9th circus dissmisses case agaisnt sanctuarys in Steinle family lawsuit

[bodecea]

Why do the suckers who fall for donnie's tweeted lies always run away when asked to provide evidence of their claims?

I'm defending Trump liar, I'm saying the ninth circus is the most overturned court. Stop blowing smoke out your front butt and deal with it.

What do you base that assertion on?

From what I've read, a very small percentage of cases from the 9th Circuit, or any of the federal appellate courts, go to the Supreme Court. Of those, a high percentage is overturned, but a high percentage of cases from all of the appellate courts that get to the USSC are overturned. In the 2014-2015 court term, there were 4 courts which had 100% overturn rates. There were only 12 cases between those courts which reached the USSC, though.

Here's a few links regarding reversals which indicate the 9th is not the appellate court with the highest percentage of USSC reversals:
Supreme Court to rack up 9th Circuit reversals
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-cases/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c40663bf90c7
Evaluating Speculation that The Ninth Circuit is the Lower Court SCOTUS Overturns the Most

The 9th may be the most overturned in terms of total cases, but since it apparently hears the most cases, that is misleading.

Like most libs you are misleading, and my post should should have read "I'm NOT defending Trump..."

 

[Roudy]

You had me at "9th Circus"...what a fookin' sooprize!

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I never said any such thing.
Is lying a prerequisite when your a dyke?

So you ADMIT that saying 80% of the 9th's decisions are overturned is a big fat lie.

Well since I never said it.

The are frequently overturned and there's no doubt of that.

Frequently? How frequently are 9th Circuit decisions overturned? Give us a percentage.

Use the Google ya dumb Kunt!!!!

I have...I have a good idea what the correct answer is. I want you to look it up.....but it looks like you are too frightened of the answer thus the retreating into name calling which is surrender.

I already know the record.
Why do you think they're called the 9th Circus?

 

[busybee01]

The judges said city's policy did not violate federal law and that Mirkarimi had a right to enforce the memo.

It (sanctuary law) actually DOES violate federal law in that it is designed specifically to counteract federal immigration law and oppose it.

It is no more legal than when Jim Crow governors blocked black children from trying to enter segregated public schools and soldiers with fixed bayonets had to escort those children into the schools.

Surprise! The 9th Circuit court got something else wrong. And saying sanctuary policy isn't stopping federal agents from doing their jobs, it just isn't helping them is specious b.s.!

Sanctuary policy is meant to aid and assist people who violate federal law and therefore breaks the law itself.
The distinction between not helping ICE agents and actually hindering them from applying the law, by cutting off all
communications and assistance between sanctuary cities, like San Francisco, and immigration agents is
patently absurd on it's face and the end result is the same....federal law is thwarted by sanctuary policy.

If you aren't ready to discuss the issue don't bother with a reply.

It is not illegal. State and local officials are not required to enforce immigration law. It has nothing to do with Jim Crow laws.

 

[busybee01]

there is no immigration clause in our Constitution; your right wing bigotry is what got her killed.

San Francisco's illegal sanctuary policy is what killed Katie Steinle and she's not the first person in SF to die due to shielding illegal felons from the law. So fuck your idiocy and take your lame post and jam it!

That is so much bullshit. The fact is that the vast majority of crimes are committed by Americans. Unfortunately people like you want to use her death for politics. That is criminal.

 

[busybee01]

Where did you get your Constitutional Law Degree?

Where did you get yours? Off the back of a cereal box?

If you want to dispute my reasoning be my guest. I've had legal training and I think I'm on pretty solid ground.

I don't think you are on solid ground. Your reasoning is driven by hatred. States do not have to enforce federal immigration law. Name the provision in the Constitution that says otherwise.

 

[danielpalos]

The judges said city's policy did not violate federal law and that Mirkarimi had a right to enforce the memo.

It (sanctuary law) actually DOES violate federal law in that it is designed specifically to counteract federal immigration law and oppose it.

It is no more legal than when Jim Crow governors blocked black children from trying to enter segregated public schools and soldiers with fixed bayonets had to escort those children into the schools.

Surprise! The 9th Circuit court got something else wrong. And saying sanctuary policy isn't stopping federal agents from doing their jobs, it just isn't helping them is specious b.s.!

Sanctuary policy is meant to aid and assist people who violate federal law and therefore breaks the law itself.
The distinction between not helping ICE agents and actually hindering them from applying the law, by cutting off all
communications and assistance between sanctuary cities, like San Francisco, and immigration agents is
patently absurd on it's face and the end result is the same....federal law is thwarted by sanctuary policy.

If you aren't ready to discuss the issue don't bother with a reply.

It is not illegal. State and local officials are not required to enforce immigration law. It has nothing to do with Jim Crow laws.

There is no express immigration clause in our federal Constitution.

 

[Montrovant]

Why do the suckers who fall for donnie's tweeted lies always run away when asked to provide evidence of their claims?

I'm defending Trump liar, I'm saying the ninth circus is the most overturned court. Stop blowing smoke out your front butt and deal with it.

