A Young Woman Stoned for Adultery

[MaryL]

What has happened to this young girl in Afghanistan is wrong. The motive for her execution was religious yet not of God. This is not God condemning a young woman to death for her sins but rather a group of misguided, religious zealots who are blind to their own wretched, naked, sinful condition.

It's kind of unfair to post an alleged story and picture that has no link at all. How do we know you didn't just make this up?

Anyway from the little there is here I don't see any indication that this was a religious act. It looks more like an "honor killing" which is a socio-cultural custom. But most of the OP is rambling on and on about Jesus, and there's little to nothing about this event. If it even IS an event.

Please, how naive or gullible can you get? Killing an unarmed person like that, is pure evil. Like Nazis shooting unarmed Jews or Hutus hacking to death innocent Tutis, ENOUGH! No rationalizations, no excuses, ENOUGH!

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Thanks for the fake history lesson.

Here's a real one:

Isn't this the one from the registered hate group?

There's no such thing as a registered hate group, moron.

And don't be cutting out the vid cos you're afraid people will see the truth. Here ya go again, little lady....

 

[Pogo]

What has happened to this young girl in Afghanistan is wrong. The motive for her execution was religious yet not of God. This is not God condemning a young woman to death for her sins but rather a group of misguided, religious zealots who are blind to their own wretched, naked, sinful condition.

It's kind of unfair to post an alleged story and picture that has no link at all. How do we know you didn't just make this up?

Anyway from the little there is here I don't see any indication that this was a religious act. It looks more like an "honor killing" which is a socio-cultural custom. But most of the OP is rambling on and on about Jesus, and there's little to nothing about this event. If it even IS an event.

Please, how naive or gullible can you get? Killing an unarmed person like that, is pure evil. Like Nazis shooting unarmed Jews or Hutus hacking to death innocent Tutis, ENOUGH! No rationalizations, no excuses, ENOUGH!

Of course it is. That has absolutely zero to do with the problem of citing a story with no reference, which did not exist in the OP at the time. Having seen my post, she came back and supplied one, as did others.

None of that has anything to do with a value judgment on the act itself.

This all happened weeks ago by now btw....

 

[irosie91]

What has happened to this young girl in Afghanistan is wrong. The motive for her execution was religious yet not of God. This is not God condemning a young woman to death for her sins but rather a group of misguided, religious zealots who are blind to their own wretched, naked, sinful condition.

It's kind of unfair to post an alleged story and picture that has no link at all. How do we know you didn't just make this up?

Anyway from the little there is here I don't see any indication that this was a religious act. It looks more like an "honor killing" which is a socio-cultural custom. But most of the OP is rambling on and on about Jesus, and there's little to nothing about this event. If it even IS an event.

Please, how naive or gullible can you get? Killing an unarmed person like that, is pure evil. Like Nazis shooting unarmed Jews or Hutus hacking to death innocent Tutis, ENOUGH! No rationalizations, no excuses, ENOUGH!

calm down all. ISLAMIC law includes a very elaborate legal system which
includes COURTS AND TRIALS. The young girl was brought to court----
tried and sentenced to death by a REAL JUDGE (qadi) The "Qadi" is an
expert in koranic law. It is not an "honor' killing-----it is a JUDICIAL EXECUTION-------just like an electric chair thing in the USA. Pogo knows that-----(he cannot
as utterly ignorant as he claims. People in Iran are also given
the benefit of trial and a judge-----same is true in Saudi arabia-----very elaborate
court system----not all that much different from our own. Pogo's claim that it is
just an "honor killing"<<<<something everyone does------is bullshit. It is ISLAM

 

[Pogo]

What has happened to this young girl in Afghanistan is wrong. The motive for her execution was religious yet not of God. This is not God condemning a young woman to death for her sins but rather a group of misguided, religious zealots who are blind to their own wretched, naked, sinful condition.

It's kind of unfair to post an alleged story and picture that has no link at all. How do we know you didn't just make this up?

Anyway from the little there is here I don't see any indication that this was a religious act. It looks more like an "honor killing" which is a socio-cultural custom. But most of the OP is rambling on and on about Jesus, and there's little to nothing about this event. If it even IS an event.

Please, how naive or gullible can you get? Killing an unarmed person like that, is pure evil. Like Nazis shooting unarmed Jews or Hutus hacking to death innocent Tutis, ENOUGH! No rationalizations, no excuses, ENOUGH!

calm down all. ISLAMIC law includes a very elaborate legal system which
includes COURTS AND TRIALS. The young girl was brought to court----
tried and sentenced to death by a REAL JUDGE (qadi) The "Qadi" is an
expert in koranic law. It is not an "honor' killing-----it is a JUDICIAL EXECUTION-------just like an electric chair thing in the USA. Pogo knows that-----(he cannot
as utterly ignorant as he claims. People in Iran are also given
the benefit of trial and a judge-----same is true in Saudi arabia-----very elaborate
court system----not all that much different from our own. Pogo's claim that it is
just an "honor killing"<<<<something everyone does------is bullshit. It is ISLAM

Bullshit.

The article supplied notes nothing of the kind. It does however note that the victim's "crime" was eloping, which means taking her own course in her own marriage, which is a classic "honor killing" model. It's a challenge to the psychotically insecure patriarchy that came up with this shit -- thousands of years ago, way before Islam or any other modern religion -- because a woman taking her own course in her own marriage is a challenge to that control issue they have.

