7 to 8 Thousand Year Old Bog People In Florida Were 'White' European Says DNA

[blastoff]

This is good news to hear. It shows that Whites were here long before the Indians which means the Real Americans were White and that blows the Native Americans claims out the water.

This IS good to hear!!!

GO WHITE PEOPLE!!!

Bring back the Fighting Whities!

And, tell them Injuns to fork over those casinos, pronto.

 

[Bill O'Olberman]

 

[RDD_1210]

This is one of the best threads on here in a long time.

In the same thread, we have someone who is actually excited that white people may have been here before Indians. Excited! And is "proud" of this. I wonder if he is eternally ashamed because of what Hitler did, since he too was white? LOL at being proud for something you had nothing to do with. Oh and there is no "white race", FYI.

THEN, we have someone else claiming that there were Christians before there was Christ. I LOVE IT! Endless laughs at this forum.

 

[lizzie]

What about Darfur? Instigated by whites?

Isn't everything that is evil instigated by whites?

 

[Ravi]

Can you imagine how fast FucktardFakeUSARMYRetard's head would explode if it turned out the DNA was similar to someone from the Congo?

 

[lizzie]

So- back to the original thread content and purpose of discussion, from reading the three links, unless I missed some critical information, it sounds like the DNA study is being held up and repressed by Army Corps of Engineers, due to political pressure from native American groups. It's hard to believe that we are bowing to this kind of pressure, based on tribal wishes not to know the truth, either way.

 

[Ringel05]

 

[loosecannon]

What is wrong with being proud of your race and it's vast achievements?

Because pride is something that should be reserved for personal accomplishments.

So then you feel the same way when Other races talk about being proud of their race? or just when whites do? Just curious.

racial pride, and racial identification is the core of racism. It may even be the definition of racism.

It makes little difference whether you think one race superior or not, everybody selfishly considers their group superior.

What matters is whether you promote racial polarity. Internally via your own identification, externally via your cultural identifications and politically via institutional racism.

Assimilation is the remedy for racism. Spending 1000 years isolated within a larger dominant culture while still maintaining a distinct subculture, language, and identity is racist. And it makes it easy for conflict to emerge.

Societies are bound or united by being collectives. "All for one, one for all", "one of our own" etc.

 

[Avatar4321]

Some people have such a hard time thinking outside of the box.

 

[Trajan]

This is good news to hear. It shows that Whites were here long before the Indians which means the Real Americans were White and that blows the Native Americans claims out the water.

This IS good to hear!!!

GO WHITE PEOPLE!!!

 

[Trajan]

This is good news to hear. It shows that Whites were here long before the Indians which means the Real Americans were White and that blows the Native Americans claims out the water.

This IS good to hear!!!

GO WHITE PEOPLE!!!

Now we have a good excuse for those smallpox blankets!

why? are you British?

 

[Trajan]

I kind ouf doubt this and also kind of have to agree with it. there have been arguments about this back and forth for a long time.

First the problem with the DNA thing is, Humanity outside of Africa seems to have come from a very small population. there is a very small level of diversity in DNA of all groups outside of Africa. There is less genetic diversity between an Englishman and and japanese than there is between an african from Nigeria and and african from Angola. It is like when Humans colonized the rest of the world outside of Sub Saharan africa, they were from a very small part of the African population. Since the level of diversity in DNA from Non african stocks is so minute, it is really hard to tell.


The next problem is that when Humans colonized the Americas during the last ice age, we don't know if there were there two migrations heading in from Europe and Asia both, or only one from Asia. Only from Asia has the advantage of a land bridge, but it was bitterly cold and very narrow.

From both directions requires sailing across the north atlantic for long distances, which while conceivable, is unlikely. The distances traveled by boat would be a lot shorter than now, of course. Even so that kind of sailing in the north atlantic durning an ice age seems impossible. Even though humans sailed over the south pacific for even longer distances to colonize new places the idea of sailing long distances in the North Atlantic is a different kettle of herring. Humans have done all kind of impossible stuff during their migrations, so sailing the North Atlantic in the summer from landfall to landfall is not impossible.

Early european settlers noted that the east coast indians did seem to have a german style grammar.

It may have happend that the ones coming in from the west may have arrived at the same time and that natural conditions favored the mixing of the populations to have yet another skin color and another morphological norm. And the ones from Asia may just have been culturally or in some other way a better fit for the new environment. The European ones may have been competed out. The fact that our ancient cousins lost the genetic supremacy battle is not a reason to crow.

thank you. nice post.

I'd like to spend a moment on the completely absurd....lets say for a moment that they find evidence of oh, a massacre, or series of such, evidence that appears to sppt. and equate to a systemic/genocidal beat down of the 'collectives' that was made up of these new found remains etc.?

And finds among the remains points to perpetrators who share the genetic disposition of 'red man' or that is what we have classified or now classify as 'natives', or 'Americans Indians...


hummmmm, what do you suppose the reaction would be?

 

[Ravi]

I kind ouf doubt this and also kind of have to agree with it. there have been arguments about this back and forth for a long time.

