A Solid Dose of Stupidity From Cal. Dem. Gov. Brown

[Quantum Windbag]

In the midst of the debate surrounding high-speed rail, the project remains a top priority to a diverse set of business, labor, civic, transportation and community organizations throughout California. High-speed rail development is an essential component of a forward-looking economic agenda that will immediately bolster California's job outlook and improve our economy in the long-term.

Initial high-speed rail investments in the Central Valley, as well as in the Bay Area, will immediately create thousands of jobs and spur growth in businesses that directly and indirectly support the project. In addition to the 100,000 job-years generated by the Central Valley project, high-speed rail investments in Caltrain electrification will result in almost 9,600 direct construction job-years -- a "job-year" being one job lasting for a year -- at a time when we need them most. [...]

The big obstacle -- and it is a legitimate one -- is the state's economic outlook. How can we undertake a project like this in the current economy? As the country experienced during the Great Depression, real investment in infrastructure helped put people back to work and built a lasting foundation for the economy to grow on. High-speed rail is a tangible project that will spur job growth, improve the lives of millions of Californians and help create a transport infrastructure for the state that supports the 21st century economy.

Starting the high-speed rail project will also generate jobs and material sales, which in turn result in more income and sales tax revenues flowing to the state during construction to improve the near-term budget situation. Delaying or canceling high-speed rail would make the budget situation worse, not better, even without taking into account the cost of alternative transportation like highway and airport expansion -- or the cost of inaction such as increased traffic, lost productivity and the environmental impacts of the current system.​

California can't afford not to build high-speed rail

That explains why the Democrat who chairs the Transportation committee in the California state senate voted against the project.

 

[Sinjorri]

In the midst of the debate surrounding high-speed rail, the project remains a top priority to a diverse set of business, labor, civic, transportation and community organizations throughout California. High-speed rail development is an essential component of a forward-looking economic agenda that will immediately bolster California's job outlook and improve our economy in the long-term.

Initial high-speed rail investments in the Central Valley, as well as in the Bay Area, will immediately create thousands of jobs and spur growth in businesses that directly and indirectly support the project. In addition to the 100,000 job-years generated by the Central Valley project, high-speed rail investments in Caltrain electrification will result in almost 9,600 direct construction job-years -- a "job-year" being one job lasting for a year -- at a time when we need them most. [...]

The big obstacle -- and it is a legitimate one -- is the state's economic outlook. How can we undertake a project like this in the current economy? As the country experienced during the Great Depression, real investment in infrastructure helped put people back to work and built a lasting foundation for the economy to grow on. High-speed rail is a tangible project that will spur job growth, improve the lives of millions of Californians and help create a transport infrastructure for the state that supports the 21st century economy.

Starting the high-speed rail project will also generate jobs and material sales, which in turn result in more income and sales tax revenues flowing to the state during construction to improve the near-term budget situation. Delaying or canceling high-speed rail would make the budget situation worse, not better, even without taking into account the cost of alternative transportation like highway and airport expansion -- or the cost of inaction such as increased traffic, lost productivity and the environmental impacts of the current system.​

California can't afford not to build high-speed rail

only a lib would anwer a question like "How can u spend money u dont have?" with an answer like "HOW CAN WE AFFORD TO NOT DO IT?"

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I'm completely broke, can't pay my bills and......wait, what's that? A shiney new car......I want it!

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

And for today's news:

The states with Republican governors all had LOWER unemployment rates for the last quarter. My state of Oklahoma went from 5.2% to 4.8%.

The WORST TEN cities in the United States are all controlled by Democrats.

"You shall know them by their works..."

 

[Seawytch]

In the midst of the debate surrounding high-speed rail, the project remains a top priority to a diverse set of business, labor, civic, transportation and community organizations throughout California. High-speed rail development is an essential component of a forward-looking economic agenda that will immediately bolster California's job outlook and improve our economy in the long-term.

Initial high-speed rail investments in the Central Valley, as well as in the Bay Area, will immediately create thousands of jobs and spur growth in businesses that directly and indirectly support the project. In addition to the 100,000 job-years generated by the Central Valley project, high-speed rail investments in Caltrain electrification will result in almost 9,600 direct construction job-years -- a "job-year" being one job lasting for a year -- at a time when we need them most. [...]

The big obstacle -- and it is a legitimate one -- is the state's economic outlook. How can we undertake a project like this in the current economy? As the country experienced during the Great Depression, real investment in infrastructure helped put people back to work and built a lasting foundation for the economy to grow on. High-speed rail is a tangible project that will spur job growth, improve the lives of millions of Californians and help create a transport infrastructure for the state that supports the 21st century economy.

Starting the high-speed rail project will also generate jobs and material sales, which in turn result in more income and sales tax revenues flowing to the state during construction to improve the near-term budget situation. Delaying or canceling high-speed rail would make the budget situation worse, not better, even without taking into account the cost of alternative transportation like highway and airport expansion -- or the cost of inaction such as increased traffic, lost productivity and the environmental impacts of the current system.​

California can't afford not to build high-speed rail

That explains why the Democrat who chairs the Transportation committee in the California state senate voted against the project.

