Acosta Proves Border Wall Works

[H B Lowrie]

No they are not. They are villifying the approach of "The Wall, The Wall, the Wall". Border security is more than just a wall. It's a lot more than the wall. And the Border Security is pretty damned good right now. Yes, it could be better but I would like for more moneyt be spend on boots on the ground and electronics. For instance, the United States Air Force has a surplus of Global Hawks. They are slowly being replaced by Predators which are armed. The Global Hawks have precision optics, can easily fly 350 mph cruise at a range of over 14,000 miles and can be controlled from anywhere on the face of the earth. They are surplus so Homeland Security can just appropriate them. With very little expenditure they can have a 1st class drone fleet that they only have to monitor, and only really have to fly it on landing and takeoff. Once it's on the correct heading and altitude, it goes on autopilot and the boot operator or operators monitor the cameras. One operator can handle more than one drone. One Global Hawk can do the work of a whole flightline full of Cessna 172s and do it faster, cheaper day or night. The Coast Guard loves them. Customs is already using the Reaper Drone which is a prop driven version and they are patrolling the Gulf and Oceans with it. This type of systems work. there is no reason that the Border Patrol can't use either of these to do the job of the Eyes in the Sky. Funny, 4 reapers are stationed by the Homeland in Arizona now. But they need more Reapers and if they could get their hands on the Global Hawks life would be good.

The problem is, they need more funding. for these programs for equipment, personnel and training. Over something like a the middle of a Desert in the dead of the night, either the Global Hawk or the Reaper can see just fine and pick humans up from quite a distance. People stand out like sore thumbs in the middle of a cooling down desert. So do motor vehicles. If they can aquire them surplus then they are much cheaper than any wall or fence in the middle of nowhere that isn't monitored full time. Trust me on this one, The border patrol is going to have plenty of time to be sitting just across the border waiting on them to cross the border and the illegal (by that time) immigrant won't be in any condition to resist after 2 or 3 days in that desert. If it can find a dug in Taliban it can find a Immigrant in the middle of a desert.

No one has ever claimed that the wall would replace all other border security measures. That's a snowflake diversion.

We need a wall. That's the bottom line. Drones can't stop a person. A wall can.

No, walls don't stop them. It just slows them down. Or they find creative ways to defeat it which also slows them down. What stops them is boots on the ground when they pick them up.

Spare us the horseshit. A wall that's guarded stops them cold:

Boots on the ground by themselves do not stop them. That's what the graph shows. No one has more boots on the ground than Israel. Their illegal border crossings didn't stop until they built the wall.

You keep spouting stuff that is just total horseshit.

How about some graphs and data from your own country?

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

Illegal Border Crossing Arrests Down 25 Percent From 2016
The Department of Homeland Security released its border security report for fiscal year 2017, which showed that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.
"Overall, removals are down because the border's under better control than it has been in 45 years," said Tom Homan, acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

New data released by DHS show that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.

Nice attempt at ignoring the data I posted. Post some data that proves walls don't work. You can't, of course. Even data from the US shows that walls do work.

There is no possible excuse for not funding the wall. None.

That's your argument hon. Fuck Israel, just say no to apartheid police states.

 

[jc456]

One of many reasons the left is going out of their way to discredit and vilify the Border Patrol.

No they are not. They are villifying the approach of "The Wall, The Wall, the Wall". Border security is more than just a wall. It's a lot more than the wall. And the Border Security is pretty damned good right now. Yes, it could be better but I would like for more moneyt be spend on boots on the ground and electronics. For instance, the United States Air Force has a surplus of Global Hawks. They are slowly being replaced by Predators which are armed. The Global Hawks have precision optics, can easily fly 350 mph cruise at a range of over 14,000 miles and can be controlled from anywhere on the face of the earth. They are surplus so Homeland Security can just appropriate them. With very little expenditure they can have a 1st class drone fleet that they only have to monitor, and only really have to fly it on landing and takeoff. Once it's on the correct heading and altitude, it goes on autopilot and the boot operator or operators monitor the cameras. One operator can handle more than one drone. One Global Hawk can do the work of a whole flightline full of Cessna 172s and do it faster, cheaper day or night. The Coast Guard loves them. Customs is already using the Reaper Drone which is a prop driven version and they are patrolling the Gulf and Oceans with it. This type of systems work. there is no reason that the Border Patrol can't use either of these to do the job of the Eyes in the Sky. Funny, 4 reapers are stationed by the Homeland in Arizona now. But they need more Reapers and if they could get their hands on the Global Hawks life would be good.

