Zelenski Says Trump Can't Make Him Negotiate With Russia....Practically Admitting He's Not Trying To End It

[Zavulon]

Stop puffing up your cheeks, Cat. The Yankees dragged you stupid Vankas into a war where your shithole country loses people, money, recourses etc in exchange for rubbles of former villages and towns.

We shall rebuild our cities and towns. We have saved and liberated much more lives than lost. And money ... You know, this little lesson is going to save us much more money in future.

 

[ESay]

We shall rebuild our cities and towns. We have saved and liberated much more lives than lost. And money ... You know, this little lesson is going to save us much more money in future.

There is a good Ukrainian saying: Kazav slipuy - pobachymo (A blind has said - we'll see). I doubt you are able to learn any lesson. This ability is absent in you as a class.

 

[GLASNOST]

He is a man, who's paying his taxes to turn your Ukraine into another Vietnam/Afghanistan. He's getting his portion of adrenaline watching you dying, Biden/Trump are getting a part of those money, Zelenskiy is getting his money and chance to escape from Ukraine in the last moment. Russians are getting new lands and the new loyal population. It is win-win-win situation. Short of little stupid Ukrainians. But you know what is the most expansive thing in the world and now you are going to pay.

Bozhe moy!

 

[Zavulon]

There is a good Ukrainian saying: Kazav slipuy - pobachymo (A blind has said - we'll see). I doubt you are able to learn any lesson. This ability is absent in you as a class.

I don't say that we learnt the lesson. I hope, our dear western parthners are going to learn something about proper behaviour and won't try to steal our property and kill our people once more. May be, it will be necessary to burn down London to make this lesson more impressive, but, who knows, may be they are smart enough to pay a fine.

 

[GLASNOST]

I don't say that we learnt the lesson. I hope, our dear western parthners are going to learn something about proper behaviour and won't try to steal our property and kill our people once more. May be, it will be necessary to burn down London to make this lesson more impressive, but, who knows, may be they are smart enough to pay a fine.

Maybe.

 

[beagle9]

Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc. were all pretty much almost reduced to a bomb crater or a home for the occupying force. The Ukrainians are willing to tolerate the damage as long as they get to reciprocate. Russia is slowly going down the rabbit hole and cannot support the economic cost. In the end, like Vietnam and Afghanistan, Ukraine just has to bide it's time.

At the start of the war, these same things were being said about Russia, and here we are two year's later and Russia is still a power house to be reckoned with. So who's lying or spreading propaganda ?

 

[ESay]

I don't say that we learnt the lesson. I hope, our dear western parthners are going to learn something about proper behaviour and won't try to steal our property and kill our people once more. May be, it will be necessary to burn down London to make this lesson more impressive, but, who knows, may be they are smart enough to pay a fine.

Your dear western partners lose nothing in this war. Except of junk hardware from the Cold War era warehouses. It is Ukraine and Russia that on the losing side. Heck, now they don't even spent their money on fueling this, but use your frozen reserves in the West. Open your silly eyes, you weirdo.

 

[Vrenn]

At the start of the war, these same things were being said about Russia, and here we are two year's later and Russia is still a power house to be reckoned with. So who's lying or spreading propaganda ?

Russia may have never been a powerhouse. In order to obtain that title, one must also have a powerhouse of leadership. With all the wonders of the Russia, they can't really do what's needed to elevate to your powerhouse status.

 

[Zavulon]

Your dear western partners lose nothing in this war.

Almost nothing, yet. And, if they are smarter than Ukrainians (and it is not difficult be smarter than a Ukrainian) - they will return our money, pay fines and withdraw NATO forces from Eastern and Northern Europe back to 1997 borders. But if they are even more stupid than Ukrainians (I can't rule it out, coz there are no limits of human stupidity) they will try to make new Ukraine from Baltic states and Poland (or from Moldova and Romania).

Except of junk hardware from the Cold War era warehouses. It is Ukraine and Russia that on the losing side. Heck, now they don't even spent their money on fueling this, but use your frozen reserves in the West. Open your silly eyes, you weirdo.

There is a chance that Russia and the USA will make new deal about safety in Europe and the story of Baltic states, that rejoined with Russia almost volonteerely (at least without actual fighting) after the Winter war. They learnt the lesson - "If Russia ask something - you'd better to agree, coz next peace terms will be worse for you"

 

[ESay]

Almost nothing, yet. And, if they are smarter than Ukrainians (and it is not difficult be smarter than a Ukrainian) - they will return our money, pay fines and withdraw NATO forces from Eastern and Northern Europe back to 1997 borders. But if they are even more stupid than Ukrainians (I can't rule it out, coz there are no limits of human stupidity) they will try to make new Ukraine from Baltic states and Poland (or from Moldova and Romania).


There is a chance that Russia and the USA will make new deal about safety in Europe and the story of Baltic states, that rejoined with Russia almost volonteerely (at least without actual fighting) after the Winter war. They learnt the lesson - "If Russia ask something - you'd better to agree, coz next peace terms will be worse for you"

If someone loses nothing, he has no inclination to make any concessions. A quite simple concept for understanding even for you.

 

[GLASNOST]

..... "If Russia ask something - you'd better to agree, coz next peace terms will be worse for you"

That certainly applies today.

 

[beagle9]

Russia may have never been a powerhouse. In order to obtain that title, one must also have a powerhouse of leadership. With all the wonders of the Russia, they can't really do what's needed to elevate to your powerhouse status.

