A simple question...

[wyomingpatriot]

What is the GOP plan for creating jobs, exactly? I have never met anyone, or heard/read any commentator or politician, who can explain this.
This doesn't bode well for denying Obama a second term.

 

[Avatar4321]

It's not the GOPs responsibility to create jobs. Heck, it's not the governments.

What the GOP needs to do is what they were elected to do: Cut the deficit. And this 4% is a drop in the bucket. We need real cuts. We need our budget balanced and we need to stop spending money we don't have. Until we fix this problem, we will continue to have economic instability because any intelligent person realizes that the government being overextended and broke does not bode well for the economy.

 

[wyomingpatriot]

Yes it is Congress's job.
economic recovery is what is most vital. Cutting the deficit comes second. The recovery is very real, with unemployment now at 8.8, but it is fragile. Cutting discretionary spending and scoring cheap political points against unions would do nothing in the long run but destroy the recovery. Where is the logic in depriving people of their productivity, by destroying education and infrastructure? Also, where is the logic in countering the deficit without raising taxes? If I am in debt x number of dollars, how is not making any money going to help me?

 

[JFK_USA]

They have a plan to create jobs.




Well Sweat shop jobs that pay a nickel a day.

 

[auditor0007]

These clowns in Washington aren't going to do shit. They talk the talk, but they'll never walk the walk. Anyone who truly wants to reduce the deficit will realize two things. First, cuts need to be made in SS, Medicare, and military spending. In order to make legitimate cuts into SS and Mediare, the retirement age must be raised and it must be done in a fairly aggressive manner. Secondly, taxes must be raised. Tax cuts are not going to help create that many new jobs if the deficit continues to grow and leads us into much higher inflation along with even more debt. So until our elected officials start discussing what really needs to be done, they are all just full of shit, Republicans and Democrats alike.

 

[editec]

The GOP has no plan to make things better.

That's not the agenda.

That isnt obvious?

 

[code1211]

Yes it is Congress's job.
economic recovery is what is most vital. Cutting the deficit comes second. The recovery is very real, with unemployment now at 8.8, but it is fragile. Cutting discretionary spending and scoring cheap political points against unions would do nothing in the long run but destroy the recovery. Where is the logic in depriving people of their productivity, by destroying education and infrastructure? Also, where is the logic in countering the deficit without raising taxes? If I am in debt x number of dollars, how is not making any money going to help me?

It's impossible to estimate the length and breadth of the ignorance that supports this opinion.

Right now, to support the kind of logic that you employ, the Feds are burrowing from our children and grandchildren and their children, 40% of the budget. Bush was a big spender, but his lack of control is dwarfed by the current bunch. How much of your household budget do you have to burrow to support your activities?

As a country, we were swindled into spending about a Trillion Dollars on the Failed Stimulus. If this does not illustrate the vacuum within the emptiness of your thinking, nothing will. Government spending empties the pockets of the citizenry. Sometimes that spending produces lasting trinkets like a highway and other times it just gets pissed away as it does when supporting the body counts on government union payrolls.

The recovery, if you have not noticed, is occurring long after the Failed Stimulus ended. By the projections of those running the Failed Stimulus, If the effects were not in place in the summer of 2010, the positive effects hoped for from the Failed Stimulus would not occur.

What they meant was, if the economy has not recovered by 2010 in spite of the dagger we have plunged into its heart, we will lose big in the fall of 2010.

In that, at least, they were right.

Ireland and Greece have economies that have failed already. Your plan has us going down the same drain. What will it take for you to learn?

 

[code1211]

The GOP has no plan to make things better.

That's not the agenda.

That isnt obvious?

Neither party nor any politician has a plan to make things better.

The only logical choice, given the FACT that the politicians are absolutely impotent to help, is to opt for the plan that costs less.

If we are going to get the lowest quality, shouldn't we at least enjoy a good price?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The GOP has no plan to make things better.

That's not the agenda.

That isnt obvious?

