Zelenskyy, With EU Support, Continues Looking for Any Excuse to Derail or Avoid Peace Talks

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yep. And the war will continue until we achive mutually (both for the USA and Russia) acceptable peace. The peace of equal rights and equal safety.

Just obey the law in Ukraine and you have it.

 

[wtb]

Let the EU fund Europe's war.

I think that's best. I think by continuing with the kind of support we've been providing for years, we're just stringing it along. Had we provided the kind of Ukraine support needed for a shock and awe type response in the very beginning, the situation may have turned out differently.

But the way it is, Z just feels entitled to everyone being willing to keep this going and it will go on for many more years - without any possible victory for Ukraine. It's time for us to step out of the way and let Z and Europe decide where to take it from here.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It's up to the EU.

 

[Ringo]

Just obey the law in Ukraine and you have it.

Moron, according to you overthrowing a legitimate democratic government through a nazi coup is the “Law of Ukraine”?
Well, for the moment, you're right. It is the law of nazi Ukraine.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The oblasts were a fascist attempt to secede from Ukraine.

No!

 

[Ringo]

Nuland picking Ukraine's new Govt before the 2014 coup
CNN showing Ukraine bombing their Russian speaking citizens in Donetsk
Ukraine, French, and German leaders saying Minsk Agreement was a scam to stall and arm Ukraine
Graham encouraging Ukraine to fight Russia in 2016
A document proving Russia was promised NATO wouldn't move East
U.S. Congress voting on continuing to arm Nazis in Ukraine
Boris Johnson admitting this is a proxy war, and Graham saying it's about money.

After proving all these things, the West just calls it Russian propaganda and people believe them...

 

[Zavulon]

Just obey the law in Ukraine and you have it.

It depends on what is that law. People have right and even duty to fight against abusive, discriminative and genocidal government. No offence, but Russians are not Indians to passionately rim the shiters of European invaders.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The decisions were made, and the majority of the oblasts wanted to stay with Ukraine. The dissidents should have been put on trains to Russia.

 

[Moonglow]

"Zelenskyy, With EU Support, Continues Looking for Any Excuse to Derail or Avoid Peace Talks – Rejects Mineral Deal, Demands EU Ascension and Security Guarantees


March 30, 2025 | Sundance |


The dynamic is obvious to any intellectually honest observer, which is to say U.S. and Western media disqualify themselves and continue pushing preferred EU narratives.
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky has rejected the latest U.S. proposal for a minerals deal that would create a partnership to repay the United States for ongoing financial support. According to Zelenskyy, the deal to share in oil, gas and mineral revenue would amount to debt that would disqualify them from EU membership due to unstable financials.


However, it is important for U.S. readers to remember the U.S. aid package already underway pays for the entire operation of the Ukraine federal spending liabilities, including pensions, government worker paychecks and everything normally within a govt budget. U.S. taxpayers are not only subsidizing the war with munitions, but we are also subsidizing the government operation and citizens of Ukraine. Within that spending there is MASSIVE corruption ongoing."

Zelenskyy, With EU Support, Continues Looking for Any Excuse to Derail or Avoid Peace Talks - Rejects Mineral Deal, Demands EU Ascension and Security Guarantees - The Last Refuge

The dynamic is obvious to any intellectually honest observer, which is to say U.S. and Western media disqualify themselves and continue pushing preferred EU narratives. Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky has rejected the latest U.S. proposal for a minerals deal that would create a partnership...

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Trump is going to have to take Z Man to the woodshed. Let the EU pay for all of this.

Yer love of the Ruskies is sickening to freedom-loving Americans.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

How can any American, let alone a Republican, support Putin?

 

[Ringo]

Yer love of the Ruskies is sickening to freedom-loving Americans.

Are you one of those people who defines freedom by being able to f*ck another man in the ass?

 

[Ringo]

How can any American, let alone a Republican, support Putin?

One with the brain, silly.

 

[Moonglow]

Are you one of those people who defines freedom by being able to f*ck another man in the ass?

Do you need freedom to do that? I think not.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Are you one of those people who defines freedom by being able to f*ck another man in the ass?

You Russian arse-bandits are something else?

 

[Ringo]

The decisions were made, and the majority of the oblasts wanted to stay with Ukraine. The dissidents should have been put on trains to Russia.

The same US who lost it over Russa putting missiles in Cuba and attacked Iraq over WMDs that didn't exist, has spent years pushing NATO to Russia's border.
Imagine the US, if Russia and China formed a military alliance with Canada and Mexico and armed them.
I guarantee you they wouldn't be saying that Mexico and Canada are sovereign countries, that can do what they want, and it wouldn't take them decades before they finally say "Enough is Enough" and start bombing them.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The same US who lost it over Russa putting missiles in Cuba and attacked Iraq over WMDs that didn't exist, has spent years pushing NATO to Russia's border.
Imagine the US, if Russia and China formed a military alliance with Canada and Mexico and armed them.
I guarantee you they wouldn't be saying that Mexico and Canada are sovereign countries, that can do what they want, and it wouldn't take them decades before they finally say "Enough is Enough" and start bombing them.

Fallacies of false equivalency.

Nukes were removed from Ukraine.

Pro-Russians were in a very small minority.

 

[Ringo]

Pro-Russians were in a very small minority.

An idiotic lie. And I can tell because I lived half of my life in Ukraine. My father, grandfather and great-grandfather lived there. I know what I'm talking about. You asshole, you don't.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

An idiotic lie. And I can tell because I lived half of my life in Ukraine. My father, grandfather and great-grandfather lived there. I know what I'm talking about. You asshole, you don't.

Why are you lying. You said you were a Russian all your life.

 

[Ringo]

Why are you lying. You said you were a Russian all your life.

And you told that you Dine'... So what are you doing in US?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

And you told that you Dine'... So what are you doing in US?

The rez is in the US.