The problem is, they need more funding. for these programs for equipment, personnel and training. Over something like a the middle of a Desert in the dead of the night, either the Global Hawk or the Reaper can see just fine and pick humans up from quite a distance. People stand out like sore thumbs in the middle of a cooling down desert. So do motor vehicles. If they can aquire them surplus then they are much cheaper than any wall or fence in the middle of nowhere that isn't monitored full time. Trust me on this one, The border patrol is going to have plenty of time to be sitting just across the border waiting on them to cross the border and the illegal (by that time) immigrant won't be in any condition to resist after 2 or 3 days in that desert. If it can find a dug in Taliban it can find a Immigrant in the middle of a desert.

No one has ever claimed that the wall would replace all other border security measures. That's a snowflake diversion.

We need a wall. That's the bottom line. Drones can't stop a person. A wall can.

No, walls don't stop them. It just slows them down. Or they find creative ways to defeat it which also slows them down. What stops them is boots on the ground when they pick them up.

yes they do, with sensors the agents can be at the spot of the breach before the breach. without the wall, all the patrol agent does is hunt in the area in hopes of a find. they don't like that because that exposes them to death. it's why they asked for the wall.

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

Illegal Border Crossing Arrests Down 25 Percent From 2016
The Department of Homeland Security released its border security report for fiscal year 2017, which showed that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.
"Overall, removals are down because the border's under better control than it has been in 45 years," said Tom Homan, acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

New data released by DHS show that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.

trying to get to zero is the objective.

 

[BS Filter]

LOL okay so this Acosta retard goes down to the boarder and films a video next to a steel slat wall, and claims the wall isn't working because there are no illegals around. Thus proving the wall is effective. Now the poor guy is being mocked in social media without mercy.

CNN’s Jim Acosta mocked for accidentally proving that border walls work

In this video you'll see how they torch through the steel wall.



So I think the joke is on you--

they use dynamite on bank vaults, do we stop making those then?

These stupid shit Dem's and their deflections. I have a dead bolt on the front door of my house, it won't stop a chainsaw that's how utterly stupid these liberals are.

The

One of many reasons the left is going out of their way to discredit and vilify the Border Patrol.

No they are not. They are villifying the approach of "The Wall, The Wall, the Wall". Border security is more than just a wall. It's a lot more than the wall. And the Border Security is pretty damned good right now. Yes, it could be better but I would like for more moneyt be spend on boots on the ground and electronics. For instance, the United States Air Force has a surplus of Global Hawks. They are slowly being replaced by Predators which are armed. The Global Hawks have precision optics, can easily fly 350 mph cruise at a range of over 14,000 miles and can be controlled from anywhere on the face of the earth. They are surplus so Homeland Security can just appropriate them. With very little expenditure they can have a 1st class drone fleet that they only have to monitor, and only really have to fly it on landing and takeoff. Once it's on the correct heading and altitude, it goes on autopilot and the boot operator or operators monitor the cameras. One operator can handle more than one drone. One Global Hawk can do the work of a whole flightline full of Cessna 172s and do it faster, cheaper day or night. The Coast Guard loves them. Customs is already using the Reaper Drone which is a prop driven version and they are patrolling the Gulf and Oceans with it. This type of systems work. there is no reason that the Border Patrol can't use either of these to do the job of the Eyes in the Sky. Funny, 4 reapers are stationed by the Homeland in Arizona now. But they need more Reapers and if they could get their hands on the Global Hawks life would be good.

