Zelenski Says Trump Can't Make Him Negotiate With Russia....Practically Admitting He's Not Trying To End It

I trust Trump more than any other BUT there is a bloke called Putin who wants Russian domination. My own view is that the whole of Ukraine should be Iron Domed with Europe coughing up the $ to pay for it. You got any better ideas other than let Putin win?

Greg
Just as America forced the Japanese to surrender with two bombs, what's to make us think that Russia won't resort to the same thing if it gets in trouble with losing it's war in Ukraine ? No amount of small arms technology can stand against a nuclear strike. Negotiations and diplomacy is the only way forward.
 
Zelensky constantly has to beg for money and weapons.

He's a surrogate. He's not even close to being an independent.
He is fighting RUSSIA!! Frankly I'd be begging too in his position. But is it begging to want The West to keep it's word??
"In 1994, Ukraine agreed to transfer these weapons to Russia and became a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, in exchange for assurances from Russia, the United States and United Kingdom to respect the Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders."

From wiki.

We know Russia's word isn't worth shit; you saying neither is America's ?

Greg
 
Congratulations; WAR IN OUR TIME!!

We KNOW Biden stuffed it up from Day 1 and it's a Europe thing, but appease is a losing strategy. By all means the US should be paid for the weaponry by Europe BUT it is a FACT that the West has guaranteed UIkraine's freedom after the Ukes gave up their nukes (rightly so). So if America's word isn't worth a pinch of shit then it may as well be DemoKKKrat!!

Greg
Not appeasement, just reality. How long do you think Russia will go on losing before resorting to it's nukes to solve it's so called problem ?
 
America says that the Ukraine is winning the war and so where's the problem?

It's like not as if America and combined Nato forces are losing the war to Russia!

Next, the Russians try to have us believe there are no Ukrainians left to shoot the guns and drop the bombs??

Peace talks now! While the Ukraine still has a position of power from which to negotiate their demands!
 
He is fighting RUSSIA!! Frankly I'd be begging too in his position. But is it begging to want The West to keep it's word??
"In 1994, Ukraine agreed to transfer these weapons to Russia and became a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, in exchange for assurances from Russia, the United States and United Kingdom to respect the Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders."

From wiki.

We know Russia's word isn't worth shit; you saying neither is America's ?

Greg
Did Ukraine keeps it's word since the deal ? How has Ukraine changed since the deal, and what influences has caused destabilization and fear in the region in which ultimately placed the two on a collision course ??
 
Just as America forced the Japanese to surrender with two bombs, what's to make us think that Russia won't resort to the same thing if it gets in trouble with losing it's war in Ukraine ? No amount of small arms technology can stand against a nuclear strike. Negotiations and diplomacy is the only way forward.
Yes; I agree, but you do realise that the US and Europe have guaranteed Uke sovereignty? Now we find out whether America's word is worth anything. I think it IS despite Biden's disgusting handling of it. I suggest that Trump will be the key, and Zelensky has said as much with his BBC reported comments.

Is there a very good chance that this will explode into WW3??

I don't want to answer that question.

Greg
 
America says that the Ukraine is winning the war and so where's the problem?

It's like not as if America and combined Nato forces are losing the war to Russia!

Next, the Russians try to have us believe there are no Ukrainians left to shoot the guns and drop the bombs??

Peace talks now! While the Ukraine still has a position of power from which to negotiate their demands!
Where trying to avoid world War 3 by de-escalating the situation instead of escalating the situation further.
 
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Zelenskyy in Ukraine Radio interview: "The US cannot force us to sit and listen at the negotiating table. We are an independent country,”

This is an admission that the has no intention of ending the war for his own reasons, be it financial or otherwise.


Hell, I'm glad to hear they are so independent!

That's going to save us a lot of money and weapons in the next four years.

How dare the Democrats force the independent minded Zelensky to accept arms, equipment, money and training.

 
Where trying to avoid world War 3 by de-escalating the situation instead of escalating the situation further.
That work for me, but does it work for Zelensky now that the Ukraine has won the war?

Trump is trying to give Russia half of the Ukraine and Zelensky is getting pissed off at America over it.

