2010 The hottest year on record

[Chris]

Looks like we are headed for the coldest winter in while here. Nonclimatic related weather tends to even out over the course of a year or two. Still counting on those heat sink station readings huh Old Rocks?

It like a freaking soap opera. I can leave for weeks at a time and come back to the same tired old story.

Yes, you keep lying.

 

[Chris]

The Inland area sizzled on Sunday and today will offer no relief from the record-breaking heat, the National Weather Service in San Diego said.

Riverside broke its previous record for the date by four degrees and is set to duplicate the feat on Monday, weather service meteorologist Mark Moede said.

Sunday's high temperature at Riverside Municipal Airport was 110, the new record for Sept. 26. The old record was 106, set last year.

Lake Elsinore also set a new record, hitting 106. The previous high was 104, set in 1963.

Both Ontario and Palm Springs tied their previous record highs, the weather service said. Ontatio International Airport hit 107, tying the mark set in 1978, while Palm Springs topped out at 111, matching the record set last year.

Palm Springs also set a record for highest minimum temperature. The mercury never dipped below 80 degrees there on Sunday.

Record heat scorches Inland region | Local News | PE.com | Southern California News | News for Inland Southern California

 

[Chris]

Sunday’s high temperature of 104 degrees at Cal Poly broke the 1978 record of 102 degrees, according to local forecaster John Lindsey.

But that was the only record broken in San Luis Obispo County on Sunday despite the continuing heat added Lindsey, a communications specialist at Pacific Gas and Electric Co.

Paso Robles topped at 104 degrees, he said. The record of 107 degrees for that day was set last year, according to the National Weather Service.

Record high at Cal Poly on Sunday - Breaking News - SanLuisObispo.com

 

[westwall]

You can allways tell when you've hurt the alarmists when they absolutely FLOOD the thread with inane drivel and Chris is a true master of drivel!

 

[saveliberty]

Looks like we are headed for the coldest winter in while here. Nonclimatic related weather tends to even out over the course of a year or two. Still counting on those heat sink station readings huh Old Rocks?

It like a freaking soap opera. I can leave for weeks at a time and come back to the same tired old story.

Yes, you keep lying.

Much like the cat, I too am unimpressed. Spring stayed late and fall is here early. We had fewer 100 plus days than normal here. Your model cannot predict or explain that. Your model is a fake.

 

[konradv]

What's not fake is that CO2 and other gases are known absorb infra-red radiation.

The concentrations of those gases, including some very potent ones not found in nature, have been going up since the advent of the Industrial Revoluiton, according to ice-core data.

Therefore, if the trend continues, warming is inevitable.

Quit sniping around the edges of the debate. Man up and tell us where this piece of logic fails.

 

[saveliberty]

Water vapor absorbs more heat than CO2. You assume the Earth is a closed system. We have been here many times before. *Yawn*

 

[konradv]

Water vapor absorbs more heat than CO2. You assume the Earth is a closed system. We have been here many times before. *Yawn*

Your comment just shows your lack of knowledge off the topic, since it supports my thesis, not yours. On the one hand the amount of radiation water absorbs is irrelevant to the amount CO2 does. The bottom line is they both do and that fact does not disprove anything concerning my point. On the other hand, if CO2 raises temps even a little, more vapor would be able to enter the atmosphere and, since it IS a potent GHG, raise temps even further. Thus, CO2 can act as an amplifier. Whether the earth is a closed system or not is irrelevant.

 

[westwall]

What's not fake is that CO2 and other gases are known absorb infra-red radiation.

The concentrations of those gases, including some very potent ones not found in nature, have been going up since the advent of the Industrial Revoluiton, according to ice-core data.

Therefore, if the trend continues, warming is inevitable.

Quit sniping around the edges of the debate. Man up and tell us where this piece of logic fails.

The BORG hath spoken! If what you said were true the warming would allready be well advanced. It is not. If what you were saying were true the temperature of the Earth would have been much much higher in the past when the CO2 levels were 20 times higher than currently. They were not. The temps then were only 6 to 10 degrees warmer.
If what you were saying were true the RWP and the MWP would have been impossible without a major influx of CO2 but as we know that did not occur either.

All in all your theory is false. Your scientific methodology is terrible. And the world is going to go happily along as it is.

 

[saveliberty]

Water vapor absorbs more heat than CO2. You assume the Earth is a closed system. We have been here many times before. *Yawn*

Your comment just shows your lack of knowledge off the topic, since it supports my thesis, not yours. On the one hand the amount of radiation water absorbs is irrelevant to the amount CO2 does. The bottom line is they both do and that fact does not disprove anything concerning my point. On the other hand, if CO2 raises temps even a little, more vapor would be able to enter the atmosphere and, since it IS a potent GHG, raise temps even further. Thus, CO2 can act as an amplifier. Whether the earth is a closed system or not is irrelevant.

