Zogby Poll: 32% Say Fauci Looking Out for Big Pharma, Not Public

[San Souci]

I agree with you on Fauci, at least in the sense that he's saying things that aren't true. However, if I'd been American, I would have voted for Biden. I wanted Bernie, but it's hard to be worse than Trump in my view. Granted, Biden is still pretty bad, but Trump was in a league of his own in my view.

Who cares? Trump was far better than the Fairy YOU have.

I came to this forum to try to avoid these types of attacks, but at least you're not insulting me personally, so that's good at least . I definitely have my differences with Trudeau, but I'd take him over Trump in a heartbeat. Or Biden. I would prefer Bernie though.

Why? Do you have Communist leanings? Bernie IS a Communist.

No, he's not. Wikipedia gets it right:
**
Often considered one of the most popular politicians in America, Sanders self-identifies as a democratic socialist and has been credited with influencing a leftward shift in the Democratic Party since his 2016 presidential campaign. An advocate of social democratic and progressive policies, he is known for his opposition to economic inequality and neoliberalism. On domestic policy, he supports labor rights, universal and single-payer healthcare, paid parental leave, tuition-free tertiary education, and an ambitious Green New Deal to create jobs addressing climate change. On foreign policy, he supports reducing military spending, pursuing more diplomacy and international cooperation, and putting greater emphasis on labor rights and environmental concerns when negotiating international trade agreements. Sanders supports workplace democracy, and has praised elements of the Nordic model. Some commentators have described his politics as aligned with the New Deal policies of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and left-wing populism.
**

Source:

Bernie Sanders - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A Rose is a Rose is a rose. You sat tomatos ,I say Tomahtoes. And Bernie is a Red. If it quacks ,I assume it is a duck

 

[phoenyx]

I agree with you on Fauci, at least in the sense that he's saying things that aren't true. However, if I'd been American, I would have voted for Biden. I wanted Bernie, but it's hard to be worse than Trump in my view. Granted, Biden is still pretty bad, but Trump was in a league of his own in my view.

Who cares? Trump was far better than the Fairy YOU have.

I came to this forum to try to avoid these types of attacks, but at least you're not insulting me personally, so that's good at least . I definitely have my differences with Trudeau, but I'd take him over Trump in a heartbeat. Or Biden. I would prefer Bernie though.

Why? Do you have Communist leanings? Bernie IS a Communist.

No, he's not. Wikipedia gets it right:
**
Often considered one of the most popular politicians in America, Sanders self-identifies as a democratic socialist and has been credited with influencing a leftward shift in the Democratic Party since his 2016 presidential campaign. An advocate of social democratic and progressive policies, he is known for his opposition to economic inequality and neoliberalism. On domestic policy, he supports labor rights, universal and single-payer healthcare, paid parental leave, tuition-free tertiary education, and an ambitious Green New Deal to create jobs addressing climate change. On foreign policy, he supports reducing military spending, pursuing more diplomacy and international cooperation, and putting greater emphasis on labor rights and environmental concerns when negotiating international trade agreements. Sanders supports workplace democracy, and has praised elements of the Nordic model. Some commentators have described his politics as aligned with the New Deal policies of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and left-wing populism.
**

Source:

Bernie Sanders - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A Rose is a Rose is a rose. You sat tomatos ,I say Tomahtoes. And Bernie is a Red. If it quacks ,I assume it is a duck

I think it's sad that you don't know the difference between democratic socialism and communism. But hey, if you ever want to learn...

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[San Souci]

I agree with you on Fauci, at least in the sense that he's saying things that aren't true. However, if I'd been American, I would have voted for Biden. I wanted Bernie, but it's hard to be worse than Trump in my view. Granted, Biden is still pretty bad, but Trump was in a league of his own in my view.

Who cares? Trump was far better than the Fairy YOU have.

I came to this forum to try to avoid these types of attacks, but at least you're not insulting me personally, so that's good at least . I definitely have my differences with Trudeau, but I'd take him over Trump in a heartbeat. Or Biden. I would prefer Bernie though.

Why? Do you have Communist leanings? Bernie IS a Communist.