That control issue --- the "honor" of the community's men displaying that the community's women are under their (the men's) control --- is a social construct, not a religious one. Allah doesn't give a shit who she marries. It's meaningless to anyone outside that community.

And the incident -- and I've reminded you of this before -- was in Afghanistan ... not Iran.

 

[irosie91]

What has happened to this young girl in Afghanistan is wrong. The motive for her execution was religious yet not of God. This is not God condemning a young woman to death for her sins but rather a group of misguided, religious zealots who are blind to their own wretched, naked, sinful condition.

It's kind of unfair to post an alleged story and picture that has no link at all. How do we know you didn't just make this up?

Anyway from the little there is here I don't see any indication that this was a religious act. It looks more like an "honor killing" which is a socio-cultural custom. But most of the OP is rambling on and on about Jesus, and there's little to nothing about this event. If it even IS an event.

Please, how naive or gullible can you get? Killing an unarmed person like that, is pure evil. Like Nazis shooting unarmed Jews or Hutus hacking to death innocent Tutis, ENOUGH! No rationalizations, no excuses, ENOUGH!

calm down all. ISLAMIC law includes a very elaborate legal system which
includes COURTS AND TRIALS. The young girl was brought to court----
tried and sentenced to death by a REAL JUDGE (qadi) The "Qadi" is an
expert in koranic law. It is not an "honor' killing-----it is a JUDICIAL EXECUTION-------just like an electric chair thing in the USA. Pogo knows that-----(he cannot
as utterly ignorant as he claims. People in Iran are also given
the benefit of trial and a judge-----same is true in Saudi arabia-----very elaborate
court system----not all that much different from our own. Pogo's claim that it is
just an "honor killing"<<<<something everyone does------is bullshit. It is ISLAM

Bullshit.

The article supplied notes nothing of the kind. It does however note that the victim's "crime" was eloping, which means taking her own course in her own marriage, which is a classic "honor killing" model. It's a challenge to the psychotically insecure patriarchy that came up with this shit -- thousands of years ago, way before Islam or any other modern religion -- because a woman taking her own course in her own marriage is a challenge to that control issue they have. That control issue --- the "honor" of the community's men displaying that the community's women are under their (the men's) control --- is a social construct, not a religious one.

And the incident -- and I've reminded you of this before -- was in Afghanistan ... not Iran.

I commented on KORANIC LAW------not Iran vs Afghanistan-----The woman was CONVICTED BY A REAL COURT OF LAW COMPLETE WITH A LEARNED
JUDGE------she was not murdered by an angry relative. You are missing the
entire point-----because YOU WANT TO. A conviction by a real court of law is
not called an "HONOR KILLING" regardless of the origins of those laws. Your
sophistry is truly Idiotic Iran functions on SHARIAH LAW too.

 

[Pogo]

What has happened to this young girl in Afghanistan is wrong. The motive for her execution was religious yet not of God. This is not God condemning a young woman to death for her sins but rather a group of misguided, religious zealots who are blind to their own wretched, naked, sinful condition.

It's kind of unfair to post an alleged story and picture that has no link at all. How do we know you didn't just make this up?

Anyway from the little there is here I don't see any indication that this was a religious act. It looks more like an "honor killing" which is a socio-cultural custom. But most of the OP is rambling on and on about Jesus, and there's little to nothing about this event. If it even IS an event.

Please, how naive or gullible can you get? Killing an unarmed person like that, is pure evil. Like Nazis shooting unarmed Jews or Hutus hacking to death innocent Tutis, ENOUGH! No rationalizations, no excuses, ENOUGH!

calm down all. ISLAMIC law includes a very elaborate legal system which
includes COURTS AND TRIALS. The young girl was brought to court----
tried and sentenced to death by a REAL JUDGE (qadi) The "Qadi" is an
expert in koranic law. It is not an "honor' killing-----it is a JUDICIAL EXECUTION-------just like an electric chair thing in the USA. Pogo knows that-----(he cannot
as utterly ignorant as he claims. People in Iran are also given
the benefit of trial and a judge-----same is true in Saudi arabia-----very elaborate
court system----not all that much different from our own. Pogo's claim that it is
just an "honor killing"<<<<something everyone does------is bullshit. It is ISLAM

Bullshit.

The article supplied notes nothing of the kind. It does however note that the victim's "crime" was eloping, which means taking her own course in her own marriage, which is a classic "honor killing" model. It's a challenge to the psychotically insecure patriarchy that came up with this shit -- thousands of years ago, way before Islam or any other modern religion -- because a woman taking her own course in her own marriage is a challenge to that control issue they have. That control issue --- the "honor" of the community's men displaying that the community's women are under their (the men's) control --- is a social construct, not a religious one.

And the incident -- and I've reminded you of this before -- was in Afghanistan ... not Iran.

I commented on KORANIC LAW------not Iran vs Afghanistan-----The woman was CONVICTED BY A REAL COURT OF LAW COMPLETE WITH A LEARNED
JUDGE------she was not murdered by an angry relative. You are missing the
entire point-----because YOU WANT TO. A conviction by a real court of law is
not called an "HONOR KILLING" regardless of the origins of those laws. Your
sophistry is truly Idiotic Iran functions on SHARIAH LAW too.

And where is any of that in the article?



Exactly.

