9/11: The real answer.

[eots]

was it published before or after the scientists were caught fucking with the data?

so are you saying popular mechanics is only as good as the data and so called experts they parrot ? did they publish the debunking 9/11 before this ??

August 21, 2007

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

basically thats what i am saying....

is the NIST guy saying explosive demolitions were used at the WTC?

didnt think so....

he says the findings are questionable,non-conclusive and the investigation was blocked and evidence withheld

 

[DiveCon]

so are you saying popular mechanics is only as good as the data and so called experts they parrot ? did they publish the debunking 9/11 before this ??

August 21, 2007

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

basically thats what i am saying....

is the NIST guy saying explosive demolitions were used at the WTC?

didnt think so....

he says the findings are questionable,non-conclusive and the investigation was blocked and evidence withheld

but he doesnt support the bullshit you do
that has already been exposed
you use him dishonestly

 

[eots]

basically thats what i am saying....

is the NIST guy saying explosive demolitions were used at the WTC?

didnt think so....

he says the findings are questionable,non-conclusive and the investigation was blocked and evidence withheld

but he doesnt support the bullshit you do
that has already been exposed
you use him dishonestly

exposed ?..lol...he does not support the official theory your beloved popular mechanics embraced...he claims the government actively blocked the investigation and withheld evidence and calls for a new investigation..there is nothing dishonest about it

 

[DiveCon]

he says the findings are questionable,non-conclusive and the investigation was blocked and evidence withheld

but he doesnt support the bullshit you do
that has already been exposed
you use him dishonestly

exposed ?..lol...he does not support the official theory your beloved popular mechanics embraced...he claims the government actively blocked the investigation and withheld evidence and calls for a new investigation..there is nothing dishonest about it

does he believe the government actually did it?
huh, dipshit?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

First off, let me start by saying... We all know that the government lies to us all the time. They pull wool over our face and the programmed stooges that believe what their told by the government. A large population as well as myself see too many holes in the story.
When the government can't answer certain parts of there story... I don't see how anybody can believe them at all.
Here's the answer:

The government was tipped-off and knew 4 months prior that this attack was going to take place.
The government had two options- 1) Stop the terrorists and life goes on. 2) Turn this attack into a public relations love fest and reap the benefits.
"By reaping the benefits" One example, of many, is having the ability to take constitutional rights from us by passing a long, yet never passed until 9/11, proposed bill.
The government chose the latter.
The attacks happen. 9/11 is one of the darkest days in U.S. History. The world is behind us.
The buildings fall like a well planned implosion... Witnesses that are questioned on the news... On 9/11 said "They heard over 3 explosions after the planes hit. Yet, we are told that the only things that caused the building to fall were the planes.
Another WTC buiding falls from "Supposed" heat from the two attacks. The building also fell like a perfect implosion.
The debris of 9/11 was searched through with a fine tooth comb.
The first time in history! The black boxes were not located. They never surfaced.
Over 20 Workers of the 9/11 search witness the finding of one black box.
The FBI has said "That there are somethings that people don't need to know. This is one of them."
The Official Report comes out and has too many holes for the government to answer.
They don't even go into depth on the third WTC building to fall... Like it never happened.

What is on that tape of the black boxes that the "FBI" sheepishly denies?
Why can't the FBI say that the workers are liars and they didn't find the black box?
If you don't believe the government would attack and kill their own... Check out "Operation Northwoods"
Why did the government take advantage of the darkest moment in US history by passing bills that take away some constitutional rights (Patriot Act)?


This is the best answer with the least amount of holes.

Of course the fact no rights were actually taken away has no bearing on your idiotic rant. Right? Or perhaps you can actually name those rights we supposedly lost?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

candycorns can only answer the questions with questions

You can not answer the question as we have seen over and over. You can not have it both ways. You can not on one hand claim that there were explosives on or near the floors where the Jets hit yet not explain how they survived the impact, explosion and fire from said impact.

Nor can you explain how supposed explosives were set off nor why we had no evidence of explosions in the basement area. Required if one is going to bring a building down. In fact that large a building would have required explosives on Numerous floors as well as the basement. Something you can not explain.