Which of these individuals holds that title?

Sen. Joe Simitian, of Palo Alto, was one of the four Democrats to break ranks with his colleagues. Simitian said he supports the vision of high-speed rail, but not the current plan. He said there are "billions of reasons" to oppose it.

"We're not being asked to vote on a vision today," Simitian. "We're being asked to vote on a plan."

The other Democratic senators opposing the measure were Mark DeSaulnier of Concord, Alan Lowenthal of Long Beach, and Fran Pavley of Agoura Hills.

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/07/07/4615291/high-speed-rail-squeaks-through.html

 

[Quantum Windbag]

In the midst of the debate surrounding high-speed rail, the project remains a top priority to a diverse set of business, labor, civic, transportation and community organizations throughout California. High-speed rail development is an essential component of a forward-looking economic agenda that will immediately bolster California's job outlook and improve our economy in the long-term.

Initial high-speed rail investments in the Central Valley, as well as in the Bay Area, will immediately create thousands of jobs and spur growth in businesses that directly and indirectly support the project. In addition to the 100,000 job-years generated by the Central Valley project, high-speed rail investments in Caltrain electrification will result in almost 9,600 direct construction job-years -- a "job-year" being one job lasting for a year -- at a time when we need them most. [...]

The big obstacle -- and it is a legitimate one -- is the state's economic outlook. How can we undertake a project like this in the current economy? As the country experienced during the Great Depression, real investment in infrastructure helped put people back to work and built a lasting foundation for the economy to grow on. High-speed rail is a tangible project that will spur job growth, improve the lives of millions of Californians and help create a transport infrastructure for the state that supports the 21st century economy.

Starting the high-speed rail project will also generate jobs and material sales, which in turn result in more income and sales tax revenues flowing to the state during construction to improve the near-term budget situation. Delaying or canceling high-speed rail would make the budget situation worse, not better, even without taking into account the cost of alternative transportation like highway and airport expansion -- or the cost of inaction such as increased traffic, lost productivity and the environmental impacts of the current system.​

California can't afford not to build high-speed rail

That explains why the Democrat who chairs the Transportation committee in the California state senate voted against the project.

Which of these individuals holds that title?

Sen. Joe Simitian, of Palo Alto, was one of the four Democrats to break ranks with his colleagues. Simitian said he supports the vision of high-speed rail, but not the current plan. He said there are "billions of reasons" to oppose it.

"We're not being asked to vote on a vision today," Simitian. "We're being asked to vote on a plan."

The other Democratic senators opposing the measure were Mark DeSaulnier of Concord, Alan Lowenthal of Long Beach, and Fran Pavley of Agoura Hills.

High-speed rail squeaks through California Senate - Transportation - The Sacramento Bee

I don't fracking remember, I saw it on the news. I do know that every member of the bullet train group voted against this boondoggle.

In fact, not one Democrat from the Senate's unofficial bullet train oversight group -- including Mark DeSaulnier, D-Concord, and Alan Lowenthal, D-Long
Beach -- supported the project. Fran Pavley, D-Santa Monica, was the fourth Democrat who voted no.

California approves high-speed rail project after years of debate - San Jose Mercury News

Feel free to point out how they are all job hating conservatives.

 

[Seawytch]

That explains why the Democrat who chairs the Transportation committee in the California state senate voted against the project.

Which of these individuals holds that title?

Sen. Joe Simitian, of Palo Alto, was one of the four Democrats to break ranks with his colleagues. Simitian said he supports the vision of high-speed rail, but not the current plan. He said there are "billions of reasons" to oppose it.

"We're not being asked to vote on a vision today," Simitian. "We're being asked to vote on a plan."

The other Democratic senators opposing the measure were Mark DeSaulnier of Concord, Alan Lowenthal of Long Beach, and Fran Pavley of Agoura Hills.

High-speed rail squeaks through California Senate - Transportation - The Sacramento Bee

I don't fracking remember, I saw it on the news. I do know that every member of the bullet train group voted against this boondoggle.

In fact, not one Democrat from the Senate's unofficial bullet train oversight group -- including Mark DeSaulnier, D-Concord, and Alan Lowenthal, D-Long
Beach -- supported the project. Fran Pavley, D-Santa Monica, was the fourth Democrat who voted no.

California approves high-speed rail project after years of debate - San Jose Mercury News

Feel free to point out how they are all job hating conservatives.

I never said they were, but I did find out who it was, it was DeSaulnier (and why)

Both Simitian and DeSaulnier are skeptical of the current plan, especially the idea that the first phase of construction will be the 130-mile "train to nowhere" stretch in the Central Valley.

http://sd07.senate.ca.gov/news/2012-07-01-high-speed-rail-bay-area-legislators-support-key

 

[Avatar4321]

you really hates job creation huh?

TM, do the people really benefit from working if there is no money to pay them for their work? Atleast from an economic standpoint (I believe in work in general. So I think there is a tangible benefit to work regardless of income earned for it).