6 dead in shooting in Germany......er....gun control? But...But...gun control?

[2aguy]

Yeah.....political parties have belief systems....when they have power they implement them through their policies.....

 

[BULLDOG]

Only six, and it is a really big thing. We have more than that many every day. We should do what they are doing.

And if their people wanted to do it more, they would do it more....culture, not guns, is the issue.....

And please explain the following...and answer the questions...

n the U.S. as more Americans not only own guns, but now carry them for self defense, our gun murder rate went down 49%...

With what you believe....how do you explain that?

In the U.S. as more Americans not only own but now carry guns our gun crime rate went down 75%....

With what you believe,.....how do you explain that?

In the U.S. as more Americans not only own guns but carry them for self defense, our violent crime rate went down 72%.....

With what you believe, how do you explain that?

Nothing you believe about guns is supported by actual facts, the truth, or reality on the ground......how do you justify your believes beyond simply not liking guns?

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Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....

More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.

Actual Result:

In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%

The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....

In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.



Whatever the crime rate does......as more Americans owned more guns the crime rate did not go up....so again...

Please provide quote(s) where I have ever said I oppose guns, or the right of Americans to own guns. I often advocate reasonable regulation of who can purchase them, and types of guns available, but regulation is not infringement.

I often advocate reasonable regulation of who can purchase them, and types of guns available, but regulation is not infringement.

When your regulations, bans and taxe, fees keep normal people from being able to afford guns and limit their access based on your feelings about guns, that is an infringement.....

When democrats kept Blacks from sitting at lunch counters or using the same bathrooms as white democrats, that was an infringement......they didn't get to say who could use the bathrooms, what kind of seating was available for blacks......those regulations were an infringement...

Went down from what to what.?
Still way higher than really civilized countries
And ps who do you think the current KKK is?
Dems?
Your def of normal is pathetic.
Super scared pantywaists you mean?

All 6 of the kkk members? They don't support conservative republicans......and have more in common with the racists in the democrat party.

That's not what it says in the KKK newspaper. They support him 100%. I wonder why.

 

[2aguy]

And if their people wanted to do it more, they would do it more....culture, not guns, is the issue.....

And please explain the following...and answer the questions...

n the U.S. as more Americans not only own guns, but now carry them for self defense, our gun murder rate went down 49%...

With what you believe....how do you explain that?

In the U.S. as more Americans not only own but now carry guns our gun crime rate went down 75%....

With what you believe,.....how do you explain that?

In the U.S. as more Americans not only own guns but carry them for self defense, our violent crime rate went down 72%.....

With what you believe, how do you explain that?

Nothing you believe about guns is supported by actual facts, the truth, or reality on the ground......how do you justify your believes beyond simply not liking guns?

------
Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....

More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.

Actual Result:

In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%

The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....

In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.



Whatever the crime rate does......as more Americans owned more guns the crime rate did not go up....so again...

Please provide quote(s) where I have ever said I oppose guns, or the right of Americans to own guns. I often advocate reasonable regulation of who can purchase them, and types of guns available, but regulation is not infringement.

I often advocate reasonable regulation of who can purchase them, and types of guns available, but regulation is not infringement.

When your regulations, bans and taxe, fees keep normal people from being able to afford guns and limit their access based on your feelings about guns, that is an infringement.....

When democrats kept Blacks from sitting at lunch counters or using the same bathrooms as white democrats, that was an infringement......they didn't get to say who could use the bathrooms, what kind of seating was available for blacks......those regulations were an infringement...

Went down from what to what.?
Still way higher than really civilized countries
And ps who do you think the current KKK is?
Dems?
Your def of normal is pathetic.
Super scared pantywaists you mean?

All 6 of the kkk members? They don't support conservative republicans......and have more in common with the racists in the democrat party.

That's not what it says in the KKK newspaper. They support him 100%. I wonder why.

His policies don't agree with theirs........the kkk newpaper is written by the democrat party...since the 6 actual kkk members don't leave their parents basements...

 

[BULLDOG]

Please provide quote(s) where I have ever said I oppose guns, or the right of Americans to own guns. I often advocate reasonable regulation of who can purchase them, and types of guns available, but regulation is not infringement.

I often advocate reasonable regulation of who can purchase them, and types of guns available, but regulation is not infringement.

When your regulations, bans and taxe, fees keep normal people from being able to afford guns and limit their access based on your feelings about guns, that is an infringement.....

