10 steps to a dictatorship

[MaggieMae]

Have you forgotten about the place you screamed about and said it should be closed? After all obama said he was going to close it this year. The shit is right under your nose and you can't see it, that is unless Bush was still president.

But your little plagiarized diatribe wasn't talking about gitmo, it was talking about labor camps, a' la Nazism. Of course Gitmo isn't closed. Guess who just said NO!! Again, Obama can't simply issue an executive order to close it.

Do you want to read the first sentance in that post one more time?

Create a gulag

Once you have got everyone scared, the next step is to create a prison system outside the rule of law (as Bush put it, he wanted the American detention centre at Guantánamo Bay to be situated in legal "outer space") - where torture takes place.

Really? obama can't sign an excutive ordser closing gitmo?
Obama signs order to close Guantanamo Bay facility

Obama signs order to close Guantanamo Bay facility - CNN

Gitmo was designated for a specific use: Terrorists captured on the battlefields during the Iraq/Afghanistan wars, not for housing political dissenters which is what you people have been discussing. Geezus...

An Executive Order is a commitment to do something; it isn't an "order" intending to circumvent legislative power.

 

[MaggieMae]

Why are you this reply it was busted two pages back.

When? Oh, by YOU? Now that IS funny. Look, I know you really try to come off as well-read and stuff and an expert on all things, and I suppose you're at least to be commended for being interested in all these subjects. But you really need to expand your knowledge on almost all of it. A snappy one-liner attempting to refute clear statements based on factual information just doesn't cut it.

Expert? It's experts that has fucked this country up, so nope I am not an expert. I use common sense something that you are lacking.

Well then let's hear your common sense solutions that can effectively be put in motion, bearing in mind that we're a country of 305 million diverse people.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

"Change" is what anyone who runs for office campaigns on. If not change, why bother? Obama, like any and all new presidents before him, thought he could outwit the Washington system. And like every and all new presidents, discovered to his dismay that it takes more than convincing words when you're up against a professional army of veteran lobbyists with fistfuls of cash.

Have you seen any change since obama became President?

Some small, some big, some good, some controversial. They haven't been sitting around picking their noses. Perhaps you or someone else here could pick a few out of this list that represent a removal of one of your freedoms.

Aug 13, 2010 SW Border Security
Aug 11, 2010 Mortgage Insurance Flexibility Act
Aug 11, 2010 Manufacturing Enhancement Act
Aug 10, 2010 FAA Modernization/Safety Improvement Act
Aug 10, 2010 Cell Phone Contraband Act
Aug 3, 2010 Memorandum Freezing Awards & Bonuses
Aug 3, 2010 Fair Sentencing Act
Jul 29, 2010 Tribal Law & Order Act
Jul 27, 2010 Cruise Ship Security Act
Jul 27, 2010 CARD Act Date Amendments
Jul 26, 2010 Exec Order - Increase Fed Employment of Disabled
Jul 22, 2010 Unemployment Extension
Jul 21, 2010 Wall Street Reform
Jul 19, 2010 Exec Order - Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force
Jul 19, 2010 Fed Worker Safety/Reemployment Initiative
Jul 13, 2010 National HIV/AIDS Strategy
Jul 7, 2010 Formaldehyde Standards In Comp Wood
Jul 2, 2010 Homebuyer Assistance/Improvement Act
Jul 1, 2010 Iran Sanctions
Jun 18, 2010 No Lobbyists On Federal Boards/Commissions
Jun 18, 2010 Memorandum Federal Do Not Pay Databases
Jun 17, 2010 Small Business Act
Jun 15, 2010 Bill Authorizing Advances From BP Oil
Jun 10, 2010 Memorandum To Dispose of Unneeded Fed Property
Jun 9, 2010 Families of Fallen Heroes Act
Jun 3, 2010 Summer Jobs Act
Jun 2, 2010 Memorandum Benefits Same-Sex Partners
May 27, 2010 Judiciary Administrative Improvements Act
May 24, 2010 LRA Disarmamanet/No Uganda Recovery Act
May 21, 2010 Federal Fleet Fuel Efficiency Memorandum
May 17, 2010 Daniel Pearl Press Act
May 11, 2010 Memorandum Improve Federal Hiring
May 3, 2010 Memorandum Space Industry Task Force
Apr 26, 2010 Task Force Veteran's Small Business
Apr 22, 2010 National Defense Authorization
Apr 21, 2010 Council On Science & Technology
Apr 12, 2010 Honoring Victims of Mine Disaster
Apr 8, 2010 Nuclear Arms Reduction Treaty
Mar 31, 2010 Release Portions of US Outer Continental Shelf
Mar 30, 2010 Health Care and Education Reconciliation
Mar 23, 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care
Mar 18, 2010 Hiring Incentives To Restore Employment HIRE Act
Mar 11, 2010 National Export Initiative
Mar 10, 2010 MEM US-India Nuclear Cooperation & Nonproliferation Act
Mar 10, 2010 MEM Finding and Recapturing Improper Payments
Feb 23, 2010 Exec Order Historically Black Colleges & Universities
Feb 12, 2010 HJ Res 45, Implements Pay As You Go, Pay-Go
Feb 9, 2010 Task Force on Childhood Obesity
Feb 3, 2010 Strategy on Carbon Capture & Storage
Jan 29, 2010 Commission on America's Nuclear Future
Jan 22, 2010 Tax Breaks For Haiti Donations
Jan 11, 2010 Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors

