Zone1 your subjective truth is not necessarily Truth, period

[BreezeWood]

We can't save ourselves

in fact, the true 1st century events and what jesus taught is that one can only free their spirits themselves to be judged by the heavens for admission to the everlasting.

 

[surada]

really, and what they have written is not a springboard for everyone ...

why is what you believe passed down to the 4th century any different than what has been passed down since that time and before to the present - the triumph of good vs evil as the means for judgement and admission to the everlasting as the goal granted a&e and taught by jesus so difficult to understand.

might ask oneself what is there, the religion of antiquity that is a threat to the desert religions they took upon themselves to crucify jesus.

It was political. Jesus was a threat to the Sanhedrin's power, or so they believed.

The north around Galilee, Capernaum and the Decapolis cities was
prosperous compared to Jerusalem and those people weren't considered "real Jews" by the Jerusalemites.

Herod Antipas and Pontius Pilate were not concerned about Jesus.

 

[BreezeWood]

It was political. Jesus was a threat to the Sanhedrin's power, or so they believed.

The north around Galilee, Capernaum and the Decapolis cities was
prosperous compared to Jerusalem and those people weren't considered "real Jews" by the Jerusalemites.

Herod Antipas and Pontius Pilate were not concerned about Jesus.

might ask oneself what is there, the religion of antiquity that is a threat to the desert religions they took upon themselves to crucify jesus.

is political the same as religious - the refutiation of judaism their false commandments, hereditary adultery they claim as heavenly personifications ... to correct the wrongs judaism instilled in the heavenly religion they claim.

the new religion of the 4th century is not new and not what jesus died for - written by those that crucified him.

their crime must be brought to justice for jesus's message ever to again come to life, the true heavenly religion. liberation theology, self determination. at least their message truly rendered.

 

[beautress]

This may sound boring to some, but I pray for the good of the American people when it comes to political matters. May God continue to love and care for the Human race. Good night all. Love, beautress

 

[BreezeWood]

This may sound boring to some, but I pray for the good of the American people when it comes to political matters.

when it comes to political matters what those people have chosen as their pursuits is not something that will respond to prayer than the intervention to set the correct course when the political has become an obsession.

prayer did not alter the conclusion of the 1st century events.

 

[ding]

Fuck you.

Just stay in your lower educated lane.

You mad, bro?

 

[ding]

when it comes to political matters what those people have chosen as their pursuits is not something that will respond to prayer than the intervention to set the correct course when the political has become an obsession.

prayer did not alter the conclusion of the 1st century events.

You like to use labels but will never label yourself. What is the source of your dogma?

 

[otto105]

You mad, bro?

I’m part of the resistance.

 

[beautress]

You mad, bro?

No, he is trying to turn this website into his personal pornography use.

 

[ding]

I’m part of the resistance.

Nah, you just mad.

 

[ding]

Good job.

You can now kiss the ring.

You seem unusually unhinged which is saying something. Too soon after the election?

 

[onefour1]

Do we save ourselves by our faith? Perhaps this will assist in understanding the Catholic perspective.

Catholics believe we are saved by grace...through faith...working itself out in love. Do you recall James writing that faith without works is dead? Do you recall Jesus telling the parable of the final judgment where sheep are on his right, goats are on his left? What separated the sheep and the goats? It was works. The goats did not have the love to clothe the naked, feed the hungry, visit those in prison, etc. The sheep did. And what each person does--or does did not do--for these people, they did--or did not do--for Jesus.

Grace is an amazing gift. it is free. We are saved by grace...through a faith (that is not dead)...working itself out in love.

If a Catholic speaks of the need for works, it is quite likely that Catholic does not understand some Protestants think they mean "working to earn salvation". There is no need to earn salvation. Salvation is ours as an amazing gift. It is through our faith we open this gift, and since faith without works is dead, we are working our faith out in love. Our faith...not our salvation.

On this doctrine I am in full agreement with you. Truly without the grace of Jesus Christ no one can be saved. However, Jesus requires that we do good works and try to become good beings. Do these works earn us our salvation? NO! We have all fallen short and only in and through the grace of Jesus Christ can we receive forgiveness of sin. But Jesus has told us that he wants us to repent and do good works before he will grant us the grace we so desperately need to be saved. Jesus taught:

Matthew 7:21
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

What is the will of our Father in Heaven? It is that we repent of our evil works and to keep his commandments and love one another. The works don't save us, but they bring us unto Jesus who is mighty to save. Thank you for this post Meriweather!!

 

[otto105]

You seem unusually unhinged which is saying something. Too soon after the election?

Kissing the ring is what you sycophants do.

 

[ding]

Kissing the ring is what you sycophants do.

Are you still upset that America rejected the Democratic Party's vision of the future?

 

[otto105]

Are you still upset that America rejected the Democratic Party's vision of the future?

Hilarious

We will see about future.

 

[ding]

Hilarious

We will see about future.

60 minutes did a show on it tonight. Maybe you ought to watch it. Pretty interesting discussion. Maybe educate yourself so you won't be so ignorant of the facts.

 

[forkintheroad7]

On this doctrine I am in full agreement with you. Truly without the grace of Jesus Christ no one can be saved. However, Jesus requires that we do good works and try to become good beings. Do these works earn us our salvation? NO! We have all fallen short and only in and through the grace of Jesus Christ can we receive forgiveness of sin. But Jesus has told us that he wants us to repent and do good works before he will grant us the grace we so desperately need to be saved. Jesus taught:

Matthew 7:21
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

What is the will of our Father in Heaven? It is that we repent of our evil works and to keep his commandments and love one another. The works don't save us, but they bring us unto Jesus who is mighty to save. Thank you for this post Meriweather!!

I mostly agree w/ this, except that I do believe works have a part in saving us. That is because, as Meriweather said, there is the book of James wherein we are taught that "faith without works is dead." Nothing dead gets into Heaven. Heaven is where God lives --and those who love Him. Jesus said that if we love Him, we will keep His commandments. That means we keep them even when we don't want to, when we feel we have other things to do, when we feel that we just cannot (for example) forgive someone "from the heart" as per His instructions. A lot of people follow Jesus until .. well, until they "can't" (or so they tell themselves). Jesus said FEW find the Narrow Way.

 

[onefour1]

I mostly agree w/ this, except that I do believe works have a part in saving us. That is because, as Meriweather said, there is the book of James wherein we are taught that "faith without works is dead." Nothing dead gets into Heaven. Heaven is where God lives --and those who love Him. Jesus said that if we love Him, we will keep His commandments. That means we keep them even when we don't want to, when we feel we have other things to do, when we feel that we just cannot (for example) forgive someone "from the heart" as per His instructions. A lot of people follow Jesus until .. well, until they "can't" (or so they tell themselves). Jesus said FEW find the Narrow Way.

You are right that they have a part in the degree of our salvation. The book of Revelation tells us:

Revelation 20:12-13
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

It is by our works that we are judged. If we do not do good works we will not make it into the highest degree of heaven. It is by our works that God will judge our status in the hereafter. However, without the saving grace of Jesus Christ, none of us will be resurrected or enter a kingdom of glory.

 

[lafayette]

I love reading your opinions, people.

 

[ding]

I love reading your opinions, people.

Why is that?