You have any clue what I mean by the distinction between the local community and the religion?
If this were a religious motive, then a Muslim in, say, Bangladesh or Indonesia or Tunisia should all be equally incensed that this girl eloped.

They're not. Why is that?

Because it's got nothing to do with them, that's why. It's a community thing. It's a social value. A primitive and barbaric one, but that's where it lives. The only thing that's been offended is the "honor" of the males IN THAT COMMUNITY who think they're supposed to have "control" over her. That means nothing to a Muslim in Ankara or Casablanca.

 

[irosie91]

It's kind of unfair to post an alleged story and picture that has no link at all. How do we know you didn't just make this up?

Anyway from the little there is here I don't see any indication that this was a religious act. It looks more like an "honor killing" which is a socio-cultural custom. But most of the OP is rambling on and on about Jesus, and there's little to nothing about this event. If it even IS an event.

Please, how naive or gullible can you get? Killing an unarmed person like that, is pure evil. Like Nazis shooting unarmed Jews or Hutus hacking to death innocent Tutis, ENOUGH! No rationalizations, no excuses, ENOUGH!

calm down all. ISLAMIC law includes a very elaborate legal system which
includes COURTS AND TRIALS. The young girl was brought to court----
tried and sentenced to death by a REAL JUDGE (qadi) The "Qadi" is an
expert in koranic law. It is not an "honor' killing-----it is a JUDICIAL EXECUTION-------just like an electric chair thing in the USA. Pogo knows that-----(he cannot
as utterly ignorant as he claims. People in Iran are also given
the benefit of trial and a judge-----same is true in Saudi arabia-----very elaborate
court system----not all that much different from our own. Pogo's claim that it is
just an "honor killing"<<<<something everyone does------is bullshit. It is ISLAM

Bullshit.

The article supplied notes nothing of the kind. It does however note that the victim's "crime" was eloping, which means taking her own course in her own marriage, which is a classic "honor killing" model. It's a challenge to the psychotically insecure patriarchy that came up with this shit -- thousands of years ago, way before Islam or any other modern religion -- because a woman taking her own course in her own marriage is a challenge to that control issue they have. That control issue --- the "honor" of the community's men displaying that the community's women are under their (the men's) control --- is a social construct, not a religious one.

And the incident -- and I've reminded you of this before -- was in Afghanistan ... not Iran.

I commented on KORANIC LAW------not Iran vs Afghanistan-----The woman was CONVICTED BY A REAL COURT OF LAW COMPLETE WITH A LEARNED
JUDGE------she was not murdered by an angry relative. You are missing the
entire point-----because YOU WANT TO. A conviction by a real court of law is
not called an "HONOR KILLING" regardless of the origins of those laws. Your
sophistry is truly Idiotic Iran functions on SHARIAH LAW too.

And where is any of that in the article?



Exactly.

You have any clue what I mean by the distinction between the local community and the religion?
If this were a religious motive, then a Muslim in, say, Bangladesh or Indonesia or Tunisia should all be equally incensed that this girl eloped.

They're not. Why is that?

Because it's got nothing to do with them, that's why. It's a community thing. It's a social value. A primitive and barbaric one, but that's where it lives. The only thing that's been offended is the "honor" of the males IN THAT COMMUNITY who think they're supposed to have "control" over her. That means nothing to a Muslim in Ankara or Casablanca.

Bullshit-------you are now claiming that the QADI is a piece of shit and does not
adjudicate-----he just licks local ass. You issue a GENERAL STATEMENT
denigrating muslim koranic scholar judges

 

[Pogo]

Please, how naive or gullible can you get? Killing an unarmed person like that, is pure evil. Like Nazis shooting unarmed Jews or Hutus hacking to death innocent Tutis, ENOUGH! No rationalizations, no excuses, ENOUGH!

calm down all. ISLAMIC law includes a very elaborate legal system which
includes COURTS AND TRIALS. The young girl was brought to court----
tried and sentenced to death by a REAL JUDGE (qadi) The "Qadi" is an
expert in koranic law. It is not an "honor' killing-----it is a JUDICIAL EXECUTION-------just like an electric chair thing in the USA. Pogo knows that-----(he cannot
as utterly ignorant as he claims. People in Iran are also given
the benefit of trial and a judge-----same is true in Saudi arabia-----very elaborate
court system----not all that much different from our own. Pogo's claim that it is
just an "honor killing"<<<<something everyone does------is bullshit. It is ISLAM

Bullshit.

The article supplied notes nothing of the kind. It does however note that the victim's "crime" was eloping, which means taking her own course in her own marriage, which is a classic "honor killing" model. It's a challenge to the psychotically insecure patriarchy that came up with this shit -- thousands of years ago, way before Islam or any other modern religion -- because a woman taking her own course in her own marriage is a challenge to that control issue they have. That control issue --- the "honor" of the community's men displaying that the community's women are under their (the men's) control --- is a social construct, not a religious one.

And the incident -- and I've reminded you of this before -- was in Afghanistan ... not Iran.

I commented on KORANIC LAW------not Iran vs Afghanistan-----The woman was CONVICTED BY A REAL COURT OF LAW COMPLETE WITH A LEARNED
JUDGE------she was not murdered by an angry relative. You are missing the
entire point-----because YOU WANT TO. A conviction by a real court of law is
not called an "HONOR KILLING" regardless of the origins of those laws. Your
sophistry is truly Idiotic Iran functions on SHARIAH LAW too.

