able to navigate the site.
Still, employer sponsored health care is far cheaper and better.
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those are not a very good plans
I picked middle of the road, want better, pay more.
Back in the mid 2000s, I got a $2,000 deductible policy for only $67 per month. That was an affordable policy. Thanks to Obama care, those policies are illegal, and gone.
Considering inflation I bet the price for YOU alone is not that much higher.
Due to life choices and circumstances we are losing our employer provided health care. So I went to the healthcare.gov web site to look for plans. What I found is this.
1. The web site is extremely easy to use.
2. The cost, while high, is not nearly as expensive as it was when I looked into it when ACA became the law of the land.
3. Big penalty for making money and not having employer provided coverage.
Here is an example of what I found for 1 person first making 50,000 the second making 25000. Which seems to me to be affordable considering that car insurance might cost as much.
What I don't like is that the cost should be the same for everyone since it is required by the government to purchase. In other words make it a tax deduction, if it is not already.
What I am going to call about is if I can sign up the wife for one plan, using her income. And one plan for me using mine. I don't think this is the case.
Not cheap, but not as expensive as I thought and anyone should be able to navigate the site.
Still, employer sponsored health care is far cheaper and better.
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those are not a very good plans
I picked middle of the road, want better, pay more.
Back in the mid 2000s, I got a $2,000 deductible policy for only $67 per month. That was an affordable policy. Thanks to Obama care, those policies are illegal, and gone.
what's so great about a $5000 deductible? I remember when I was married our insurance was $2500 deductible. So basically you're now paying for everything OUT of pocket if you plan on reaching $5000 deductible.
Due to life choices and circumstances we are losing our employer provided health care. So I went to the healthcare.gov web site to look for plans. What I found is this.
1. The web site is extremely easy to use.
2. The cost, while high, is not nearly as expensive as it was when I looked into it when ACA became the law of the land.
3. Big penalty for making money and not having employer provided coverage.
Here is an example of what I found for 1 person first making 50,000 the second making 25000. Which seems to me to be affordable considering that car insurance might cost as much.
What I don't like is that the cost should be the same for everyone since it is required by the government to purchase. In other words make it a tax deduction, if it is not already.
What I am going to call about is if I can sign up the wife for one plan, using her income. And one plan for me using mine. I don't think this is the case.
Not cheap, but not as expensive as I thought and anyone should be able to navigate the site.
Still, employer sponsored health care is far cheaper and better.
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Don't forget....it hasn't been fully implemented yet, and we still have Doctors......wait till it kicks in and it becomes cheaper for businesses to drop their health coverage, and Doctors start leaving the field, retiring or people just don't become Doctors.........