When democrats kept Blacks from sitting at lunch counters or using the same bathrooms as white democrats, that was an infringement......they didn't get to say who could use the bathrooms, what kind of seating was available for blacks......those regulations were an infringement...

Went down from what to what.?
Still way higher than really civilized countries
And ps who do you think the current KKK is?
Dems?
Your def of normal is pathetic.
Super scared pantywaists you mean?

All 6 of the kkk members? They don't support conservative republicans......and have more in common with the racists in the democrat party.

That's not what it says in the KKK newspaper. They support him 100%. I wonder why.

His policies don't agree with theirs........the kkk newpaper is written by the democrat party...since the 6 actual kkk members don't leave their parents basements...

You keep telling yourself that dumb ass.

 

[Vagabond63]

Yeah.....political parties have belief systems....when they have power they implement them through their policies.....

All political parties can do in this country is allocate some funding to local authorities. The Right wing Conservative Governments in this country have cut funding to local authorities, which has resulted in a loss of over 20,000 police officers and put immense pressure on the legal system in general. The laws, rules and regulations haven't changed, just the wherewithal to carry them out. Conservative policies are responsible for the rise in crime, driving people into poverty and desperation.

 

[Vagabond63]

Going back to Germany, I meant to post this earlier, but this should serve to return to the actual topic of the thread.

6 dead in shooting in Germany......er....gun control? But...But...gun control?

Ho hum, here we go again. So, let’s put this into context, shall we? Lets compare Germany with “gun nut central”, the USA.

Given the lack of gun control in the USA, numbers are estimates but the number of privately-owned small firearms per 100 residents in each country are 30.3/100 for Germany and 88.9/100 for USA; Americans have roughly 3 times more hand guns than Germans do per 100 people.

The intentional homicide rate, NOT counting suicides, but counting murder and manslaughter per 100,000 people gives Germany 0.81/100,000 and USA 4.7/100,000 ; six times greater. Basically, taking differences in population numbers into account, Americans murder 5 times as many people than Germans do, per million of population.

State with gun control, however imperfect, against a state with next to no gun controls work. You can have your guns in Germany, but Germans try to ensure that guns are kept out of the hands of psychopaths and other crazies, unlike America, where any crazy person can walk into a store and buy one.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah.....political parties have belief systems....when they have power they implement them through their policies.....

All political parties can do in this country is allocate some funding to local authorities. The Right wing Conservative Governments in this country have cut funding to local authorities, which has resulted in a loss of over 20,000 police officers and put immense pressure on the legal system in general. The laws, rules and regulations haven't changed, just the wherewithal to carry them out. Conservative policies are responsible for the rise in crime, driving people into poverty and desperation.

And you confirm what I stated...thank you.........political parties effect how laws are implemented.....

 

[2aguy]

Going back to Germany, I meant to post this earlier, but this should serve to return to the actual topic of the thread.

6 dead in shooting in Germany......er....gun control? But...But...gun control?

Ho hum, here we go again. So, let’s put this into context, shall we? Lets compare Germany with “gun nut central”, the USA.

Given the lack of gun control in the USA, numbers are estimates but the number of privately-owned small firearms per 100 residents in each country are 30.3/100 for Germany and 88.9/100 for USA; Americans have roughly 3 times more hand guns than Germans do per 100 people.

The intentional homicide rate, NOT counting suicides, but counting murder and manslaughter per 100,000 people gives Germany 0.81/100,000 and USA 4.7/100,000 ; six times greater. Basically, taking differences in population numbers into account, Americans murder 5 times as many people than Germans do, per million of population.

State with gun control, however imperfect, against a state with next to no gun controls work. You can have your guns in Germany, but Germans try to ensure that guns are kept out of the hands of psychopaths and other crazies, unlike America, where any crazy person can walk into a store and buy one.

Sorry....you can't take culture out of the equation.......our gun crime and murder is isolated to cities....and tiny areas of those cities, controlled by the democrat party, whose policy is to release violent gun criminals over and over again....

And again....as normal people in the U.S. have gone out and bought more guns, and more and more people carry those guns, our gun murder rate has gone down 49%, our gun crime rate has gone down 75%....showing that it isn't more guns that lead to more gun crime...since the exact opposite happened....but the policy of not punishing gun offenders.

If the German gangs decide to start murdering each other, you can't stop it.......the preferred weapon of European criminals is the fully automatic military rifle....and grenades....just ask Sweden.

Again....as more Americans own and carry guns? Gun murder down 49%. How do you explain that?

Again...as more Americans carry guns, over 18.6 million? Gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%.....how do you explain that?