The problem is, they need more funding. for these programs for equipment, personnel and training. Over something like a the middle of a Desert in the dead of the night, either the Global Hawk or the Reaper can see just fine and pick humans up from quite a distance. People stand out like sore thumbs in the middle of a cooling down desert. So do motor vehicles. If they can aquire them surplus then they are much cheaper than any wall or fence in the middle of nowhere that isn't monitored full time. Trust me on this one, The border patrol is going to have plenty of time to be sitting just across the border waiting on them to cross the border and the illegal (by that time) immigrant won't be in any condition to resist after 2 or 3 days in that desert. If it can find a dug in Taliban it can find a Immigrant in the middle of a desert.

No one has ever claimed that the wall would replace all other border security measures. That's a snowflake diversion.

We need a wall. That's the bottom line. Drones can't stop a person. A wall can.

No, walls don't stop them. It just slows them down. Or they find creative ways to defeat it which also slows them down. What stops them is boots on the ground when they pick them up.

Spare us the horseshit. A wall that's guarded stops them cold:

Boots on the ground by themselves do not stop them. That's what the graph shows. No one has more boots on the ground than Israel. Their illegal border crossings didn't stop until they built the wall.

You keep spouting stuff that is just total horseshit.

Oh I do so hope we can become a police state like Israel, and we are well on our way, why the Israeli military is training our militarized police in population control and subjugation.

Why don't you move to Iran.

 

[H B Lowrie]

No they are not. They are villifying the approach of "The Wall, The Wall, the Wall". Border security is more than just a wall. It's a lot more than the wall. And the Border Security is pretty damned good right now. Yes, it could be better but I would like for more moneyt be spend on boots on the ground and electronics. For instance, the United States Air Force has a surplus of Global Hawks. They are slowly being replaced by Predators which are armed. The Global Hawks have precision optics, can easily fly 350 mph cruise at a range of over 14,000 miles and can be controlled from anywhere on the face of the earth. They are surplus so Homeland Security can just appropriate them. With very little expenditure they can have a 1st class drone fleet that they only have to monitor, and only really have to fly it on landing and takeoff. Once it's on the correct heading and altitude, it goes on autopilot and the boot operator or operators monitor the cameras. One operator can handle more than one drone. One Global Hawk can do the work of a whole flightline full of Cessna 172s and do it faster, cheaper day or night. The Coast Guard loves them. Customs is already using the Reaper Drone which is a prop driven version and they are patrolling the Gulf and Oceans with it. This type of systems work. there is no reason that the Border Patrol can't use either of these to do the job of the Eyes in the Sky. Funny, 4 reapers are stationed by the Homeland in Arizona now. But they need more Reapers and if they could get their hands on the Global Hawks life would be good.

The problem is, they need more funding. for these programs for equipment, personnel and training. Over something like a the middle of a Desert in the dead of the night, either the Global Hawk or the Reaper can see just fine and pick humans up from quite a distance. People stand out like sore thumbs in the middle of a cooling down desert. So do motor vehicles. If they can aquire them surplus then they are much cheaper than any wall or fence in the middle of nowhere that isn't monitored full time. Trust me on this one, The border patrol is going to have plenty of time to be sitting just across the border waiting on them to cross the border and the illegal (by that time) immigrant won't be in any condition to resist after 2 or 3 days in that desert. If it can find a dug in Taliban it can find a Immigrant in the middle of a desert.

No one has ever claimed that the wall would replace all other border security measures. That's a snowflake diversion.

We need a wall. That's the bottom line. Drones can't stop a person. A wall can.

No, walls don't stop them. It just slows them down. Or they find creative ways to defeat it which also slows them down. What stops them is boots on the ground when they pick them up.

