Accused Oakland, CA Shooter: Glenn Beck 'Blew My Mind'

[Dick Tuck]

Er...elections don't preclude tyranny, genius. You can elect a tyrant. Obviously, you don't realize he's a tyrant when he's elected. Just because he's elected doesn't mean you have to tolerate tyranny, jackass. And we are obligated to move against tyranny. Have you ever read the Declaration?

Yes, and among the grievances listed by Jefferson was being without representation in Parliament.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

An election is consent of the governed in a constitutional democratic-republic.

That pretty much puts to the lie your garbage about tyranny, and how we are obligated to endure it if we elected the tyrant.

You're argument is alleybabble.

 

[AllieBaba]

And that's why your party is despised. You deny the rights of the people to dictate to our representative government, and you believe once elected, officials are sacrosanct.

We have the right to overthrow the government. Just because people are elected doesn't mean we're stuck with them, if they are behaving in a way contrary to the will of the people.

 

[California Girl]

You think that's a joke? It's not.

^^^^^^^Case and point with Big Red here.

Although Beck didn't "Do" this himself, and really can't be "Blamed" for it, he and the rest of the RW propaganda machine do have a profound effect on people who are really, really, really stupid.

There is no evidence that the sign you accept as 'evidence' is genuine.

I have yet to see anyone on the left produce any evidence of all these claims about Beck et al

 

[AllieBaba]

They haven't. It's just lies because they don't have any other way to shut up those who speak against the tyranny of the left.

 

[Cuyo]

You think that's a joke? It's not.

^^^^^^^Case and point with Big Red here.

Although Beck didn't "Do" this himself, and really can't be "Blamed" for it, he and the rest of the RW propaganda machine do have a profound effect on people who are really, really, really stupid.

There is no evidence that the sign you accept as 'evidence' is genuine.

I have yet to see anyone on the left produce any evidence of all these claims about Beck et al

My post was re: Big Red. Whether or not the sign is genuine is not relevant.

 

[Dick Tuck]

And that's why your party is despised. You deny the rights of the people to dictate to our representative government, and you believe once elected, officials are sacrosanct.

We have the right to overthrow the government. Just because people are elected doesn't mean we're stuck with them, if they are behaving in a way contrary to the will of the people.

That's exactly the point I made in the OP. Williams sound like any other run of the mill tea bagger.

 

[Dick Tuck]

They haven't. It's just lies because they don't have any other way to shut up those who speak against the tyranny of the left.

Who wants to shut you up? I'm pretty content that the radical right is snarling itself into incohesion. The more you yuck it up about armed insurrection, the easier it is for the American people to recognize what fringe whackos you are.

 

[Dick Tuck]

That can mean one of two things...

Either

1. You didn't understand the attribution of both violence and the suggestions that one engage in violence by the left, and by the highest elected left wing politicians in the nation...

or

2. That the post totally deflated the bias of your OP, and you were too devious, and, yes..too chagrined, to admit it...i.e. that you are a libeal.

So.....which is it?

3. that your post is all fucked up.

4. You're a fucking douchebag and can't read...

Yet, you're the one of the gullible rubes who got punked in this post: http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...er-glenn-beck-blew-my-mind-2.html#post2833001

 

[Dick Tuck]

You think that's a joke? It's not.

Americans have the Constitutional Right to overthrow their government.

And, as Dr House has so brilliantly pointed out, pictures can no longer be accepted at face value.

You accepted this post at face value. Getting owned by a noob...priceless.

 

[topspin]

It's a short drive to get a tea bagger to go nuts, and they all have multiple guns.

 

[konradv]

Yes this is how bad things are in this country. The Socialists/Progressives have brought such misery to our nation. They're not only driving people to drink but they're also driving people to shoot. Vote all Democrats out in November. Save our country. Make 2010 count people.

Oh boy, here we go...., again!!!

 

[Two Thumbs]

Normally, it would be easy to write this guy off as a kook, but in today's society, he sounds like a basic tea bagger.

Accused Oakland, CA Shooter: Glenn Beck 'Blew My Mind'

In audio interviews obtained by MediaMatters, accused shooter Byron Williams says Fox News host Glenn Beck "blew my mind" with "the things he exposed."

Williams is charged with allegedly opening fire on police on Interstate 580 in Oakland, California, while on his way to "start a revolution" by attacking members of the ACLU and the Tides Foundation. As we've reported, the Tides Foundation is a favorite punching bag of Glenn Beck's, and he counts the group among his cabal of liberals aiming to bring socialism to America.