And where is any of that in the article?



Exactly.

You have any clue what I mean by the distinction between the local community and the religion?
If this were a religious motive, then a Muslim in, say, Bangladesh or Indonesia or Tunisia should all be equally incensed that this girl eloped.

They're not. Why is that?

Because it's got nothing to do with them, that's why. It's a community thing. It's a social value. A primitive and barbaric one, but that's where it lives. The only thing that's been offended is the "honor" of the males IN THAT COMMUNITY who think they're supposed to have "control" over her. That means nothing to a Muslim in Ankara or Casablanca.

Bullshit-------you are now claiming that the QADI is a piece of shit and does not
adjudicate-----he just licks local ass. You issue a GENERAL STATEMENT
denigrating muslim koranic scholar judges

I didn't even bring up "qadi" --- YOU did. It isn't in the article at all.

 

[irosie91]

calm down all. ISLAMIC law includes a very elaborate legal system which
includes COURTS AND TRIALS. The young girl was brought to court----
tried and sentenced to death by a REAL JUDGE (qadi) The "Qadi" is an
expert in koranic law. It is not an "honor' killing-----it is a JUDICIAL EXECUTION-------just like an electric chair thing in the USA. Pogo knows that-----(he cannot
as utterly ignorant as he claims. People in Iran are also given
the benefit of trial and a judge-----same is true in Saudi arabia-----very elaborate
court system----not all that much different from our own. Pogo's claim that it is
just an "honor killing"<<<<something everyone does------is bullshit. It is ISLAM

Bullshit.

The article supplied notes nothing of the kind. It does however note that the victim's "crime" was eloping, which means taking her own course in her own marriage, which is a classic "honor killing" model. It's a challenge to the psychotically insecure patriarchy that came up with this shit -- thousands of years ago, way before Islam or any other modern religion -- because a woman taking her own course in her own marriage is a challenge to that control issue they have. That control issue --- the "honor" of the community's men displaying that the community's women are under their (the men's) control --- is a social construct, not a religious one.

And the incident -- and I've reminded you of this before -- was in Afghanistan ... not Iran.

I commented on KORANIC LAW------not Iran vs Afghanistan-----The woman was CONVICTED BY A REAL COURT OF LAW COMPLETE WITH A LEARNED
JUDGE------she was not murdered by an angry relative. You are missing the
entire point-----because YOU WANT TO. A conviction by a real court of law is
not called an "HONOR KILLING" regardless of the origins of those laws. Your
sophistry is truly Idiotic Iran functions on SHARIAH LAW too.

And where is any of that in the article?



Exactly.

You have any clue what I mean by the distinction between the local community and the religion?
If this were a religious motive, then a Muslim in, say, Bangladesh or Indonesia or Tunisia should all be equally incensed that this girl eloped.

They're not. Why is that?

Because it's got nothing to do with them, that's why. It's a community thing. It's a social value. A primitive and barbaric one, but that's where it lives. The only thing that's been offended is the "honor" of the males IN THAT COMMUNITY who think they're supposed to have "control" over her. That means nothing to a Muslim in Ankara or Casablanca.

Bullshit-------you are now claiming that the QADI is a piece of shit and does not
adjudicate-----he just licks local ass. You issue a GENERAL STATEMENT
denigrating muslim koranic scholar judges

I didn't even bring up "qadi" --- YOU did. It isn't in the article at all.

the whole world is in the article?------Qadi simply means JUDGE in Arabic------
it what the judge is called in a shariah court--------why is this an issue for you?

that which people in turkey "believe" is in the article? A girl in Afghanistan was found guilty in a COURT OF LAW ----by a judge or a sexual indiscretion in accordance with SHARIAH LAW and sentenced to be stoned---<<<<<that is the
article. You call a court sentence an "honor killing"

 

[Pogo]

Bullshit.

The article supplied notes nothing of the kind. It does however note that the victim's "crime" was eloping, which means taking her own course in her own marriage, which is a classic "honor killing" model. It's a challenge to the psychotically insecure patriarchy that came up with this shit -- thousands of years ago, way before Islam or any other modern religion -- because a woman taking her own course in her own marriage is a challenge to that control issue they have. That control issue --- the "honor" of the community's men displaying that the community's women are under their (the men's) control --- is a social construct, not a religious one.

And the incident -- and I've reminded you of this before -- was in Afghanistan ... not Iran.

I commented on KORANIC LAW------not Iran vs Afghanistan-----The woman was CONVICTED BY A REAL COURT OF LAW COMPLETE WITH A LEARNED
JUDGE------she was not murdered by an angry relative. You are missing the
entire point-----because YOU WANT TO. A conviction by a real court of law is
not called an "HONOR KILLING" regardless of the origins of those laws. Your
sophistry is truly Idiotic Iran functions on SHARIAH LAW too.

And where is any of that in the article?



Exactly.

You have any clue what I mean by the distinction between the local community and the religion?
If this were a religious motive, then a Muslim in, say, Bangladesh or Indonesia or Tunisia should all be equally incensed that this girl eloped.

They're not. Why is that?

Because it's got nothing to do with them, that's why. It's a community thing. It's a social value. A primitive and barbaric one, but that's where it lives. The only thing that's been offended is the "honor" of the males IN THAT COMMUNITY who think they're supposed to have "control" over her. That means nothing to a Muslim in Ankara or Casablanca.