Nor can you explain how no one saw any explosives wiring or construction on any of these floors leading up to 9/11.

Another question no one wants to answer from the troofers, were did the passengers and crew and air craft go from the Penn flight, which you claim never crashed in Penn at all. And same question for the DC flight. Since you all claim a plane never hit the Pentagon.

You have nothing until you can explain these glaring holes in your claims.

 

[eots]

but he doesnt support the bullshit you do
that has already been exposed
you use him dishonestly

exposed ?..lol...he does not support the official theory your beloved popular mechanics embraced...he claims the government actively blocked the investigation and withheld evidence and calls for a new investigation..there is nothing dishonest about it

does he believe the government actually did it?
huh, dipshit?

I don't know if he does ..either do you ..what I do know is he..encourages his peers to become conspiracy theorists..says the investigation was blocked and evidence withheld and calls for a new investigation.....dipshit

 

[eots]

candycorns can only answer the questions with questions

You can not answer the question as we have seen over and over. You can not have it both ways. You can not on one hand claim that there were explosives on or near the floors where the Jets hit yet not explain how they survived the impact, explosion and fire from said impact.

I have no requirement to answer these questions..the responsibility is for nist to show how these buildings could collapse in such a manner without explosives and they have failed

Nor can you explain how supposed explosives were set off nor why we had no evidence of explosions in the basement area. Required if one is going to bring a building down. In fact that large a building would have required explosives on Numerous floors as well as the basement. Something you can not explain.

there is testimony and evidence of explosions they need to be properly disclosed and investigated

Nor can you explain how no one saw any explosives wiring or construction on any of these floors leading up to 9/11.

I can only theorize without a real investigation that exercises its full authority

Another question no one wants to answer from the troofers, were did the passengers and crew and air craft go from the Penn flight, which you claim never crashed in Penn at all. And same question for the DC flight. Since you all claim a plane never hit the Pentagon.

You have nothing until you can explain these glaring holes in your claims

same its all theory with out a real investigation

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

OpEdNews - Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

 

[CurveLight]

Well, that one is an easy one. These buildings are VERY tall. The explosives are put on the lower levels of the building tht was not harmed by the plane. Trapping the people over the top of those floors.
Over 25 witnesses that were IN the building when the planes hit said that after the plane hit the top- middle section of the building... There was a DEFINATE explosion in the very bottom of the building. That is RIGHT AFTER the planes hit.
Candy, if you want to ask questions to answer questions... Well, answer this one.
How did the Jet explosion make an immediate explosion at the very bottom of the buildings?

The obvious answer is elevators containing jet fuel dropping almost 1000'ft make good explosions

Hahahaha! Fucking idiot! Do you think the planes hit and the magical allah carefully kept the fuel intact, opened the elevator doors, closed the doors, then hit S2, then magically kept the fuel from exploding until it hit the basement?

 

[CurveLight]

candycorns can only answer the questions with questions

You can not answer the question as we have seen over and over. You can not have it both ways. You can not on one hand claim that there were explosives on or near the floors where the Jets hit yet not explain how they survived the impact, explosion and fire from said impact.

Nor can you explain how supposed explosives were set off nor why we had no evidence of explosions in the basement area. Required if one is going to bring a building down. In fact that large a building would have required explosives on Numerous floors as well as the basement. Something you can not explain.

Nor can you explain how no one saw any explosives wiring or construction on any of these floors leading up to 9/11.

Another question no one wants to answer from the troofers, were did the passengers and crew and air craft go from the Penn flight, which you claim never crashed in Penn at all. And same question for the DC flight. Since you all claim a plane never hit the Pentagon.

You have nothing until you can explain these glaring holes in your claims.

Speaking of not being able to have it both ways......


If a building like that would require explosives on numerous floors to bring it down after the planes crashed then how did the plane crashes alone cause the collapses?

 

[Fizz]

candycorns can only answer the questions with questions

You can not answer the question as we have seen over and over. You can not have it both ways. You can not on one hand claim that there were explosives on or near the floors where the Jets hit yet not explain how they survived the impact, explosion and fire from said impact.

