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And this is posted because some imagine Catholics are not familiar with the verse? Catholics live it while also living by the other commandments and ways taught by Christ. Love. Faith. Works. All given by the grace of God to guide us on the way of salvation.Matthew 6:1-24
It pertains to good works, and has nothing to do with salvation. Christ's work on the cross was complete.And this is posted because some imagine Catholics are not familiar with the verse? Catholics live it while also living by the other commandments and ways taught by Christ. Love. Faith. Works. All given by the grace of God to guide us on the way of salvation.
Being helpful is a good trait, but has nothing to do with salvation. If you believe that people who don't accept God's gift of redemption through Christ go to heaven also, then you have to ignore what Christ said:When it comes to Christianity, we have who has the best denomination of it. There has to be some discipline in life though. Perfection is not demanded. I also believe that other people on this planet can go to heaven if not Christian. We have people who sit on their asses proclaiming faith while on the other side of the world some lady with limited resources helping every person she can and is not Christian.
It pertains to good works, and has nothing to do with salvation. Christ's work on the cross was complete.
Pelagianism is a fifth century heresy that Catholics rejected fifteen hundred years ago. I don't understand why that is so hard to understand. Nor should it be so hard to understand that in entering into God's grace, accepting the gift of salvation, we don't put this salvation on the back shelf of a closet. We use it! We follow the Way of Jesus (the Way of salvation) following his commands in love as he followed God's commandments with love. Catholics respond to salvation, and the works God planned, from the beginning, for us to accomplish.It pertains to good works, and has nothing to do with salvation. Christ's work on the cross was complete.
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Wrong. Listen.You believe that it needs to be added to
No. Sanctification.Purgatory is literally you working on your salvation.
I've never been in favor of proof-texting (cherry picking) a Biblical verse while ignoring what else is being said. In Catholicism we learn that our personal salvation and sanctification are ongoing. Perhaps your Christian denominations teaches positional salvation/sanctification and progressive sanctification? As a Catholic I can relate to these terms as well. Positional sanctification is the work Christ did that provided us with salvation and sanctification. It was freely given to us through the grace of God so that holiness may be ours so that we are enabled to use what was freely given. Reflect on the Parable of the Talents, a story given to us by Jesus. What will our return be?
So, you want to add you must also remain holy to the scripture?One must remain holy. Otherwise, you have given everyone a hall pass for unrestrained debauchery.
Every verse in the Bible is proof text. Using scripture to verify a fact isn't cherry picking. Scripture is used for:I've never been in favor of proof-texting (cherry picking) a Biblical verse while ignoring what else is being said. In Catholicism we learn that our personal salvation and sanctification are ongoing. Perhaps your Christian denominations teaches positional salvation/sanctification and progressive sanctification? As a Catholic I can relate to these terms as well. Positional sanctification is the work Christ did that provided us with salvation and sanctification. It was freely given to us through the grace of God so that holiness may be ours so that we are enabled to use what was freely given. Reflect on the Parable of the Talents, a story given to us by Jesus. What will our return be?
Did you notice 2 Timothy 3:14 said ALL scripture...? There is nothing about picking a verse here, skipping a verse there...or that in Paul's day, scripture was not his letters--it was the Hebrew Bible? Further, I don't have to prove otherwise. Scripture, for those paying attention to all of it, presents all the proof needed. So....No attack, a quiet point that all of scripture has more to say to us.Every verse in the Bible is proof text. Using scripture to verify a fact isn't cherry picking. Scripture is used for:
2 Tim. 3:14 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
^ All scripture.
Pretending it is cherry picking is just a way to say, "I can't prove otherwise, so I'll just attack the use of the text itself".
I don't ignore what else is being said, I weigh it in the balance of scripture. Perhaps your denomination evades it in favor of "what else is being said". You don't seem to be a big fan of it. You don't use it and complain about it when someone else does...
I've never been in favor of proof-texting (cherry picking) a Biblical verse while ignoring what else is being said.
And here we go again. No one is adding a thing to redemption, salvation, sanctification, or what Christ accomplished on the cross. The question is, WHAT OUGHT WE BE DOING? Is that so hard to answer?Meri, no one is slapping you in the face. And no one here has said we ought not to take care of the poor or spread the good news. What I am saying is caring for the poor does not add to the redemption that Christ accomplished for us on the cross. That is complete and needs no amount of good works on our part to complete it. That doesn't mean we sit on our butts and eat candy until we go home. If you have a heart for Jesus, you'll have a heart for the unfortunate too and do all the things you mentioned, for Jesus' sake. And I am not saying that to smack you with, but to debate a very important issue.
Calvinists do that quite a bit.
