Zelenski Says Trump Can't Make Him Negotiate With Russia....Practically Admitting He's Not Trying To End It

[GLASNOST]

... It's much better to sell oil and get something useful ,.... rather then sell oil and keep money in Western banks (where they can be stolen in any moment) ......

Well said!

 

[ESay]

It's good for India, it's good for Russian Vankas (its better to have tanks than not to have them), it's good for Russian industrial production either (coz the Army can buy everything and a bit more). It's much better to sell oil and get something useful, like, say, tanks, rather then sell oil and keep money in Western banks (where they can be stolen in any moment). And you know - Tarasiki are paying for all this.
Vankas are fighting and dying for their people, for the returning of our lands, for the safer future without European and American threat. And Tarasiki are dying just to allow Bidens to steal a bit more money, for the selling Ukrainian land to foreigners, and for making their own daughters prostitutes in the European cities. But if the "national" suicide is really your choice - why not? The only thing that we could and should do - is to minimise our own losses.

Stupid Vankas should have asked their boyars about why these money got to Western banks, in the first turn. And why they weren't in Russian banks and worked for Russia. For example, gasification of Russian areas, or renewingl Russian infrastructure (when a half of Podmoskovje was left without heating last winter).

But you are right. The tanks are more useful. They help to depopulate Russian Vankas. 'Gosdep' approves.

 

[ESay]

Or, from the other point of view, Rosneft put oil from one their pocket (with the Russian flag) to the other their pocket (with the Indian flag), then sell oil and its products to the western (and others) companies, buy (under Indian flag) useful things (like French thermovisors for their tanks) and bring all those things back to Russia (as if Indian government doesn't know what is happening).

Rosneft doesn't own these companies. It has shares in them. They are Indian companies, but yes it gets a certain amount of money from them, as a shareholder.

 

[Shareprofit]

Tell that to Putin a former KGB chief during the Soviet empire(?), otherwise a citizen soldier who has watched his once powerful empire crumble due to western influence over the year's ???
Did he decide "no more" of western influence on the border between Russia and it's surrounding former Soviet state, and this after so much loss over the year's had occurred ?

Question's are plenty....

You mean he's a dictator wanting to preserve his corrupt oligarchy from freedom and democracy. You MAGA Russian apologists are the enemy within.

 

[GLASNOST]

You mean he's a dictator wanting to preserve his corrupt oligarchy from freedom and democracy. You MAGA Russian apologists are the enemy within.

NoKrainium has been the most corrupt country in Europe since the end of the Cold War and here you are defending it.

 

[Zavulon]

Stupid Vankas should have asked their boyars about why these money got to Western banks, in the first turn. And why they weren't in Russian banks and worked for Russia. For example, gasification of Russian areas, or renewingl Russian infrastructure (when a half of Podmoskovje was left without heating last winter).

It's all about risk management. There is no "absolutely safe" way to keep your money or trade. Some people (mostly pro-Western) counted western banks as more or less reliable. Money doesn't "work". People do. And they want for their work American cars, Chinese smartphones, Ecuadorian bananas, Polish apples, Worse Korean yachts and whatever else. And money is a simplest way to get it. Putin invest in infrastructure a lot. Just compare, say, the map of Moscow underground before him, or nowadays. Say nothing about Crimean bridge (or other bridges). And no, it wasn't "half of Podmoscowye" left without heating "last winter". There were few blocks in one town, and the problem was solved in few days.

But you are right. The tanks are more useful. They help to depopulate Russian Vankas. 'Gosdep' approves.

No. Vankas better survive with tanks than without tanks. And Banderlogs die out with much higher speed without western tanks. That's why India/Iran/North Korea are better allies than NATO. America can print green papers, but can't make tanks anymore.

