7 Reasons Why You Should Home School Your Kids

[Moonglow]

Expect to see another snowflake explosion in the next few years as these kids venture out into the real world for the first time. I am not saying every one will be, just that there will be some who need to untie Momma's apron strings.

It is curious that double-entry accounting is not about the real world. A year ago a business woman told me that the housing bubble of 2008 would not have happened if accounting had been mandatory since the 60s. But an economist said it would not matter.

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Educators with degrees could have been suggesting books to kids even if the books were not used in class or tested for.

It is like the Conservatives and the Liberals are about maintaining controlled ignorance, they just want different forms of ignorance.

Why the obsession with ancient accounting? Is there anything else you care about, like buggy whips, typewriters, cathode ray TVs?

I like the old adding machines that could imprint a check...Free money...

 

[hadit]

Parents Look to Home Schooling As Leftists Take Over Public Schools

Part of it is the school shootings. But more of it comes from a kickback against Leftist agendas. Parents no longer tolerate their children being propagandized and want them to learn what matters.

The homeschooling movement has ballooned from 1.5 million to estimates of more than 2 million now. Since most states aren’t required to count the number of homeschooling families, it’s still a guessing game. But there’s one thing everyone agrees on: more parents are making the leap — and fast.

More @ Parents Look to Home Schooling As Leftists Take Over Public Schools

Expect to see another snowflake explosion in the next few years as these kids venture out into the real world for the first time. I am not saying every one will be, just that there will be some who need to untie Momma's apron strings.

That happens now with kids who go to government schools. It's not a substantive complaint. Good parents will make sure their kids are ready for life, no matter where they go to school. In fact, given the way colleges are acting, it can be argued that we're trying to extend childhood for today's government schooled children. They demand safe places and tend to live in their parents' houses well past the time they should be on their own. Obamadon'tcare lets them stay on their parents' health insurance well into adulthood, etc. Home schooling is not going to make that appreciably worse.

It also happens with homeschooled kids. THAT was my point. You people need to get out more and see the disasters of home schooling. There are wonderful successes, but we will suffer from those disasters that we allowed to happen.

I was recently taking with an Army recruit who told me that he was homeschooled and how much it embarrassed him to say so. He freely admitted to me, "I need an education, because I don't know anything!" He claimed his parents did nothing to educate him other than provide him the books to read. He had no practical knowledge and he feared not qualifying for the military academically. He did this with no idea of my background as a public school teacher.

Anecdotal evidence does not the pattern prove. There are multiple scenarios at play here.

1 Good parents, bad schools. Kids have a chance to succeed.
2 Bad parents, good schools. Going to be tough for the kids.
3 Bad parents, bad schools. Good luck, kids, you'll need it.
4 Good parents, good schools. High chance of success.
5 Good parents, home school. Very high chance of success.

In no way does your anecdote prove that home schooling is a bad thing. It is not lowering the already low rate of government school success, for example.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Why the obsession with ancient accounting? Is there anything else you care about, like buggy whips, typewriters, cathode ray TVs?

Ancient Accounting?

Aren't today's computers using software that implements the concepts of double-entry accounting? The code just does what people have done manually for centuries.

I have seen Depreciation discussed in an accounting book from the 19th century. But consumers did not buy cars and air conditioners back then.

So if all high school students knew accounting they could easily be made aware of their losses on all of the consumer junk. Depreciation on computes:

https://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/feds/2004/200431/200431pap.pdf

But we are not told about passive backplane designs.

 

[Unkotare]

Why the obsession with ancient accounting? Is there anything else you care about, like buggy whips, typewriters, cathode ray TVs?

Ancient Accounting?

Aren't today's computers using software that implements the concepts of double-entry accounting? The code just does what people have done manually for centuries.

I have seen Depreciation discussed in an accounting book from the 19th century. But consumers did not buy cars and air conditioners back then.

So if all high school students knew accounting they could easily be made aware of their losses on all of the consumer junk. Depreciation on computes:

https://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/feds/2004/200431/200431pap.pdf

But we are not told about passive backplane designs.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Why the obsession with ancient accounting? Is there anything else you care about, like buggy whips, typewriters, cathode ray TVs?

This is from Nov 2017:

What Is Double-Entry Accounting? Here Are 6 Apps to Help You Balance the Books | GetApp®

The fundamentals do not change with age.

What we call Newtonian Physics is really billions of years old. Newton just figured it out several centuries ago.

