45 million will not have health insurance by the end of the year

[Rozman]

No one made any claim that ACA would insure 45 million people that weren't insured before.

That was Obama's talking point number one...
This claim is the main reason why this whole thing got started.....

You can't now claim this never happened!

 

[Zander]

Obamacare - absolutely no promises were made!!! It was the most trasnparent law in history. Promise!!

 

[edthecynic]

No one made any claim that ACA would insure 45 million people that weren't insured before.

HOLD the phone Gracie...wasn't it the contention of the Statists that there were 46 MILLION uninsured before the UCA?

Not so fast there Slick....Wasn't it the contention of the Fascists that there were only 8.2 million uninsured before the PPACA?

The Myth of the 46 Million | The American Spectator

When all of these factors are put together, the 2003 BlueCross BlueShield study determined that 8.2 million Americans are actually without coverage for the long haul, because they are too poor to purchase health care but earn too much to qualify for government assistance.

 

[Geaux4it]

running on a deficit is definately the dem way

Most unfortunate

-Geaux

 

[edthecynic]

No one made any claim that ACA would insure 45 million people that weren't insured before.

No, it didn't, in fact it did the exact opposite. Now there could be as many as 75 million by the time this is all over. I hope you folks are proud of yourselves. And no, the CBO isn't right wing.

CBO: Obamacare Will Leave 30 Million Uninsured | CNS News

According to your MessiahRushie, the CBO bases its predictions on computer models as worthless as the computer models used to predict global warming!!!

March 31, 2014
RUSH: CBO's not biased, but it is based on the data they get. So the magic number was a trillion dollars. … Obamacare first projections came in under a trillion dollars, $900 billion,… How'd they do it? They had a computer model that swore by it. … it was a computer model that did it, and everybody swore by it. And now look, it's worthless. It was worthless then, it's worthless now, as worthless as a climate change model is.

 

[Geaux4it]

No one made any claim that ACA would insure 45 million people that weren't insured before.

No, it didn't, in fact it did the exact opposite. Now there could be as many as 75 million by the time this is all over. I hope you folks are proud of yourselves. And no, the CBO isn't right wing.

CBO: Obamacare Will Leave 30 Million Uninsured | CNS News

According to your MessiahRushie, the CBO bases its predictions on computer models as worthless as the computer models used to predict global warming!!!

March 31, 2014
RUSH: CBO's not biased, but it is based on the data they get. So the magic number was a trillion dollars. … Obamacare first projections came in under a trillion dollars, $900 billion,… How'd they do it? They had a computer model that swore by it. … it was a computer model that did it, and everybody swore by it. And now look, it's worthless. It was worthless then, it's worthless now, as worthless as a climate change model is.

So what is this thing you call.... global warming? Is that the one they said is caused by the cows 'slicing the chesse'

-Geaux

 

[healthmyths]

OP- RW idiocy lol. 15 million more are insured NOW. Only 5% of the cancelled haven't gotten coverage back, and the great majority not on the fed exchange. Remain calm.

Where did you get "15 million are insured"?
The majority of "YES" votes thought they were passing ACA to cover the 46 million uninsured!
Where are those 46 million uninsured Franco when:
10 million are not legal and Obama said ACA will not cover illegals!
14 million are already eligible before ACA for Medicaid according to poverty levels so why was ACA necessary?
18 million don't want or need health insurance so why are we forcing them to get it?

I add those numbers up and subtract from 46 million and there are TRULY less then 4 million!
Now the majority of the 6 million that Obama says are registered are covered under Medicaid. But they were before ACA! So what purpose was there to ACA
if all that was needed was to get more of the 14 million that were eligible BEFORE ACA enrolled?
WHY was it necessary to destroy the health care system for all of us when less the 4 million needed coverage?

CMS data show that, between October 1, 2013 and December, 31 2013, state Medicaid and CHIP agencies and the SBMs made over 6.3 million total new eligibility determinations for Medicaid and CHIP.
Medicaid Enrollment Under the Affordable Care Act: Understanding the Numbers | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

NOW explain to me why it was necessary to destroy all of our healthcare when it was KNOWN before ACA that:
Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million —
were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!
In the latest Census health insurance report, the Census Bureau acknowledges that the survey “…underreports Medicare and Medicaid coverage compared with enrollment and participation data from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).”
Please explain if we KNEW before ACA 14 million could be covered WHY was ACA NECESSARY???