 

[ESay]

It's all about risk management. There is no "absolutely safe" way to keep your money or trade. Some people (mostly pro-Western) counted western banks as more or less reliable. Money doesn't "work". People do. And they want for their work American cars, Chinese smartphones, Ecuadorian bananas, Polish apples, Worse Korean yachts and whatever else. And money is a simplest way to get it. Putin invest in infrastructure a lot. Just compare, say, the map of Moscow underground before him, or nowadays. Say nothing about Crimean bridge (or other bridges). And no, it wasn't "half of Podmoscowye" left without heating "last winter". There were few blocks in one town, and the problem was solved in few days.

No. Vankas better survive with tanks than without tanks. And Banderlogs die out with much higher speed without western tanks. That's why India/Iran/North Korea are better allies than NATO. America can print green papers, but can't make tanks anymore.

Risk management, what the heck. Ending up with your money being used for a war against you. Whatever, Yuri. If you are okay with the things in your madhouse, then way to go.

 

[Zavulon]

Risk management, what the heck. Ending up with your money being used for a war against you.

Money don't kill people per se. They are just papers or even ones and zeros in the bank computers. If America wants more money - they can easily print it. The only problem is, that more they use dollar as weapon - lesser it useful as money (and it's shooting in America's right leg). We lost some ones and zeroes in American bank computers, but we earned a lot of land with natural resources, saved millions of Russian people and killed thousands of Banderlogs. Anyway, if Europe and/or America wants somehow reliable peace - they will return seven their dollars for one stolen.

Whatever, Yuri. If you are okay with the things in your madhouse, then way to go.

You know, Tarasik, Russia is going to become our common house (it's not that I'm really happy about it), so, you'd better to get accustomed to the way we do the things.
'Ere we go!

 

[ESay]

Money don't kill people per se. They are just papers or even ones and zeros in the bank computers. If America wants more money - they can easily print it. The only problem is, that more they use dollar as weapon - lesser it useful as money (and it's shooting in America's right leg). We lost some ones and zeroes in American bank computers, but we earned a lot of land with natural resources, saved millions of Russian people and killed thousands of Banderlogs. Anyway, if Europe and/or America wants somehow reliable peace - they will return seven their dollars for one stolen

Using your this logic, Europe and America owes you nothing. You can add whatever zeroes on your computer you want and deal is done.

You know, Tarasik, Russia is going to become our common house (it's not that I'm really happy about it), so, you'd better to get accustomed to the way we do the things

You maybe won't believe, but I don't really care anymore. I am not even now that much mentally preoccupied with possible ceasefire as before. If the ruling elites from the both sides can find enough idiots to prolong their policies and this stupid war, okay, why to bother? I am responsible only to myself and my family, after all.

It is a shitty house, and it will be that way no matter what. 95% of people wont see any difference. But, don't say 'hop' until you have jumped over the pit, Yurez.

 

[Zavulon]

Using your this logic, Europe and America owes you nothing. You can add whatever zeroes on your computer you want and deal is done.

Basically, yes. The question is that Russian bank system is not that world wide accepted as American. So, if the world and America are interested in the continuing working of dollar system (however it's bad, it is working) they better to pay good fines for those actions.

You maybe won't believe, but I don't really care anymore. I am not even now that much mentally preoccupied with possible ceasefire as before. If the ruling elites from the both sides can find enough idiots to prolong their policies and this stupid war, okay, why to bother? I am responsible only to myself and my family, after all.

And, as a responsible head of the family, did you already prepared the list of local Banderovci?

It is a shitty house, and it will be that way no matter what. 95% of people wont see any difference.

There will be some difference, of course, but yes, not as much as the difference between Democrat and Republican governments in the USA.

But, don't say 'hop' until you have jumped over the pit, Yurez.

Ok.

 

[ESay]

Basically, yes. The question is that Russian bank system is not that world wide accepted as American. So, if the world and America are interested in the continuing working of dollar system (however it's bad, it is working) they better to pay good fines for those actions

The dollar system will exist as long as there isn't any workable and practical alternative to it. As for now, there isn't any viable in sight. That doesn't depend on some silly fines to you.