Dec 29, 2009 Executive Order - Classified National Security Information, creating a uniform system for classifying, safeguarding, and declassifying national security information
Dec 15, 2009 Memorandum Naming Thomson Correctional Center incarceration unit for Guantanamo detainees.
Dec 9, 2009 Memorandum creating the Medicare Federally Qualified Health Center Advanced Primary Care Practice demonstration, to conduct experiments and demonstrations on changes in payments and services that may improve the quality and efficiency of services to beneficiaries
Dec 9, 2009 Labor - Management Forums between managers, employees, and union reps will discuss workplace challenges and develop solutions jointly.
Nov 23, 2009 Executive Order Reducing Improper Payments and Eliminating Waste in Federal Programs
Nov 17, 2009 Executive Order Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force to support investigation and prosecution of cases of bank, mortgage, loan, and lending fraud; securities and commodities fraud; retirement plan fraud; mail and wire fraud; tax crimes; money laundering; False Claims Act violations; unfair competition; discrimination; and other financial crimes and violations.
Nov 9, 2009 Executive Order Veteran's Employment Initiative creates Council on Veteran's Employment.
Nov 6, 2009 Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009 which additional emergency unemployment compensation; extends the $8,000 First-Time Homebuyer Tax Credit through April 30, 2010, increases from two to five preceding years the period for which businesses can offset net operation losses in 2008 and 2009 against income;
Oct 31, 2009 Ryan White Act
Oct 30, 2009 Visitors Records Released
Oct 28, 2009 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010
Matthew Shepherd - James Byrd Jr Hate Crimes Act
Oct 22, 2009 Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act
Oct 5, 2009 Executive Order Setting Sustainability Goals For Federal Agencies
Sep 17, 2009 Medical Tort Reform Demonstration Grants
Aug 6, 2009 Creation of 3 new scenic trails, Pacific Northwest National Scenic Trail, the New England National Scenic Trail and the Arizona National Scenic Trail
Aug 6, 2009 $2.4 Billion In Advanced Battery Development
Aug 3, 2009 Post 9/11 GI Bill
July 27, 2009 Cash For Clunkers cars.gov
July 6, 2009 Arms Reduction, Bilateral Presidential Commission Russia
Jun 12, 2009 Kids Tobacco Legislation
May 21, 2009 Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform
May 20, 2009 Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights
May 19, 2009 Helping Families Save Their Homes Act
May 18, 2009 Mortgage Fraud and Recovery Act and Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission
May 12, 2009 Chesapeake Bay Protection and Restoration Exec Order
Apr 21, 2009 Kennedy Serve America Act

Mar 30, 2009 Omnibus Public Lands Wilderness Act
Mar 11, 2009 Omnibus Appropriations Act
Mar 11, 2009 Executive Order Creating the White House Council on Women and Girls

Mar 9, 2009 Removing Barriers to Responsible Scientific Research Involving Human Stem Cells
Feb 17, 2009 Recovery & Reinvestment Act

Feb 6, 2009 Executive Order: Use of Project Labor Agreements for Federal Construction Projects

Feb 5, 2009 Amendments to Executive Order 13199 and Establishment of the President's Advisory Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships

Feb 4, 2009 Presidential Memorandum -- State Children's Health Insurance Program
Jan 30, 2009 Executive Order -- Economy in Government Contracting
Jan 30, 2009 Executive Order -- Notificiation of Employee Rights Under Federal Labor Laws
Jan 29, 2009 Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
Jan 27, 2009 Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs Related to Gaza
Jan 26, 2009 The Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007
Jan 26, 2009 California Request for Waiver Under the Clean Air Act
Jan 23, 2009 Mexico City Policy and Assistance for Voluntary Population Planning
Jan 22, 2009 Review of Detention Policy Options
Jan 22, 2009 Review of the Detention of Ali Saleh Kahlah
Jan 22, 2009 Closure Of Guantanamo Detention Facilities
Jan 22, 2009 Ensuring Lawful Interrogations
Jan 21, 2009 Ethics Commitments By Executive Branch Personnel
Jan 21, 2009 Presidential Records
Jan 21, 2009 Freedom of Information Act
Jan 21, 2009 Pay Freeze
Jan 21, 2009 Transparency and Open Government