What do you base that assertion on?

From what I've read, a very small percentage of cases from the 9th Circuit, or any of the federal appellate courts, go to the Supreme Court. Of those, a high percentage is overturned, but a high percentage of cases from all of the appellate courts that get to the USSC are overturned. In the 2014-2015 court term, there were 4 courts which had 100% overturn rates. There were only 12 cases between those courts which reached the USSC, though.

Here's a few links regarding reversals which indicate the 9th is not the appellate court with the highest percentage of USSC reversals:
Supreme Court to rack up 9th Circuit reversals
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-cases/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c40663bf90c7
Evaluating Speculation that The Ninth Circuit is the Lower Court SCOTUS Overturns the Most

The 9th may be the most overturned in terms of total cases, but since it apparently hears the most cases, that is misleading.

Like most libs you are misleading, and my post should should have read "I'm NOT defending Trump..."

First, I'm not a liberal. Next, how am I misleading? I pointed out both that the 9th Circuit does not have the highest percentage of cases overturned when sent before the Supreme Court, and also that they have the highest total number of cases overturned, in large part because they have the highest number of cases sent before the Supreme Court. I then provided evidence for those statements. Finally, I never said anything about Trump or if you were defending him.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Damn liberals are SCUM!
This is a disgusting slap in the face to this family. Disgusting liberal scum need to be dealt with.


Ninth Circuit dismisses Steinle family lawsuit against sanctuary

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In this country, the inmates literally run the asylum. Our court system is of, by, and for illegal aliens, while Americans, including those killed by illegal aliens, are left out in the cold. The upshot of the latest ruling from the Ninth Circuit is that while illegal aliens can now sue our country and win judgments against law enforcement for enforcing federal law, victims of illegal aliens cannot sue sanctuary cities for thwarting federal law and causing the deaths of their loved ones. Welcome to the new America.


The Ninth Circuit and many other liberal courts believe they are a super-legislature, holding the sole and final say over broad public policy issues. They believe they are not constrained by rules of standing and can grant standing to any foreign national to sue American officials and law enforcement for rights to enter, remain, steal citizenship, be counted in the census, obtain welfare, and never be deported. Yet Kate Steinle’s parents, who are not seeking a public policy edict from the courts but rather an individualized claim against the city of San Francisco, are deemed not to have an actionable claim because government officials have immunity.
Ninth Circuit dismisses Steinle family lawsuit against sanctuary

As much as I hate the outcome, the Ninth Circuit made the right decision. San Fransicko and its government officials are not proper parties to that lawsuit.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You knew as soon as the case got moved to the incredibly biased 9th circuit, there was little hope justice would be carried out.

9th Circus court needs to be split up into three courts and the empty seats filled with Trump appointees.

When it comes to pollution, dilution is the solution.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

San Francisco's illegal sanctuary policy is what killed Katie Steinle and she's not the first person in SF to die due to shielding illegal felons from the law. So fuck your idiocy and take your lame post and jam it!

Pretty sure there's a strong argument that the illegal ass hat was the intervening sole proximate cause Katie's death. That's only AFTER you get past government immunity.

It was a stupid lawsuit. The lawyers who filed that shit should be ashamed of themselves.

.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Still waiting for some evidence to back that a) 80% of the 9th Circuit's cases are overturned and/or b) that the 9th Circuit is the most overturned Circuit court.

I don't know about statistics, but the 9th Circuit certainly has a reputation for lacking restraint.

.

 

[miketx]

Why do the suckers who fall for donnie's tweeted lies always run away when asked to provide evidence of their claims?

I'm defending Trump liar, I'm saying the ninth circus is the most overturned court. Stop blowing smoke out your front butt and deal with it.

What do you base that assertion on?

From what I've read, a very small percentage of cases from the 9th Circuit, or any of the federal appellate courts, go to the Supreme Court. Of those, a high percentage is overturned, but a high percentage of cases from all of the appellate courts that get to the USSC are overturned. In the 2014-2015 court term, there were 4 courts which had 100% overturn rates. There were only 12 cases between those courts which reached the USSC, though.

Here's a few links regarding reversals which indicate the 9th is not the appellate court with the highest percentage of USSC reversals:
Supreme Court to rack up 9th Circuit reversals
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-cases/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c40663bf90c7
Evaluating Speculation that The Ninth Circuit is the Lower Court SCOTUS Overturns the Most

The 9th may be the most overturned in terms of total cases, but since it apparently hears the most cases, that is misleading.

Like most libs you are misleading, and my post should should have read "I'm NOT defending Trump..."

First, I'm not a liberal. Next, how am I misleading? I pointed out both that the 9th Circuit does not have the highest percentage of cases overturned when sent before the Supreme Court, and also that they have the highest total number of cases overturned, in large part because they have the highest number of cases sent before the Supreme Court. I then provided evidence for those statements. Finally, I never said anything about Trump or if you were defending him.