Understanding the accounting is still needful even though the computers do the busywork.

So much of the talk on this site is about education to get a job but then not much about how to manage the money afterwards. If accounting had been mandatory since the 60s maybe so many people would not need jobs and would have homes paid for. What would that do to the economy?

That is the trouble with so many educators with degrees. Could not figure out what information is important. So we wasted time and money on the unimportant.

 

[Unkotare]

Why the obsession with ancient accounting? Is there anything else you care about, like buggy whips, typewriters, cathode ray TVs?

This is from Nov 2017:

What Is Double-Entry Accounting? Here Are 6 Apps to Help You Balance the Books | GetApp®

The fundamentals do not change with age.

What we call Newtonian Physics is really billions of years old. Newton just figured it out several centuries ago.

Understanding the accounting is still needful even though the computers do the busywork.

So much of the talk on this site is about education to get a job but then not much about how to manage the money afterwards. If accounting had been mandatory since the 60s maybe so many people would not need jobs and would have homes paid for. What would that do to the economy?

That is the trouble with so many educators with degrees. Could not figure out what information is important. So we wasted time and money on the unimportant.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Parents Look to Home Schooling As Leftists Take Over Public Schools

Part of it is the school shootings. But more of it comes from a kickback against Leftist agendas. Parents no longer tolerate their children being propagandized and want them to learn what matters.

The homeschooling movement has ballooned from 1.5 million to estimates of more than 2 million now. Since most states aren’t required to count the number of homeschooling families, it’s still a guessing game. But there’s one thing everyone agrees on: more parents are making the leap — and fast.

More @ Parents Look to Home Schooling As Leftists Take Over Public Schools

Expect to see another snowflake explosion in the next few years as these kids venture out into the real world for the first time. I am not saying every one will be, just that there will be some who need to untie Momma's apron strings.

That happens now with kids who go to government schools. It's not a substantive complaint. Good parents will make sure their kids are ready for life, no matter where they go to school. In fact, given the way colleges are acting, it can be argued that we're trying to extend childhood for today's government schooled children. They demand safe places and tend to live in their parents' houses well past the time they should be on their own. Obamadon'tcare lets them stay on their parents' health insurance well into adulthood, etc. Home schooling is not going to make that appreciably worse.

It also happens with homeschooled kids. THAT was my point. You people need to get out more and see the disasters of home schooling. There are wonderful successes, but we will suffer from those disasters that we allowed to happen.

I was recently taking with an Army recruit who told me that he was homeschooled and how much it embarrassed him to say so. He freely admitted to me, "I need an education, because I don't know anything!" He claimed his parents did nothing to educate him other than provide him the books to read. He had no practical knowledge and he feared not qualifying for the military academically. He did this with no idea of my background as a public school teacher.

Anecdotal evidence does not the pattern prove. There are multiple scenarios at play here.

1 Good parents, bad schools. Kids have a chance to succeed.
2 Bad parents, good schools. Going to be tough for the kids.
3 Bad parents, bad schools. Good luck, kids, you'll need it.
4 Good parents, good schools. High chance of success.
5 Good parents, home school. Very high chance of success.

In no way does your anecdote prove that home schooling is a bad thing. It is not lowering the already low rate of government school success, for example.

My anecdotes are made up of years of trying to salvage the human educational refuse thet homeschooling parents pawned off on the public schools and put their children years behind their peers. You can call it anecdotes, but I call it definitive evidence that not all homeschooling is successful.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why the obsession with ancient accounting? Is there anything else you care about, like buggy whips, typewriters, cathode ray TVs?

This is from Nov 2017:

What Is Double-Entry Accounting? Here Are 6 Apps to Help You Balance the Books | GetApp®

The fundamentals do not change with age.

What we call Newtonian Physics is really billions of years old. Newton just figured it out several centuries ago.

Understanding the accounting is still needful even though the computers do the busywork.

So much of the talk on this site is about education to get a job but then not much about how to manage the money afterwards. If accounting had been mandatory since the 60s maybe so many people would not need jobs and would have homes paid for. What would that do to the economy?

That is the trouble with so many educators with degrees. Could not figure out what information is important. So we wasted time and money on the unimportant.

I don't know much about bookkeeping and it hasn't hurt me, and I keep the books for my church, I have been through about 1o years of audits with no difficulties, so I wonder why you place so much importance on common sense application of mathematics.