Our problem isn't guns or access to guns. Our problem is one political party in control of major cities that have decided that letting repeat gun offenders out of jail is a good policy......and that is the only thing driving our gun murder and crime rate.

 

[2aguy]

Going back to Germany, I meant to post this earlier, but this should serve to return to the actual topic of the thread.

6 dead in shooting in Germany......er....gun control? But...But...gun control?

Ho hum, here we go again. So, let’s put this into context, shall we? Lets compare Germany with “gun nut central”, the USA.

Given the lack of gun control in the USA, numbers are estimates but the number of privately-owned small firearms per 100 residents in each country are 30.3/100 for Germany and 88.9/100 for USA; Americans have roughly 3 times more hand guns than Germans do per 100 people.

The intentional homicide rate, NOT counting suicides, but counting murder and manslaughter per 100,000 people gives Germany 0.81/100,000 and USA 4.7/100,000 ; six times greater. Basically, taking differences in population numbers into account, Americans murder 5 times as many people than Germans do, per million of population.

State with gun control, however imperfect, against a state with next to no gun controls work. You can have your guns in Germany, but Germans try to ensure that guns are kept out of the hands of psychopaths and other crazies, unlike America, where any crazy person can walk into a store and buy one.

You don't know what you are talking about........

Germany...

Germany has 5.5 million guns belonging to 1.4 million people | Daily Mail Online

According to data from the German Firearms Register, there are almost 5.5 million guns in private ownership belonging to 1.4 million people.

But research by the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung in January estimated there are up to 20 million illegal firearms in Germany.

Sweden....

Gun violence in Sweden surpasses neighboring countries, researchers say - Radio Sweden

New research says Sweden sees more deadly shootings per capita than its closest European neighbors, and the low number of gun crimes solved by police here may be part of the reason why.

Sweden experiences four to five times more fatal shootings per capita than Norway and Germany, according to the ongoing research from Malmö University, Karolinska Hospital and Stockholm University.

The areas with the most shootings are Sweden's major cities: Stockholm, Gothenburg and Malmö. The victims as well as the perpetrators also tend to be younger than those in other the countries.
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Crime gangs in Sweden: What's behind the rise in the use of explosives?

The frequent use of explosives is a relatively recent phenomenon, and criminologists told The Local that the blasts can be seen as part of an overall rise in violence and growing recklessness in these criminal networks.

Amir Rostami, a police superintendent turned sociologist with a focus on criminal gangs, told The Local that so-called 'street gangs' are showing an increased tendency towards violence, and that this violence was becoming more severe when it took place.

"If previously they maybe fired one shot or shot someone in the legs, today it's more about AK47s, using more bullets, hand grenades and explosions that we didn't see before. I'd say that's the biggest shift we see – they're more reckless, they don't seem to care about the consequences," Rostami said.

Fatal shootings linked to criminal gangs have increased from around four per year in the early 1990s to over 40 in 2018. And while the blasts that have taken place in Sweden have caused no fatalities so far this year, they could be seen as a sign that the gangs are unafraid of causing damage and potentially harming people.
No, Sweden, hand grenade attacks aren’t an ‘image’ problem

In 2018 there were 162 bombings reported to police, and 93 reported in the first five months of this year, 30 more than during the same period in 2018. The level of attacks is “extreme in a country that is not at war,” Crime Commissioner Gunnar Appelgren told SVT last year.
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The use of hand grenades is a purely Swedish phenomenon too, with no other country in Europe reporting their use on such a level, a police manager told Swedish Radio in 2016, a year after attacks first spiked.

Culture....not access to guns, is the issue...

 

[zaangalewa]

This likely won't be considered a mass public shooting since it seems, at first glance, to be a family murder. But........er.......Germany is in Europe....and, um......we are constantly told that shootings like this can't happen in Europe cause....gun control?

Six dead in shooting in German town

Six people have been killed and others wounded in a shooting in the south-west German town of Rot am See, officials say.

A male suspect was arrested after the attack, which happened in a building close to the railway station.

Police in the state of Baden-Württemberg say initial indications suggested the suspect and the victims knew each other.

There is no evidence that anyone else is involved in the shooting, they say.

For me (I'm a German) this is a very mysterious deed from a sport marksman in the age of 26 years. He had murdered six familiy members including the own father and mother, who met each other after the death and before the funeral of his grandmother. Looks like this deed has to do with inheritance disputes. He used a pistol, 9 mm caliber. One man survived: a 69 years old victim was saved in a hospital.

