According to Most Libs, Fox News Lies.........

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    So please, if you can cite one (and you should be able to if you've made this assertion), then post one of those lies in this thread that Fox News has broadcast.

    Not affiliates....

    Fox News, national.

    Post away !!

    This should be as entertaining as watching Dan Rather lie.... or Katie Couric getting fired, or MSNBC's ratings.
     
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    Slookie, it's more that they market themselves as a legitimate news source, where in fact they're an extremely biased opinion source that can scarcely be described as "News." But if you want to search for actual 'Lies,' they are readily accessible via any search engine.

    Here's a few to get you started.
    10 Most Ridiculous Fox News Lies, Creative Edits, and Half-Truths - Spiteful Critic
     
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    You're fucking kidding with this, right?

    Still waiting...

    Anyone else?
     
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    For one, the whole death panel bullshit. Steve Dooshbag and friends.. along with the ever so hawt Megyn Kelly.. and all the other FNC anchors, ran that line during the whole health care debate. And never once did they mention that the individual mandate was a Heritage Foundation idea.. and was the conservative response to a single-payer system.

    I guess it's more selectively reporting and editing more than lying.. but they've certainly done their share of that too.
     
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    The whole death panel thing?
    Are you fucking serious too?

    When was this "LIE" broadcast on Fox News? Who was the anchor or reporter? And Megyn Kelly is NOT an anchor - dumb ass.

    And you mention "they've done their share" of lying?

    Going to cite some examples, or are you going to blather along with your opinions...
     
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    They repetedly labeled republicans as democrats when there was a rash of republicans trying to fuck aides or suck someone off in an airport bathroom.

    They did it over and over.

    BTW what the hell do you think affiliate means?
     
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    affiliate: Definition, Synonyms from Answers.com






    American Heritage Dictionary:
    af·fil·i·ate


    (ə-fĭl'ē-āt')

    v., -at·ed, -at·ing, -ates.

    v.tr.
    1.To adopt or accept as a member, subordinate associate, or branch: The HMO affiliated the clinics last year.
    2.To associate (oneself) as a subordinate, subsidiary, employee, or member: affiliated herself with a new law firm.
    3.To assign the origin of.
    v.intr.
    To become closely connected or associated: The two unions voted to affiliate.



    Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/affiliate#ixzz1McV7vR4A
     
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    Those aren't outright lies. That's just standard operating procedure for news outlets, regardless of political bias.
     
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    Shreddy, this from your link...
    "When the false "death panel" rumors started in August of 2009, Fox News reported on a supposed, "death book" by the Veterans Health Administration. In liu of actual reporting, they fanned the death panel flames by promoting a number of falsehoods that would have been cleared up had they actually read the thing."



    Exhibit A. Last year, bureaucrats at the VA's National Center for Ethics in Health Care advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, "Your Life, Your Choices." It was first published in 1997 and later promoted as the VA's preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes. After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues, the VA suspended its use. Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated "Your Life, Your Choices."

    Who is the primary author of this workbook? Dr. Robert Pearlman, chief of ethics evaluation for the center, a man who in 1996 advocated for physician-assisted suicide in Vacco v. Quill before the U.S. Supreme Court and is known for his support of health-care rationing.

    "Your Life, Your Choices" presents end-of-life choices in a way aimed at steering users toward predetermined conclusions, much like a political "push poll." For example, a worksheet on page 21 lists various scenarios and asks users to then decide whether their own life would be "not worth living."

    There also are guilt-inducing scenarios such as "I can no longer contribute to my family's well being," "I am a severe financial burden on my family" and that the vet's situation "causes severe emotional burden for my family."

    When the government can steer vulnerable individuals to conclude for themselves that life is not worth living, who needs a death panel?

    This hurry-up-and-die message is clear and unconscionable. Worse, a July 2009 VA directive instructs its primary care physicians to raise advance care planning with all VA patients and to refer them to "Your Life, Your Choices." Not just those of advanced age and debilitated condition—all patients. America's 24 million veterans deserve better.
    Jim Towey: The Death Book for Veterans - WSJ.com

    Exhibit B. Interviewed on Fox News Sunday, August 23, 2009 Jim Towey by Chris Wallace. The following were from my notes on the interview:

    1. The Department of Veterans Affairs has promoted as the VA's preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes to direct veterans, all 24 million, with whom it comes in contact- elderly or not- to a booklet called “Your Life, Your Choice.” A July 2009 VA directive instructs its primary care physicians to raise advance care planning with all VA patients and to refer them to "Your Life, Your Choices."

    2. The booklet presents end-of-life choices in a way aimed at steering users toward predetermined conclusions, much like a political "push poll." For example, a worksheet on page 21 lists various scenarios and asks users to then decide whether their own life would be "not worth living."

    3. Are you unable to shake the ‘blues’? Are you disabled? Are you in a nursing home? Are you confined to a wheelchair? Are you an emotional burden for your family? Can you control your bladder? Bowels? Do you need kidney dialysis to keep you alive?

    4. One can only imagine a soldier surviving the war in Iraq and returning without all of his limbs only to encounter a veteran's health-care system that seems intent on his demise. The government, with a financial stake in reducing the cost of veterans care, tries to steer vulnerable individuals into believing that their lives are not worth living.

    5. When the government can steer vulnerable individuals to conclude for themselves that life is not worth living, who needs a death panel? When revised 2007-2008, only one organization was listed in the new version as a resource on advance directives: the Hemlock Society (now euphemistically known as "Compassion and Choices").

    6. The Bush Administration suspended the use of this booklet, and the Obama Administration reinstated it July 2, 2009 and tells providers to refer to it.

    7. The main author of the booklet, was. Dr. Robert Pearlman, chief of ethics evaluation for the center, a man who in 1996 advocated for physician-assisted suicide in Vacco v. Quill before the U.S. Supreme Court and is known for his support of health-care rationing. His research has explored euthanasia, the role of quality of life in decision-making, the validity of life-sustaining treatment preferences, medical futility, advance care planning, physician-assisted suicide, and relief of patient suffering.

    8.The booklet can be found at Page Not Found

    How about we assume that your link is just as flawed on the other nine examples?
     
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    I'm about to destroy the essence of your post, the same with your understanding of the 'death panel' question...

    ...the only question is how many millenia it will take for you to accept same.


    "[Liberal] Economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman says the only way the U.S. will get its debt crisis under control is by the use of "death panels" and a national sales tax.

    The national sales tax, referred to as value-added tax (VAT), which governments across Europe use widely, will help cut the U.S deficit, Krugman argues.

    Krugman made his comments on ABC's “This Week with Christiane Amanpour” during a roundtable discussion about the economy and the recent findings of the U.S. Debt Reduction Commission.

    Here's the key excerpt:

    "Some years down the pike, we're going to get the real solution, which is going to be a combination of death panels and sales taxes. It's going to be that we're actually going to take Medicare under control, and we're going to have to get some additional revenue, probably from a VAT. But it's not going to happen now." Krugman: Death Panels, VAT Will Fix Debt Crisis
     

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