Bullshit-------you are now claiming that the QADI is a piece of shit and does not
adjudicate-----he just licks local ass. You issue a GENERAL STATEMENT
denigrating muslim koranic scholar judges

I didn't even bring up "qadi" --- YOU did. It isn't in the article at all.

the whole world is in the article?------Qadi simply means JUDGE in Arabic------
it what the judge is called in a shariah court--------why is this an issue for you?

that which people in turkey "believe" is in the article? A girl in Afghanistan was found guilty in a COURT OF LAW ----by a judge or a sexual indiscretion in accordance with SHARIAH LAW and sentenced to be stoned---<<<<<that is the
article. You call a court sentence an "honor killing"

For at least the 8th time now -- NONE of that is in the article. You're just making it up and wasting my time. Grow up.

 

[irosie91]

I commented on KORANIC LAW------not Iran vs Afghanistan-----The woman was CONVICTED BY A REAL COURT OF LAW COMPLETE WITH A LEARNED
JUDGE------she was not murdered by an angry relative. You are missing the
entire point-----because YOU WANT TO. A conviction by a real court of law is
not called an "HONOR KILLING" regardless of the origins of those laws. Your
sophistry is truly Idiotic Iran functions on SHARIAH LAW too.

And where is any of that in the article?



Exactly.

You have any clue what I mean by the distinction between the local community and the religion?
If this were a religious motive, then a Muslim in, say, Bangladesh or Indonesia or Tunisia should all be equally incensed that this girl eloped.

They're not. Why is that?

Because it's got nothing to do with them, that's why. It's a community thing. It's a social value. A primitive and barbaric one, but that's where it lives. The only thing that's been offended is the "honor" of the males IN THAT COMMUNITY who think they're supposed to have "control" over her. That means nothing to a Muslim in Ankara or Casablanca.

Bullshit-------you are now claiming that the QADI is a piece of shit and does not
adjudicate-----he just licks local ass. You issue a GENERAL STATEMENT
denigrating muslim koranic scholar judges

I didn't even bring up "qadi" --- YOU did. It isn't in the article at all.

the whole world is in the article?------Qadi simply means JUDGE in Arabic------
it what the judge is called in a shariah court--------why is this an issue for you?

that which people in turkey "believe" is in the article? A girl in Afghanistan was found guilty in a COURT OF LAW ----by a judge or a sexual indiscretion in accordance with SHARIAH LAW and sentenced to be stoned---<<<<<that is the
article. You call a court sentence an "honor killing"

For at least the 8th time now -- NONE of that is in the article. You're just making it up and wasting my time. Grow up.

that "stuff" is not in the article because anybody who knows anything knows
that stoning of people is a sentence pronounced in SHARIAH COURTS
The afghani people are not dogs-------they are human beings----they have
shariah courts----and have had them for more than 1000 years you disgusting slob.
Afghanistan is not a wilderness of unwashed monkeys-------it has a very LONG
HISTORY------Kabul was -----in the past A CULTURAL CENTER OF THE EAST
harboring ------hindus and then Buddhists-----Jews, Christians and sometime
later invaded by Moghuls. There were giant universities there-------scholars
and all that stuff. It was once an outpost of the PERSIAN EMPIRE too,
You like to present it as a place of utterly ignorant unwashed illiterate
apes with 'primitive' culture. Ever meet an AFGHANI? (Afghanistan also
had courts long before the moghuls got there and imposed islam)

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It's kind of unfair to post an alleged story and picture that has no link at all. How do we know you didn't just make this up?

Anyway from the little there is here I don't see any indication that this was a religious act. It looks more like an "honor killing" which is a socio-cultural custom. But most of the OP is rambling on and on about Jesus, and there's little to nothing about this event. If it even IS an event.

Please, how naive or gullible can you get? Killing an unarmed person like that, is pure evil. Like Nazis shooting unarmed Jews or Hutus hacking to death innocent Tutis, ENOUGH! No rationalizations, no excuses, ENOUGH!

calm down all. ISLAMIC law includes a very elaborate legal system which
includes COURTS AND TRIALS. The young girl was brought to court----
tried and sentenced to death by a REAL JUDGE (qadi) The "Qadi" is an
expert in koranic law. It is not an "honor' killing-----it is a JUDICIAL EXECUTION-------just like an electric chair thing in the USA. Pogo knows that-----(he cannot
as utterly ignorant as he claims. People in Iran are also given
the benefit of trial and a judge-----same is true in Saudi arabia-----very elaborate
court system----not all that much different from our own. Pogo's claim that it is
just an "honor killing"<<<<something everyone does------is bullshit. It is ISLAM

Bullshit.

The article supplied notes nothing of the kind. It does however note that the victim's "crime" was eloping, which means taking her own course in her own marriage, which is a classic "honor killing" model. It's a challenge to the psychotically insecure patriarchy that came up with this shit -- thousands of years ago, way before Islam or any other modern religion -- because a woman taking her own course in her own marriage is a challenge to that control issue they have. That control issue --- the "honor" of the community's men displaying that the community's women are under their (the men's) control --- is a social construct, not a religious one.

And the incident -- and I've reminded you of this before -- was in Afghanistan ... not Iran.

