Added cost of $215.4 billion = 57 cents per gallon more above gas pump price hmmmmm

[merrill]

I see no reason for the military to defend USA investments abroad. They make enough money let them do it for themselves.

When investing abroad one must accept the risks. If USA oil were merely buying the oil instead of stealing it life would be more peaceful.

USA oil has been booted out in the past. That was the message.

Why should we pay $15.00 per gallon to support wealthy oil barons?

 

[JBG]

What if that money instead paid for What if that money instead paid for What if renewable energy technology and
jobs here at home?

National Priorities Project

That worked real well in New Brunswick, winter before last, when the wind turbines froze.

Seriously the think to do is allow drilling and fracking in far more places in the U.S. But it isn't only the U.S.'s access to oil that our armed forces are protecting. It's the whole world's. And the U.S. cannot isolate itself from the world if it's plunged into chaos.

 

[merrill]

What if that money instead paid for renewable energy technology and jobs here at home?

This would be a fiscal responsible investment for our future. The oil industry is profitable beyond belief and should stand on its' own. Now it is time to invest in new industries and stop supporting wealthy industries.

Keep in mind gasoline prices will never go down and will keep on increasing the cost of food for the dinner table.

Why not subsidize taxpayers instead of the oil industries? Yes give the big time oil subsidies back to the taxpayers or create new employment for the taxpayers. After all it was the USA government that created this massive unemployment.

Or use oil subsidy money to finance IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance which care for the uninsured and save tons of money for the currently insured.

OR send the subsidy money back to taxpayers in the way of a voucher to cover the cost of a Toyota Prius or similar vehicle. This would save taxpayers bundles of money and boost local economies.

 

[JBG]

What if that money instead paid for renewable energy technology and jobs here at home?

This would be a fiscally responsible investment for our future. The oil industry is profitable beyond belief and should stand on its' own. Now it is time to invest in new industries and stop supporting wealthy industries.

Fixed it.

Keep in mind gasoline prices will never go down and will keep on increasing the cost of food for the dinner table.

I guess you haven't been watching the pump. They've gone down quite a bit as well as up. Gasoline happens to be one of the few items that on regular occasions does decline in price.

 

[merrill]

What if that money instead paid for renewable energy technology and jobs here at home?

This would be a fiscally responsible investment for our future. The oil industry is profitable beyond belief and should stand on its' own. Now it is time to invest in new industries and stop supporting wealthy industries.

Fixed it.

Keep in mind gasoline prices will never go down and will keep on increasing the cost of food for the dinner table.

I guess you haven't been watching the pump. They've gone down quite a bit as well as up. Gasoline happens to be one of the few items that on regular occasions does decline in price.

Perhaps congress is feeding more subsidy money to the industry to present the facade.

How in world can USA consumers be saving money knowing billions upon billions of our tax dollars are subsidizing the bank accounts of wealthy oil barons?

Where exactly is the saving taking place?

 

[g5000]

What if that money instead paid for What if that money instead paid for What if
renewable energy technology and
jobs here at home?

I get the gist of the point. But I doubt any alternative energy source of sufficient capacity will be manufactured from components which are completely within the borders of the United States.

We will always have to spend money to keep the trade routes open.

 

[JBG]

How in world can USA consumers be saving money knowing billions upon billions of our tax dollars are subsidizing the bank accounts of wealthy oil barons?

Where exactly is the saving taking place?

Because it would cost far more to produce "alternative" energy. If it didn't it would be happening.

Note, fracking is largely being done by entities other than the major oil companies.

 

[healthmyths]

Well again.. the first problem is the error in how much DoD share of the budget which is 20% not nearly 30%.
That comes out to $689 Billion not $900 billion as you stated.

 

[Big Fitz]

The United States uses approximately 390 million gallons of
gasoline every day,a large proportion of which comes from
imported oil.

While the price fluctuates, the average price of
gasoline is about $2.65 per gallon.

There is an additional hidden cost to our gasoline –
something that isn’t included in the price at the pump.

The added cost is the $215.4 billion each year that the
U.S. military spends of our tax dollars to secure access
to imported energy.

This means, in addition to the $2.65/gallon
price of gasoline, we pay an extra $0.57
for each of the 142 billion gallons of
gasoline we use every year.

$215.4 billion represents nearly 30% of the federal defense
budget just to gain access to foreign energy. This is one
year’s worth of troops, weaponry, and most of the Iraq
war funded by taxpayer dollars.

What if that money instead paid for What if that money instead paid for What if
renewable energy technology and
jobs here at home?

National Priorities Project

what mode of transportation do ewe use? sunshine? or farts?

The average profit per gallon is approximately 8%. This usually falls between 20-30 cents per gallon. The average government tax is about 50-70 cents on the dollar depending on the state. And it never fluctuates day to day, month to month.