And, as a responsible head of the family, did you already prepared the list of local Banderovci

Of course not. Why would I want to give away one idiots to another one idiots?

 

[AZrailwhale]

Money don't kill people per se. They are just papers or even ones and zeros in the bank computers. If America wants more money - they can easily print it. The only problem is, that more they use dollar as weapon - lesser it useful as money (and it's shooting in America's right leg). We lost some ones and zeroes in American bank computers, but we earned a lot of land with natural resources, saved millions of Russian people and killed thousands of Banderlogs. Anyway, if Europe and/or America wants somehow reliable peace - they will return seven their dollars for one stolen.


You know, Tarasik, Russia is going to become our common house (it's not that I'm really happy about it), so, you'd better to get accustomed to the way we do the things.
'Ere we go!

Russia is a third world country with a second world military. It is irrelevant to the world's economy. Nigeria has a better economy and GDP than Russia and the State of California's economy dwarfs Russia's. Russia has always had delusions of grandeur and persecution. The only people who buy Russian products are those who can't afford better.

 

[Zavulon]

The dollar system will exist as long as there isn't any workable and practical alternative to it. As for now, there isn't any viable in sight. That doesn't depend on some silly fines to you.

Right now dollar is the best product on the market, indeed. But, say, its inflation (because of uncontrolled emission) makes gold looks better. And, of course, we can't rule out possibility of the elimination of the USA. It may cause inconvenience to other members of the global community, but it will definitely create pressure to establishing the new world wide currency.

Of course not. Why would I want to give away one idiots to another one idiots?

For money, for example. Or for earning new job. Or to not allow other Banderovci to snitch on you first. I'm almost sure, that in filtration camp FSB will ask you some stupid questions, and you should be ready to answer them.

 

[Zavulon]

Russia is a third world country with a second world military. It is irrelevant to the world's economy. Nigeria has a better economy and GDP than Russia and the State of California's economy dwarfs Russia's. Russia has always had delusions of grandeur and persecution. The only people who buy Russian products are those who can't afford better.

I don't think that WWIII (which is almost unavoidable now) will be "irrelevant" for the world's economy. Actually, I believe that its result will determine the post war economical and political posture.

 

[ESay]

Right now dollar is the best product on the market, indeed. But, say, its inflation (because of uncontrolled emission) makes gold looks better. And, of course, we can't rule out possibility of the elimination of the USA. It may cause inconvenience to other members of the global community, but it will definitely create pressure to establishing the new world wide currency

Nothing will last forever in this world.

 

[ESay]

For money, for example. Or for earning new job. Or to not allow other Banderovci to snitch on you first. I'm almost sure, that in filtration camp FSB will ask you some stupid questions, and you should be ready to answer them

Don't say 'hop' until you have jumped over the pit. Remember?

 

[Zavulon]

Don't say 'hop' until you have jumped over the pit. Remember?

Future is coming, and it's better to be prepared for it in advance.

 

[ESay]

Future is coming, and it's better to be prepared for it in advance.

For you it would be moving to Siberia and starting natural agriculture activities there. A no-lose variant.

 

[Zavulon]

For you it would be moving to Siberia and starting natural agriculture activities there. A no-lose variant.

Agriculture in Syberia is pretty gambling variant. First of all, the climate of Syberia is not very good for agriculture, second - we don't know how it will be changed after the war. Who knows for sure, what if "nuclear winter" really happens? I believe that being in system is the safest option.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Agriculture in Syberia is pretty gambling variant. First of all, the climate of Syberia is not very good for agriculture, second - we don't know how it will be changed after the war. Who knows for sure, what if "nuclear winter" really happens? I believe that being in system is the safest option.

If there is a nuclear war, the Russian survivors of all the fallout will starve because all the decent farmland will be irradiated.