I commented on KORANIC LAW------not Iran vs Afghanistan-----The woman was CONVICTED BY A REAL COURT OF LAW COMPLETE WITH A LEARNED
JUDGE------she was not murdered by an angry relative. You are missing the
entire point-----because YOU WANT TO. A conviction by a real court of law is
not called an "HONOR KILLING" regardless of the origins of those laws. Your
sophistry is truly Idiotic Iran functions on SHARIAH LAW too.

And where is any of that in the article?



Exactly.

You have any clue what I mean by the distinction between the local community and the religion?
If this were a religious motive, then a Muslim in, say, Bangladesh or Indonesia or Tunisia should all be equally incensed that this girl eloped.

They're not. Why is that?

Because it's got nothing to do with them, that's why. It's a community thing. It's a social value. A primitive and barbaric one, but that's where it lives. The only thing that's been offended is the "honor" of the males IN THAT COMMUNITY who think they're supposed to have "control" over her. That means nothing to a Muslim in Ankara or Casablanca.

Correct.

Those with an unwarranted hostility toward Islam are attempting – and failing – to conflate cultural practices that existed long before the advent of Islam with Islam.

 

[Pogo]

And where is any of that in the article?



Exactly.

You have any clue what I mean by the distinction between the local community and the religion?
If this were a religious motive, then a Muslim in, say, Bangladesh or Indonesia or Tunisia should all be equally incensed that this girl eloped.

They're not. Why is that?

Because it's got nothing to do with them, that's why. It's a community thing. It's a social value. A primitive and barbaric one, but that's where it lives. The only thing that's been offended is the "honor" of the males IN THAT COMMUNITY who think they're supposed to have "control" over her. That means nothing to a Muslim in Ankara or Casablanca.

Bullshit-------you are now claiming that the QADI is a piece of shit and does not
adjudicate-----he just licks local ass. You issue a GENERAL STATEMENT
denigrating muslim koranic scholar judges

I didn't even bring up "qadi" --- YOU did. It isn't in the article at all.

the whole world is in the article?------Qadi simply means JUDGE in Arabic------
it what the judge is called in a shariah court--------why is this an issue for you?

that which people in turkey "believe" is in the article? A girl in Afghanistan was found guilty in a COURT OF LAW ----by a judge or a sexual indiscretion in accordance with SHARIAH LAW and sentenced to be stoned---<<<<<that is the
article. You call a court sentence an "honor killing"

For at least the 8th time now -- NONE of that is in the article. You're just making it up and wasting my time. Grow up.

that "stuff" is not in the article because anybody who knows anything knows
that stoning of people is a sentence pronounced in SHARIAH COURTS
The afghani people are not dogs-------they are human beings----they have
shariah courts----and have had them for more than 1000 years you disgusting slob.
Afghanistan is not a wilderness of unwashed monkeys-------it has a very LONG
HISTORY------Kabul was -----in the past A CULTURAL CENTER OF THE EAST
harboring ------hindus and then Buddhists-----Jews, Christians and sometime
later invaded by Moghuls. There were giant universities there-------scholars
and all that stuff. It was once an outpost of the PERSIAN EMPIRE too,
You like to present it as a place of utterly ignorant unwashed illiterate
apes with 'primitive' culture. Ever meet an AFGHANI? (Afghanistan also
had courts long before the moghuls got there and imposed islam)

So now you're falling back on the old "everybody knows" fallacy. Finally admitting the article says no such thing, yet you know better, from your barcalounger in East Jipip.

You're a complete waste of time, bent on selling ignorance. It baffles me who you think would be buying. Good luck, it ain't gonna be me.

 

[irosie91]

Please, how naive or gullible can you get? Killing an unarmed person like that, is pure evil. Like Nazis shooting unarmed Jews or Hutus hacking to death innocent Tutis, ENOUGH! No rationalizations, no excuses, ENOUGH!

calm down all. ISLAMIC law includes a very elaborate legal system which
includes COURTS AND TRIALS. The young girl was brought to court----
tried and sentenced to death by a REAL JUDGE (qadi) The "Qadi" is an
expert in koranic law. It is not an "honor' killing-----it is a JUDICIAL EXECUTION-------just like an electric chair thing in the USA. Pogo knows that-----(he cannot
as utterly ignorant as he claims. People in Iran are also given
the benefit of trial and a judge-----same is true in Saudi arabia-----very elaborate
court system----not all that much different from our own. Pogo's claim that it is
just an "honor killing"<<<<something everyone does------is bullshit. It is ISLAM

Bullshit.

The article supplied notes nothing of the kind. It does however note that the victim's "crime" was eloping, which means taking her own course in her own marriage, which is a classic "honor killing" model. It's a challenge to the psychotically insecure patriarchy that came up with this shit -- thousands of years ago, way before Islam or any other modern religion -- because a woman taking her own course in her own marriage is a challenge to that control issue they have. That control issue --- the "honor" of the community's men displaying that the community's women are under their (the men's) control --- is a social construct, not a religious one.

And the incident -- and I've reminded you of this before -- was in Afghanistan ... not Iran.

I commented on KORANIC LAW------not Iran vs Afghanistan-----The woman was CONVICTED BY A REAL COURT OF LAW COMPLETE WITH A LEARNED
JUDGE------she was not murdered by an angry relative. You are missing the
entire point-----because YOU WANT TO. A conviction by a real court of law is
not called an "HONOR KILLING" regardless of the origins of those laws. Your
sophistry is truly Idiotic Iran functions on SHARIAH LAW too.

And where is any of that in the article?



Exactly.