You pointed out your opinion.

 

[Montrovant]

Why do the suckers who fall for donnie's tweeted lies always run away when asked to provide evidence of their claims?

I'm defending Trump liar, I'm saying the ninth circus is the most overturned court. Stop blowing smoke out your front butt and deal with it.

What do you base that assertion on?

From what I've read, a very small percentage of cases from the 9th Circuit, or any of the federal appellate courts, go to the Supreme Court. Of those, a high percentage is overturned, but a high percentage of cases from all of the appellate courts that get to the USSC are overturned. In the 2014-2015 court term, there were 4 courts which had 100% overturn rates. There were only 12 cases between those courts which reached the USSC, though.

Here's a few links regarding reversals which indicate the 9th is not the appellate court with the highest percentage of USSC reversals:
Supreme Court to rack up 9th Circuit reversals
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-cases/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c40663bf90c7
Evaluating Speculation that The Ninth Circuit is the Lower Court SCOTUS Overturns the Most

The 9th may be the most overturned in terms of total cases, but since it apparently hears the most cases, that is misleading.

Like most libs you are misleading, and my post should should have read "I'm NOT defending Trump..."

First, I'm not a liberal. Next, how am I misleading? I pointed out both that the 9th Circuit does not have the highest percentage of cases overturned when sent before the Supreme Court, and also that they have the highest total number of cases overturned, in large part because they have the highest number of cases sent before the Supreme Court. I then provided evidence for those statements. Finally, I never said anything about Trump or if you were defending him.

You pointed out your opinion.

Are you saying that the numbers regarding the cases involving the 9th Circuit court are false? Do you have some statistics which are different from those provided? Which part of my post is opinion that you disagree with? I certainly didn't give my opinion on a court case without knowing what the ruling was based on...

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

I don't think you are on solid ground. Your reasoning is driven by hatred. States do not have to enforce federal immigration law. Name the provision in the Constitution that says otherwise.

Sanctuary policy is not only NOT enforcing federal law it is intended to COUNTER and OPPOSE federal law.
It is aiding and abetting millions of illegal immigrants avoid detection and break our laws. It actively SUBVERTS the law.

It's no different than Jim Crow states that refused to enforce federal civil rights laws. So I assume you support the right of Georgia or Alabama to keep black children out of segregated schools?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

It is not illegal.

It is illegal to knowingly assist others that are breaking the law. Case closed.

State and local officials are not required to enforce immigration law. It has nothing to do with Jim Crow laws.

You wish! It is exactly like Jim Crow America in that certain states are actively subverting, ignoring and
opposing federal law.

This concludes the attention that I will give to someone who is too stupid or dishonest to discuss the matter rationally.
Good day.

 

[bodecea]

So you ADMIT that saying 80% of the 9th's decisions are overturned is a big fat lie.

Well since I never said it.

The are frequently overturned and there's no doubt of that.

Frequently? How frequently are 9th Circuit decisions overturned? Give us a percentage.

Use the Google ya dumb Kunt!!!!

I have...I have a good idea what the correct answer is. I want you to look it up.....but it looks like you are too frightened of the answer thus the retreating into name calling which is surrender.

I already know the record.
Why do you think they're called the 9th Circus?

Because you swallow the CEC koolaid.

 

[bodecea]

Still waiting for some evidence to back that a) 80% of the 9th Circuit's cases are overturned and/or b) that the 9th Circuit is the most overturned Circuit court.

I don't know about statistics, but the 9th Circuit certainly has a reputation for lacking restraint.

.

Reputation with whom? CRC cultists?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Well since I never said it.

The are frequently overturned and there's no doubt of that.

Frequently? How frequently are 9th Circuit decisions overturned? Give us a percentage.

Use the Google ya dumb Kunt!!!!

I have...I have a good idea what the correct answer is. I want you to look it up.....but it looks like you are too frightened of the answer thus the retreating into name calling which is surrender.

I already know the record.
Why do you think they're called the 9th Circus?

Because you swallow the CEC koolaid.

Stay stupid.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Pretty sure there's a strong argument that the illegal ass hat was the intervening sole proximate cause Katie's death. That's only AFTER you get past government immunity.

It was a stupid lawsuit. The lawyers who filed that shit should be ashamed of themselves.

And
I'm equally sure that San Francisco is criminally negligent and culpable in the Katie Steinle case through their blatant
violation of and disregard for federal law.

How is San Francisco ignoring and subverting federal immigration law any different in principle than Jim Crow states doing the same with regard to civil rights law? If you say San Francisco has that right then you must also admit Lester Maddox and George Wallace were on solid legal ground in denying blacks their civil rights in Georgia and Alabama.


Is the government immune from the consequences of their actions when they knowingly ignore the law? I'd love the Supreme Court to rule on this if they haven't already.

For instance if San Francisco decides, for whatever reason, to ignore clean water laws and citizens there die as a result
of SF's actions is the county of San Francisco immune from the consequences of their decisions and actions?

I sincerely hope not.