Spare us the horseshit. A wall that's guarded stops them cold:

Boots on the ground by themselves do not stop them. That's what the graph shows. No one has more boots on the ground than Israel. Their illegal border crossings didn't stop until they built the wall.

You keep spouting stuff that is just total horseshit.

Oh I do so hope we can become a police state like Israel, and we are well on our way, why the Israeli military is training our militarized police in population control and subjugation.

Israel isn't a police state, moron. It's the only democracy in the Middle East. It even has socialized medicine, which numskulls like you are always raving about.

Israel is an apartheid police state and that's the power structures plan for america, the wall is part of the vision. Have you forgotten about big all intrusive govt?

• Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
• Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
• Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan

Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.

 

[BS Filter]

No one has ever claimed that the wall would replace all other border security measures. That's a snowflake diversion.

We need a wall. That's the bottom line. Drones can't stop a person. A wall can.

No, walls don't stop them. It just slows them down. Or they find creative ways to defeat it which also slows them down. What stops them is boots on the ground when they pick them up.

Spare us the horseshit. A wall that's guarded stops them cold:

Boots on the ground by themselves do not stop them. That's what the graph shows. No one has more boots on the ground than Israel. Their illegal border crossings didn't stop until they built the wall.

You keep spouting stuff that is just total horseshit.

How about some graphs and data from your own country?

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

Illegal Border Crossing Arrests Down 25 Percent From 2016
The Department of Homeland Security released its border security report for fiscal year 2017, which showed that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.
"Overall, removals are down because the border's under better control than it has been in 45 years," said Tom Homan, acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

New data released by DHS show that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.

Nice attempt at ignoring the data I posted. Post some data that proves walls don't work. You can't, of course. Even data from the US shows that walls do work.

There is no possible excuse for not funding the wall. None.

That's your argument hon. Fuck Israel, just say no to apartheid police states.

Iran is your cup of tea, huh.

 

[jc456]

No one has ever claimed that the wall would replace all other border security measures. That's a snowflake diversion.

We need a wall. That's the bottom line. Drones can't stop a person. A wall can.

No, walls don't stop them. It just slows them down. Or they find creative ways to defeat it which also slows them down. What stops them is boots on the ground when they pick them up.

Spare us the horseshit. A wall that's guarded stops them cold:

Boots on the ground by themselves do not stop them. That's what the graph shows. No one has more boots on the ground than Israel. Their illegal border crossings didn't stop until they built the wall.

You keep spouting stuff that is just total horseshit.

How about some graphs and data from your own country?

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

Illegal Border Crossing Arrests Down 25 Percent From 2016
The Department of Homeland Security released its border security report for fiscal year 2017, which showed that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.
"Overall, removals are down because the border's under better control than it has been in 45 years," said Tom Homan, acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

New data released by DHS show that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.

Nice attempt at ignoring the data I posted. Post some data that proves walls don't work. You can't, of course. Even data from the US shows that walls do work.

There is no possible excuse for not funding the wall. None.

That's your argument hon. Fuck Israel, just say no to apartheid police states.

Then you need to remove the locks on your doors. They don’t really protect you, ITG

 

[BS Filter]

No one has ever claimed that the wall would replace all other border security measures. That's a snowflake diversion.

We need a wall. That's the bottom line. Drones can't stop a person. A wall can.

No, walls don't stop them. It just slows them down. Or they find creative ways to defeat it which also slows them down. What stops them is boots on the ground when they pick them up.

Spare us the horseshit. A wall that's guarded stops them cold:

Boots on the ground by themselves do not stop them. That's what the graph shows. No one has more boots on the ground than Israel. Their illegal border crossings didn't stop until they built the wall.

You keep spouting stuff that is just total horseshit.

Oh I do so hope we can become a police state like Israel, and we are well on our way, why the Israeli military is training our militarized police in population control and subjugation.

Israel isn't a police state, moron. It's the only democracy in the Middle East. It even has socialized medicine, which numskulls like you are always raving about.