You have any clue what I mean by the distinction between the local community and the religion?
If this were a religious motive, then a Muslim in, say, Bangladesh or Indonesia or Tunisia should all be equally incensed that this girl eloped.

They're not. Why is that?

Because it's got nothing to do with them, that's why. It's a community thing. It's a social value. A primitive and barbaric one, but that's where it lives. The only thing that's been offended is the "honor" of the males IN THAT COMMUNITY who think they're supposed to have "control" over her. That means nothing to a Muslim in Ankara or Casablanca.

Correct.

Those with an unwarranted hostility toward Islam are attempting – and failing – to conflate cultural practices that existed long before the advent of Islam with Islam.

A shariah court adjudicates in accordance with ISLAM--------it IS islam----ie koranic law. The judge (qadi) in a shariah court is a recognized scholar of koranic law----that is how he gets to be the JUDGE (qadi) Long ago there were jews in Kabul and other parts of Afghanistan-----in fact one of the most famous early TALMUDIC
SCHOLARS was from Afghanistan-------there were Yeshivas there----if he acted
as a JUDGE in a jewish court "bet din" he would adjudicate in accordance with
jewish law--------such courts DID exist in Afghanistan for many many centuries.
An interesting factoid------the most prominent time of jewish scholarship in Afghanistan existed before the inception of islam-------and its most famous
scholar was one RABBI ISHMAEL-------once islam came about----"Ishmael"
as a given name------fell out of favor

 

[irosie91]

Pogo----did you ever meet an afghani? I did ----long ago------about 45 years ago---
a doctor who attended medical school in Afghanistan-------you should really get over
your concept that the afghanis are a bunch of illiterate monkeys working on primitive
local stuff because they have no real history or culture or ANYTHING

 

[irosie91]

Please, how naive or gullible can you get? Killing an unarmed person like that, is pure evil. Like Nazis shooting unarmed Jews or Hutus hacking to death innocent Tutis, ENOUGH! No rationalizations, no excuses, ENOUGH!

calm down all. ISLAMIC law includes a very elaborate legal system which
includes COURTS AND TRIALS. The young girl was brought to court----
tried and sentenced to death by a REAL JUDGE (qadi) The "Qadi" is an
expert in koranic law. It is not an "honor' killing-----it is a JUDICIAL EXECUTION-------just like an electric chair thing in the USA. Pogo knows that-----(he cannot
as utterly ignorant as he claims. People in Iran are also given
the benefit of trial and a judge-----same is true in Saudi arabia-----very elaborate
court system----not all that much different from our own. Pogo's claim that it is
just an "honor killing"<<<<something everyone does------is bullshit. It is ISLAM

Bullshit.

The article supplied notes nothing of the kind. It does however note that the victim's "crime" was eloping, which means taking her own course in her own marriage, which is a classic "honor killing" model. It's a challenge to the psychotically insecure patriarchy that came up with this shit -- thousands of years ago, way before Islam or any other modern religion -- because a woman taking her own course in her own marriage is a challenge to that control issue they have. That control issue --- the "honor" of the community's men displaying that the community's women are under their (the men's) control --- is a social construct, not a religious one.

And the incident -- and I've reminded you of this before -- was in Afghanistan ... not Iran.

I commented on KORANIC LAW------not Iran vs Afghanistan-----The woman was CONVICTED BY A REAL COURT OF LAW COMPLETE WITH A LEARNED
JUDGE------she was not murdered by an angry relative. You are missing the
entire point-----because YOU WANT TO. A conviction by a real court of law is
not called an "HONOR KILLING" regardless of the origins of those laws. Your
sophistry is truly Idiotic Iran functions on SHARIAH LAW too.

And where is any of that in the article?



Exactly.

You have any clue what I mean by the distinction between the local community and the religion?
If this were a religious motive, then a Muslim in, say, Bangladesh or Indonesia or Tunisia should all be equally incensed that this girl eloped.

They're not. Why is that?

Because it's got nothing to do with them, that's why. It's a community thing. It's a social value. A primitive and barbaric one, but that's where it lives. The only thing that's been offended is the "honor" of the males IN THAT COMMUNITY who think they're supposed to have "control" over her. That means nothing to a Muslim in Ankara or Casablanca.

Correct.

Those with an unwarranted hostility toward Islam are attempting – and failing – to conflate cultural practices that existed long before the advent of Islam with Islam.

no doubt that shariah law is very much influenced by practices that preceded islam--------and NOW lots of that stuff has been INCORPORATED into DIVINE
ETERNAL KORANIC LAW---------I wonder if you realize that your comment makes
no sense if you consider ISLAMIC IDEOLOGY. According to classical Islamic
"thinking" the KORAN and the law it describes was CREATED before the creation of the universe ----by ALLAH. I have no expectation that you will be
able to comprehend the FACT that I have just handed you. You consider my comment "anti muslim" NOPE----it is consistent with Islamic IDEOLOGY

 

[Picaro]

That is not going to happen. They are going to have to find a way to live together.

Why? Frankly, all the Arabs have to do is win one war. Then it's Holocaust 2: Electric Bugaloo.

The Zionists have to win every war until the end of time.

If that was going to happen, it would have happened already.

