114 Democrats Urge Obama to Use Executive Orders to Circumvent Congress and the Constitution

[JimBowie1958]

Republicans in congress are free to override any executive order that is issued

Why dont they?

because they need legal standing and they don't have it. Funny how ODS sufferers overlook that fact.

RW does his best to first blame George W Bush, and when he cant do that he blames the GOP, and when he cant do that he blames everybody else.

 

[JimBowie1958]

114 House Democrats Urge Obama to Sidestep Congress for Gun Control - Breitbart

On November 23 Representative Rep. Mike Thompson (D-CA) and 113 of his Democrat colleagues submitted a letter urging President Obama to circumvent Congress by using executive action to expand background checks to cover private gun sales.

The letter says:

The Republican leadership in Congress continues to sit on their hands as gun violence becomes America’s new normal,” and asks Obama to simply go away the people’s elected leadership and institute gun control unilaterally…Since Congress won’t step up, the President should. Through executive action he can help keep guns from criminals, domestic abusers and the dangerously mentally ill. Something needs to be done and since Republicans in Congress can’t even bring themselves to hold a vote, this is the best option to make our country safer and save lives

The House Democrats’ push for executive action came on the same day that 24 Senate Democrats urged Obama to go around Congress and implement more gun control via executive action. The Senate action, which was headed by Sens. Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) and Chris Murphy (D-CT), followed on the heels of Senator Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA) calls for action following the August 26 on-air attack against a Virginia reporter and her cameraman.

Dhimmicrats have no moral, legal or principled restraint to their lust for power.

Please Obama please. Declare guns illegal unilaterally. Order the American people to turn over their guns. Please do it. Make it your October surprise. Oh...close GITMO too and release the prisoners in American towns.

Do it, Mr President.

Most Americans support background checks

Fuck that! Ban all guns everywhere Barrack.

Have you ever sat down and calculated how many millions would die in a new American Civil War?

Start with all the people who depend on medicines that will be likely to die if their supply is interrupted. Then look at the people dependent on daily medical care.The many who would die for lack of antibiotics and emergency medical care, all taken up to treat casualties. And these are just the innocents, and there are many many more. A great many mother's and father's children will die fighting in a war that could have been avoided? Have you ever known parents who have lost their child in war? I have, and they suffer very much.

IF we have a civil war it will not fought in the mountains and marshes like some Hollywood movie. It will be fought on peoples front door thresholds.

I want to avert any such catastrophe with all my heart.

But better that then to give up our guns. Period.

 

[Dot Com]

Republicans in congress are free to override any executive order that is issued

Why dont they?

because they need legal standing and they don't have it. Funny how ODS sufferers overlook that fact.

RW does his best to first blame George W Bush, and when he cant do that he blames the GOP, and when he cant do that he blames everybody else.

you didn't answer his question. Theres a reason that the Repub Congress won't challenge the order. Do you know why that is?

 

[Steven_R]

Republicans in congress are free to override any executive order that is issued

Why dont they?

They don't need to. Executive orders are there to administer the laws on the books. They were never intended as an end run around the legislative process. Is that really something we want as a precedent?

Why don't the Democrats use the legislative process instead of ignoring it when it isn't going their way?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Republicans in congress are free to override any executive order that is issued

Why dont they?

because they need legal standing and they don't have it. Funny how ODS sufferers overlook that fact.

RW does his best to first blame George W Bush, and when he cant do that he blames the GOP, and when he cant do that he blames everybody else.

you didn't answer his question. Theres a reason that the Repub Congress won't challenge the order. Do you know why that is?

It depends on the specific EO. Which one are you talking about?

 

[Dot Com]

Republicans in congress are free to override any executive order that is issued

Why dont they?

because they need legal standing and they don't have it. Funny how ODS sufferers overlook that fact.

RW does his best to first blame George W Bush, and when he cant do that he blames the GOP, and when he cant do that he blames everybody else.

you didn't answer his question. Theres a reason that the Repub Congress won't challenge the order. Do you know why that is?

It depends on the specific EO. Which one are you talking about?

I'll make it easy for you- pick any one thats being whined about by you people on Thanksgiving.

 

[rightwinger]

Congress is a useless legislative body

I encourage Obama to use executive orders until Congress can legislate otherwise

I encourage President Cruz or Trump to outaw democrats from voting and for democrat votes in Congrss only counting 2/5th.

The next Republican President hasn't been born yet

 

[JimBowie1958]

Republicans in congress are free to override any executive order that is issued

Why dont they?

because they need legal standing and they don't have it. Funny how ODS sufferers overlook that fact.

RW does his best to first blame George W Bush, and when he cant do that he blames the GOP, and when he cant do that he blames everybody else.

you didn't answer his question. Theres a reason that the Repub Congress won't challenge the order. Do you know why that is?

It depends on the specific EO. Which one are you talking about?

I'll make it easy for you- pick any one thats being whined about by you people on Thanksgiving.