But your logic fails. In Germany exist millions of sports marksman. Because of our excellent weapon laws and the high acceptance of this laws nearly never a catastrophe like this happpens here. We will see what went wrong in this special case and if it makes sense then we will change our strict weapon laws again and we'll make them more stricter. Such things should not happen. Never.

 

[2aguy]

This likely won't be considered a mass public shooting since it seems, at first glance, to be a family murder. But........er.......Germany is in Europe....and, um......we are constantly told that shootings like this can't happen in Europe cause....gun control?

Six dead in shooting in German town

Six people have been killed and others wounded in a shooting in the south-west German town of Rot am See, officials say.

A male suspect was arrested after the attack, which happened in a building close to the railway station.

Police in the state of Baden-Württemberg say initial indications suggested the suspect and the victims knew each other.

There is no evidence that anyone else is involved in the shooting, they say.

Fo9r me (Iämna German) this is a very mysterious deed from a sport marksman in the age of 26 years. He had murdered six familiy members incud9inhg the own father and mother, who met each other after the death and before the funeral of the grandmother of this murderer. Looks like this deed has to do with inheritance disputes. He used a pistol, 9 mm caliber.

But your logic fails. In Germany exist millions of sports marksman. Because of our excellent weapon laws and the high acceptance of this laws nearly never something like this happpens here. We will see what went wrng in this special case and if it makes sense, we will change our weapons laws again. Such things should not happen. Never.

Again...if your drug gangs get frisky, your gun laws won't stop them....ask Sweden...


Germany has 5.5 million guns belonging to 1.4 million people | Daily Mail Online

According to data from the German Firearms Register, there are almost 5.5 million guns in private ownership belonging to 1.4 million people.

But research by the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung in January estimated there are up to 20 million illegal firearms in Germany.

 

[2aguy]

This likely won't be considered a mass public shooting since it seems, at first glance, to be a family murder. But........er.......Germany is in Europe....and, um......we are constantly told that shootings like this can't happen in Europe cause....gun control?

Six dead in shooting in German town

Six people have been killed and others wounded in a shooting in the south-west German town of Rot am See, officials say.

A male suspect was arrested after the attack, which happened in a building close to the railway station.

Police in the state of Baden-Württemberg say initial indications suggested the suspect and the victims knew each other.

There is no evidence that anyone else is involved in the shooting, they say.

For me (I'm a German) this is a very mysterious deed from a sport marksman in the age of 26 years. He had murdered six familiy members including the own father and mother, who met each other after the death and before the funeral of his grandmother. Looks like this deed has to do with inheritance disputes. He used a pistol, 9 mm caliber. One man survived: a 69 years old victim was saved in a hospital.

But your logic fails. In Germany exist millions of sports marksman. Because of our excellent weapon laws and the high acceptance of this laws nearly never something like this happpens here. We will see what went wrng in this special case and if it makes sense, we will change our weapons laws again. Such things should not happen. Never.

and Germany has a pretty horrible history with gun confiscation...you could ask 12 million Europeans....but they are no longer with us........

 

[zaangalewa]

I don't feel sorry for Globalist Germany

Aha.

.....I don't feel sorry for Globalist Sweden.....in fact I don't feel sorry for any Western European country who has decided to embrace Globlalism.

Their globalists politicians know exactly what they are doing.

Someone, who knows what he is doing, will not become a politician.

Hope European Patriots and all citizens wake up before is too late.

I fear it is too late. You will die. If not today or tomorrow then the day after tomorrow or later. Whatever will happen: You will lose your life! Now keep on dreaming.

 

[zaangalewa]

... and Germany has a pretty horrible history with gun confiscation...you could ask 12 million Europeans....but they are no longer with us........

Do you know what I never heard from anyone in Germany? Any regret for my murdered Jewish family members. And do you know what I never heard from anyone in the USA? Any regret for any murdered German of my fellow countrymen.

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Moreover, I saw under the sun that in the place of justice, even there was wickedness, and in the place of righteousness, even there was wickedness. I said in my heart, God will judge the righteous and the wicked, for there is a time for every matter and for every work. I said in my heart with regard to the children of man that God is testing them that they may see that they themselves are but beasts. For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth? So I saw that there is nothing better than that a man should rejoice in his work, for that is his lot. Who can bring him to see what will be after him?
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[Bleipriester]

... and Germany has a pretty horrible history with gun confiscation...you could ask 12 million Europeans....but they are no longer with us........