Jan 21, 2009 Transparency and Open Government

OH
Jan 22, 2009 Closure Of Guantanamo Detention Facilities
yOU SAID HE HADN'T SIGNED A presidental order closing gitmo.

 

[MaggieMae]

Many who supported the government in Germany 1933 sounded just like you.

Okay, then, the first shot is at dawn. Now go get drunk, for everyone will be dead in a fortnight. Happy?

I am sure you will stand with a dictator that is if he is wearing your political colors.

See it's ignorant comments like that which put a big FAIL stamp on everything you said. Everything.

 

[Harry Dresden]

People we need to get away from our partisanships. The Government does not care for the people of this country. They will give justr enough to make the people move the way they want them to move. Here are 10 steps you do not have to respond just look at the steps and ask yourself does any of this look familure? Be honest with yourself time is short.

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
2. Create a gulag
3. Develop a thug caste
4. Set up an internal surveillance system
5. Harass citizens' groups
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
7. Target key individuals
8. Control the press
9. Dissent equals treason
10. Suspend the rule of law

Naomi Wolf: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps | World news | The Guardian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

When Naomi Wolf was lecturing during the Bush administration she was roundly scoffed at as a loon by Conservatives. Now she makes sense?

Woah..what's changed?

the President.....

 

[MaggieMae]

Have you seen any change since obama became President?

Some small, some big, some good, some controversial. They haven't been sitting around picking their noses. Perhaps you or someone else here could pick a few out of this list that represent a removal of one of your freedoms.

Aug 13, 2010 SW Border Security
Aug 11, 2010 Mortgage Insurance Flexibility Act
Aug 11, 2010 Manufacturing Enhancement Act
Aug 10, 2010 FAA Modernization/Safety Improvement Act
Aug 10, 2010 Cell Phone Contraband Act
Aug 3, 2010 Memorandum Freezing Awards & Bonuses
Aug 3, 2010 Fair Sentencing Act
Jul 29, 2010 Tribal Law & Order Act
Jul 27, 2010 Cruise Ship Security Act
Jul 27, 2010 CARD Act Date Amendments
Jul 26, 2010 Exec Order - Increase Fed Employment of Disabled
Jul 22, 2010 Unemployment Extension
Jul 21, 2010 Wall Street Reform
Jul 19, 2010 Exec Order - Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force
Jul 19, 2010 Fed Worker Safety/Reemployment Initiative
Jul 13, 2010 National HIV/AIDS Strategy
Jul 7, 2010 Formaldehyde Standards In Comp Wood
Jul 2, 2010 Homebuyer Assistance/Improvement Act
Jul 1, 2010 Iran Sanctions
Jun 18, 2010 No Lobbyists On Federal Boards/Commissions
Jun 18, 2010 Memorandum Federal Do Not Pay Databases
Jun 17, 2010 Small Business Act
Jun 15, 2010 Bill Authorizing Advances From BP Oil
Jun 10, 2010 Memorandum To Dispose of Unneeded Fed Property
Jun 9, 2010 Families of Fallen Heroes Act
Jun 3, 2010 Summer Jobs Act
Jun 2, 2010 Memorandum Benefits Same-Sex Partners
May 27, 2010 Judiciary Administrative Improvements Act
May 24, 2010 LRA Disarmamanet/No Uganda Recovery Act
May 21, 2010 Federal Fleet Fuel Efficiency Memorandum
May 17, 2010 Daniel Pearl Press Act
May 11, 2010 Memorandum Improve Federal Hiring
May 3, 2010 Memorandum Space Industry Task Force
Apr 26, 2010 Task Force Veteran's Small Business
Apr 22, 2010 National Defense Authorization
Apr 21, 2010 Council On Science & Technology
Apr 12, 2010 Honoring Victims of Mine Disaster
Apr 8, 2010 Nuclear Arms Reduction Treaty
Mar 31, 2010 Release Portions of US Outer Continental Shelf
Mar 30, 2010 Health Care and Education Reconciliation
Mar 23, 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care
Mar 18, 2010 Hiring Incentives To Restore Employment HIRE Act
Mar 11, 2010 National Export Initiative
Mar 10, 2010 MEM US-India Nuclear Cooperation & Nonproliferation Act
Mar 10, 2010 MEM Finding and Recapturing Improper Payments
Feb 23, 2010 Exec Order Historically Black Colleges & Universities
Feb 12, 2010 HJ Res 45, Implements Pay As You Go, Pay-Go
Feb 9, 2010 Task Force on Childhood Obesity
Feb 3, 2010 Strategy on Carbon Capture & Storage
Jan 29, 2010 Commission on America's Nuclear Future
Jan 22, 2010 Tax Breaks For Haiti Donations
Jan 11, 2010 Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors

Dec 29, 2009 Executive Order - Classified National Security Information, creating a uniform system for classifying, safeguarding, and declassifying national security information
Dec 15, 2009 Memorandum Naming Thomson Correctional Center incarceration unit for Guantanamo detainees.
Dec 9, 2009 Memorandum creating the Medicare Federally Qualified Health Center Advanced Primary Care Practice demonstration, to conduct experiments and demonstrations on changes in payments and services that may improve the quality and efficiency of services to beneficiaries
Dec 9, 2009 Labor - Management Forums between managers, employees, and union reps will discuss workplace challenges and develop solutions jointly.
Nov 23, 2009 Executive Order Reducing Improper Payments and Eliminating Waste in Federal Programs
Nov 17, 2009 Executive Order Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force to support investigation and prosecution of cases of bank, mortgage, loan, and lending fraud; securities and commodities fraud; retirement plan fraud; mail and wire fraud; tax crimes; money laundering; False Claims Act violations; unfair competition; discrimination; and other financial crimes and violations.
Nov 9, 2009 Executive Order Veteran's Employment Initiative creates Council on Veteran's Employment.
Nov 6, 2009 Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009 which additional emergency unemployment compensation; extends the $8,000 First-Time Homebuyer Tax Credit through April 30, 2010, increases from two to five preceding years the period for which businesses can offset net operation losses in 2008 and 2009 against income;
Oct 31, 2009 Ryan White Act
Oct 30, 2009 Visitors Records Released
Oct 28, 2009 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010
Matthew Shepherd - James Byrd Jr Hate Crimes Act
Oct 22, 2009 Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act
Oct 5, 2009 Executive Order Setting Sustainability Goals For Federal Agencies
Sep 17, 2009 Medical Tort Reform Demonstration Grants
Aug 6, 2009 Creation of 3 new scenic trails, Pacific Northwest National Scenic Trail, the New England National Scenic Trail and the Arizona National Scenic Trail
Aug 6, 2009 $2.4 Billion In Advanced Battery Development
Aug 3, 2009 Post 9/11 GI Bill
July 27, 2009 Cash For Clunkers cars.gov
July 6, 2009 Arms Reduction, Bilateral Presidential Commission Russia
Jun 12, 2009 Kids Tobacco Legislation
May 21, 2009 Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform
May 20, 2009 Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights
May 19, 2009 Helping Families Save Their Homes Act
May 18, 2009 Mortgage Fraud and Recovery Act and Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission
May 12, 2009 Chesapeake Bay Protection and Restoration Exec Order
Apr 21, 2009 Kennedy Serve America Act

Mar 30, 2009 Omnibus Public Lands Wilderness Act
Mar 11, 2009 Omnibus Appropriations Act
Mar 11, 2009 Executive Order Creating the White House Council on Women and Girls

Mar 9, 2009 Removing Barriers to Responsible Scientific Research Involving Human Stem Cells
Feb 17, 2009 Recovery & Reinvestment Act

Feb 6, 2009 Executive Order: Use of Project Labor Agreements for Federal Construction Projects

Feb 5, 2009 Amendments to Executive Order 13199 and Establishment of the President's Advisory Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships

Feb 4, 2009 Presidential Memorandum -- State Children's Health Insurance Program
Jan 30, 2009 Executive Order -- Economy in Government Contracting
Jan 30, 2009 Executive Order -- Notificiation of Employee Rights Under Federal Labor Laws
Jan 29, 2009 Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
Jan 27, 2009 Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs Related to Gaza
Jan 26, 2009 The Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007
Jan 26, 2009 California Request for Waiver Under the Clean Air Act
Jan 23, 2009 Mexico City Policy and Assistance for Voluntary Population Planning
Jan 22, 2009 Review of Detention Policy Options
Jan 22, 2009 Review of the Detention of Ali Saleh Kahlah
Jan 22, 2009 Closure Of Guantanamo Detention Facilities
Jan 22, 2009 Ensuring Lawful Interrogations
Jan 21, 2009 Ethics Commitments By Executive Branch Personnel
Jan 21, 2009 Presidential Records
Jan 21, 2009 Freedom of Information Act
Jan 21, 2009 Pay Freeze
Jan 21, 2009 Transparency and Open Government