Closed system or open, makes no difference. Yes, that sure makes you rthe scientist, not. I see your not keeping track of the water vapor in the atmosphere. It aborbs MORE heat an CO2 idiot. Of course, it would be amusing to watch you make a case for humans being responsible for more wate vapor in the atmosphere. Faithers. It be funny, except for the stupid.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Water vapor absorbs more heat than CO2. You assume the Earth is a closed system. We have been here many times before. *Yawn*

It is true that water vapor makes up the vast majority of the green house effect, but adding more co2 on top of it will cause a warming being that it also is a green house gas...200 million years earth had 1,200 PPM co2 and was 23c to todays 14c at 400 ppm...Also the sun was younger and had less output,,,the same today could cause a bit more kick. Kind of makes you wonder why the hell the last 10 million years has been so cold to earths avg with a brighter sun? The Question is why??? If we where to warm up to what we where 15 million years ago we would be getting closer to what is normal for earth, which you would say is the true temperature of our planet. The true temp or avg is not what we've made it and call it "0", but the trend over all earth's history when it is avg'ed.

Right??? I was looking at some charts from 0=today to around 600 million years ago and there is only like two periods as cold as it is now and they're now and 300-400 million years ago. So we're within a ice age so chances are that earth would want to move out of this ice age, so it could be a natural event, but helped by man some.

 

[Chris]

The summer of 2010 was bound to be remembered for cool temperatures across Los Angeles and a stubborn El Niño-enhanced marine layer blanketing the west side.

And then it became Fall.

The mercury hit an unprecedented 113 degrees shortly after noon and we may see hotter temps yet as the September sun bakes the downtown streets into the afternoon.

Today is not only the hottest September 27th since 1877 when meteorological record-keeping began -- it's downtown LA's highest temperature reading ever.

113 Degrees! Today is Downtown LA's Hottest Day on Record - LAist

 

[Chris]

The temperature reached 105 degrees today in El Cajon, breaking the previous record for Sept. 26th of 100 degrees, set in 1989. It also was 105 at the Ramona Airport, also breaking the previous record of 100 for the date. But that record was set in 2009.

It was 109 in Borrego Springs, one degree higher than the record for the date (set in 1991.) And it was 100 in Campo, breaking the record of 99 for the date, set in 2001.

Evening has brought little relief; at 7:45 p.m., it was still 87 in Poway and in La Mesa. (Live countywide temperature net)

Here's a sample of other local high temperatures on Sunday: Poway, 105; San Pasqual Valley, 105; Fallbrook, 103; Santee, 103; Escondido, 100; San Marcos, 99; Miramar MCAS, 98; Lemon Grove, 97; La Mesa, 97; Julian, 95; Rancho Bernardo, 94; Vista, 95; Chula Vista, 90; San Diego-Lindbergh Field, 89; Carlsbad Airport, 89; Oceanside Airport, 89; Cabrillo National Monument, 88.

Elsewhere in Southern California: Indio, 113; Chino, 110; Rialto, 110; Corona, 108; Temecula, 108; Ontario , 107; Anaheim, 107, Fullerton , 107, John Wayne Airport, 101.

'Hottest day of 2010' sets records in San Diego - SignOnSanDiego.com

 

[saveliberty]

The summer of 2010 was bound to be remembered for cool temperatures across Los Angeles and a stubborn El Niño-enhanced marine layer blanketing the west side.

And then it became Fall.

The mercury hit an unprecedented 113 degrees shortly after noon and we may see hotter temps yet as the September sun bakes the downtown streets into the afternoon.

Today is not only the hottest September 27th since 1877 when meteorological record-keeping began -- it's downtown LA's highest temperature reading ever.

113 Degrees! Today is Downtown LA's Hottest Day on Record - LAist

Finally got the whole place black topped huh?

 

[Chris]

The summer of 2010 was bound to be remembered for cool temperatures across Los Angeles and a stubborn El Niño-enhanced marine layer blanketing the west side.

And then it became Fall.

The mercury hit an unprecedented 113 degrees shortly after noon and we may see hotter temps yet as the September sun bakes the downtown streets into the afternoon.

Today is not only the hottest September 27th since 1877 when meteorological record-keeping began -- it's downtown LA's highest temperature reading ever.

113 Degrees! Today is Downtown LA's Hottest Day on Record - LAist

Finally got the whole place black topped huh?

It sucks when all the facts are against you, doesn't it?

Your bullshit conspiracy theories don't cut it. All over the world, in Russia, Japan, the US, the Middle East etc... it's been the hottest summer on record.

I really feel sorry for you.

 

[Chris]

For the second Sunday in a row and the third time this month Denver has tied or broken a high temperature record. The Mile High City is on track to reach “top 10” status for the month for driest September's and possibly warmest.

