They call 2023 the hottest year on record yet see what happened at Death Valley

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Great, publish your groundbreaking work!

They already know.

Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation - Nature Communications

The Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) is a major tipping element in the climate system. Here, data-driven estimators for the time of tipping predict a potential AMOC collapse mid-century under the current emission scenario.

www.nature.com

 

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Oh, so they are ALL liars?

Even better!

No. They are distracted. The beauty of error is that error always fails... eventually.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No. They are distracted. The beauty of error is that error always fails... eventually.

So they are all just mistaken!

All just very forgetful of their own life's work!


Hahahaha

So dumb.

 

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So they are all just mistaken!

All just very forgetful of their own life's work!


Hahahaha

So dumb.

Happens all the time. It just so happens there is an entire industry built around it. Boy are they going to feel dumb.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Happens all the time. It just so happens there is an entire industry built around it. Boy are they going to feel dumb.

Sure it does!


It happens all the time to the entire scientific community, across nearly every discipline of physical science, all at once!

It's crazy!

 

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Sure it does!


It happens all the time to the entire scientific community, across nearly every discipline of physical science, all at once!

It's crazy!

Yep, science is never settled. Especially the pseudo science of climate modeling.

 

[mamooth]

When heat circulation from the Atlantic gets disrupted, northern hemisphere temperatures plunge. When it gets restored, northern hemisphere temperatures rise but it takes a very long time to return to the trigger temperature. That's the lag time.

That circulation only affects a small area, relative to the whole globe, in the north atlantic. The heat that doesn't go there stays somewhere else, so global averages don't change.

The normal people point out that after CO2 rises, it takes a few centuries for temperatures to fully stabilize at the new higher level. That's the lag time. It takes a long time for the oceans to warm across the globe.

The science says that temperatures now should still be lower than past equilibrium temperatures for the same CO2 levels, because equilibrium hasn't been reached.

The science is right. You don't understand the science. That only makes you look bad.

 

[mamooth]

Yep, science is never settled. Especially the pseudo science of climate modeling.

Which has been remarkably successful. If anyone told you otherwise, they lied to your face.

Of course, the success of the models is just icing on the cake. The direct evidence alone overwhelmingly confirms AGW theory.

In comparison, you and your cult have faceplanted hard with every single prediction for over 40 years running. You can't even get the direction of the change right. Most of your cult is still predicting NewIceAgeTomorrow, same as you were doing in the 1970s. That's why the whole planet correctly classifies you as politically-motivated cult clowns.

 

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That circulation only affects a small area, relative to the whole globe, in the north atlantic. The heat that doesn't go there stays somewhere else, so global averages don't change.

The normal people point out that after CO2 rises, it takes a few centuries for temperatures to fully stabilize at the new higher level. That's the lag time. It takes a long time for the oceans to warm across the globe.

The science says that temperatures now should still be lower than past equilibrium temperatures for the same CO2 levels, because equilibrium hasn't been reached.

The science is right. You don't understand the science. That only makes you look bad.

You just showed how ignorant you are on this subject.

A forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) is a major concern as it is one of the most important tipping elements in Earth’s climate system1,2,3.

Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation - Nature Communications

The Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) is a major tipping element in the climate system. Here, data-driven estimators for the time of tipping predict a potential AMOC collapse mid-century under the current emission scenario.

www.nature.com

Ancient Ocean Currents May Have Changed Pacing and Intensity of Ice Ages - The Earth Institute - Columbia University

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www.pnas.org

Global surface warming enhanced by weak Atlantic overturning circulation - Nature

In preindustrial times, a weak Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation led to cooling in the Northern Hemisphere, but now it is predicted to cause accelerated global surface warming.

www.nature.com

 

[mamooth]

A forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) is a major concern as it is one of the most important tipping elements in Earth’s climate system1,2,3.

It's funny watching Ding alternatrely quotes pieces saying that global warming can cause AMOC changes, in between declaring that AGW is a hoax. The poor boy can't make up his mind.

 

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It's funny watching Ding alternatrely quotes pieces saying that global warming can cause AMOC changes, in between declaring that AGW is a hoax. The poor boy can't make up his mind.