Nor can you explain how supposed explosives were set off nor why we had no evidence of explosions in the basement area. Required if one is going to bring a building down. In fact that large a building would have required explosives on Numerous floors as well as the basement. Something you can not explain.

Nor can you explain how no one saw any explosives wiring or construction on any of these floors leading up to 9/11.

Another question no one wants to answer from the troofers, were did the passengers and crew and air craft go from the Penn flight, which you claim never crashed in Penn at all. And same question for the DC flight. Since you all claim a plane never hit the Pentagon.

You have nothing until you can explain these glaring holes in your claims.

Speaking of not being able to have it both ways......


If a building like that would require explosives on numerous floors to bring it down after the planes crashed then how did the plane crashes alone cause the collapses?

what a jackass......

you think the plane crash and fires only damaged one floor?

 

[CurveLight]

You can not answer the question as we have seen over and over. You can not have it both ways. You can not on one hand claim that there were explosives on or near the floors where the Jets hit yet not explain how they survived the impact, explosion and fire from said impact.

Nor can you explain how supposed explosives were set off nor why we had no evidence of explosions in the basement area. Required if one is going to bring a building down. In fact that large a building would have required explosives on Numerous floors as well as the basement. Something you can not explain.

Nor can you explain how no one saw any explosives wiring or construction on any of these floors leading up to 9/11.

Another question no one wants to answer from the troofers, were did the passengers and crew and air craft go from the Penn flight, which you claim never crashed in Penn at all. And same question for the DC flight. Since you all claim a plane never hit the Pentagon.

You have nothing until you can explain these glaring holes in your claims.

Speaking of not being able to have it both ways......


If a building like that would require explosives on numerous floors to bring it down after the planes crashed then how did the plane crashes alone cause the collapses?

what a jackass......

you think the plane crash and fires only damaged one floor?

You REALLY REALLY need to learn how to read you astronomically stoopid fuckwad.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Ahh a new " the Government did it stooge" join the current crop. You people need medical help.

no you Bush dupes need medical help.your logic is doesnt matter what all these hundreds of architects and engineers ,scientists,demolition experts and witnesses say many of them very credible being firemen and first responders calling the 9/11 commission report a half baked farce ignoring their testimonys of explosives,you bush dupes need help ignoring what they say but automatically thinking cause the mainstream media and government agencys say its true,that makes it so.time fo you guys to join the loony farm with that kind of logic.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

First off, let me start by saying... We all know that the government lies to us all the time. They pull wool over our face and the programmed stooges that believe what their told by the government. A large population as well as myself see too many holes in the story.
When the government can't answer certain parts of there story... I don't see how anybody can believe them at all.
Here's the answer:

The government was tipped-off and knew 4 months prior that this attack was going to take place.
The government had two options- 1) Stop the terrorists and life goes on. 2) Turn this attack into a public relations love fest and reap the benefits.
"By reaping the benefits" One example, of many, is having the ability to take constitutional rights from us by passing a long, yet never passed until 9/11, proposed bill.
The government chose the latter.
The attacks happen. 9/11 is one of the darkest days in U.S. History. The world is behind us.
The buildings fall like a well planned implosion... Witnesses that are questioned on the news... On 9/11 said "They heard over 3 explosions after the planes hit. Yet, we are told that the only things that caused the building to fall were the planes.
Another WTC buiding falls from "Supposed" heat from the two attacks. The building also fell like a perfect implosion.
The debris of 9/11 was searched through with a fine tooth comb.
The first time in history! The black boxes were not located. They never surfaced.
Over 20 Workers of the 9/11 search witness the finding of one black box.
The FBI has said "That there are somethings that people don't need to know. This is one of them."
The Official Report comes out and has too many holes for the government to answer.
They don't even go into depth on the third WTC building to fall... Like it never happened.

What is on that tape of the black boxes that the "FBI" sheepishly denies?
Why can't the FBI say that the workers are liars and they didn't find the black box?
If you don't believe the government would attack and kill their own... Check out "Operation Northwoods"
Why did the government take advantage of the darkest moment in US history by passing bills that take away some constitutional rights (Patriot Act)?