Who's profiteering here?

 

[zzzz]

The average profit per gallon is approximately 8%. This usually falls between 20-30 cents per gallon. The average government tax is about 50-70 cents on the dollar depending on the state. And it never fluctuates day to day, month to month.

Who's profiteering here?

The average state tax on a gallon is $0.2268. The Federal tax is $0.184 which makes the average tax $0.4108 per gallon. Washington State's tax is the highest at $0.375 a gallon while Georgia's is the lowest at $0.075

http://www.eia.gov/pub/oil_gas/petr..._marketin0.075g_monthly/current/pdf/enote.pdf

 

[CaughtInTheMid]

The United States uses approximately 390 million gallons of
gasoline every day,a large proportion of which comes from
imported oil.

While the price fluctuates, the average price of
gasoline is about $2.65 per gallon.

There is an additional hidden cost to our gasoline –
something that isn’t included in the price at the pump.

The added cost is the $215.4 billion each year that the
U.S. military spends of our tax dollars to secure access
to imported energy.

This means, in addition to the $2.65/gallon
price of gasoline, we pay an extra $0.57
for each of the 142 billion gallons of
gasoline we use every year.

$215.4 billion represents nearly 30% of the federal defense
budget just to gain access to foreign energy. This is one
year’s worth of troops, weaponry, and most of the Iraq
war funded by taxpayer dollars.

What if that money instead paid for What if that money instead paid for What if
renewable energy technology and
jobs here at home?

National Priorities Project

I thought almost all of our oil imports came from Canada.

U.S. Total Crude Oil and Products Imports

 

[merrill]

Street Ready Golf Carts are certainly one answer:

Golf Cart Accessories, Parts and Golf Carts from Buggies Unlimited | BuggiesUnlimited.com

 

[merrill]

Google Street Legal Golf Carts ( There are several brands available.... buy the one you love if any):

With over a decade of rising gasoline prices, golf carts aren't just for golfers anymore. Today's street legal golf carts are environmentally friendly and provide an affordable option for neighborhood transportation. At Moto Electric Vehicles, we have one of the most versatile inventories of low-speed electric vehicles in the country and offer nationwide delivery to your door. You can find our street legal golf carts used in campgrounds and resorts at the beach, the lake, in the mountains, throughout residential neighborhoods, or anywhere else you choose to go.

Unlike their predecessor, the street legal golf cart goes faster, has additional seating capacities and comes equipped with street-required safety features. Street legal golf carts are capable of 25 MPH speeds and, when properly equipped, can be operated on neighborhood streets and roadways with a posted speed limit of 35 MPH or less.


Moto Electric Vehicles

Moto Electric Vehicles is based in Jacksonville, Florida, but offers nationwide delivery and a full nationwide warranty on all street legal golf carts, low-speed vehicles (LSVs), neighborhood electric vehicles (NEVs), electric buses, ADA-approved shuttles, emergency service vehicles, traditional golf carts, low-speed delivery trucks and a variety of electric utility vehicles.

Please continue to browse our website and check out our fine inventory of street legal golf carts for sale. We stock all golf cart parts for any electric vehicle that we sell. For additional information regarding our flexible lease programs or other financing opportunities, use our site's "Live Chat" feature for a prompt online response or call us direct at (904) 247-1818 to speak directly with an experienced account representative.


Street-Legal Electric Vehicles

Street-legal electric vehicles from Moto Electric Vehicles make a perfect addition to any neighborhood or golf course community garage. The growth of communities with posted speed limits of 35 MPH or less has proven that the golf cart has applications well beyond those of hauling around a golfer's clubs. These days, everyone is getting in on the fun and efficiency of driving a street-legal electric vehicle.

The street legal golf cart provides a convenient and economical means of transportation for historic areas, beach communities, mountain resorts, medical facilities, university campuses, church complexes, municipal neighborhoods and golf course communities across the United States. Street legal golf carts are typically 4-passenger to 6-passenger low-speed electric vehicles but Moto Electric Vehicles also stocks traditional 2-passenger golf carts as well as 2-passenger street-legal electric vehicles.

The same rules that regulate the use of electric low-speed vehicles (LSVs) and neighborhood electric vehicles (NEVs) also apply to operating a street legal golf cart on public highways and private neighborhood streets. When compared to the conventional golf course cart, today's street legal electric vehicles are almost twice as fast. A street legal golf cart will allow you to cruise at 25 MPH on local roadways with a posted speed limit of 35 MPH or less.

At Moto Electric Vehicles, we've equipped thousands of owners with an environmentally-friendly alternative to more expensive fossil-fuel burning vehicles that provide transportation for the same day-to-day tasks. All street-legal electric vehicles feature a chassis with high-yield strength welded steel tubing with protective powder-coat paint. Most low-speed electric carts come in a variety of body colors to include white, blue and red.