No, he's not. Wikipedia gets it right:
**
Often considered one of the most popular politicians in America, Sanders self-identifies as a democratic socialist and has been credited with influencing a leftward shift in the Democratic Party since his 2016 presidential campaign. An advocate of social democratic and progressive policies, he is known for his opposition to economic inequality and neoliberalism. On domestic policy, he supports labor rights, universal and single-payer healthcare, paid parental leave, tuition-free tertiary education, and an ambitious Green New Deal to create jobs addressing climate change. On foreign policy, he supports reducing military spending, pursuing more diplomacy and international cooperation, and putting greater emphasis on labor rights and environmental concerns when negotiating international trade agreements. Sanders supports workplace democracy, and has praised elements of the Nordic model. Some commentators have described his politics as aligned with the New Deal policies of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and left-wing populism.
**

Source:

Bernie Sanders - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A Rose is a Rose is a rose. You sat tomatos ,I say Tomahtoes. And Bernie is a Red. If it quacks ,I assume it is a duck

I think it's sad that you don't know the difference between democratic socialism and communism. But hey, if you ever want to learn...

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Doesn't matter. A Red is a Red. Smashing Capitalism ,redistributing wealth by Gov't Edict , encouraging Unions when they no longer serve a useful purpose, and condemning wealth when one IS wealthy? That is what Reds do. I don't like "Intellectuals". They fuck up everything. Sobell was one. So were the Rosenbergs. So was Alger Hiss. All "intellectuals" are Reds. And THEY infiltrate our Education system. That is where the plague begins. But enough of that. ---Humans are INDIVIDUALS. Collective crap is NOT Human Nature.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I agree with you on Fauci, at least in the sense that he's saying things that aren't true. However, if I'd been American, I would have voted for Biden. I wanted Bernie, but it's hard to be worse than Trump in my view. Granted, Biden is still pretty bad, but Trump was in a league of his own in my view.

Who cares? Trump was far better than the Fairy YOU have.

I came to this forum to try to avoid these types of attacks, but at least you're not insulting me personally, so that's good at least . I definitely have my differences with Trudeau, but I'd take him over Trump in a heartbeat. Or Biden. I would prefer Bernie though.

Why? Do you have Communist leanings? Bernie IS a Communist.

No, he's not. Wikipedia gets it right:
**
Often considered one of the most popular politicians in America, Sanders self-identifies as a democratic socialist and has been credited with influencing a leftward shift in the Democratic Party since his 2016 presidential campaign. An advocate of social democratic and progressive policies, he is known for his opposition to economic inequality and neoliberalism. On domestic policy, he supports labor rights, universal and single-payer healthcare, paid parental leave, tuition-free tertiary education, and an ambitious Green New Deal to create jobs addressing climate change. On foreign policy, he supports reducing military spending, pursuing more diplomacy and international cooperation, and putting greater emphasis on labor rights and environmental concerns when negotiating international trade agreements. Sanders supports workplace democracy, and has praised elements of the Nordic model. Some commentators have described his politics as aligned with the New Deal policies of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and left-wing populism.
**

Source:

Bernie Sanders - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A Rose is a Rose is a rose. You sat tomatos ,I say Tomahtoes. And Bernie is a Red. If it quacks ,I assume it is a duck

I think it's sad that you don't know the difference between democratic socialism and communism. But hey, if you ever want to learn...

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Doesn't matter. A Red is a Red. Smashing Capitalism ,redistributing wealth by Gov't Edict , encouraging Unions when they no longer serve a useful purpose, and condemning wealth when one IS wealthy? That is what Reds do. I don't like "Intellectuals". They fuck up everything. Sobell was one. So were the Rosenbergs. So was Alger Hiss. All "intellectuals" are Reds. And THEY infiltrate our Education system. That is where the plague begins. But enough of that. ---Humans are INDIVIDUALS. Collective crap is NOT Human Nature.

I could have sworn this thread was about the public's opinion of Fauci

 

[San Souci]

I agree with you on Fauci, at least in the sense that he's saying things that aren't true. However, if I'd been American, I would have voted for Biden. I wanted Bernie, but it's hard to be worse than Trump in my view. Granted, Biden is still pretty bad, but Trump was in a league of his own in my view.

Who cares? Trump was far better than the Fairy YOU have.

I came to this forum to try to avoid these types of attacks, but at least you're not insulting me personally, so that's good at least . I definitely have my differences with Trudeau, but I'd take him over Trump in a heartbeat. Or Biden. I would prefer Bernie though.

Why? Do you have Communist leanings? Bernie IS a Communist.