 

[eagle1462010]

Homeschooling only succeeds if the parents are smart enough and have the time to teach their kids.................It can work and it can be a disaster..............depends on the people..............

Brother n law tried to teach his kids.............home school..........one kid was jam up and great grades...other was a wreck..........we had the kids at my home for a time to get them in a better school district.............and his daughter was completely lost...............took tons of time to teach her and she was set back a year in the public school.............Other just finished College with Straight A's in Electrical Engineering...............

 

[psikeyhackr]

I don't know much about bookkeeping and it hasn't hurt me, and I keep the books for my church, I have been through about 1o years of audits with no difficulties, so I wonder why you place so much importance on common sense application of mathematics.

How many high school graduates know what Net Worth is? I have never seen a survey of that?

Maybe this is informative:

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Severe debt can cause depression and even suicide

So I am wondering what the economy would be like today if it had been mandatory since the 60s. We cannot go back and change history, we can only decide what to do from this point on.

All of these education topics, but not specifying what relevant education is seems very strange to me. The Socialist high school teacher that objected to mandatory on the grounds that the math would manke Capitalism seem logical apparently has a perspective rather different from yours.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I don't know much about bookkeeping and it hasn't hurt me, and I keep the books for my church, I have been through about 1o years of audits with no difficulties, so I wonder why you place so much importance on common sense application of mathematics.

How many high school graduates know what Net Worth is? I have never seen a survey of that?

Maybe this is informative:

What My Mom's Suicide Taught Me about Money

Credit Card Industry Preys On Students, Critics Charge

Severe debt can cause depression and even suicide

So I am wondering what the economy would be like today if it had been mandatory since the 60s. We cannot go back and change history, we can only decide what to do from this point on.

All of these education topics, but not specifying what relevant education is seems very strange to me. The Socialist high school teacher that objected to mandatory on the grounds that the math would manke Capitalism seem logical apparently has a perspective rather different from yours.

Why would a high school student care what net worth is?

I think you are a bit arrogant in your assumptions of what is necessary to function in life.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Why would a high school student care what net worth is?

I think you are a bit arrogant in your assumptions of what is necessary to function in life.

I said high school graduate not high school student. Is this a reading comprehension problem?

Why would a high school student care what a hypotenuse is? Is that more important for most people than Net Worth for the rest of their lives. Isn't high school preparation for the FUTURE?

Professional educators do seem to make a big deal of the unimportant but complex and ignore the important but simple.

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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why would a high school student care what net worth is?

I think you are a bit arrogant in your assumptions of what is necessary to function in life.

I said high school graduate not high school student. Is this a reading comprehension problem?

Why would a high school student care what a hypotenuse is? Is that more important for most people than Net Worth for the rest of their lives. Isn't high school preparation for the FUTURE?

Professional educators do seem to make a big deal of the unimportant but complex and ignore the important but simple.

Consumer debt set to reach record $4 trillion by the end of the year

Economic Wargames: How the economic model is unsustainable and enslaving.

Yes, as a matter of fact it is much more important to know the hypotenuse than the definition of net worth. I am 57 years old, retired from two different teaching position and served in the military. I have yet to have a need for my net worth.

You are confused and no one cares about net worth, because it could be explained in about 2 minutes for those who need it, and a knowledge of accounting procedures is imply not required.

Accountants are well-known for over emphasizing their skill with numbers. I often had students with parents who were accountants doing poorly in math. I found out it was because anything beyond adding and subtracting was a foreign concept to their parents.

 

[psikeyhackr]

You are confused and no one cares about net worth, because it could be explained in about 2 minutes for those who need it, and a knowledge of accounting procedures is imply not required.

So your concept of knowledge is memorizing a definition? That is about typical for the teachers I have had.

50% of Americans have a Net Worth of less than $100,000. 30% have less than $30,000.

United States Net Worth Brackets, Percentiles, and Top One Percent - DQYDJ

My point is that if UNDERSTANDING accounting had been promoted since the early 60s would this be the case now? Like reading Romeo & Juliet and the Mayor of Casterbridge was SO IMPORTANT!

We need to pay the salaries of so many teachers pushing useless junk so they can retire and regard their lives as a success.

With accounting being 700 years old, older than printing actually, how can there not be plenty of public domain books on the subject.