 

[Big Fitz]

Google Street Legal Golf Carts ( There are several brands available.... buy the one you love if any):

With over a decade of rising gasoline prices, golf carts aren't just for golfers anymore. Today's street legal golf carts are environmentally friendly and provide an affordable option for neighborhood transportation. At Moto Electric Vehicles, we have one of the most versatile inventories of low-speed electric vehicles in the country and offer nationwide delivery to your door. You can find our street legal golf carts used in campgrounds and resorts at the beach, the lake, in the mountains, throughout residential neighborhoods, or anywhere else you choose to go.

Unlike their predecessor, the street legal golf cart goes faster, has additional seating capacities and comes equipped with street-required safety features. Street legal golf carts are capable of 25 MPH speeds and, when properly equipped, can be operated on neighborhood streets and roadways with a posted speed limit of 35 MPH or less.


Moto Electric Vehicles

Moto Electric Vehicles is based in Jacksonville, Florida, but offers nationwide delivery and a full nationwide warranty on all street legal golf carts, low-speed vehicles (LSVs), neighborhood electric vehicles (NEVs), electric buses, ADA-approved shuttles, emergency service vehicles, traditional golf carts, low-speed delivery trucks and a variety of electric utility vehicles.

Please continue to browse our website and check out our fine inventory of street legal golf carts for sale. We stock all golf cart parts for any electric vehicle that we sell. For additional information regarding our flexible lease programs or other financing opportunities, use our site's "Live Chat" feature for a prompt online response or call us direct at (904) 247-1818 to speak directly with an experienced account representative.


Street-Legal Electric Vehicles

Street-legal electric vehicles from Moto Electric Vehicles make a perfect addition to any neighborhood or golf course community garage. The growth of communities with posted speed limits of 35 MPH or less has proven that the golf cart has applications well beyond those of hauling around a golfer's clubs. These days, everyone is getting in on the fun and efficiency of driving a street-legal electric vehicle.

The street legal golf cart provides a convenient and economical means of transportation for historic areas, beach communities, mountain resorts, medical facilities, university campuses, church complexes, municipal neighborhoods and golf course communities across the United States. Street legal golf carts are typically 4-passenger to 6-passenger low-speed electric vehicles but Moto Electric Vehicles also stocks traditional 2-passenger golf carts as well as 2-passenger street-legal electric vehicles.

The same rules that regulate the use of electric low-speed vehicles (LSVs) and neighborhood electric vehicles (NEVs) also apply to operating a street legal golf cart on public highways and private neighborhood streets. When compared to the conventional golf course cart, today's street legal electric vehicles are almost twice as fast. A street legal golf cart will allow you to cruise at 25 MPH on local roadways with a posted speed limit of 35 MPH or less.

At Moto Electric Vehicles, we've equipped thousands of owners with an environmentally-friendly alternative to more expensive fossil-fuel burning vehicles that provide transportation for the same day-to-day tasks. All street-legal electric vehicles feature a chassis with high-yield strength welded steel tubing with protective powder-coat paint. Most low-speed electric carts come in a variety of body colors to include white, blue and red.

Every time I saw one of those damn 1200 lbs smart cars while driving my 66,000 lbs 60 foot articulated bus, and it cut me off, I always realized how suicidal those numb nuts must have been. Sad part is that even though it probably would never damage more than my bike rack, which was kinda flimsy aluminum, unless debris flew through the windshield, I'd barely slow down or have a chance to be injured as I would roll it into a candy wrapper ball and snap it off the highway like a finger, barely even slowing down.

Yeah... I think a street legal golf cart is a dumb idea.

 

[merrill]

Street legal carts can cost 2500 - 4000 on the low end. They are quiet and batteries can last up to 8 years.

Go out for dinner,on a date,run errands = new excitement

 

[editec]

The United States uses approximately 390 million gallons of
gasoline every day,a large proportion of which comes from
imported oil.

While the price fluctuates, the average price of
gasoline is about $2.65 per gallon.

There is an additional hidden cost to our gasoline –
something that isn’t included in the price at the pump.

The added cost is the $215.4 billion each year that the
U.S. military spends of our tax dollars to secure access
to imported energy.

This means, in addition to the $2.65/gallon
price of gasoline, we pay an extra $0.57
for each of the 142 billion gallons of
gasoline we use every year.

$215.4 billion represents nearly 30% of the federal defense
budget just to gain access to foreign energy. This is one
year’s worth of troops, weaponry, and most of the Iraq
war funded by taxpayer dollars.

What if that money instead paid for What if that money instead paid for What if
renewable energy technology and
jobs here at home?