Ya your buddies the dems did such a fine job. Obama and company was on track to create an 8 trillion dollar increase in the deficit in 4 years, you remember you were whining cause Bush did it in 8 right?

The Federal Government has no power , authority or responsibility for creating jobs. Never has and hopefully never will. What they have is a duty to balance the budget and pay off the debt. Something Democrats are not interested in doing at all.

 

[midcan5]

"Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone." John Maynard Keynes

This is one of those topics in which reality is completely lost to ideological disinformation. Anyone who considered what a society is without government or the anarchic theory that markets create utopia has read no history, especially economic history. Almost every major creation of wealth in knowledge and in real benefit comes from living in a collective. Boy that's a real 'bad' word today, but I use it purposely. See the quote below from one of the best history books written, or consider the book noted in URL. Government kick starts but in America today too much of the money goes to a war machine that has wasted trillions. As people cry over bills for our grandchildren, crocodile tears methinks, we waste billions on a war machine that could not stop 19 madmen, but fear manages sense in this case. If we don't build and support, we too will collapse internally, same as Russia did under oligarchy. See my signature links.

"In 1929 Federal, state, and municipal governments accounted for about 8 percent of all economic activity in the United States. By the 1960s that figure was between 20 and 25 percent, far exceeding that in India, a socialist country. The National Science Foundation reckoned that federal funds were paying for 90 percent of research in aviation and space travel, 65 percent in electrical and electronic devices, 42 percent in Scientific Instruments, 31 percent in machinery, 28 percent in metal alloys, 24 percent in automobiles, and 20 percent in chemicals." William Manchester "The Glory and the Dream"


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"The ideas of economists and political philosophers, both when they are right and when they are wrong, are more powerful than is commonly understood. Indeed, the world is ruled by little else. Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist. Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back. I am sure that the power of vested interests is vastly exaggerated compared with the gradual encroachment of ideas.. But, soon or late, it is ideas, not vested interests, which are dangerous for good or evil." John Maynard Keynes


"Separate an individual from society, and give him an island or a continent to possess, and he cannot acquire personal property. He cannot be rich. So inseparably are the means connected with the end, in all cases, that where the former do not exist the latter cannot be obtained. All accumulation, therefore, of personal property, beyond what a man's own hands produce, is derived to him by living in society; and he owes on every principle of justice, of gratitude, and of civilization, a part of that accumulation back again to society from whence the whole came." Thomas Paine

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Yes it is Congress's job.
economic recovery is what is most vital. Cutting the deficit comes second. The recovery is very real, with unemployment now at 8.8, but it is fragile. Cutting discretionary spending and scoring cheap political points against unions would do nothing in the long run but destroy the recovery. Where is the logic in depriving people of their productivity, by destroying education and infrastructure? Also, where is the logic in countering the deficit without raising taxes? If I am in debt x number of dollars, how is not making any money going to help me?

It's impossible to estimate the length and breadth of the ignorance that supports this opinion.

Right now, to support the kind of logic that you employ, the Feds are burrowing from our children and grandchildren and their children, 40% of the budget. Bush was a big spender, but his lack of control is dwarfed by the current bunch. How much of your household budget do you have to burrow to support your activities?

As a country, we were swindled into spending about a Trillion Dollars on the Failed Stimulus. If this does not illustrate the vacuum within the emptiness of your thinking, nothing will.

It's impossible to estimate the length and breadth of the ignorance that supports this opinion.

Right now, to support the kind of logic that you employ, the Feds are burrowing(sic...'Bagger-style) from our children and grandchildren and their children, 40% of the budget.

As a country, we were swindled into spending who-knows-HOW-much on The DICK; Cheney's
WAR FOR PROFIT!!!!!

If this does not illustrate the vacuum within the emptiness of your thinking, nothing will!!!

Billion$ WA$TED In Iraq!!!!

"I think what’s happening over there is an orgy of greed here with contractors," says North Dakota Sen. Byron Dorgan.