Accounting Fundamentals (1947)
by Macfarland,George A.; Ayars,Robert D.
Accounting Fundamentals : Macfarland,George A. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Principles Of Accounting (1953)
by Finney,H.A.; Miller,Herbert E.
Principles Of Accounting : Finney,H.A. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Accounting Principles (1976)
by Thacker, Ronald James
Accounting principles : Thacker, Ronald James : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Who needs teachers?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You are confused and no one cares about net worth, because it could be explained in about 2 minutes for those who need it, and a knowledge of accounting procedures is imply not required.

So your concept of knowledge is memorizing a definition.

50% of Americans have a Net Worth of less than $100,000. 30% have less than $30,000.

United States Net Worth Brackets, Percentiles, and Top One Percent - DQYDJ

My point is that if UNDERSTANDING accounting had been promoted since the early 60s would this be the case now? Like reading Romeo & Juliet and the Mayor of Casterbridge was SO IMPORTANT!

We need to pay the salaries of so many teachers pushing useless junk so they can retire and regard their lives as a success.

Exactly!

So 80% of Americans don't give a shit about net worth, so what the fuck does accounting do to solve that problem. Not a damn thing!

That would be useless junk to 80% of Americans and I can say without a doubt that teaching accounting for that purpose would be a waste of fucking time!

Do you get it now?

Are you feeling me yet?

Catch a damn clue, nimrod bean counter!

 

[psikeyhackr]

Exactly!

So 80% of Americans don't give a shit about net worth, so what the fuck does accounting do to solve that problem. Not a damn thing!

That would be useless junk to 80% of Americans and I can say without a doubt that teaching accounting for that purpose would be a waste of fucking time!

Do you get it now?

Are you feeling me yet?

I wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole.

You want the losers to stay losers and say it is their fault and then call yourself an educator.

Not surprising our schools are so crappy!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Exactly!

So 80% of Americans don't give a shit about net worth, so what the fuck does accounting do to solve that problem. Not a damn thing!

That would be useless junk to 80% of Americans and I can say without a doubt that teaching accounting for that purpose would be a waste of fucking time!

Do you get it now?

Are you feeling me yet?

I wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole.

You want the losers to stay losers and say it is their fault and then call yourself an educator.

Not surprising our schools are so crappy!

You want the students studying buggy whips, typewriters and dial telephones!

When you get a degree in education so you will know why curriculum is built the way it is built, then maybe you will change your mind. Until then, you are just a cranky bastard who has no clue about education. Learning "double-entry" accounting has never hurt me nor my wife or three children who are all quite successful. I have no idea why you locked on to this bizarre belief, but I'll bet I am not the only one on this forum that considers it just a little hint of mental illness.

 

[psikeyhackr]

You want the students studying buggy whips, typewriters and dial telephones!

Your argument is BS. People using software that does the double-entry accounting still need to comprehend what is being done.

You are simply content to use the so called educational system to sabotage plenty of kids to maintain this class structure nonsense.

I worked for IBM. Plenty of System Engineers and Customer Engineers did not understand electricity. They were just silly job titles.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You want the students studying buggy whips, typewriters and dial telephones!

Your argument is BS. People using software that does the double-entry accounting still need to comprehend what is being done.

You are simply content to use the so called educational system to sabotage plenty of kids to maintain this class structure nonsense.

I worked for IBM. Plenty of System Engineers and Customer Engineers did not understand electricity. They were just silly job titles.

Logic is just not your strong suit. Absolutely none of your rambling responses have anything to do with reality. I suggest seeking professional help.

Class structure has NOTHING to do with this! Can't you see that? You want to waste class time on an antiquated system that no longer has any applicability to daily life for the vast majority of people.

I have NEVER taken an accounting class and I guarantee I can run circles around you and just about everyone else in application of mathematics. You can't say that!

 

[psikeyhackr]

Logic is just not your strong suit. Absolutely none of your rambling responses have anything to do with reality. I suggest seeking professional help.

Class structure has NOTHING to do with this! Can't you see that? You want to waste class time on an antiquated system that no longer has any applicability to daily life for the vast majority of people.

I have NEVER taken an accounting class and I guarantee I can run circles around you and just about everyone else in application of mathematics. You can't say that!

Yeah Right! Like this is about ego playing games with YOU.

All anyone needs to do is Google:

accounting degree salary

or

accounting courses

to see how many millions of hits they get and what they have to do with buggy whips. Responding to your silliness is not worth any more time.

Home Schoolers should simply use the Public Domain accounting books.