Israel is an apartheid police state and that's the power structures plan for america, the wall is part of the vision. Have you forgotten about big all intrusive govt?

• Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
• Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
• Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan

Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.

Bullshit. The Pals are pawns for the muslim thugs that run Iran.

 

[H B Lowrie]

No, walls don't stop them. It just slows them down. Or they find creative ways to defeat it which also slows them down. What stops them is boots on the ground when they pick them up.

Spare us the horseshit. A wall that's guarded stops them cold:

Boots on the ground by themselves do not stop them. That's what the graph shows. No one has more boots on the ground than Israel. Their illegal border crossings didn't stop until they built the wall.

You keep spouting stuff that is just total horseshit.

How about some graphs and data from your own country?

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

Illegal Border Crossing Arrests Down 25 Percent From 2016
The Department of Homeland Security released its border security report for fiscal year 2017, which showed that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.
"Overall, removals are down because the border's under better control than it has been in 45 years," said Tom Homan, acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

New data released by DHS show that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.

Nice attempt at ignoring the data I posted. Post some data that proves walls don't work. You can't, of course. Even data from the US shows that walls do work.

There is no possible excuse for not funding the wall. None.

That's your argument hon. Fuck Israel, just say no to apartheid police states.

Iran is your cup of tea, huh.

We don't seem to be able to live without them, odd huh.

 

[H B Lowrie]

No, walls don't stop them. It just slows them down. Or they find creative ways to defeat it which also slows them down. What stops them is boots on the ground when they pick them up.

Spare us the horseshit. A wall that's guarded stops them cold:

Boots on the ground by themselves do not stop them. That's what the graph shows. No one has more boots on the ground than Israel. Their illegal border crossings didn't stop until they built the wall.

You keep spouting stuff that is just total horseshit.

Oh I do so hope we can become a police state like Israel, and we are well on our way, why the Israeli military is training our militarized police in population control and subjugation.

Israel isn't a police state, moron. It's the only democracy in the Middle East. It even has socialized medicine, which numskulls like you are always raving about.

Israel is an apartheid police state and that's the power structures plan for america, the wall is part of the vision. Have you forgotten about big all intrusive govt?

• Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
• Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
• Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan

Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.

Bullshit. The Pals are pawns for the muslim thugs that run Iran.

We just stood by muslim thugs who liquified a journalist and routinely hold public square beheadings. We have no aversion to muslim thugs and we support 3/4's of the world's dictatorships. You can regurgitate the mantra if you like, but no, don't buy it, and as I say, now the Israelis are helping your govt control you, we the people. You are to to become Palestinianized on american soil. Watch. 20-30 years from now american will be a full on police state. Just do what you're doing, incrementalism takes a while. Please, please wall us in, we're so afraid.

 

[BS Filter]

Spare us the horseshit. A wall that's guarded stops them cold:

Boots on the ground by themselves do not stop them. That's what the graph shows. No one has more boots on the ground than Israel. Their illegal border crossings didn't stop until they built the wall.

You keep spouting stuff that is just total horseshit.

How about some graphs and data from your own country?

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

Illegal Border Crossing Arrests Down 25 Percent From 2016
The Department of Homeland Security released its border security report for fiscal year 2017, which showed that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.
"Overall, removals are down because the border's under better control than it has been in 45 years," said Tom Homan, acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

New data released by DHS show that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.

Nice attempt at ignoring the data I posted. Post some data that proves walls don't work. You can't, of course. Even data from the US shows that walls do work.

There is no possible excuse for not funding the wall. None.

That's your argument hon. Fuck Israel, just say no to apartheid police states.

Iran is your cup of tea, huh.

We don't seem to be able to live without them, odd huh.

So you support Iran?

 

[jc456]

Spare us the horseshit. A wall that's guarded stops them cold:

Boots on the ground by themselves do not stop them. That's what the graph shows. No one has more boots on the ground than Israel. Their illegal border crossings didn't stop until they built the wall.