In the audio, Williams says that he looks at Beck "more like a schoolteacher" than a newscaster, and that he began watching Fox News just to see Beck:

And it was the things that he did, it was the things he exposed that blew my mind. Beck would never say anything about a conspiracy, would never advocate violence, he'll never do anything like, of this nature, but he'll give you every ounce of evidence that you could possibly need.​

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoTpLr-mBLc&feature=player_embedded

Trolling.

So much for personal responsibility.

 

[Two Thumbs]

It's a short drive to get a tea bagger to go nuts, and they all have multiple guns.

How many TEA party members do you know?

And how do you know they all have guns, multiple guns?

 

[Dick Tuck]

Normally, it would be easy to write this guy off as a kook, but in today's society, he sounds like a basic tea bagger.

Accused Oakland, CA Shooter: Glenn Beck 'Blew My Mind'

In audio interviews obtained by MediaMatters, accused shooter Byron Williams says Fox News host Glenn Beck "blew my mind" with "the things he exposed."

Williams is charged with allegedly opening fire on police on Interstate 580 in Oakland, California, while on his way to "start a revolution" by attacking members of the ACLU and the Tides Foundation. As we've reported, the Tides Foundation is a favorite punching bag of Glenn Beck's, and he counts the group among his cabal of liberals aiming to bring socialism to America.

In the audio, Williams says that he looks at Beck "more like a schoolteacher" than a newscaster, and that he began watching Fox News just to see Beck:

And it was the things that he did, it was the things he exposed that blew my mind. Beck would never say anything about a conspiracy, would never advocate violence, he'll never do anything like, of this nature, but he'll give you every ounce of evidence that you could possibly need.​

...​

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoTpLr-mBLc&feature=player_embedded

Trolling.

So much for personal responsibility.

Who is blaming anyone other than Williams for his rampage. My point is that he sounds more like the rank and file tea baggers, than a fringe loon. The tea baggers on this thread demonstrate that point very well.

 

[AllieBaba]

They haven't. It's just lies because they don't have any other way to shut up those who speak against the tyranny of the left.

Who wants to shut you up? I'm pretty content that the radical right is snarling itself into incohesion. The more you yuck it up about armed insurrection, the easier it is for the American people to recognize what fringe whackos you are.

In case you haven't noticed...you are the fringe whackos. The majority of the American people feel exactly as I do. And pretending it's otherwise won't make it so. It just makes you look like elitist retards.

 

[AllieBaba]

It's a short drive to get a tea bagger to go nuts, and they all have multiple guns.

How many TEA party members do you know?

And how do you know they all have guns, multiple guns?

The only violence at tea party demonstrations have been perpetrated by loony lefties. it's a (useless) scare tactic they're using to try to convince people that tea partiers are "scary" . It's what they do when the majority is against them. They lie and try to spread fear.

 

[topspin]

It's a short drive to get a tea bagger to go nuts, and they all have multiple guns.

How many TEA party members do you know?

And how do you know they all have guns, multiple guns?

How many tea baggers do you know, and how many only have one gun?

 

[newpolitics]

I knew Beck's toxic leakage of mouth was eventually going to translate into actual violence, or almost-violence, had this guy gotten to San Fran. I hate Glen Beck, with a passion.

 

[newpolitics]

They haven't. It's just lies because they don't have any other way to shut up those who speak against the tyranny of the left.

Who wants to shut you up? I'm pretty content that the radical right is snarling itself into incohesion. The more you yuck it up about armed insurrection, the easier it is for the American people to recognize what fringe whackos you are.

In case you haven't noticed...you are the fringe whackos. The majority of the American people feel exactly as I do. And pretending it's otherwise won't make it so. It just makes you look like elitist retards.

You are very wrong about that. Pretty much everyone I ever talk to, thinks that the right is full of complete whackos, and I live in New york city, work in a restaurant, play in a rock band... I talk to a lot of people. Conservatives with this level of fanaticism are surely a fringe minority. If that weren't the case, and you were infact a majority, I would flee this country to avoid being brainwashed into something I hate.

 

[Dick Tuck]

They haven't. It's just lies because they don't have any other way to shut up those who speak against the tyranny of the left.

Who wants to shut you up? I'm pretty content that the radical right is snarling itself into incohesion. The more you yuck it up about armed insurrection, the easier it is for the American people to recognize what fringe whackos you are.

In case you haven't noticed...you are the fringe whackos. The majority of the American people feel exactly as I do. And pretending it's otherwise won't make it so. It just makes you look like elitist retards.

Except if I lose at the polls, I'm not going to run around screaming for armed insurrection, and pretend it's a constitutional right.