National Priorities Project

Educate yourself

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mgfexus1&f=m


You apparently STILL think this gas and oil is OURS to do with as we please.

It isn't,

These resources are owned by the coporations and they don't give a flying fuck about the USA, laddie. They will sell that gas whereever the can make the most for it.

The USA's corporations EXPORTED 16,000 barrels of gasoline in Oct 2011.

The USA's corporation have been EXPORTING GASOLINE for a mighty long time.

Go read a book.

 

[merrill]

The United States uses approximately 390 million gallons of
gasoline every day,a large proportion of which comes from
imported oil.

While the price fluctuates, the average price of
gasoline is about $2.65 per gallon.

There is an additional hidden cost to our gasoline –
something that isn’t included in the price at the pump.

The added cost is the $215.4 billion each year that the
U.S. military spends of our tax dollars to secure access
to imported energy.

This means, in addition to the $2.65/gallon
price of gasoline, we pay an extra $0.57
for each of the 142 billion gallons of
gasoline we use every year.

$215.4 billion represents nearly 30% of the federal defense
budget just to gain access to foreign energy. This is one
year’s worth of troops, weaponry, and most of the Iraq
war funded by taxpayer dollars.

What if that money instead paid for What if that money instead paid for What if
renewable energy technology and
jobs here at home?

National Priorities Project

Educate yourself

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mgfexus1&f=m


You apparently STILL think this gas and oil is OURS to do with as we please.

It isn't,

These resources are owned by the coporations and they don't give a flying fuck about the USA, laddie. They will sell that gas whereever the can make the most for it.

The USA's corporations EXPORTED 16,000 barrels of gasoline in Oct 2011.

The USA's corporation have been EXPORTING GASOLINE for a mighty long time.

Go read a book.

A damn good reason to use the least gasoline possible such that a prius, bicycle, walking
or using public transportation would facilitate.

 

[Big Fitz]

Street legal carts can cost 2500 - 4000 on the low end. They are quiet and batteries can last up to 8 years.

Go out for dinner,on a date,run errands = new excitement

And since I must use a Highway to get to and from work, not to mention friends and relatives... these are useful to me how?

And how would that bad boy have helped me moved 300 miles? SOME people, it's a good idea. Everyone? Not so much. A montana rancher may be a little less interested in some toy like this.

Save money for a diminished lifestyle. No thank you.

 

[merrill]

Street legal carts can cost 2500 - 4000 on the low end. They are quiet and batteries can last up to 8 years.

Go out for dinner,on a date,run errands = new excitement

And since I must use a Highway to get to and from work, not to mention friends and relatives... these are useful to me how?

And how would that bad boy have helped me moved 300 miles? SOME people, it's a good idea. Everyone? Not so much. A montana rancher may be a little less interested in some toy like this.

Save money for a diminished lifestyle. No thank you.

The lions share of the USA population lives in cities and small towns. This is one of the perfect solutions.

 

[Big Fitz]

Street legal carts can cost 2500 - 4000 on the low end. They are quiet and batteries can last up to 8 years.

Go out for dinner,on a date,run errands = new excitement

And since I must use a Highway to get to and from work, not to mention friends and relatives... these are useful to me how?

And how would that bad boy have helped me moved 300 miles? SOME people, it's a good idea. Everyone? Not so much. A montana rancher may be a little less interested in some toy like this.

Save money for a diminished lifestyle. No thank you.

The lions share of the USA population lives in cities and small towns. This is one of the perfect solutions.

No, it's not 'one of the perfect solutions'. It is a rather poor solution limited to only areas of extreme urban density where distances traveled without much cargo is the majority of the travelling.

But if you live in a small town, where you have to travel 10-15 miles over to another town that has a store you want WITH family, because very few towns are 100% sufficient for their needs of daily life for the average family.

And this little golf cart is not going to haul a family of 4 or more with all their needs. Ever travel with small children across town? Heh, you've got snacks, and games and toys and distractions and car seats... This is NOT going to work in a golf cart. Nor is it going to work if you have 3 teenagers, particularly athletic boys who need all their equipment carried. It does not work in places where the winter temperature routinely dips below 20 degrees.

Yeah, Where I live right now in a city of 70k, I could possibly use one, save for the fact that it won't haul my family NOR can it hack -10 degree weather for 2 months out of the year OR the 90/90's of summer and function the way I want to have a decent quality of life.

Take the tech, apply it to standard distances and cargo needs, combined with your average NON IDYLLIC weather, and this solution is garbage for the most part and 90% of the population.

Oh and before you go on about 6 passenger golf carts.. I've ridden in them. They're a joke. Why don't cities have open side Trams hauling people back and forth instead of buses? Because they don't work on anything but a 'perfect' setting.