You've already exposed yourself as being ignorant when you dismissed what happens in the Arctic as regional.

How many more links to papers do you need to see before you apologize for being such a dumbass?

 

[mamooth]

You've already exposed yourself as being ignorant when you dismissed what happens in the Arctic as regional.

How many more links to papers do you need to see before you apologize for being such a dumbass?

Understood. You're going to keep citing papers that are based on AGW theory as proof that the theory is wrong.

And to think you wonder why nobody takes you seriously.

Anyways, what the endgame in regards to your cult mewling? Do you think that, somehow, if you're crazy enough on this topic, that it will magically cause everyone to support your quest for a Stalinist utopia?

 

[ding]

Understood. You're going to keep citing papers that are based on AGW theory as proof that the theory is wrong.

And to think you wonder why nobody takes you seriously.

Anyways, what the endgame in regards to your cult mewling? Do you think that, somehow, if you're crazy enough on this topic, that it will magically cause everyone to support your quest for a Stalinist utopia?

I keep citing papers that talk about the affect of ocean currents on the most critical location on the planet for climate fluctuations and tipping points; the northern hemisphere, specifically the Arctic. That you don't know these things is why I don't take you seriously.

 

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Understood. You're going to keep citing papers that are based on AGW theory as proof that the theory is wrong.

And to think you wonder why nobody takes you seriously.

Anyways, what the endgame in regards to your cult mewling? Do you think that, somehow, if you're crazy enough on this topic, that it will magically cause everyone to support your quest for a Stalinist utopia?

Do you know what the temperature threshold is for extensive continental glaciation in the Northern Hemisphere? Do you know how much warmer the Arctic is due warm ocean currents from the Atlantic? Do you suppose these things are unknowable? Because they aren't unknowable. In fact they are well established. So why don't you look up this data and start connecting some dots?

Hint: the answer is 2C for both questions.

 

[mamooth]

Do you know what the temperature threshold is for extensive continental glaciation? Do you know how much warmer the Arctic is due warm ocean currents? Do you suppose these things are unknowable? Because they aren't unknowable. In fact they are well established. So why don't you look up this data and start connecting some dots?

You keep babbling about things you don't understand, and everyone understands that. You really should stop annoying the grownups.

 

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You keep babbling about things you don't understand, and everyone understands that. You really should stop annoying the grownups.

You don't like science? You don't like evidence?

Do you really believe the disruption of ocean currents can't cause extensive continental glaciation in the Northern Hemisphere? Do you really believe that extensive continental glaciation in the Northern Hemisphere isn't what has been triggering glacial cycles for the past 3 million years?

Just how big of a dumbass are you? What the fuck do you know?

 

[ding]

You keep babbling about things you don't understand, and everyone understands that. You really should stop annoying the grownups.

You are getting your ass kicked.

 

[mamooth]

You don't like science? You don't like evidence?

In all of your years of crying and deflecting here, have you ever convinced anyone of your point? Heck, have you ever been able to even articulate a coherent point?

No?

You make as much sense as a flat-earther, so you're treated like one. And no, despite what you think, repetition won't make your flat-earther-type beliefs any more sensible.

Now, proceed to cry about how nobody pays attention to you. But then, we don't pay attention to the Unibomber either, for the same reasons we pay no attention to you.

 

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In all of your years of crying and deflecting here, have you ever convinced anyone of your point? Heck, have you ever been able to even articulate a coherent point?

No?

You make as much sense as a flat-earther, so you're treated like one. And no, despite what you think, repetition won't make your flat-earther-type beliefs any more sensible.

Now, proceed to cry about how nobody pays attention to you. But then, we don't pay attention to the Unibomber either, for the same reasons we pay no attention to you.

You haven't offered one thing to this conversation other than insults. I've been discussing the drivers of the climate; glaciation thresholds, ocean circulation of heat, etc.

You are an ant compared to me.

 

[mamooth]

I've been discussing the drivers of the climate; glaciation thresholds, ocean circulation of heat, etc.

Yet you've never been able to make a cogent point. You babble a lot random data, and then pretend it means something.

You are an ant compared to me.

Flat earthers and the Unibomber talk the same way. We're used to dealing with the mentally ill.