You keep spouting stuff that is just total horseshit.

Oh I do so hope we can become a police state like Israel, and we are well on our way, why the Israeli military is training our militarized police in population control and subjugation.

Israel isn't a police state, moron. It's the only democracy in the Middle East. It even has socialized medicine, which numskulls like you are always raving about.

Israel is an apartheid police state and that's the power structures plan for america, the wall is part of the vision. Have you forgotten about big all intrusive govt?

• Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
• Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
• Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan

Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.

Bullshit. The Pals are pawns for the muslim thugs that run Iran.

We just stood by muslim thugs who liquified a journalist and routinely hold public square beheadings. We have no aversion to muslim thugs and we support 3/4's of the world's dictatorships. You can regurgitate the mantra if you like, but no, don't buy it, and as I say, now the Israelis are helping your govt control you, we the people. You are to to become Palestinianized on american soil. Watch. 20-30 years from now american will be a full on police state. Just do what you're doing, incrementalism takes a while. Please, please wall us in, we're so afraid.

And you don’t care an American cop was killed by an illegal in the cops own country. Thugs you like em ITG.

5 billion to try eliminating that in the future. We got it Muslim lover

 

[BS Filter]

Spare us the horseshit. A wall that's guarded stops them cold:

Boots on the ground by themselves do not stop them. That's what the graph shows. No one has more boots on the ground than Israel. Their illegal border crossings didn't stop until they built the wall.

You keep spouting stuff that is just total horseshit.

Oh I do so hope we can become a police state like Israel, and we are well on our way, why the Israeli military is training our militarized police in population control and subjugation.

Israel isn't a police state, moron. It's the only democracy in the Middle East. It even has socialized medicine, which numskulls like you are always raving about.

Israel is an apartheid police state and that's the power structures plan for america, the wall is part of the vision. Have you forgotten about big all intrusive govt?

• Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
• Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
• Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan

Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.

Bullshit. The Pals are pawns for the muslim thugs that run Iran.

We just stood by muslim thugs who liquified a journalist and routinely hold public square beheadings. We have no aversion to muslim thugs and we support 3/4's of the world's dictatorships. You can regurgitate the mantra if you like, but no, don't buy it, and as I say, now the Israelis are helping your govt control you, we the people. You are to to become Palestinianized on american soil. Watch. 20-30 years from now american will be a full on police state. Just do what you're doing, incrementalism takes a while. Please, please wall us in, we're so afraid.

Nice propaganda. So when you lock your doors at night, it's to lock you in?

 

[Siete]

WALLS WORK HUH ?

Watch Donald Trump's Inspiring Advice On Bypassing Massive Walls From Many Years Ago

apparently not - straight out of the horses ass ..

 

[H B Lowrie]

No, walls don't stop them. It just slows them down. Or they find creative ways to defeat it which also slows them down. What stops them is boots on the ground when they pick them up.

Spare us the horseshit. A wall that's guarded stops them cold:

Boots on the ground by themselves do not stop them. That's what the graph shows. No one has more boots on the ground than Israel. Their illegal border crossings didn't stop until they built the wall.

You keep spouting stuff that is just total horseshit.

How about some graphs and data from your own country?

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

Illegal Border Crossing Arrests Down 25 Percent From 2016
The Department of Homeland Security released its border security report for fiscal year 2017, which showed that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.
"Overall, removals are down because the border's under better control than it has been in 45 years," said Tom Homan, acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

New data released by DHS show that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.

Nice attempt at ignoring the data I posted. Post some data that proves walls don't work. You can't, of course. Even data from the US shows that walls do work.

There is no possible excuse for not funding the wall. None.

That's your argument hon. Fuck Israel, just say no to apartheid police states.