Do you know what I never heard from anyone in Germany? Any regret for my murdered Jewish family members. And do you know what I never heard from anyone in the USA? Any regret for any murdered German of my fellow countrymen.

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Moreover, I saw under the sun that in the place of justice, even there was wickedness, and in the place of righteousness, even there was wickedness. I said in my heart, God will judge the righteous and the wicked, for there is a time for every matter and for every work. I said in my heart with regard to the children of man that God is testing them that they may see that they themselves are but beasts. For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth? So I saw that there is nothing better than that a man should rejoice in his work, for that is his lot. Who can bring him to see what will be after him?
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Have your VIPs enriched our culture again?

 

[2aguy]

Yeah.....political parties have belief systems....when they have power they implement them through their policies.....

All political parties can do in this country is allocate some funding to local authorities. The Right wing Conservative Governments in this country have cut funding to local authorities, which has resulted in a loss of over 20,000 police officers and put immense pressure on the legal system in general. The laws, rules and regulations haven't changed, just the wherewithal to carry them out. Conservative policies are responsible for the rise in crime, driving people into poverty and desperation.

This city, Seattle, is controlled by the democrat party........


Dori: Durkan's failures, political correctness caused downtown Seattle shooting

People right away criticized me for blaming gangs when we did not know for sure who was responsible. Of course we knew it was gangs. I’m sick and tired of a squishy media that won’t speak the truth because it is so consumed with political correctness. Everybody knew exactly what happened last night.

We do not let the cops do their jobs. The cops know who the gang members and drug dealers are. They also know that if they see a drug transaction and write it up for the prosecutor’s office, it’s going to get kicked because it’s not a serious enough crime. And when prosecutors pursue criminals, judges let them walk free.


The two suspects in this downtown shooting have been arrested 44 times with 20 convictions and 21 times with 15 convictions. Marquise Tolbert, the one with 20 convictions, had three felonies last year alone.


You tell me how someone with three felonies in 2019 is walking around free and able to engage in a shootout that kills a woman and injures a bunch of other people, including a 9-year-old kid. Both Tolbert and William Tolliver, the other suspect, are just 24 years old.


They both have previously been arrested and charged with drive-by shootings and unlawful possession of a firearm in 2018. So the courts knew full well that these were gun-toting gang members. Why did our justice system let them walk free? Why do we place criminals above law-abiding citizens?

The people using guns illegally in America are criminals who should have been kept in jail and prison.....but are repeatedly released by the democrat party.

As actual facts show....as normal Americans own and carry guns, our gun murder rate went down 49%....our gun murder rate went down 75%.....their owning guns does not cause gun murder or crime.

The democrat party judges, politicians and prosecutors....continuosly releasing violent, repeat gun offenders causes 99% of our gun crime problem......

So don't tell me that political parties don't cause the crime.
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Carmen Best repeated the lie they’ve been trying to feed all of us, that Seattle is a safe city. Seattle is heading toward the other leftist cities plagued with gun violence — Baltimore, Chicago, L.A. There is a common theme between the cities that have gun violence, and that is the parties that are in charge. Best said we would “stop these shootings far upstream.” No, we’re not going to. Your system had these guys, with multiple felony convictions, including gun felonies; you let them go.

 

[ph3iron]

Going back to Germany, I meant to post this earlier, but this should serve to return to the actual topic of the thread.

6 dead in shooting in Germany......er....gun control? But...But...gun control?

Ho hum, here we go again. So, let’s put this into context, shall we? Lets compare Germany with “gun nut central”, the USA.

Given the lack of gun control in the USA, numbers are estimates but the number of privately-owned small firearms per 100 residents in each country are 30.3/100 for Germany and 88.9/100 for USA; Americans have roughly 3 times more hand guns than Germans do per 100 people.

The intentional homicide rate, NOT counting suicides, but counting murder and manslaughter per 100,000 people gives Germany 0.81/100,000 and USA 4.7/100,000 ; six times greater. Basically, taking differences in population numbers into account, Americans murder 5 times as many people than Germans do, per million of population.

State with gun control, however imperfect, against a state with next to no gun controls work. You can have your guns in Germany, but Germans try to ensure that guns are kept out of the hands of psychopaths and other crazies, unlike America, where any crazy person can walk into a store and buy one.

Oh quit it with the data.
Us old Archie bunker, SO brave white farts think more guns equals less crime.
I think we should be able to keep tanks in our garages myself.

 

[ph3iron]

Yeah.....political parties have belief systems....when they have power they implement them through their policies.....

