“you’re not going to have a war with me as president”

[frigidweirdo]

I think they were run by a hard core islamic dictator like it's the 11th century

So? What does that comment have to do with this conversation?

 

[22lcidw]

Iran is part of the instability and the stability of the Middle East.

The backed the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan, thinking it knew what it was doing. Giving weapons, that ended up being used against the US.

You can interfere, but what happens AFTER you've "mission accomplished" is out of your hands.

You take out Iran, what happens next? Maybe the Saudi then are the power base in the Middle East and they turn away from the US because they don't need the US to take out Iran any more.

The idea is to create wealth and some comforts of life of citizens with some rights. There are many people who will tell people visiting as civilians and military that they want what we have in the United States. I would gladly export your types to 3rd world nations for those who believe in that and would work for their dreams. I think a good percentage of men would welcome tens of millions of our Progressive women exchanged for the same number of overseas women. Those overseas women will not be slaves. They will love family life here and be appreciated more than you will ever know.

 

[buttercup]

Trump said on the campaign trail in 2024 “you’re not going to have a war with me as president”.

Oh, yeah, Trump. And guess what the MAGA did. They CHEERED.

Now Trump goes to war and they are CHEERING.

What won't they cheer at?

Seems like these people are easy to manipulate. Trump can say anything and they will cheer.

But the issue 1) Trump said whatever he wanted in the campaign and it didn't mean anything.

Trump has said this in the past. This means he's just talking nonsense and his supporters cheer even when they don't understand. Or they cheer because it's expected of them.

2) Trump really didn't want war but SOMETHING made him go to war... something like a huge pedophile ring of rich people that Trump was tied up in.

Candidate Trump and president Trump are two different people.

I like Campaign Trump a gazillion times better.

 

[egp320i]

So? What does that comment have to do with this conversation?

because they are radical even in that part of the world and nobody wants that
which is why we and others want them gone

that's the entire point of helping other's get rid of them

our firepower and intelligence, they have boots if they want to use them

 

[Yarddog]

So? What does that comment have to do with this conversation?

because letting someone with that mentality have nukes is beyond dangerous. They refused to NOT pursue nuclear weapons... what part of that do you not understand is a threat to the whole world. Doesnt matter what happened under Carter, reagan, Bush 1 &2 , or Obama... what matters was right now and the threat Iran is.. again... do you not see what it means they are willing to extreminate 30,000 of their own.. and how that shows the threat Iran to the world is?
if you dont see it you might be blinded by your hubris and ego. You think Trump was after oil? well yo uknow what? since Iran has the capability to cut off 80% of the worlds oil... its not a selfish thing to make sure they cant do it. Its about ensuring the security of the entire world.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Candidate Trump and president Trump are two different people.

I like Campaign Trump a gazillion times better.

Of course.

Campaign Trump tells you what you want to hear.

President Trump ignores your completely.

 

[frigidweirdo]

because they are radical even in that part of the world and nobody wants that
which is why we and others want them gone

that's the entire point of helping other's get rid of them

our firepower and intelligence, they have boots if they want to use them

How many radical governments are there in this world?

The Economist Democracy Index - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Afghanistan is the least democratic. The US went to Afghanistan because of 9/11 and because it was on the other side of Iran.

Next up is Myanmar. The US couldn't give a flying fork about Myanmar.

Then North Korea. The US cared about Korea in the 1950s and has somehow cared a bit, but Trump has totally ignored them in his second term.

Then the CAR - The US couldn't give a damn, the US hasn't even had an embassy in the country for 14 years.

Then Syria. The US cared a little, mostly because it was close to Israel and Iraq. Enough for Trump to declare he defeated ISIS, but not enough for Trump to actually defeat ISIS.

Then Sudan, the US doesn't really care about Sudan.

Then Turkmenistan, Loas, Tajikistan, Chad, the DRC, Equatorial Guinea all of which the US doesn't give a damn about.

Then Yemen, which the US cares about enough because it's close to oil shipping routes.

Then Iran.

But obviously the US cares more about Iran than many of the others because of.... OIL

 

[dudmuck]

No, not by congress. POTUS has the power to apply military to a situation under the WPA articles. Obama did it, Bush did it, not a peep from the Democrats but, 'Orange Man Bad did it so Democrats are losing their shit.