Jan 21, 2009 Transparency and Open Government

So there you go again with your complete lack of knowledge. This government IS the most transparent of any other in history. You can Google just about everything unclassified. You can watch government hearings on C-Span. You can follow the progression of every bill through Congress at opencongress.org AND read exact quotes from the parties making those laws. The Freedom of Information Act was brought out from behind closed doors once again. Can you be privy to every private meeting or whispers in the hallways? Well not yet, unless there are leaks.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Okay, then, the first shot is at dawn. Now go get drunk, for everyone will be dead in a fortnight. Happy?

I am sure you will stand with a dictator that is if he is wearing your political colors.

See it's ignorant comments like that which put a big FAIL stamp on everything you said. Everything.

I'm tring to point out the signs that show we are heading in that direction and you scoff at it. Read some memoirs of Germans that lived during that time.
William Shirer: The nightmare years 1930 to 1940

Memoirs of German-Jewish women who left Germany in the 1930s
ProQuest Document View - Lives remembered: Memoirs of German-Jewish women who left Germany in the 1930s

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Some small, some big, some good, some controversial. They haven't been sitting around picking their noses. Perhaps you or someone else here could pick a few out of this list that represent a removal of one of your freedoms.

Aug 13, 2010 SW Border Security
Aug 11, 2010 Mortgage Insurance Flexibility Act
Aug 11, 2010 Manufacturing Enhancement Act
Aug 10, 2010 FAA Modernization/Safety Improvement Act
Aug 10, 2010 Cell Phone Contraband Act
Aug 3, 2010 Memorandum Freezing Awards & Bonuses
Aug 3, 2010 Fair Sentencing Act
Jul 29, 2010 Tribal Law & Order Act
Jul 27, 2010 Cruise Ship Security Act
Jul 27, 2010 CARD Act Date Amendments
Jul 26, 2010 Exec Order - Increase Fed Employment of Disabled
Jul 22, 2010 Unemployment Extension
Jul 21, 2010 Wall Street Reform
Jul 19, 2010 Exec Order - Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force
Jul 19, 2010 Fed Worker Safety/Reemployment Initiative
Jul 13, 2010 National HIV/AIDS Strategy
Jul 7, 2010 Formaldehyde Standards In Comp Wood
Jul 2, 2010 Homebuyer Assistance/Improvement Act
Jul 1, 2010 Iran Sanctions
Jun 18, 2010 No Lobbyists On Federal Boards/Commissions
Jun 18, 2010 Memorandum Federal Do Not Pay Databases
Jun 17, 2010 Small Business Act
Jun 15, 2010 Bill Authorizing Advances From BP Oil
Jun 10, 2010 Memorandum To Dispose of Unneeded Fed Property
Jun 9, 2010 Families of Fallen Heroes Act
Jun 3, 2010 Summer Jobs Act
Jun 2, 2010 Memorandum Benefits Same-Sex Partners
May 27, 2010 Judiciary Administrative Improvements Act
May 24, 2010 LRA Disarmamanet/No Uganda Recovery Act
May 21, 2010 Federal Fleet Fuel Efficiency Memorandum
May 17, 2010 Daniel Pearl Press Act
May 11, 2010 Memorandum Improve Federal Hiring
May 3, 2010 Memorandum Space Industry Task Force
Apr 26, 2010 Task Force Veteran's Small Business
Apr 22, 2010 National Defense Authorization
Apr 21, 2010 Council On Science & Technology
Apr 12, 2010 Honoring Victims of Mine Disaster
Apr 8, 2010 Nuclear Arms Reduction Treaty
Mar 31, 2010 Release Portions of US Outer Continental Shelf
Mar 30, 2010 Health Care and Education Reconciliation
Mar 23, 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care
Mar 18, 2010 Hiring Incentives To Restore Employment HIRE Act
Mar 11, 2010 National Export Initiative
Mar 10, 2010 MEM US-India Nuclear Cooperation & Nonproliferation Act
Mar 10, 2010 MEM Finding and Recapturing Improper Payments
Feb 23, 2010 Exec Order Historically Black Colleges & Universities
Feb 12, 2010 HJ Res 45, Implements Pay As You Go, Pay-Go
Feb 9, 2010 Task Force on Childhood Obesity
Feb 3, 2010 Strategy on Carbon Capture & Storage
Jan 29, 2010 Commission on America's Nuclear Future
Jan 22, 2010 Tax Breaks For Haiti Donations
Jan 11, 2010 Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors

Dec 29, 2009 Executive Order - Classified National Security Information, creating a uniform system for classifying, safeguarding, and declassifying national security information
Dec 15, 2009 Memorandum Naming Thomson Correctional Center incarceration unit for Guantanamo detainees.
Dec 9, 2009 Memorandum creating the Medicare Federally Qualified Health Center Advanced Primary Care Practice demonstration, to conduct experiments and demonstrations on changes in payments and services that may improve the quality and efficiency of services to beneficiaries
Dec 9, 2009 Labor - Management Forums between managers, employees, and union reps will discuss workplace challenges and develop solutions jointly.
Nov 23, 2009 Executive Order Reducing Improper Payments and Eliminating Waste in Federal Programs
Nov 17, 2009 Executive Order Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force to support investigation and prosecution of cases of bank, mortgage, loan, and lending fraud; securities and commodities fraud; retirement plan fraud; mail and wire fraud; tax crimes; money laundering; False Claims Act violations; unfair competition; discrimination; and other financial crimes and violations.
Nov 9, 2009 Executive Order Veteran's Employment Initiative creates Council on Veteran's Employment.
Nov 6, 2009 Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009 which additional emergency unemployment compensation; extends the $8,000 First-Time Homebuyer Tax Credit through April 30, 2010, increases from two to five preceding years the period for which businesses can offset net operation losses in 2008 and 2009 against income;
Oct 31, 2009 Ryan White Act
Oct 30, 2009 Visitors Records Released
Oct 28, 2009 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010
Matthew Shepherd - James Byrd Jr Hate Crimes Act
Oct 22, 2009 Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act
Oct 5, 2009 Executive Order Setting Sustainability Goals For Federal Agencies
Sep 17, 2009 Medical Tort Reform Demonstration Grants
Aug 6, 2009 Creation of 3 new scenic trails, Pacific Northwest National Scenic Trail, the New England National Scenic Trail and the Arizona National Scenic Trail
Aug 6, 2009 $2.4 Billion In Advanced Battery Development
Aug 3, 2009 Post 9/11 GI Bill
July 27, 2009 Cash For Clunkers cars.gov
July 6, 2009 Arms Reduction, Bilateral Presidential Commission Russia
Jun 12, 2009 Kids Tobacco Legislation
May 21, 2009 Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform
May 20, 2009 Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights
May 19, 2009 Helping Families Save Their Homes Act
May 18, 2009 Mortgage Fraud and Recovery Act and Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission
May 12, 2009 Chesapeake Bay Protection and Restoration Exec Order
Apr 21, 2009 Kennedy Serve America Act

Mar 30, 2009 Omnibus Public Lands Wilderness Act
Mar 11, 2009 Omnibus Appropriations Act
Mar 11, 2009 Executive Order Creating the White House Council on Women and Girls

Mar 9, 2009 Removing Barriers to Responsible Scientific Research Involving Human Stem Cells
Feb 17, 2009 Recovery & Reinvestment Act

Feb 6, 2009 Executive Order: Use of Project Labor Agreements for Federal Construction Projects

Feb 5, 2009 Amendments to Executive Order 13199 and Establishment of the President's Advisory Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships

Feb 4, 2009 Presidential Memorandum -- State Children's Health Insurance Program
Jan 30, 2009 Executive Order -- Economy in Government Contracting
Jan 30, 2009 Executive Order -- Notificiation of Employee Rights Under Federal Labor Laws
Jan 29, 2009 Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
Jan 27, 2009 Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs Related to Gaza
Jan 26, 2009 The Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007
Jan 26, 2009 California Request for Waiver Under the Clean Air Act
Jan 23, 2009 Mexico City Policy and Assistance for Voluntary Population Planning
Jan 22, 2009 Review of Detention Policy Options
Jan 22, 2009 Review of the Detention of Ali Saleh Kahlah
Jan 22, 2009 Closure Of Guantanamo Detention Facilities
Jan 22, 2009 Ensuring Lawful Interrogations
Jan 21, 2009 Ethics Commitments By Executive Branch Personnel
Jan 21, 2009 Presidential Records
Jan 21, 2009 Freedom of Information Act
Jan 21, 2009 Pay Freeze
Jan 21, 2009 Transparency and Open Government

Jan 21, 2009 Transparency and Open Government

So there you go again with your complete lack of knowledge. This government IS the most transparent of any other in history. You can Google just about everything unclassified. You can watch government hearings on C-Span. You can follow the progression of every bill through Congress at opencongress.org AND read exact quotes from the parties making those laws. The Freedom of Information Act was brought out from behind closed doors once again. Can you be privy to every private meeting or whispers in the hallways? Well not yet, unless there are leaks.