This is the best answer with the least amount of holes.

also dont forget that the air traffic controllers said the traffic control supervisor took out the tape that recorded the flights and tore it up and threw it in a waste basket and yet did not get fired for that negligence.these people are so much in denial or that the evidence at the towers was removed illegally and shipped off overseas. these 9/11 official conspiracy theorists here crack me up with their logic and are so much in denial.they know as well as we do that if they remove evidence at a crime scene or destroy it like that FAA supervising traffic controller did,they would be arrested,yet NOBODY got arrested for breaking the law doing that that day.

Thats whats such a joke about the commission is they say that it was mere incompetence.well if it was mere incompetence,their should have been multiple heads rolling with tons of firings like General Myers at Norad and that traffic supervisor,yet none of those people lost their jobs and instead recieved promotions by Bush.yet they dont think it was an inside job.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Dogbert, I am glad you follow more than one of my threads.
If you have been following me... You also have heard me say this:
I appreciate your opinion and understand your thoughts of that thread. You are entitled to your opinion for this is the USA. You can do that.

I didn't hear you deny any of these facts dogbert?
Hmmm... Makes me think that maybe you agree.

No, this is not the USA, this is USMB.

The Administrators could ban you tomorrow if they so pleased if you did something against board rules, and you could yell "freedom of speech" all you like but it means nothing.

They aren't facts, it's truther bullshit already disproven in a hundred other threads on here. Your insane ideas are nothing original truther, go read some of the other threads before making another one.

lies as always by the falsers.These are facts,he knows it,he cant refute them and it has never been disproven in any threads.on the contrary,there have been dozens of threads that prove the official version to be pure bullshit.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

no thats a ridiculous answer as the fuel was consumed in the initial fire ball then rapidly turned to thick black smoke

exactly,thats the REAL answer.HIS answer is such a joke its so retarded.Slackwells answer is the CORRECT response.

 

[Fizz]

Ahh a new " the Government did it stooge" join the current crop. You people need medical help.

no you Bush dupes need medical help.your logic is doesnt matter what all these hundreds of architects and engineers ,scientists,demolition experts and witnesses say many of them very credible being firemen and first responders calling the 9/11 commission report a half baked farce ignoring their testimonys of explosives,you bush dupes need help ignoring what they say but automatically thinking cause the mainstream media and government agencys say its true,that makes it so.time fo you guys to join the loony farm with that kind of logic.

and what percentage of the total number of worldwide architects and engineers is "hundreds" that support your position? because in the USA alone there are 1,750,000 WORKING architects and engineers. your list also includes retired people, non-working people and people that are not architects or engineers and simply build swimming pools.

its insignificant. the fact that you keep bringing it up proves how whacky your conspiracy claims are and what a complete moron you are personally.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Here comes agent Fizz the government stooge as always.funny how this troll is always here immediately to defend the official version all the time.lol.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Candycorn, YOU NEVER HEARD OF THE EXPLOSION AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING?
WHY ARE YOU ARGUING THEN? LOOK AT ALL OF THE FACTS! William Rodrigues was one of the last people out of the second 9/11 building. NOT ONLY DOES HE SAY THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION! HE IS ONE OF 25!!! YOU HAVE THE INTERNET LOOK IT UP!
I JUST WATCHED THE VIDEO ON IT AND IF YOU CONTINUE TO SHOW YOUR IGNORANCE I WILL POST IT!

Scientist have PROVEN 100% that there was explosion residue in the debri! SONNY!

thats something the 9/11 official conspiracy theory apologists here ALWAYS ignore but cant get around, that scientists found explosive residule in the debris.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The best question of all is HOW DID THE BUILDINGS FALL SO FAST? Nobody can explain this either!

You know you people should just look at all of the facts before you insult people and once again show your ignorance!
You can call me whatever you want (Retards, dumbasses, truthers etc.) That just proves that you cannot explain what I am asking!
WAIT! DON'T FEEL BAD! NOR CAN OUR GOVERNMENT!

they cant refute the facts and evidence so like the trolls they are,they always start in with their name calling and insults typical of falsers and a troll tactic of theirs.