 

[frigidweirdo]

because letting someone with that mentality have nukes is beyond dangerous. They refused to NOT pursue nuclear weapons... what part of that do you not understand is a threat to the whole world. Doesnt matter what happened under Carter, reagan, Bush 1 &2 , or Obama... what matters was right now and the threat Iran is.. again... do you not see what it means they are willing to extreminate 30,000 of their own.. and how that shows the threat Iran to the world is?
if you dont see it you might be blinded by your hubris and ego. You think Trump was after oil? well yo uknow what? since Iran has the capability to cut off 80% of the worlds oil... its not a selfish thing to make sure they cant do it. Its about ensuring the security of the entire world.

Yeah mean, like letting Trump have nukes???

And which is the only forking country in this world to drop nukes on people?

The ones trying to decide who gets them and who doesn't. FUKC ME.

 

[frigidweirdo]

How many of them are took forking stupid to even get in the military. Don't you need to have a reading level of at least second grade to get in these days?

 

[frigidweirdo]

The idea is to create wealth and some comforts of life of citizens with some rights. There are many people who will tell people visiting as civilians and military that they want what we have in the United States. I would gladly export your types to 3rd world nations for those who believe in that and would work for their dreams. I think a good percentage of men would welcome tens of millions of our Progressive women exchanged for the same number of overseas women. Those overseas women will not be slaves. They will love family life here and be appreciated more than you will ever know.

Problem is, arsehole, you don't know what "my types" are.

You see things in black and white. You have no capacity to think about things on a higher fuking level.

That's why eejits like you cheer when he said "no war" and you're cheering now. And you how no idea how much you're being manipulated. That's why Trump loves fuking idiots like you.

 

[Leo123]

Hope you got yours kid.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Hope you got yours kid.

Chances Barron Trump is going to war.... same chances as Trump had of going to Vietnam.

 

[Yarddog]

How many radical governments are there in this world?

The Economist Democracy Index - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Afghanistan is the least democratic. The US went to Afghanistan because of 9/11 and because it was on the other side of Iran.

Next up is Myanmar. The US couldn't give a flying fork about Myanmar.

Then North Korea. The US cared about Korea in the 1950s and has somehow cared a bit, but Trump has totally ignored them in his second term.

Then the CAR - The US couldn't give a damn, the US hasn't even had an embassy in the country for 14 years.

Then Syria. The US cared a little, mostly because it was close to Israel and Iraq. Enough for Trump to declare he defeated ISIS, but not enough for Trump to actually defeat ISIS.

Then Sudan, the US doesn't really care about Sudan.

Then Turkmenistan, Loas, Tajikistan, Chad, the DRC, Equatorial Guinea all of which the US doesn't give a damn about.

Then Yemen, which the US cares about enough because it's close to oil shipping routes.

Then Iran.

But obviously the US cares more about Iran than many of the others because of.... OIL

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• Armenia and Azerbaijan: Trump hosted leaders from both countries at the White House in August 2025, where they signed a peace agreement intended to end a decades-long conflict, although ratification of this treaty has been slow.
• Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda: Trump brokered a peace deal in June 2025 regarding fighting in Eastern Congo, though fighting has continued, making the ceasefire shaky.

so as you see not Trump simply does not ignore everyone else. He was ALSO busy trying to help negotiate with Russia and Ukraine.. since elected and its barely been a year. Seriously? you expect him to get involved everywhere else? what happened to taking care of one thing at a time?

So it goes something like this. You dont really have to take out the whole gang in a fight.. often times you find one of the worst and badest.. the one everyone is afraid of and you take him out. After that you ahve earned respect with the other gang members... your word actually means something after that.

I really really hope you are prepared when the Iranian people take their country back. I hope you will see that as a good thing and applaud it.. because still , you have ignored that Iran just got done killing at least 30K of their own people and what that means when they would love to export their religion.

Iran also has nuclear materials that puts them in front of the line ahead of urkmenistan, Loas, Tajikistan, Chad, the DRC, Equatorial Guinea, Myanmar, even North Korea right now because they are in their little corner of the world.

Now after this, the next time the U.S. goes to broker a peace deal with someone, the partys involved will come into the meeting knowing that the U.S. (under Trump at least) actually means what they will be saying.
Iran did not take our efforts to negotiate with them seriously because they were accustomed to people like George Bush and Obama... big words but in the end Iran knows were not really going to uphold the line.
In this case the Mullahs were wrong.