Then you need to remove the locks on your doors. They don’t really protect you, ITG

Is that a coherent argument or solution in the circles you travel in? Is sounds ridiculously childish to me. You're in more danger of being affected by violence every day when you send your kid(s) to school or being in a checkout line with one of these snowflakes who is so terrified of life that he straps on to go pick up a gallon of milk. I don't fear "illegals" because I live in a neurotic dysfunctional society surrounded by americans like you. Some a ya's are scared of your own shadows and think that if you are afraid, that's justification from murdering someone, even if they're unarmed.

And really now, we all participated in "illegals" being here, we liked the lower prices their labor afforded us all. Seems american style capitalism has never seen fit to wean itself off of a cheap source of labor it could exploit extra-legally; it runs constantly throughout our history.

Nope, free people do not beg power and concentrated wealth to wall them in inside a system like that.

 

[H B Lowrie]

Oh I do so hope we can become a police state like Israel, and we are well on our way, why the Israeli military is training our militarized police in population control and subjugation.

Israel isn't a police state, moron. It's the only democracy in the Middle East. It even has socialized medicine, which numskulls like you are always raving about.

Israel is an apartheid police state and that's the power structures plan for america, the wall is part of the vision. Have you forgotten about big all intrusive govt?

• Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
• Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
• Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan

Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.

Bullshit. The Pals are pawns for the muslim thugs that run Iran.

We just stood by muslim thugs who liquified a journalist and routinely hold public square beheadings. We have no aversion to muslim thugs and we support 3/4's of the world's dictatorships. You can regurgitate the mantra if you like, but no, don't buy it, and as I say, now the Israelis are helping your govt control you, we the people. You are to to become Palestinianized on american soil. Watch. 20-30 years from now american will be a full on police state. Just do what you're doing, incrementalism takes a while. Please, please wall us in, we're so afraid.

Nice propaganda. So when you lock your doors at night, it's to lock you in?

You're claiming we didn't just stand by muslim thugs who liquified a journalist and routinely hold public square beheadings? You're claiming that we have not partnered with muslim thugs like Osama, al Qaida, al Nusra, ISIS? You're claiming we do not support 3/4's of the world's dictatorships?

Well, anyone can read up on all of that if they're interested.

 

[BS Filter]

Israel isn't a police state, moron. It's the only democracy in the Middle East. It even has socialized medicine, which numskulls like you are always raving about.

Israel is an apartheid police state and that's the power structures plan for america, the wall is part of the vision. Have you forgotten about big all intrusive govt?

• Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
• Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
• Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan

Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.

Bullshit. The Pals are pawns for the muslim thugs that run Iran.

We just stood by muslim thugs who liquified a journalist and routinely hold public square beheadings. We have no aversion to muslim thugs and we support 3/4's of the world's dictatorships. You can regurgitate the mantra if you like, but no, don't buy it, and as I say, now the Israelis are helping your govt control you, we the people. You are to to become Palestinianized on american soil. Watch. 20-30 years from now american will be a full on police state. Just do what you're doing, incrementalism takes a while. Please, please wall us in, we're so afraid.

Nice propaganda. So when you lock your doors at night, it's to lock you in?

You're claiming we didn't just stand by muslim thugs who liquified a journalist and routinely hold public square beheadings? You're claiming that we have not partnered with muslim thugs like Osama, al Qaida, al Nusra, ISIS? You're claiming we do not support 3/4's of the world's dictatorships?

Well, anyone can read up on all of that if they're interested.

I don't deny that we have muslim allies. Do you agree with all of our allies? Of course not. We were allies with Communists in WWII because we had a common enemy. Saudi Arabia is our ally in the fight against Iran and terrorism. Of course we don't agree with public beheadings and such. I don't believe any of our leaders have told Saudi Arabia that we don't mind their cultural differences. Democrats had no problem with Saudi Arabia either.

 

[BluesLegend]

LOL okay so this Acosta retard goes down to the boarder and films a video next to a steel slat wall, and claims the wall isn't working because there are no illegals around. Thus proving the wall is effective. Now the poor guy is being mocked in social media without mercy.

CNN’s Jim Acosta mocked for accidentally proving that border walls work

In this video you'll see how they torch through the steel wall.



