60 Years of Apartheid

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    I know there will be some who do not agree with this post but we also believe in freedom of speech in this nation. Whenever I marvel at how well Israel has done I also consider the other side of that coin. Today we have support staff there, globalization, really technology, has sure changed this world. If only we could get along.

    Israel's Grim Anniversary By Sharon Smith

    "South Africa’s white minority government was finally overthrown in 1993, after decades of black popular and working-class resistance. That year, the black majority democratically elected the African National Congress--previously derided as a “terrorist” organization by apartheid’s imperial supporters, including the U.S.--to lead its government. Freedom fighter Nelson Mandela, having spent 27 years in a South African prison and reviled as an international terrorist, was reinvented in the Western press as an elder statesman.

    Now the apartheid state of Israel fears it will meet the same fate from its own oppressed, and growing, Palestinian population. While Israel’s proponents continue to rhetorically claim that the Zionist state is the only bulwark against another Holocaust, its leaders also continue to openly express its true identification with South Africa’s racist regime."

    http://www.counterpunch.org/sharon05222008.html
     
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    i'e made that same pint many times over.


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    Not a valid point. This asserations has many inaccuracies.
    (1) Israel didn't acquire the West Bank and Gaza until '67. That so 41 years is better math. Do you not think its ironic that Egypt and Jordan respectfully refused to give the Palestinians Gaza and WB when they occupied it? Isn't Ironic that the Palestinians opposition were expelled from Jordan after they revolted early on, so that the Palestinians couldn't make similar claims to Jordan?

    (2) Israel has not annexed the West Bank and Gaza and want to create a Palestinian State. They have tried to negotiate for one many times, but when Israel won't agree to either mass-suicide or taking on millions of enemies of the state the negotiations break down.

    (3) The Palestinians aren't Israeli citizens they are Palestinians. The PA now governs them. They were given authority when Ara'fatass was in charge.

    (4) The Arab Israelis receive the same rights as Jewish Israelis: (1) They get 1 vote like every citizen, (2) They have rights to own land, (3) Freedom of Speech, (4) Freedom to Petition and Protest the government, (5) Right to a trial, (6) Right to public services, (7) Right to serve in the army, (8) Right to hold political office (There are Arab Mayors, MKs, municipal workers and even an Arab Supreme Court justice), (9) Right to freely practice their religion, (10) The right to work and own businesses, (11) the right to form political parties, etc. In fact the Arabs in Israel have more rights that Arabs in majority of Arab countries.
     
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    http://www.counterpunch.org/sharon05222008.html[/QUOTE]

    I just read the whole article! What a crock of shit from an obvious antisemitic biased writer who ignores all the facts. I love the Olmert quote, to which she butchered the quote for her own slanderous motives. Olmert stated stating that its about absolutely necessary for Israel to create a Palestinian state, to which the vast majority of Israelis agree with, because the alternative would be a apartheid regime. They never identify with the South African regime that is bogus slander. Compare apples to apples asshole. If you are going to compare the South African Blacks, then compare them to the Israeli Arabs! The comparison stops there.

    Fucking anti-semites have not souls!
     
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    i told ya, dude.


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    Outed? Yeah...damn jews who refuse to lay down and die for you. lol...

    apparently the DofA hasn't done a very good job of outreach if you're any indication. :eusa_hand:
     
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    WHy, he's a fucking lib dumbass. Makes maineman look like Einstein.
     

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