All political parties can do in this country is allocate some funding to local authorities. The Right wing Conservative Governments in this country have cut funding to local authorities, which has resulted in a loss of over 20,000 police officers and put immense pressure on the legal system in general. The laws, rules and regulations haven't changed, just the wherewithal to carry them out. Conservative policies are responsible for the rise in crime, driving people into poverty and desperation.

This city, Seattle, is controlled by the democrat party........


Dori: Durkan's failures, political correctness caused downtown Seattle shooting

People right away criticized me for blaming gangs when we did not know for sure who was responsible. Of course we knew it was gangs. I’m sick and tired of a squishy media that won’t speak the truth because it is so consumed with political correctness. Everybody knew exactly what happened last night.

We do not let the cops do their jobs. The cops know who the gang members and drug dealers are. They also know that if they see a drug transaction and write it up for the prosecutor’s office, it’s going to get kicked because it’s not a serious enough crime. And when prosecutors pursue criminals, judges let them walk free.


The two suspects in this downtown shooting have been arrested 44 times with 20 convictions and 21 times with 15 convictions. Marquise Tolbert, the one with 20 convictions, had three felonies last year alone.


You tell me how someone with three felonies in 2019 is walking around free and able to engage in a shootout that kills a woman and injures a bunch of other people, including a 9-year-old kid. Both Tolbert and William Tolliver, the other suspect, are just 24 years old.


They both have previously been arrested and charged with drive-by shootings and unlawful possession of a firearm in 2018. So the courts knew full well that these were gun-toting gang members. Why did our justice system let them walk free? Why do we place criminals above law-abiding citizens?

The people using guns illegally in America are criminals who should have been kept in jail and prison.....but are repeatedly released by the democrat party.

As actual facts show....as normal Americans own and carry guns, our gun murder rate went down 49%....our gun murder rate went down 75%.....their owning guns does not cause gun murder or crime.

The democrat party judges, politicians and prosecutors....continuosly releasing violent, repeat gun offenders causes 99% of our gun crime problem......

So don't tell me that political parties don't cause the crime.
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Carmen Best repeated the lie they’ve been trying to feed all of us, that Seattle is a safe city. Seattle is heading toward the other leftist cities plagued with gun violence — Baltimore, Chicago, L.A. There is a common theme between the cities that have gun violence, and that is the parties that are in charge. Best said we would “stop these shootings far upstream.” No, we’re not going to. Your system had these guys, with multiple felony convictions, including gun felonies; you let them go.

Might help if you knew how to write in normal text and know the difference between a noun and an adjective.
Try finishing high school Archie

 

[zaangalewa]

... and Germany has a pretty horrible history with gun confiscation...you could ask 12 million Europeans....but they are no longer with us........

Do you know what I never heard from anyone in Germany? Any regret for my murdered Jewish family members. And do you know what I never heard from anyone in the USA? Any regret for any murdered German of my fellow countrymen.

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Moreover, I saw under the sun that in the place of justice, even there was wickedness, and in the place of righteousness, even there was wickedness. I said in my heart, God will judge the righteous and the wicked, for there is a time for every matter and for every work. I said in my heart with regard to the children of man that God is testing them that they may see that they themselves are but beasts. For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth? So I saw that there is nothing better than that a man should rejoice in his work, for that is his lot. Who can bring him to see what will be after him?
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Have your VIPs enriched our culture again?

I am a German - you are an absurde anti-German nothing, Nazi. No idea what your nationality could be. You know nearly nothing about the culture and history of the German nations.

 

[Bleipriester]

... and Germany has a pretty horrible history with gun confiscation...you could ask 12 million Europeans....but they are no longer with us........

Do you know what I never heard from anyone in Germany? Any regret for my murdered Jewish family members. And do you know what I never heard from anyone in the USA? Any regret for any murdered German of my fellow countrymen.

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Moreover, I saw under the sun that in the place of justice, even there was wickedness, and in the place of righteousness, even there was wickedness. I said in my heart, God will judge the righteous and the wicked, for there is a time for every matter and for every work. I said in my heart with regard to the children of man that God is testing them that they may see that they themselves are but beasts. For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth? So I saw that there is nothing better than that a man should rejoice in his work, for that is his lot. Who can bring him to see what will be after him?
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Have your VIPs enriched our culture again?

I am a German - you are a nothing, Nazi. No idea what your nationality could be. You know nearly nothing about the culture and history of the German nations. You are only a kind of absurde anti-German ET.

Du bist nur eine widerliche Sacklaus.