So I think the joke is on you--

they use dynamite on bank vaults, do we stop making those then?

These stupid shit Dem's and their deflections. I have a dead bolt on the front door of my house, it won't stop a chainsaw that's how utterly stupid these liberals are.

Why are people coming after you with chainsaws?

Are you trying to win the dumbest person on the internet award?

 

[H B Lowrie]

How about some graphs and data from your own country?

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

Illegal Border Crossing Arrests Down 25 Percent From 2016
The Department of Homeland Security released its border security report for fiscal year 2017, which showed that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.
"Overall, removals are down because the border's under better control than it has been in 45 years," said Tom Homan, acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

New data released by DHS show that Border Patrol arrests are at a 46-year low.

Nice attempt at ignoring the data I posted. Post some data that proves walls don't work. You can't, of course. Even data from the US shows that walls do work.

There is no possible excuse for not funding the wall. None.

That's your argument hon. Fuck Israel, just say no to apartheid police states.

Then you need to remove the locks on your doors. They don’t really protect you, ITG

Is that a coherent argument or solution in the circles you travel in? Is sounds ridiculously childish to me. You're in more danger of being affected by violence every day when you send your kid(s) to school or being in a checkout line with one of these snowflakes who is so terrified of life that he straps on to go pick up a gallon of milk. I don't fear "illegals" because I live in a neurotic dysfunctional society surrounded by americans like you. Some a ya's are scared of your own shadows and think that if you are afraid, that's justification from murdering someone, even if they're unarmed.

And really now, we all participated in "illegals" being here, we liked the lower prices their labor afforded us all. Seems american style capitalism has never seen fit to wean itself off of a cheap source of labor it could exploit extra-legally; it runs constantly throughout our history.

Nope, free people do not beg power and concentrated wealth to wall them in inside a system like that.

that is your argument, because a wall can be breached it is therefore no good to keep others out.

All the fences in backyards to keep the animals in, you say don't work.

Well a wall is like a door on a house, the lock is used to keep the public out for protection. You must think it is to keep you in?

And a lock can be breached, ergo, it doesn't work, so you should just remove it. your logic.

No darling, not "my" argument, that is merely the only argument you have what you consider to be a rebuttal for. Wouldn't you be happier running along and finding a poster who was making those arguments?

 

[H B Lowrie]

LOL okay so this Acosta retard goes down to the boarder and films a video next to a steel slat wall, and claims the wall isn't working because there are no illegals around. Thus proving the wall is effective. Now the poor guy is being mocked in social media without mercy.

CNN’s Jim Acosta mocked for accidentally proving that border walls work

In this video you'll see how they torch through the steel wall.



So I think the joke is on you--

they use dynamite on bank vaults, do we stop making those then?

These stupid shit Dem's and their deflections. I have a dead bolt on the front door of my house, it won't stop a chainsaw that's how utterly stupid these liberals are.

Why are people coming after you with chainsaws?

Are you trying to win the dumbest person on the internet award?

Don't be silly, that would be arrogant on my part. How can I compete with this type of thing?

These stupid shit Dem's and their deflections. I have a dead bolt on the front door of my house, it won't stop a chainsaw that's how utterly stupid these liberals are.

Partisanshitheads win hands down.

 

[BluesLegend]

In this video you'll see how they torch through the steel wall.



So I think the joke is on you--

they use dynamite on bank vaults, do we stop making those then?

These stupid shit Dem's and their deflections. I have a dead bolt on the front door of my house, it won't stop a chainsaw that's how utterly stupid these liberals are.

Why are people coming after you with chainsaws?

Are you trying to win the dumbest person on the internet award?

Don't be silly, that would be arrogant on my part. How can I compete with this type of thing?

These stupid shit Dem's and their deflections. I have a dead bolt on the front door of my house, it won't stop a chainsaw that's how utterly stupid these liberals are.

Partisanshitheads win hands down.

Here's you