At Denver International Airport today the high temperature reached 90 degrees at 2:54pm thus tying the record for the date set in 1892. This is far above the normal high temperature of 74 degrees for the date.

Denver also broke a high temperature record on Monday, September 20th when the mercury climbed to 94 degrees. This bested the old record for the date of 92 degrees set in 1956.

Last Sunday, September 19th, the mercury topped out an amazing 96 degrees. That broke the old record of 93 degrees set in 1980. It was also the hottest temperature ever recorded so late in the year and was the hottest Denver Broncos home game on record.

Sizzling September - Denver ties 118-year-old high temperature record - Denver Weather | Examiner.com

 

[ScienceRocks]

The summer of 2010 was bound to be remembered for cool temperatures across Los Angeles and a stubborn El Niño-enhanced marine layer blanketing the west side.

And then it became Fall.

The mercury hit an unprecedented 113 degrees shortly after noon and we may see hotter temps yet as the September sun bakes the downtown streets into the afternoon.

Today is not only the hottest September 27th since 1877 when meteorological record-keeping began -- it's downtown LA's highest temperature reading ever.

113 Degrees! Today is Downtown LA's Hottest Day on Record - LAist

Finally got the whole place black topped huh?

It sucks when all the facts are against you, doesn't it?

Your bullshit conspiracy theories don't cut it. All over the world, in Russia, Japan, the US, the Middle East etc... it's been the hottest summer on record.

I really feel sorry for you.

It is true that much of the world has been far above normal this year, but the west coast is not one of them...One record event don't change a cool summer. What is more important is seeing long periods of above avg temps...That is what forces the overall temps for a period of time up and you get your warming trends within area's from that. Not when you have one or two days of hot weather and go back to cooler then normal. That will be seen on the global maps come mid next month as a area of below normal.

 

[saveliberty]

From a source listed on your source:

June's afternoon highs were on average 2.3 degrees below normal, said Seto. July, just six days in, is about 7.1 degrees behind.

Higher Temperatures and Sunnier Skies Expected to Appear Later this Week - LAist

Try to be a little more truthful Chris. Your article says this, "Today is not only the hottest September 27th since 1877 when meteorological record-keeping began -- it's downtown LA's highest temperature reading ever.

The previous record high temperature for downtown LA (Civic Center) was 112 degrees on June 26, 1990."

Downtown LA is considered to be the Civic Center according to the article. The Civic Center has been in LA since about 1925. Also, note this, "The civic center has the distinction of containing the largest concentration of government employees in the United States outside of Washington, D. C. The reason is simple: Here are offices of the largest county in the country (Los Angeles) and the second largest city, along with several state and federal functions." In other words it is a giant heat sink of buildings.

 

[westwall]

From a source listed on your source:

June's afternoon highs were on average 2.3 degrees below normal, said Seto. July, just six days in, is about 7.1 degrees behind.

Higher Temperatures and Sunnier Skies Expected to Appear Later this Week - LAist

Try to be a little more truthful Chris. Your article says this, "Today is not only the hottest September 27th since 1877 when meteorological record-keeping began -- it's downtown LA's highest temperature reading ever.

The previous record high temperature for downtown LA (Civic Center) was 112 degrees on June 26, 1990."

Downtown LA is considered to be the Civic Center according to the article. The Civic Center has been in LA since about 1925. Also, note this, "The civic center has the distinction of containing the largest concentration of government employees in the United States outside of Washington, D. C. The reason is simple: Here are offices of the largest county in the country (Los Angeles) and the second largest city, along with several state and federal functions." In other words it is a giant heat sink of buildings.

Don'tr forget the THOUSANDS of air conditioners that were switched on....I wonder where that heat went

 

[Charles_Main]

From a source listed on your source:

June's afternoon highs were on average 2.3 degrees below normal, said Seto. July, just six days in, is about 7.1 degrees behind.

Higher Temperatures and Sunnier Skies Expected to Appear Later this Week - LAist

Try to be a little more truthful Chris. Your article says this, "Today is not only the hottest September 27th since 1877 when meteorological record-keeping began -- it's downtown LA's highest temperature reading ever.

The previous record high temperature for downtown LA (Civic Center) was 112 degrees on June 26, 1990."

Downtown LA is considered to be the Civic Center according to the article. The Civic Center has been in LA since about 1925. Also, note this, "The civic center has the distinction of containing the largest concentration of government employees in the United States outside of Washington, D. C. The reason is simple: Here are offices of the largest county in the country (Los Angeles) and the second largest city, along with several state and federal functions." In other words it is a giant heat sink of buildings.

Don'tr forget the THOUSANDS of air conditioners that were switched on....I wonder where that heat went

Me thinks you guys are speaking way above his pay grade