JoeB is just another racist bigot and sociopath, so naturally he isn't interested in reality to any extent worth mentioning. He merely pretends to be 'all about humanity and peace n stuff', like most of the rest of the faux 'peace left', but they are phonies, and their main hobby is racism and bigotry. .Whitey, Jooos, and Xians are their current hate focuses; it's all about those for these psychos. The Pop sociology fads currently target those demographics, they sell the most books and speaking gigs for 'academics' and the political hacks who control Democratic Party machines in places like south Chicago, LA, and NYC, etc.

 

[irosie91]

I commented on KORANIC LAW------not Iran vs Afghanistan-----The woman was CONVICTED BY A REAL COURT OF LAW COMPLETE WITH A LEARNED
JUDGE------she was not murdered by an angry relative. You are missing the
entire point-----because YOU WANT TO. A conviction by a real court of law is
not called an "HONOR KILLING" regardless of the origins of those laws. Your
sophistry is truly Idiotic Iran functions on SHARIAH LAW too.

And where is any of that in the article?



Exactly.

You have any clue what I mean by the distinction between the local community and the religion?
If this were a religious motive, then a Muslim in, say, Bangladesh or Indonesia or Tunisia should all be equally incensed that this girl eloped.

They're not. Why is that?

Because it's got nothing to do with them, that's why. It's a community thing. It's a social value. A primitive and barbaric one, but that's where it lives. The only thing that's been offended is the "honor" of the males IN THAT COMMUNITY who think they're supposed to have "control" over her. That means nothing to a Muslim in Ankara or Casablanca.

Bullshit-------you are now claiming that the QADI is a piece of shit and does not
adjudicate-----he just licks local ass. You issue a GENERAL STATEMENT
denigrating muslim koranic scholar judges

I didn't even bring up "qadi" --- YOU did. It isn't in the article at all.

the whole world is in the article?------Qadi simply means JUDGE in Arabic------
it what the judge is called in a shariah court--------why is this an issue for you?

that which people in turkey "believe" is in the article? A girl in Afghanistan was found guilty in a COURT OF LAW ----by a judge or a sexual indiscretion in accordance with SHARIAH LAW and sentenced to be stoned---<<<<<that is the
article. You call a court sentence an "honor killing"

For at least the 8th time now -- NONE of that is in the article. You're just making it up and wasting my time. Grow up.

some people simply do not know how shariah shit holes administer justice----and since you are aware of the fact you decided to take advantage of it and present
the idea that the stoning was something done by "angry relatives" as "honor violence"--------. You attempt reveals the fact that you are a piece of shit liar. I set
the record straight for you--------a fact which has clearly unsettled you

 

[irosie91]

Please, how naive or gullible can you get? Killing an unarmed person like that, is pure evil. Like Nazis shooting unarmed Jews or Hutus hacking to death innocent Tutis, ENOUGH! No rationalizations, no excuses, ENOUGH!

calm down all. ISLAMIC law includes a very elaborate legal system which
includes COURTS AND TRIALS. The young girl was brought to court----
tried and sentenced to death by a REAL JUDGE (qadi) The "Qadi" is an
expert in koranic law. It is not an "honor' killing-----it is a JUDICIAL EXECUTION-------just like an electric chair thing in the USA. Pogo knows that-----(he cannot
as utterly ignorant as he claims. People in Iran are also given
the benefit of trial and a judge-----same is true in Saudi arabia-----very elaborate
court system----not all that much different from our own. Pogo's claim that it is
just an "honor killing"<<<<something everyone does------is bullshit. It is ISLAM

Bullshit.

The article supplied notes nothing of the kind. It does however note that the victim's "crime" was eloping, which means taking her own course in her own marriage, which is a classic "honor killing" model. It's a challenge to the psychotically insecure patriarchy that came up with this shit -- thousands of years ago, way before Islam or any other modern religion -- because a woman taking her own course in her own marriage is a challenge to that control issue they have. That control issue --- the "honor" of the community's men displaying that the community's women are under their (the men's) control --- is a social construct, not a religious one.

And the incident -- and I've reminded you of this before -- was in Afghanistan ... not Iran.

I commented on KORANIC LAW------not Iran vs Afghanistan-----The woman was CONVICTED BY A REAL COURT OF LAW COMPLETE WITH A LEARNED
JUDGE------she was not murdered by an angry relative. You are missing the
entire point-----because YOU WANT TO. A conviction by a real court of law is
not called an "HONOR KILLING" regardless of the origins of those laws. Your
sophistry is truly Idiotic Iran functions on SHARIAH LAW too.

And where is any of that in the article?



Exactly.

You have any clue what I mean by the distinction between the local community and the religion?
If this were a religious motive, then a Muslim in, say, Bangladesh or Indonesia or Tunisia should all be equally incensed that this girl eloped.

They're not. Why is that?

Because it's got nothing to do with them, that's why. It's a community thing. It's a social value. A primitive and barbaric one, but that's where it lives. The only thing that's been offended is the "honor" of the males IN THAT COMMUNITY who think they're supposed to have "control" over her. That means nothing to a Muslim in Ankara or Casablanca.

Correct.

Those with an unwarranted hostility toward Islam are attempting – and failing – to conflate cultural practices that existed long before the advent of Islam with Islam.

It was a cultural practice in AFGHANISTAN -----before islam got to that land----that judges in courts sentenced women to being stoned to death for sexual indiscretion?
You have a link that supports your contention? Afghanistan was-----before islam got there-----a land of hindus and Buddhists with small Christian and jewish
populations------it also harbored Zoroastrians stoning link please.....