With a comment like this I see there is no hope for you. As I said as long as the dictator wears your political colors you will fall right in line.

Didn't you say obama had not signed a presidental order closing gitmo?
Jan 22, 2009 Closure Of Guantanamo Detention Facilities

 

[MikeK]

Fear.


Nothing more, nothing less.

Blowing it wayyyy out of proportion here bigreb.

You who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. (Santayana)

 

[Sallow]

Really? Then you shouldn't have a problem defending her now. Why is that you think the take over will happen over night? You should be saying welcome aboard.

I didn't defend her then.

I thought Bush was doing some very assinine things..that were roundly Unconstitutional. But I did not..and still do not think he was going for a dictatorship.

I don't think Bush himself was pushing for a dictatorship, but Cheney was certainly a fan of the "Unitary Executive," and many of the posters here on USMB are too.

The Problem I had with Bush is that he's put in place a great many of the tools that can one day be used to introduce a Dictatorship. Capital "D". The Department of Homeland Security is currently too inept to be the tool of a dictator, but a competent administrator at the head of it and the DHS suddenly looks pretty terrifying. The ability to declare a natural born US citizen an enemy combatant and send them to Gitmo originated under Bush too.

Heck, we've had threads right here on USMB where people actively supported targetting Natural Born US Citizens for assassination once they were declared an enemy combatant.

If anything, we've been lucky that Bush and Obama have been flat out too incompetent to actually realize the tools they now have at their disposal, but time is running out. Once a truly intellegent person gets the Oval Office, if Executive Power isn't rolled back you'll have a situation on your hands that dwarfs Watergate easily.

I don't think Bush was stupid, he just wasn't up for the job. And you are right about Cheney..damn that guy was and is..a loon. Obama is really intelligent..and if you look at what he's done..it's been pretty much in keeping with the "process" of the government as perscribed in the United States Constitution.

But you have a point. Our government, as it is now, backed by the sort of military we have..is very seductive to those that would gloam power.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

I don't think Bush was stupid, he just wasn't up for the job. And you are right about Cheney..damn that guy was and is..a loon. Obama is really intelligent..and if you look at what he's done..it's been pretty much in keeping with the "process" of the government as perscribed in the United States Constitution.

But you have a point. Our government, as it is now, backed by the sort of military we have..is very seductive to those that would gloam power.

We're one truly ambitious and intelligent man away from a Dictatorship at this point. I'm not fear mongering, I'm just pointing out that the "Unitary Executive" that Cheney helped push for has the kinds of powers that would have made the Founders get itchy trigger fingers.

We are most certainly not a dictatorship yet. And we are most certainly not at the point that violence is even an option. But we are at the point where we need to start having a real discussion about how much power we're willing to allow the Executive Branch to continue to have. This is a conversation that desperately needs to be non-partisan.

The problem is the Partisans always back power grabs by their people, which means they look like hypocrites when they complain about the other side grabbing power. This "It's ok cause my party did it" mentality absolutely has to stop.

 

[edthecynic]

Fear.


Nothing more, nothing less.

Blowing it wayyyy out of proportion here bigreb.

You who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. (Santayana)

If history repeats itself, and the unexpected always happens, how incapable must Man be of learning from experience.
- George Bernard Shaw

 

[BlindBoo]

Let's not forget about the crazs.

Czars in their historical context do not exist in the US government period. That anyone thinks they do is a testement to the power of popular media. It is merely a rhetorical ploy.

Fear the President, he has czars. Hahahaha

They do exist sorry even Reagan had as couple. They answer only to obama or the president and make up policy's at their discreation.

The term Czar was actually coined by President Nixon and is only a nick name for any position with a cumbersome title. They are directors of policy departments and most (I don't know exact numbers) were established by prior administrations with little or no controversy. It is basically a kin to calling the Poster Master General the "Mail Czar." George W Bush even had a Bird Flu Czar.

It is merely a rhetorical ploy use to frighten the sheeple.

 

[MaggieMae]

Fear.


Nothing more, nothing less.

Blowing it wayyyy out of proportion here bigreb.

You who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. (Santayana)

The history of the Third Reich has hardly been ignored.

 

[MaggieMae]

So there you go again with your complete lack of knowledge. This government IS the most transparent of any other in history. You can Google just about everything unclassified. You can watch government hearings on C-Span. You can follow the progression of every bill through Congress at opencongress.org AND read exact quotes from the parties making those laws. The Freedom of Information Act was brought out from behind closed doors once again. Can you be privy to every private meeting or whispers in the hallways? Well not yet, unless there are leaks.

