tinydancer
Diamond Member
BS- has nothing to do with our internal laws.
You fool. You didn't go to the Senate link did you?
It's very clear cut what they were voting on. And now it's on record.
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BS- has nothing to do with our internal laws.
With their constant dissemination of disinformation, conservatives increasingly resemble Pravda, the political newspaper affiliated with the Communists Party of the old Soviet Union. They engaged in a constant propaganda PR war without any regard for truth or accuracy. No lie was too big or too small.
Bullshit Mustang.
This was not spin. It was a vote up and down and the Statement of Purpose is clear and on the record.
There's no gray here. The D's voted against the Second Amendment. They own their vote.
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 113th Congress - 1st Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (Inhofe Amdt. No. 139 )
Vote Number: 91 Vote Date: March 23, 2013, 04:30 AM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 139 to S.Con.Res. 8 (No short title on file
Statement of Purpose: To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.
Vote Counts: YEAs 53
NAYs 46
Not Voting 1
U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote
Thank-you, comrade, for makijng my point for me.
Yeah, it's like all the Democrat Senators are suddenly Cindy Sheehan. Scary.Bullshit Mustang.
This was not spin. It was a vote up and down and the Statement of Purpose is clear and on the record.
There's no gray here. The D's voted against the Second Amendment. They own their vote.
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 113th Congress - 1st Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (Inhofe Amdt. No. 139 )
Vote Number: 91 Vote Date: March 23, 2013, 04:30 AM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 139 to S.Con.Res. 8 (No short title on file
Statement of Purpose: To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.
Vote Counts: YEAs 53
NAYs 46
Not Voting 1
U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote
Thank-you, comrade, for makijng my point for me.
Oh put down the bong for heaven's sakes.
Statement of Purpose is clear. And the Dems voted against the Second Amendment. And voted against preventing the US from entering into the UN Treaty on Arms.
There's absolutely no gray here.
Today, 46 traitors were so intent on advancing their anti-gun agenda, they voted to forfeit OUR 2nd Amendment Rights to the UN. Check out the link to see who was willing to put their own agenda above our rights.
U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote
Oh put down the bong for heaven's sakes.
Statement of Purpose is clear. And the Dems voted against the Second Amendment. And voted against preventing the US from entering into the UN Treaty on Arms.
There's absolutely no gray here.
Amazing.
I have to admit that I am not in the slightest little bit surprised that both Senators from my State (the Empire State) voted AGAINST this amendment.
Sad, but not at all unexpected.
thanks, very good information. shooting off a couple of emails to my senators right now.
thanks, very good information. shooting off a couple of emails to my senators right now.
Read the treaty first before you make an ass of yourself.
Once you actually READ THE TREATY, all the bullshit being shoveled into your mouths falls apart. Upon READING THE TREATY, it becomes obvious it is about the IMPORTATION and EXPORTATION of arms such as Apache helicopters, JDAMs, F-15s, along with small arms to countries like North Korea, Syria, and Iran. I thought you flag pin wearing faggots hated North Korea, Syria, and Iran.
We are talking about the kind of shit all those arms manufactureres I highlighted as Inhofe's donors make.
This is billions of dollars of shit falling into the hands of terrorists and rogue states. Which is why North Korea, Iran, Syria, and the big American arms manufacturers are trying to stop it.
Idiots.
This has NOTHING to do with you or your guns. Nothing.
Not one of you nitwits has even read the fucking thing. You are just parroting the arms makers' propaganda that this somehow will affect YOU. You are being a bunch of useful idiots, and so are the Senators who are trying to defeat it.
I bet none of the Senators have read it, either. They took the arms makers' donations, and marched to their orders.
Don't even pretend you have read the treaty. I know damned well you have not. You are a bunch of mindless parrots.
We have a sock puppet^^^^^^^^^The amendment was sponsored by Senator Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.).
Here is Inhofe's Open Secrets page: James M. Inhofe: Campaign Finance/Money - Summary - Senator 2012 | OpenSecrets
The dude is totally owned by the arms makers affected by the treaty!
Here are his top 20 contributors:
Senator Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) also wrote a similar resolution for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Take a look at who Inhofe's number one donor is in the picture I posted.
Guess who is Moran's number one donor?
That's right. Koch Industries.
Coincidence?
I wonder who wrote the amendment and the resolution for those two guys...
Once you actually READ THE TREATY, all the bullshit being shoveled into your mouths falls apart. Upon READING THE TREATY, it becomes obvious it is about the IMPORTATION and EXPORTATION of arms such as Apache helicopters, JDAMs, F-15s, along with small arms to countries like North Korea, Syria, and Iran. I thought you flag pin wearing faggots hated North Korea, Syria, and Iran.
We are talking about the kind of shit all those arms manufactureres I highlighted as Inhofe's donors make.
This is billions of dollars of shit falling into the hands of terrorists and rogue states. Which is why North Korea, Iran, Syria, and the big American arms manufacturers are trying to stop it.
Idiots.
This has NOTHING to do with you or your guns. Nothing.
Not one of you nitwits has even read the fucking thing. You are just parroting the arms makers' propaganda that this somehow will affect YOU. You are being a bunch of useful idiots, and so are the Senators who are trying to defeat it.
I bet none of the Senators have read it, either. They took the arms makers' donations, and marched to their orders.
Don't even pretend you have read the treaty. I know damned well you have not. You are a bunch of mindless parrots.
I have read the treaty and have posted a post almost identical to yours.
I admit I stepped into the trap...though I only looked as far as how my senators voted.
But I totally agree.
The treaty in question only limits inter-nation gun trading
Once you actually READ THE TREATY, all the bullshit being shoveled into your mouths falls apart. Upon READING THE TREATY, it becomes obvious it is about the IMPORTATION and EXPORTATION of arms such as Apache helicopters, JDAMs, F-15s, along with small arms to countries like North Korea, Syria, and Iran. I thought you flag pin wearing faggots hated North Korea, Syria, and Iran.
We are talking about the kind of shit all those arms manufactureres I highlighted as Inhofe's donors make.
This is billions of dollars of shit falling into the hands of terrorists and rogue states. Which is why North Korea, Iran, Syria, and the big American arms manufacturers are trying to stop it.
Idiots.
This has NOTHING to do with you or your guns. Nothing.
Not one of you nitwits has even read the fucking thing. You are just parroting the arms makers' propaganda that this somehow will affect YOU. You are being a bunch of useful idiots, and so are the Senators who are trying to defeat it.
I bet none of the Senators have read it, either. They took the arms makers' donations, and marched to their orders.
Don't even pretend you have read the treaty. I know damned well you have not. You are a bunch of mindless parrots.
I did read it. The language within this scope is too vague and could be construed several ways.
Article 2 Scope
1. This Treaty shall apply to all conventional arms within the following categories:
(a) Battle tanks;
(b) Armoured combat vehicles;
(c) Large-calibre artillery systems;
(d) Combat aircraft;
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(e) Attack helicopters;
(f) Warships;
(g) Missiles and missile launchers; and
(h) Small arms and light weapons.
2. For the purposes of this Treaty, the activities of the international trade comprise export, import, transit, trans-shipment and brokering, hereafter referred to as transfer.
3. This Treaty shall not apply to the international movement of conventional arms by, or on behalf of, a State Party for its use provided that the conventional arms remain under that State Partys ownership.
Article 3 Ammunition/Munitions
Each State Party shall establish and maintain a national control system to regulate the export of ammunition/munitions fired, launched or delivered by the conventional arms covered under Article 2 (1), and shall apply the provisions of Article 6 and Article 7 prior to authorizing the export of such ammunition/munitions.