First the problem with the DNA thing is, Humanity outside of Africa seems to have come from a very small population. there is a very small level of diversity in DNA of all groups outside of Africa. There is less genetic diversity between an Englishman and and japanese than there is between an african from Nigeria and and african from Angola. It is like when Humans colonized the rest of the world outside of Sub Saharan africa, they were from a very small part of the African population. Since the level of diversity in DNA from Non african stocks is so minute, it is really hard to tell.


The next problem is that when Humans colonized the Americas during the last ice age, we don't know if there were there two migrations heading in from Europe and Asia both, or only one from Asia. Only from Asia has the advantage of a land bridge, but it was bitterly cold and very narrow.

From both directions requires sailing across the north atlantic for long distances, which while conceivable, is unlikely. The distances traveled by boat would be a lot shorter than now, of course. Even so that kind of sailing in the north atlantic durning an ice age seems impossible. Even though humans sailed over the south pacific for even longer distances to colonize new places the idea of sailing long distances in the North Atlantic is a different kettle of herring. Humans have done all kind of impossible stuff during their migrations, so sailing the North Atlantic in the summer from landfall to landfall is not impossible.

Early european settlers noted that the east coast indians did seem to have a german style grammar.

It may have happend that the ones coming in from the west may have arrived at the same time and that natural conditions favored the mixing of the populations to have yet another skin color and another morphological norm. And the ones from Asia may just have been culturally or in some other way a better fit for the new environment. The European ones may have been competed out. The fact that our ancient cousins lost the genetic supremacy battle is not a reason to crow.

thank you. nice post.

I'd like to spend a moment on the completely absurd....lets say for a moment that they find evidence of oh, a massacre, or series of such, evidence that appears to sppt. and equate to a systemic/genocidal beat down of the 'collectives' that was made up of these new found remains etc.?

And finds among the remains points to perpetrators who share the genetic disposition of 'red man' or that is what we have classified or now classify as 'natives', or 'Americans Indians...


hummmmm, what do you suppose the reaction would be?

It would mean that YOU are responsible for slavery.

 

[loosecannon]

Some people have such a hard time thinking outside of the box.

?

 

[Sheldon]

This is good news to hear. It shows that Whites were here long before the Indians which means the Real Americans were White and that blows the Native Americans claims out the water. It appears many of our ancestors practiced mummification, built pyramids, and were quite more advanced than other peoples at that time. Can't wait to see what the Indians will say to this

Read this about armies of Aryan White Men living in the western USA in ancient times:
Kennewick Man | Tri-City Herald : Mid-Columbia news

Special Report: A Battle Over Bones

NOVA | The Perfect Corpse | America's Bog People | PBS

YouTube - DNA of The Florida Windover Bog Mummies - Europeans Are the REAL First Americans - 2 of 2.avi

Florida State Crackers.

Nope. It just doesn't have the same ring to it as Seminoles. Sorry.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I hate to disturb you fundies, but this might just prove Joseph Smith and the Mormons right!

lol

Looks like the Florida tradition of being a haven for really old Jews is older than we thought.

 

[Ravi]

This is good news to hear. It shows that Whites were here long before the Indians which means the Real Americans were White and that blows the Native Americans claims out the water. It appears many of our ancestors practiced mummification, built pyramids, and were quite more advanced than other peoples at that time. Can't wait to see what the Indians will say to this

Read this about armies of Aryan White Men living in the western USA in ancient times:
Kennewick Man | Tri-City Herald : Mid-Columbia news

Special Report: A Battle Over Bones

NOVA | The Perfect Corpse | America's Bog People | PBS

YouTube - DNA of The Florida Windover Bog Mummies - Europeans Are the REAL First Americans - 2 of 2.avi

Florida State Crackers.

Nope. It just doesn't have the same ring to it as Seminoles. Sorry.

Florida State Saltines. Have some class.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Google is so awesomely insidious. This thread is generating a banner ad for Native American DNA testing.

lol

 

[Sheldon]

This is good news to hear. It shows that Whites were here long before the Indians which means the Real Americans were White and that blows the Native Americans claims out the water. It appears many of our ancestors practiced mummification, built pyramids, and were quite more advanced than other peoples at that time. Can't wait to see what the Indians will say to this

Read this about armies of Aryan White Men living in the western USA in ancient times:
Kennewick Man | Tri-City Herald : Mid-Columbia news

Special Report: A Battle Over Bones

NOVA | The Perfect Corpse | America's Bog People | PBS

YouTube - DNA of The Florida Windover Bog Mummies - Europeans Are the REAL First Americans - 2 of 2.avi

Florida State Crackers.

Nope. It just doesn't have the same ring to it as Seminoles. Sorry.

Florida State Saltines. Have some class.

This should be the OP's new avatar.

 

[Ozmar]

Florida State Crackers.

Nope. It just doesn't have the same ring to it as Seminoles. Sorry.

Florida State Saltines. Have some class.

This should be the OP's new avatar.