Agree that leadership is an essential part of it all, and until Russian nukes are no longer an issue in the equation, then "Russia" does remain the powerhouse with a final solution built into the equation.

The trick has been marveled at in this conducting of war without triggering a nuclear response by a nuclear armed nation, otherwise in the event of mass loses occuring for which might bring about such a thing if not careful.

So far so good on no nuclear attack solution being deployed, and this as the whole world becomes numb in the shadow of war's and the rumors of war.

Russia must be visited by great respected leader's who can sit down with Putin and talk peace, and this without weakness in character being shown by the negotiators who are being sent. The war has hardened heart's, and it has sewn great distrust in many ways... It is very critical in gaining back that trust when the negotiations are put into full swing in hopes to gain or give peace a chance.

Leadership's that negotiate for peace, well they must also come with a respected character that is full of self-respect that can be respected by those who are being negotiated with.

Without this very important ingredient, then the war could continue to spiral more and more out of control, and grow more and more into a greater despair as hopelessness among the civilian population's (who are taking the brunt of these man made disasters being created for them), continues..... These are disasters that are created by leadership's for whom have chosen war over peace as being the solution's to a problem. However, war is never the solution if looking back through the more recent history of it all.

Trump has a strength that is found within his character, and that attribute is one that wants to bring about solution's that are born out of respect for others, yet all the while he requires the same respect at the negotiating tables for which is then workable towards solutions. This is why both Putin and Z have high hopes in a resolve immediately after Trump takes office, and more importantly after he takes the control of it from Biden.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[beagle9]

Spending, budgets, war eh ?
Funny how Biden was able to find literally billions upon billions of US dollars to send to Zelensky, but for year's politician's were telling American senior's that the nation is broke, the deficit is blown, there's no jobs coming back to America, Healthcare has no solution's, inflation is transitory, and on and on the scams or the bull chit goes. Now we have this huge distraction being created with the drones, otherwise in an attempt to get Americans eye off of the bouncing government ball again.

What a shame it all is......

Just as Biden and company did, the Russians are just as capable of adjusting to the situation I would imagine also.

Of course we are going to be told different about Ukraine until we're not.

Fighting Aid nations vast resources indirectly, has been a huge set back for Russias special operation, along with it's original intent or goals it had sought after in that theater.. Now the cost to both sides in that war appears to be tremendously high, and it is on going as they both learn how to efficiently kill one another with modern strategies and weaponry upon the battlefields.

 

[JohnDB]

Spending, budgets, war eh ?
Funny how Biden was able to find literally billions upon billions of US dollars to send to Zelensky, but for year's politician's were telling American senior's that the nation is broke, the deficit is blown, there's no jobs coming back to America, Healthcare has no solution's, inflation is transitory, and on and on the scams or the bull chit goes. Now we have this huge distraction being created with the drones, otherwise in an attempt to get Americans eye off of the bouncing government ball again.

What a shame it all is......

Just as Biden and company did, the Russians are just as capable of adjusting to the situation I would imagine also.

Of course we are going to be told different about Ukraine until we're not.

Fighting Aid nations vast resources indirectly, has been a huge set back for Russias special operation, along with it's original intent or goals it had sought after in that theater.. Now the cost to both sides in that war appears to be tremendously high, and it is on going as they both learn how to efficiently kill one another with modern strategies and weaponry upon the battlefields.

The first war was fought with rocks....the last war will also be fought with the same. Of course the horrors in between will be much worse.

There is no winning in war. One side just loses less.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Zavulon]

The first war was fought with rocks....the last war will also be fought with the same. Of course the horrors in between will be much worse.

There is no winning in war. One side just loses less.

Of course there is winning. The side which writes the terms of the post-war peace is a winner. The side which get new territories is a winner. The side which prevent genocide of its people is a winner. The side which protected its freedom is a winner.
It is true for both regional and large-scale wars.

 

[Zavulon]

If someone loses nothing, he has no inclination to make any concessions. A quite simple concept for understanding even for you.

Some non-Ukrainian people have a special ability - they can draw their conclusions from other people's mistakes. We can't rule out the possibility that Americans can draw proper conclusions from the current conflict and accept pretty generous Russian peace offers about the system of equal rights and undivided safety for everyone.
Of course it's just a possibility, and, I don't actually count on it.

 

[ESay]

Some non-Ukrainian people have a special ability - they can draw their conclusions from other people's mistakes. We can't rule out the possibility that Americans can draw proper conclusions from the current conflict and accept pretty generous Russian peace offers about the system of equal rights and undivided safety for everyone.
Of course it's just a possibility, and, I don't actually count on it.

Americans don't need to accept anything from Russia. They are not the ones who mindlessly lose their people and resources on ghost villages and towns. They may not even have a need to lose their money on it, either. Thanks to your grandmasters, they have up to 300 billion of greenbacks of your money to finance a war against you.

 

[Zavulon]

Americans don't need to accept anything from Russia. They are not the ones who mindlessly lose their people and resources on ghost villages and towns. They may not even have a need to lose their money on it, either. Thanks to your grandmasters, they have up to 300 billion of greenbacks of your money to finance a war against you.

Greenbucks are dust and smoke. And, anyway, if there is peace - Europe and USA will pay at least ten dollars for every stolen dollar. And no, seems that Americans (at least some of them) do understand that they could lost millions of their men, women and children in the radioactive ruins of their cities. And there is no some kind of "super-America" who might force them to destroy their whole country just to kill one million of Russians.