No, he's not. Wikipedia gets it right:
**
Often considered one of the most popular politicians in America, Sanders self-identifies as a democratic socialist and has been credited with influencing a leftward shift in the Democratic Party since his 2016 presidential campaign. An advocate of social democratic and progressive policies, he is known for his opposition to economic inequality and neoliberalism. On domestic policy, he supports labor rights, universal and single-payer healthcare, paid parental leave, tuition-free tertiary education, and an ambitious Green New Deal to create jobs addressing climate change. On foreign policy, he supports reducing military spending, pursuing more diplomacy and international cooperation, and putting greater emphasis on labor rights and environmental concerns when negotiating international trade agreements. Sanders supports workplace democracy, and has praised elements of the Nordic model. Some commentators have described his politics as aligned with the New Deal policies of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and left-wing populism.
**

Source:

Bernie Sanders - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A Rose is a Rose is a rose. You sat tomatos ,I say Tomahtoes. And Bernie is a Red. If it quacks ,I assume it is a duck

I think it's sad that you don't know the difference between democratic socialism and communism. But hey, if you ever want to learn...

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

One more thing. Our Constitution's MAIN purpose was to protect the INDIVIDUAL from an oppressive Gov't.

 

[San Souci]

I agree with you on Fauci, at least in the sense that he's saying things that aren't true. However, if I'd been American, I would have voted for Biden. I wanted Bernie, but it's hard to be worse than Trump in my view. Granted, Biden is still pretty bad, but Trump was in a league of his own in my view.

Who cares? Trump was far better than the Fairy YOU have.

I came to this forum to try to avoid these types of attacks, but at least you're not insulting me personally, so that's good at least . I definitely have my differences with Trudeau, but I'd take him over Trump in a heartbeat. Or Biden. I would prefer Bernie though.

Why? Do you have Communist leanings? Bernie IS a Communist.

No, he's not. Wikipedia gets it right:
**
Often considered one of the most popular politicians in America, Sanders self-identifies as a democratic socialist and has been credited with influencing a leftward shift in the Democratic Party since his 2016 presidential campaign. An advocate of social democratic and progressive policies, he is known for his opposition to economic inequality and neoliberalism. On domestic policy, he supports labor rights, universal and single-payer healthcare, paid parental leave, tuition-free tertiary education, and an ambitious Green New Deal to create jobs addressing climate change. On foreign policy, he supports reducing military spending, pursuing more diplomacy and international cooperation, and putting greater emphasis on labor rights and environmental concerns when negotiating international trade agreements. Sanders supports workplace democracy, and has praised elements of the Nordic model. Some commentators have described his politics as aligned with the New Deal policies of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and left-wing populism.
**

Source:

Bernie Sanders - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A Rose is a Rose is a rose. You sat tomatos ,I say Tomahtoes. And Bernie is a Red. If it quacks ,I assume it is a duck

I think it's sad that you don't know the difference between democratic socialism and communism. But hey, if you ever want to learn...

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Doesn't matter. A Red is a Red. Smashing Capitalism ,redistributing wealth by Gov't Edict , encouraging Unions when they no longer serve a useful purpose, and condemning wealth when one IS wealthy? That is what Reds do. I don't like "Intellectuals". They fuck up everything. Sobell was one. So were the Rosenbergs. So was Alger Hiss. All "intellectuals" are Reds. And THEY infiltrate our Education system. That is where the plague begins. But enough of that. ---Humans are INDIVIDUALS. Collective crap is NOT Human Nature.

I could have sworn this thread was about the public's opinion of Fauci

Yes. Fauci is STILL a quack. But he is a symptom of a much greater threat. Me and Phoenyx got a bit off track.

 

[DudleySmith]

I don't know a single person who has even listened to that guy, yet on the innernetz every whack job and shill talks like he was some big deal and the world hung on his every word. Grow up, get a life, and quit the booze and dope.

 

[San Souci]

I don't know a single person who has even listened to that guy, yet on the innernetz every whack job and shill talks like he was some big deal and the world hung on his every word. Grow up, get a life, and quit the booze and dope.

Funny. Fauci and the other Quacks couldn't get a handle on this. I had some Medic training in the USAF. That was way back in 1969-73. Yet I knew all about this last MAY. Very old people ,diabetics ,people on Chemo ,and those with compromised immune systems were dying. There is no WAY the country should have shut down. And there is no reason for MASKS now. Not even those groups I mentioned. I caught 4 COLDS last year despite Mask wearing ,hand washing ,and social distancing. If a COLD virus can get through a Mask ,so can COVID. Fauci and the rest of the "Experts" are LYING. I have no idea why ,but I could tender a few guesses.

 

[phoenyx]

I could have sworn this thread was about the public's opinion of Fauci

Yeah, sorry about that, he just got my goat by not knowing the difference between Democratic Socialism and Communism.

 

[phoenyx]

I could have sworn this thread was about the public's opinion of Fauci

Yes. Fauci is STILL a quack. But he is a symptom of a much greater threat. Me and Phoenyx got a bit off track.