 

[frigidweirdo]

(copy paste )

• Armenia and Azerbaijan: Trump hosted leaders from both countries at the White House in August 2025, where they signed a peace agreement intended to end a decades-long conflict, although ratification of this treaty has been slow.
• Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda: Trump brokered a peace deal in June 2025 regarding fighting in Eastern Congo, though fighting has continued, making the ceasefire shaky.

so as you see not Trump simply does not ignore everyone else. He was ALSO busy trying to help negotiate with Russia and Ukraine.. since elected and its barely been a year. Seriously? you expect him to get involved everywhere else? what happened to taking care of one thing at a time?

So it goes something like this. You dont really have to take out the whole gang in a fight.. often times you find one of the worst and badest.. the one everyone is afraid of and you take him out. After that you ahve earned respect with the other gang members... your word actually means something after that.

I really really hope you are prepared when the Iranian people take their country back. I hope you will see that as a good thing and applaud it.. because still , you have ignored that Iran just got done killing at least 30K of their own people and what that means when they would love to export their religion.

Iran also has nuclear materials that puts them in front of the line ahead of urkmenistan, Loas, Tajikistan, Chad, the DRC, Equatorial Guinea, Myanmar, even North Korea right now because they are in their little corner of the world.

Now after this, the next time the U.S. goes to broker a peace deal with someone, the partys involved will come into the meeting knowing that the U.S. (under Trump at least) actually means what they will be saying.
Iran did not take our efforts to negotiate with them seriously because they were accustomed to people like George Bush and Obama... big words but in the end Iran knows were not really going to uphold the line.
In this case the Mullahs were wrong.

Haha, hilarious.

Trump went "Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize, how do I get one?" And they said "hey, you could do this or that.

Trump cared so much about Armenia and Azerbaijan that he called the first ALBANIA and the second he couldn't say it properly.

 

[candycorn]

• Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda: Trump brokered a peace deal in June 2025 regarding fighting in Eastern Congo, though fighting has continued, making the ceasefire shaky.

Hmmm...

 

[Yarddog]

Haha, hilarious.

Trump went "Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize, how do I get one?" And they said "hey, you could do this or that.

Trump cared so much about Armenia and Azerbaijan that he called the first ALBANIA and the second he couldn't say it properly.

Haha, hilarious.

Trump went "Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize, how do I get one?" And they said "hey, you could do this or that.

Trump cared so much about Armenia and Azerbaijan that he called the first ALBANIA and the second he couldn't say it properly.

I see you ignored most of my post but that's fine.

I at least hope you can see anything beneficial at all from Iran's leadership being taken out. But you cant right?? nothing at all? ok fine but consider...

Iran and Russia had just recently signed a comprehensive strategic military agreement.. where they will be coordinating with each other.
So hows that war going in Ukraine? you know we really cant get involved to stop Russia because well YOU KNOW.... they have many nuclear weapons.... but that great ally of their's IRAN who has been sending them millions of ammunition rounds ..ballistic missiles and drones as well as other logistical support in their war against Ukraine... we can take them out...and as a side benefit it also hurts Russia... that also helps NATO.

Im thinking, if Biden or harris had somehow dont this you would be applauding it .. but the moon would be made out of cheese before that ever happened.

 

[toobfreak]

But the evidence of Trump covering up the Epstein files isn't an accusation, it's very real and we can see it happening all the time.

The question now is do you see it during the day while you are awake and your eyes open, or do you just see it when you go off your meds?

Gee I bet Biden started the war in Ukraine to cover up his son's child molestations.

And he opened the borders to invasion and botched the afghan pull-out just to cover up his coke parties at the WH and showering with his daughter.

 

[Yarddog]

Hmmm...

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Trump did what he could... the rest is on them.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I see you ignored most of my post but that's fine.

I at least hope you can see anything beneficial at all from Iran's leadership being taken out. But you cant right?? nothing at all? ok fine but consider...

Iran and Russia had just recently signed a comprehensive strategic military agreement.. where they will be coordinating with each other.
So hows that war going in Ukraine? you know we really cant get involved to stop Russia because well YOU KNOW.... they have many nuclear weapons.... but that great ally of their's IRAN who has been sending them millions of ammunition rounds ..ballistic missiles and drones as well as other logistical support in their war against Ukraine... we can take them out...and as a side benefit it also hurts Russia... that also helps NATO.

Im thinking, if Biden or harris had somehow dont this you would be applauding it .. but the moon would be made out of cheese before that ever happened.

Of course there are beneficial aspects to it. I don't like the Iranian regime, the Ukraine will benefit from it massively.

However when the US goes warring.... pretending to have some kind of morals, they often leave a wake of dead bodies behind them.