With a comment like this I see there is no hope for you. As I said as long as the dictator wears your political colors you will fall right in line.

Didn't you say obama had not signed a presidental order closing gitmo?
Jan 22, 2009 Closure Of Guantanamo Detention Facilities

I had forgotten he actually signed an EO making that commitment. My bad. Score one for you. But EOs are still not enforceable.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So there you go again with your complete lack of knowledge. This government IS the most transparent of any other in history. You can Google just about everything unclassified. You can watch government hearings on C-Span. You can follow the progression of every bill through Congress at opencongress.org AND read exact quotes from the parties making those laws. The Freedom of Information Act was brought out from behind closed doors once again. Can you be privy to every private meeting or whispers in the hallways? Well not yet, unless there are leaks.

With a comment like this I see there is no hope for you. As I said as long as the dictator wears your political colors you will fall right in line.

Didn't you say obama had not signed a presidental order closing gitmo?
Jan 22, 2009 Closure Of Guantanamo Detention Facilities

I had forgotten he actually signed an EO making that commitment. My bad. Score one for you. But EOs are still not enforceable.

Yes I think they are enforcable until they are written off by the president or the next elected president. Why else have a presidental order?

 

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Czars in their historical context do not exist in the US government period. That anyone thinks they do is a testement to the power of popular media. It is merely a rhetorical ploy.

Fear the President, he has czars. Hahahaha

They do exist sorry even Reagan had as couple. They answer only to obama or the president and make up policy's at their discreation.

The term Czar was actually coined by President Nixon and is only a nick name for any position with a cumbersome title. They are directors of policy departments and most (I don't know exact numbers) were established by prior administrations with little or no controversy. It is basically a kin to calling the Poster Master General the "Mail Czar." George W Bush even had a Bird Flu Czar.

It is merely a rhetorical ploy use to frighten the sheeple.

Actually it wasn't nixion who coined the pharse but the name was used by the media of the time.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I don't think Bush was stupid, he just wasn't up for the job. And you are right about Cheney..damn that guy was and is..a loon. Obama is really intelligent..and if you look at what he's done..it's been pretty much in keeping with the "process" of the government as perscribed in the United States Constitution.

But you have a point. Our government, as it is now, backed by the sort of military we have..is very seductive to those that would gloam power.

We're one truly ambitious and intelligent man away from a Dictatorship at this point. I'm not fear mongering, I'm just pointing out that the "Unitary Executive" that Cheney helped push for has the kinds of powers that would have made the Founders get itchy trigger fingers.

We are most certainly not a dictatorship yet. And we are most certainly not at the point that violence is even an option. But we are at the point where we need to start having a real discussion about how much power we're willing to allow the Executive Branch to continue to have. This is a conversation that desperately needs to be non-partisan.

The problem is the Partisans always back power grabs by their people, which means they look like hypocrites when they complain about the other side grabbing power. This "It's ok cause my party did it" mentality absolutely has to stop.

I agree. Lets start with the TSA. By law airports do not have to use the TSA they can use private security like they use to.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I don't think Bush was stupid, he just wasn't up for the job. And you are right about Cheney..damn that guy was and is..a loon. Obama is really intelligent..and if you look at what he's done..it's been pretty much in keeping with the "process" of the government as perscribed in the United States Constitution.

But you have a point. Our government, as it is now, backed by the sort of military we have..is very seductive to those that would gloam power.

We're one truly ambitious and intelligent man away from a Dictatorship at this point. I'm not fear mongering, I'm just pointing out that the "Unitary Executive" that Cheney helped push for has the kinds of powers that would have made the Founders get itchy trigger fingers.

We are most certainly not a dictatorship yet. And we are most certainly not at the point that violence is even an option. But we are at the point where we need to start having a real discussion about how much power we're willing to allow the Executive Branch to continue to have. This is a conversation that desperately needs to be non-partisan.

The problem is the Partisans always back power grabs by their people, which means they look like hypocrites when they complain about the other side grabbing power. This "It's ok cause my party did it" mentality absolutely has to stop.

I agree. Lets start with the TSA. By law airports do not have to use the TSA they can use private security like they use to.

But the law did allow a test program in which five airports were allowed to use private contractors. A number of studies done since then have shown that contractors perform a bit better than federal screeners, and they're also more flexible and open to innovation. (The federal government pays the cost of screening whether performed by the TSA or by contractors, and contractors work under federal supervision.)



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