Yes, that we did .

 

[San Souci]

I could have sworn this thread was about the public's opinion of Fauci

Yes. Fauci is STILL a quack. But he is a symptom of a much greater threat. Me and Phoenyx got a bit off track.

Yes, that we did .

See # 28. I gave a long OP about Fauci and the other "Experts".

 

[phoenyx]

I could have sworn this thread was about the public's opinion of Fauci

Yes. Fauci is STILL a quack. But he is a symptom of a much greater threat. Me and Phoenyx got a bit off track.

Yes, that we did .

See # 28. I gave a long OP about Fauci and the other "Experts".

I liked

 

[Mac1958]

32%. Yes. TrumpWorld. Misguided, paranoid, ignorant.
Sounds about right.

Fauchi is a Quack. Anyone who voted Biden is a traitor.

And there ya go.

 

[Mac1958]

32%. Yes. TrumpWorld. Misguided, paranoid, ignorant. Sounds about right.

I'm not going to opine as to whose interests Fauci is looking out for, but I will say that I don't have anywhere near the amount of faith in him now that I had a year ago.

Medical science is complicated. Novel viruses are complicated. Science ain't perfect, nor does it EVER claim to be. The best scientists in the world are fighting this thing and often losing. Fauci is merely the focus here because he dared to disagree with a ignorant, damaged, orange buffoon.

I'll trust medical science. I know they're doing their best. I know they're going to make mistakes. The other option -- arrogant ignorance -- is so grotesque and vulgar that it is an insult.

 

[DudleySmith]

I don't know a single person who has even listened to that guy, yet on the innernetz every whack job and shill talks like he was some big deal and the world hung on his every word. Grow up, get a life, and quit the booze and dope.

Funny. Fauci and the other Quacks couldn't get a handle on this. I had some Medic training in the USAF. That was way back in 1969-73. Yet I knew all about this last MAY. Very old people ,diabetics ,people on Chemo ,and those with compromised immune systems were dying. There is no WAY the country should have shut down. And there is no reason for MASKS now. Not even those groups I mentioned. I caught 4 COLDS last year despite Mask wearing ,hand washing ,and social distancing. If a COLD virus can get through a Mask ,so can COVID. Fauci and the rest of the "Experts" are LYING. I have no idea why ,but I could tender a few guesses.

You must be Special. Everybody I know followed the guidelines, got the vaccine, and they've caught nothing, and are all doing just fine. Well, except that I died after my second shot Wednesday, like all the conspiritards said I would, but other than that I feel the same as if I were still alive.

 

[phoenyx]

32%. Yes. TrumpWorld. Misguided, paranoid, ignorant. Sounds about right.

I'm not going to opine as to whose interests Fauci is looking out for, but I will say that I don't have anywhere near the amount of faith in him now that I had a year ago.

Medical science is complicated. Novel viruses are complicated. Science ain't perfect, nor does it EVER claim to be. The best scientists in the world are fighting this thing and often losing. Fauci is merely the focus here because he dared to disagree with a ignorant, damaged, orange buffoon.

I'll trust medical science. I know they're doing their best. I know they're going to make mistakes. The other option -- arrogant ignorance -- is so grotesque and vulgar that it is an insult.

Personally, I think the -reason- the best scientists in the world are losing is because they're being ignored:

Thousands of the world’s top scientists are finally speaking out against lockdowns. Let’s pray it’s not too little, too late

More than 7,000 top scientists and doctors have signed a declaration calling for politicians to reconsider their entire approach to Covid, and to adopt a herd immunity strategy. Why didn’t this happen seven months ago?

www.rt.com

 

[phoenyx]

I don't know a single person who has even listened to that guy, yet on the innernetz every whack job and shill talks like he was some big deal and the world hung on his every word. Grow up, get a life, and quit the booze and dope.

Funny. Fauci and the other Quacks couldn't get a handle on this. I had some Medic training in the USAF. That was way back in 1969-73. Yet I knew all about this last MAY. Very old people ,diabetics ,people on Chemo ,and those with compromised immune systems were dying. There is no WAY the country should have shut down. And there is no reason for MASKS now. Not even those groups I mentioned. I caught 4 COLDS last year despite Mask wearing ,hand washing ,and social distancing. If a COLD virus can get through a Mask ,so can COVID. Fauci and the rest of the "Experts" are LYING. I have no idea why ,but I could tender a few guesses.

You must be Special. Everybody I know followed the guidelines, got the vaccine, and they've caught nothing, and are all doing just fine.