He is the chairman of the Democratic Party Policy Committee, and says Custer Battles is small potatoes compared to behemoths like Halliburton and its subsidiary, Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR), who have collected half of all the money awarded to contractors in Iraq, and, according to Department of Defense auditors, have over-billed taxpayers more than a billion dollars.

Dorgan’s committee has held hearings and heard testimony that Halliburton has overcharged for meals, and fuel and gouged taxpayers on items like hand towels."

U.S. Official:
Oversight Was "Nonexistent"​

You "conservatives" FUCKED-UP!!

'FE$$-UP!!!!!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The GOP has no plan to make things better.

That's not the agenda.

That isnt obvious?

The Federal Government has no power , authority or responsibility for creating jobs.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!!

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[Harry Dresden]

did i just have an LSD flashback......or did Mr. Shithead just post something?....

 

[Iridescence]

I don't know about all the above but it seems to me that what someone referred to as 'sweat jobs' are not the worst idea, considering. Of course, I am basing this thought off of the minimum wage not dropping below the rate it is and that the average cost of living is also not greatly increased. We waste so much here in America. It is embarrassing to us as a nation as to how hard some really do have it and yet how wasteful and unaware some others are. Thrifty give away shops and such are such a great idea for family living and what I witness as a wife, mother, friend to a few is that the majority of others in my very position refuse to take second best. This would not be the problematic thing it has become if their income was to allow for such. Relationships and marriages today fail horridly and the number one stress factor I see most prevalent is the family income status.

What has come to be so wrong with taking what is given and making something profound and individual? We have come to forever look higher to our bosses, our companies, our governments, our gods.... instead of stopping the buck with ourselves and becoming more self-reliant, more self-sufficient and less needy as a society whole.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

"Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone." John Maynard Keynes

Bingo!!!!!​

"I spent 33 years and 4 months in active service as a member of our country's most agile military force--the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from second lieutenant to Major General. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism. I suspected I was part of a racket all the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service."

Smedley D. Butler (1881-1940)​

 

[NYcarbineer]

What is the GOP plan for creating jobs, exactly? I have never met anyone, or heard/read any commentator or politician, who can explain this.
This doesn't bode well for denying Obama a second term.

If you believe that the GOP really wants to do what they talk about doing, which is to cut spending,
then the GOP's plan is to eliminate jobs, not create jobs. Quite simply put, Government is the country's biggest single investor. Government money creates jobs - not just government jobs, but private sector jobs. If you don't think the government creates jobs, count up how many people work in the defense industry funded by government contracts...for starters...

Of course now, and for a long time, actually, the government has been borrowing billions to create those jobs. The GOP wants to spend less, or at least they say they do,

and that's fine, but the single biggest consequence of the government spending less will be job elimination.

Any Republican who tells you that they want to cut spending to create jobs and get the economy moving is simply talking nonsense, but,

of course they have to talk nonsense like that because a job elimination agenda, i.e., the GOP's agenda, isn't exactly a political winner.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

did i just have an LSD flashback.....

Probably NOT!!!

LSD would have distracted you from that ol' "conservative", time-honored preference for....

....BULLSHIT-ABSOLUTES....

....and, you just ain't "there".......obviously.

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[RetiredGySgt]

The GOP has no plan to make things better.

That's not the agenda.

That isnt obvious?

The Federal Government has no power , authority or responsibility for creating jobs.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onD6OtbPjt0]YouTube - iraq for sale part 1[/ame]

$ $ $ $

Provide for us the clause in the Constitution where in the Federal Government is granted the power to create JOBS.

 

[Avatar4321]

The GOP has no plan to make things better.

That's not the agenda.

That isnt obvious?

The fact that anyone is waiting for a politician to make things better demonstrates a complete lack of understandinf of economics and is a large part of the problem that is afflicting this nation.

 

[Avatar4321]

Provide for us the clause in the Constitution where in the Federal Government is granted the power to create JOBS.

I don't think that's a power that can be delegated to any government in the first place. It's an inherent flaw in our thinking and culture to expect such from the government.