OK, Obama's EO on illegal immigrants is not taken to court by the GOP because
1. Most of them want to step and fetch for the corporate masters so they dont want to do anything, at least among the Congressional leadership
2. The GOP in Congress has no standing as Obamy's EO has no direct impact on them.

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans in congress are free to override any executive order that is issued

Why dont they?

They don't need to. Executive orders are there to administer the laws on the books. They were never intended as an end run around the legislative process. Is that really something we want as a precedent?

Why don't the Democrats use the legislative process instead of ignoring it when it isn't going their way?

Our President is operating within the bounds of his executive powers

If not, take him to court

 

[Dot Com]

Republicans in congress are free to override any executive order that is issued

Why dont they?

They don't need to. Executive orders are there to administer the laws on the books. They were never intended as an end run around the legislative process. Is that really something we want as a precedent?

Why don't the Democrats use the legislative process instead of ignoring it when it isn't going their way?

Our President is operating within the bounds of his executive powers

If not, take him to court

thats what Jim Crowie1958 doesn't understand. He criticizes the gubmint but doesn't even know how it works

 

[Steven_R]

Can't take him to court until after he does something and even then it will take years to sort it all out.

But that doesn't answer the question: do you really want executive orders to be an end run around the legislative process when things aren't going you way? Is that really a precedent you want to set?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Republicans in congress are free to override any executive order that is issued

Why dont they?

They don't need to. Executive orders are there to administer the laws on the books. They were never intended as an end run around the legislative process. Is that really something we want as a precedent?

Why don't the Democrats use the legislative process instead of ignoring it when it isn't going their way?

Our President is operating within the bounds of his executive powers

If not, take him to court

And any president is operating within the bounds of executive power until such time as the Supreme Court rules otherwise.

Given the Bush/Cheney years and that administration’s perception of the presidency and the powers of the CE, conservatives are in no position to whine about Obama’s ‘overreach.’

 

[JimBowie1958]

Republicans in congress are free to override any executive order that is issued

Why dont they?

They don't need to. Executive orders are there to administer the laws on the books. They were never intended as an end run around the legislative process. Is that really something we want as a precedent?

Why don't the Democrats use the legislative process instead of ignoring it when it isn't going their way?

Our President is operating within the bounds of his executive powers

If not, take him to court

thats what Jim Crowie1958 doesn't understand. He criticizes the gubmint but doesn't even know how it works

I understand that Congress is run by men who owe their careers to corporate lobbyists who give them the vast majority of their re-election funds.

And these whores are too smart to bite the hand that feeds them.

Beyond that there isnt much more to understand.

 

[Steven_R]

Republicans in congress are free to override any executive order that is issued

Why dont they?

They don't need to. Executive orders are there to administer the laws on the books. They were never intended as an end run around the legislative process. Is that really something we want as a precedent?

Why don't the Democrats use the legislative process instead of ignoring it when it isn't going their way?

Our President is operating within the bounds of his executive powers

If not, take him to court

And any president is operating within the bounds of executive power until such time as the Supreme Court rules otherwise.

Given the Bush/Cheney years and that administration’s perception of the presidency and the powers of the CE, conservatives are in no position to whine about Obama’s ‘overreach.’

But but but Bush/Cheney did it!

I don't care who did it or which party did it. Using the executive orders to get around the legislative process because you don't like the way it's going is dangerous. Might as well not even have a legislative process if we're going to allow the executive to define the laws in way that allow them to do whatever they want whenever they want because going through Congress is tough.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Can't take him to court until after he does something and even then it will take years to sort it all out.

But that doesn't answer the question: do you really want executive orders to be an end run around the legislative process when things aren't going you way? Is that really a precedent you want to set?

The libtards want an imperial Presidency as long as it is a Marxist Dhimmicrat that is President. IF he is a Republican then they will fight that tooth and nail and support Congress, if they can use Congress to block him, and the SCOTUS if they can use them.

They are ideologues and they dont give a flying shit about anything other than advancing that ideology. Nothing more, nothing less, and they will trample the Constitution, the Founding Fathers anything that they think that is in their way.

 

[JakeStarkey]

There will be no new civil war, so you feckless pretend Americans of the far right can stop trembling.

 

[the_human_being]

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Breitbart? I thought that rw muckraker retired years ago?

Obama had him killed for finding this

so some unpaid student put together a school pamphlet and you birfers put all you eggs in that basket?

All I can say is "rent-free"

I think Obama told his colleges he was born in Kenya because otherwise he's just another low IQ American

 

[daws101]

Breitbart? I thought that rw muckraker retired years ago?

Obama had him killed for finding this

so some unpaid student put together a school pamphlet and you birfers put all you eggs in that basket?

All I can say is "rent-free"

I think Obama told his colleges he was born in Kenya because otherwise he's just another low IQ American

Says the winner of the lowest IQ in the USA contest.