Lucky you. Many others are not so lucky:

Number of COVID Vaccine Injuries Reported to VAERS Surpasses 50,000, CDC Data Show

Found this article on RFK Jr.'s childrenshealthdefense.org site a bit ago, thought it would be good to share. Constructive feedback welcome: ** 04/02/21 VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries...

www.usmessageboard.com

Some more sad news:
**

• As of March 26, 341 pregnant women had reported adverse events related to COVID vaccines, including 104 reports of miscarriage or premature birth.
• Of the 578 cases of Bell’s Palsy reported, 63% of cases were reported after Pfizer-BioNTech vaccinations — almost twice as many as reported (36%) following vaccination with the Moderna vaccine. Seven cases of Bell’s Palsy were reported with Johnson & Johnson (J&J) vaccine (1%).
• There were 2,578 reports of anaphylaxis, with 53% of cases attributed to the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, 44% to Moderna and 3% to J&J vaccine, which was rolled out in the U.S. on March 2.
• Using a broadened search for any reference to anaphylaxis in chart notes resulted in 15,193 reports, with 52% of cases attributed to Pfizer’s COVID vaccine, 45% to Moderna and 3% to J&J. With each vaccine, nearly 42% of anaphylactic reports occurred in people aged 17-44.

**
Source:

Number of COVID Vaccine Injuries Reported to VAERS Surpasses 50,000, CDC Data Show

VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021.

childrenshealthdefense.org

 

[DudleySmith]

I don't know a single person who has even listened to that guy, yet on the innernetz every whack job and shill talks like he was some big deal and the world hung on his every word. Grow up, get a life, and quit the booze and dope.

Funny. Fauci and the other Quacks couldn't get a handle on this. I had some Medic training in the USAF. That was way back in 1969-73. Yet I knew all about this last MAY. Very old people ,diabetics ,people on Chemo ,and those with compromised immune systems were dying. There is no WAY the country should have shut down. And there is no reason for MASKS now. Not even those groups I mentioned. I caught 4 COLDS last year despite Mask wearing ,hand washing ,and social distancing. If a COLD virus can get through a Mask ,so can COVID. Fauci and the rest of the "Experts" are LYING. I have no idea why ,but I could tender a few guesses.

You must be Special. Everybody I know followed the guidelines, got the vaccine, and they've caught nothing, and are all doing just fine.

Lucky you. Many others are not so lucky:

Number of COVID Vaccine Injuries Reported to VAERS Surpasses 50,000, CDC Data Show

Found this article on RFK Jr.'s childrenshealthdefense.org site a bit ago, thought it would be good to share. Constructive feedback welcome: ** 04/02/21 VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries...

www.usmessageboard.com

Some more sad news:
**

• As of March 26, 341 pregnant women had reported adverse events related to COVID vaccines, including 104 reports of miscarriage or premature birth.
• Of the 578 cases of Bell’s Palsy reported, 63% of cases were reported after Pfizer-BioNTech vaccinations — almost twice as many as reported (36%) following vaccination with the Moderna vaccine. Seven cases of Bell’s Palsy were reported with Johnson & Johnson (J&J) vaccine (1%).
• There were 2,578 reports of anaphylaxis, with 53% of cases attributed to the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, 44% to Moderna and 3% to J&J vaccine, which was rolled out in the U.S. on March 2.
• Using a broadened search for any reference to anaphylaxis in chart notes resulted in 15,193 reports, with 52% of cases attributed to Pfizer’s COVID vaccine, 45% to Moderna and 3% to J&J. With each vaccine, nearly 42% of anaphylactic reports occurred in people aged 17-44.

**
Source:

Number of COVID Vaccine Injuries Reported to VAERS Surpasses 50,000, CDC Data Show

VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021.

childrenshealthdefense.org

Too bad you have to spam us with tard sites instead of real data from credible sources; then you might not get laughed at by sane people. And besides, I've already admitted several times that I was killed by the vaccine, just like you and the other tards said I would if I got vaccinated.

 

[phoenyx]

Too bad you have to spam us with [insult removed] sites instead of real data from credible sources

I -really- wish you'd stop laying down so many insults. This is the Clean Debate Zone, after all, show some respect. Anyway, you saying you don't find VAERS to be a credible source?

 

[San Souci]

Too bad you have to spam us with [insult removed] sites instead of real data from credible sources

I -really- wish you'd stop laying down so many insults. This is the Clean Debate Zone, after all, show some respect. Anyway, you saying you don't find VAERS to be a credible source?

The only "Source" I find credible is FOX. And them only about 30% of the time.