He's saying that he doesn't need America's fkn weapons!
 
Yes; I agree, but you do realise that the US and Europe have guaranteed Uke sovereignty? Now we find out whether America's word is worth anything. I think it IS despite Biden's disgusting handling of it. I suggest that Trump will be the key, and Zelensky has said as much with his BBC reported comments.

Is there a very good chance that this will explode into WW3??

I don't want to answer that question.

Greg
How in the hell can we guarantee Ukraine sovereignty in that region, and do so without that type of thing (in and of itself), basically sending a statement to Russia that we will assist the territory of Ukraine in it's defenses against Russia, and do so regardless of the diplomatic solutions that are available ? Did Biden exhaust all diplomatic solutions possible by including Russia in the talks that were needed ? We know the answer to that one, and so here we are in a nasty situation with a nuclear super power because of it all. We need not continue down the rabbit hole, and it's time for diplomatic solution's to take precedence over weapons and cash.
 
Not appeasement, just reality. How long do you think Russia will go on losing before resorting to it's nukes to solve it's so called problem ?
I don't know how long, but if Putin resorts to that then what?

I AM saying that Trump will handle the situation in Ukraine much better than idiot Biden!!

Greg
 
That work for me, but does it work for Zelensky now that the Ukraine has won the war?

Trump is trying to give Russia half of the Ukraine and Zelensky is getting pissed off at America over it.

He's saying that he doesn't need America's fkn weapons!
You making unsubstantiated claims destroys your credibility here.
 
I don't know how long, but if Putin resorts to that then what?

I AM saying that Trump will handle the situation in Ukraine much better than idiot Biden!!

Greg
We can only hope.
 
Did Ukraine keeps it's word since the deal ? How has Ukraine changed since the deal, and what influences has caused destabilization and fear in the region in which ultimately placed the two on a collision course ??
The simple answer is Russia got the Nukes and so yes; they did.

Greg
 
How many movies have we seen in which a nuclear holocaust was started over some border dispute in a country that most Americans rarely, if ever, thought about? Probably every post-apocolyptic movie except the Terminator series.

Don't like movies? How many world wars have we seen due to interlocking treaties and mutual defense agreements? Two.

How many on this board believe that - as in WWII - the U.S. could end the next world war by dropping two nukes and having the enemy surrender?
 
More like he will find himself out of a job.
Biden didn't care. At all. He would have given Zelensky money to eternity and kept the war going forever. Care less.
Trump is different. Very different. He wants to end the war. And Putin can sit and talk with Trump. He refused to talk to Biden because, his words, he didn't consider him a real President.
To which, he was right.
Putin just humiliated Trump on Russian TV.
 
The simple answer is Russia got the Nukes and so yes; they did.

Greg
True, but in the year's that followed, what has happened that put these two into a situation of mistrust and fear of one another ?
 
How in the hell can we guarantee Ukraine sovereignty in that region, and do so without that type of thing (in and of itself), basically sending a statement to Russia that we will assist the territory of Ukraine in it's defenses against Russia, and do so regardless of the diplomatic solutions that are available ? Did Biden exhaust all diplomatic solutions possible by including Russia in the talks that were needed ? We know the answer to that one, and so here we are in a nasty situation with a nuclear super power because of it all. We need not continue down the rabbit hole, and it's time for diplomatic solution's to take precedence over weapons and cash.
The point is the US did. Clinton and Europe signed on the dotted line. The Nukes went to Russia.

Greg
 
How in the hell can we guarantee Ukraine sovereignty in that region, and do so without that type of thing (in and of itself), basically sending a statement to Russia that we will assist the territory of Ukraine in it's defenses against Russia, and do so regardless of the diplomatic solutions that are available ? Did Biden exhaust all diplomatic solutions possible by including Russia in the talks that were needed ? We know the answer to that one, and so here we are in a nasty situation with a nuclear super power because of it all. We need not continue down the rabbit hole, and it's time for diplomatic solution's to take precedence over weapons and cash.
Why shouldn't America protect the Ukraine from foreign aggression when Russia and China are protecting Iran from the same?

It's not as if Russia and China helped Afghanistan to win the war!
 
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