 

[healthmyths]

Remember OBAMA when he said: .."“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. "
Key word "AMERICANS" since the CENSUS said of the 46 million uninsured 10 million weren't citizens!
that leaves 36 million!
And now we see ACA is signing up 6 million of the 14 million that WERE ELIGIBLE for Medicaid BEFORE ACA?
So why were THEY counted as "uninsured" if all Obama had to do was get them enrolled? That leaves 22 million of which
18 million don't NEED insurance (under 34) but can afford insurance (make over $50k) yet turn down employers' health plan!
SO why are they counted as part of the 46 million???

 

[Jackson]

It is very hard to decipher the real numbers of the uninsured today or at the end of the year. The CBO is working with numbers given to them from a dishonest administration.

It can only conclude that the numbers promised has not been met.

Can anyone find a way of determining the actual number of people who have actually signed up and paid? Not only has this administration not come forth with bonafide numbers, they keep moving the deadlines because their numbers are less than hoped.

Due to all of the problems and a website that is still a problem, we can only assume the ACA is considered an EPIC FAIL.

Time for an end to this madness and a new plan from a reputable administration.

 

[JakeStarkey]

HOLD the phone Gracie...wasn't it the contention of the Statists that there were 46 MILLION uninsured before the UCA?

Yes...something like that...but...once again, no one made any claim the ACA would insure 46 million people

NO...just EVERYBODY...even IF they lose plans they were HAPPY/Content with...that didn't MEET the Statist agenda.

RIGHT.

1st year goal = 7mm and it will be meant

And the 5mm who had poor plans have better ones

 

[Jackson]

Yes...something like that...but...once again, no one made any claim the ACA would insure 46 million people

NO...just EVERYBODY...even IF they lose plans they were HAPPY/Content with...that didn't MEET the Statist agenda.

RIGHT.

1st year goal = 7mm and it will be meant

And the 5mm who had poor plans have better ones

History has shown us that is not true. What is 5mm?

 

[Nyvin]

Remember OBAMA when he said: .."“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. "
Key word "AMERICANS" since the CENSUS said of the 46 million uninsured 10 million weren't citizens!
that leaves 36 million!
And now we see ACA is signing up 6 million of the 14 million that WERE ELIGIBLE for Medicaid BEFORE ACA?
So why were THEY counted as "uninsured" if all Obama had to do was get them enrolled? That leaves 22 million of which
18 million don't NEED insurance (under 34) but can afford insurance (make over $50k) yet turn down employers' health plan!
SO why are they counted as part of the 46 million???

Okay...so since you'll never get over this 46 million argument ever apparently, how about this...are you saying no healthcare reform in this country was needed?

 

[healthmyths]

Remember OBAMA when he said: .."“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. "
Key word "AMERICANS" since the CENSUS said of the 46 million uninsured 10 million weren't citizens!
that leaves 36 million!
And now we see ACA is signing up 6 million of the 14 million that WERE ELIGIBLE for Medicaid BEFORE ACA?
So why were THEY counted as "uninsured" if all Obama had to do was get them enrolled? That leaves 22 million of which
18 million don't NEED insurance (under 34) but can afford insurance (make over $50k) yet turn down employers' health plan!
SO why are they counted as part of the 46 million???

Okay...so since you'll never get over this 46 million argument ever apparently, how about this...are you saying no healthcare reform in this country was needed?

First THERE IS NO Argument! How can you honestly count 10 million illegals as uninsured Americans?
Why are you counting 14 million people that simply need to register and this was before ACA with Medicaid as "uninsured"? All they need do is register! They are covered!
AND why are you forcing 18 million people to buy something THEY DON"T NEED?

Until you recognize this phony number was used to pass ACA you are unable to comprehend anything else!
I can tell you NOWHERE in ACA was there mentioned the $850 billion spent on wasteful defensive medicine all because of fear of lawsuits!
YET ACA taxes tanning salons.. big woo! 10%!
A simple law saying all lawyers (like tanning salons) will have a 10% surcharge on their $270 billion in revenue.
This $27 billion will be used to pay premiums for the 4 million uninsured.
Any hospital then that pads and passes on 6,000% markups as (I've shown in the past this happens! to recover uninsured..) to insurance/medicare payers will be audited!

This simple law will in less then 5 years REDUCE health insurance premiums by 20%!
WHY? Because WHO pays the $850 billion a year in defensive medicine? The insurance/Medicare i.e. payers!
Forced to justify their premiums in front of state regulators they will be reducing their premiums to get certified to sell in that state!

That is the one Major piece of legislation that will drastically save our health care system and cut costs of premiums!
Check this link out regarding defensive medicine...

"Physicians estimate the cost of defensive medicine in US at $650 to $850 billion per year. This is 26 to 34% of all US healthcare costs.
Up to 92% of US physicians practice defensive medicine.

76% of physicians report that defensive medicine decreases patient access to healthcare.

53% of physicians report delaying new techniques, procedures, and treatments due to fear of lawsuits.

Patients most affected by defensive medicine include those visiting emergency rooms and those requiring surgery.

Women are most affected by defensive medicine.

Emergency medicine, primary care, and OB/GYN physicians are most likely to practice defensive medicine.

79 to 83% of surgeons and OB/GYNs have been named in lawsuits.

Physicians contracted by the federal government practice significantly less defensive medicine as they are protected against lawsuits by the Federal Tort Claims Act.

Only 48% practice defensive medicine compared to 92% of non-government physicians.

89% of physicians support a patient’s right to be compensated fairly for true negligence.
Health News Observer ? Physicians Estimate The Cost Of Defensive Medicine In Us At 650 To 850 Bill Articles

 

[Clementine]

No one made any claim that ACA would insure 45 million people that weren't insured before.

HOLD the phone Gracie...wasn't it the contention of the Statists that there were 46 MILLION uninsured before the UCA?

Yes...something like that...but...once again, no one made any claim the ACA would insure 46 million people

Those people were the very reason they claimed the reform was all about and it was constantly implied that the uninsured would get insurance.

They also didn't say that it would cost way more, that millions would lose their insurance, that illegals would be covered and that the quality of care would suffer. People weren't told they'd lose their doctors. There weren't really 46 million uninsured who wanted it but couldn't afford it.

We got nothing buy lies and if we held government to the same standards that they hold the private sector to, they would be out of business pronto.

Millions who will be without insurance had it previously and they lost it as a direct result of Obamacare. Their plans were made illegal by the law. The replacement plans are too expensive and not nearly as good in many cases.

 

[WelfareQueen]

This was all about taking over 1/6th of the U.S. economy and further making Americans sheep. Obamacare has nothing to do with actually helping the uninsured.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

This was all about taking over 1/6th of the U.S. economy and further making Americans sheep. Obamacare has nothing to do with actually helping the uninsured.

1/6th? Pussies. Come on boys, you can at least shoot for 1/3rd.

 

[WelfareQueen]

This was all about taking over 1/6th of the U.S. economy and further making Americans sheep. Obamacare has nothing to do with actually helping the uninsured.

1/6th? Pussies. Come on boys, you can at least shoot for 1/3rd.

Fuck off moron.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

This was all about taking over 1/6th of the U.S. economy and further making Americans sheep. Obamacare has nothing to do with actually helping the uninsured.

1/6th? Pussies. Come on boys, you can at least shoot for 1/3rd.

Fuck off moron.

Tell us how you really feel?

Next week they're passing a bill called the Affordable Bear Act, but it's really not about bears, it's all about how to shit in the woods, which was recently reported as 1/278,000 of the economy. These control freaks will stop at nothing, not even bears.

 

[Politico]

HOLD the phone Gracie...wasn't it the contention of the Statists that there were 46 MILLION uninsured before the UCA?

Yes...something like that...but...once again, no one made any claim the ACA would insure 46 million people

NO...just EVERYBODY...even IF they lose plans they were HAPPY/Content with...that didn't MEET the Statist agenda.

RIGHT.

No. Obammy made it quite clear certain people would be paying for others and there would be casualties along the way.

 

[RandallFlagg]

running on a deficit is definately the dem way

What? .......wait a minute.....



I was told by the president and Nancy (the idiot) Pelosi and Harry (Howdy Doody) Reid that this signature piece of legislation would insure some 46 MILLION people that were too stupid to have insurance for both them and their families....

Now YOU are telling me that they won't!?!?!?!

Wait....are you suggesting the the president, Pelosi and Reid are out and out liars!?!?!



Oh wait - that has already been established. OBAMACARE - brought to you by the most "transparent administration" in American History!!!!!!