Your guide to manmade climate disasters in the world today

[Tommy Tainant]

Gowad you are that ignorant of the situation as it is preventable as they CHOSE to live in a high tropical storm region as the link, I posted earlier you ignored showed they see many storms over the years it was inevitable they get one going right up their alley as the odds was always possible.

Tacloban Leyte Philippines has been smashed by powerful hurricanes at least 3 times, the last one was in 2013 they chose to stay there and rebuild, it WILL get smashed again the future.

I really dont understand what point you are making. Maybe get in touch with exxon and ask them for simpler bullet points.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Labor Day hurricane of 1935

1935 is AFTER year 1900.

The point it they try hard to prove it was caused by the nebulous phrase global warming when the ocean waters in the area is always warm enough to develop a strong Hurricane it was unusual favorability of the regions weather dynamics that made it stronger than usual that gets ignored which is why they are getting the hard responses from me and others.

 

[otto105]

NBC documented it, in their lingo of course, but the truth is

THE ACTUAL SATELLITE AND BALLOON DATA showed precisely NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE for more than 3 decades of rising CO2, and then was FUDGED with bullshit excuses in 2005...

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

"satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling.

Scientists were left with two choices: either the atmosphere wasn't warming up, or "


it was time for another bullshit taxpayer funded FUDGE JOB.


When a planet's atmosphere warms, its surface air pressure rises, because all forms of air pressure are correlated with temperature. Earth Surface Air Pressure over the past 70 years is slightly down.


Mars, with its highly elliptical orbit, demonstrates that truth....

Climate toddler, the article in question does not reinforce your opinion that CO2 and temperature are mutually exclusive. Nor does the article support your assertion that the dad was intentionally fudged.

So again, what scientific evidence do you have that CO2 in temperature are not correlated and causing global warming

 

[Sunsettommy]

I really dont understand what point you are making. Maybe get in touch with exxon and ask them for simpler bullet points.

No it is your lack of scientific critical thinking ability that is hindering you as I made a clear statement people chose to live in a notorious high storm region of the ocean where it is always warm enough for strong tropical/hurricane storm development.

This is Hurricane Melissa, the unusual favorability for enhanced storm development was caused by the absence of wind shear and no dry air and a large warm water pool, see how it is fully circular.

LINK

 

[Grumblenuts]

The new face of major hurricanes

Hurricane Melissa followed what has unfortunately become a pattern for major storms: It formed late in the season, intensified rapidly, then stalled near the coast.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Grumblenuts]

I really dont understand what point you are making. Maybe get in touch with exxon and ask them for simpler bullet points.

Google Search

 

[EMH]

the article in question does not reinforce your opinion that CO2 and temperature are mutually exclusive.

and that's the difference between us. I pay attention to DATA, the ACTUAL DATA. You parrot. I provide theory and data that validates the theory. You do not understand the difference between DATA and FUDGE. My conclusions are correct. You have a beak and a birdbrain...

 

[otto105]

and that's the difference between us. I pay attention to DATA, the ACTUAL DATA. You parrot. I provide theory and data that validates the theory. You do not understand the difference between DATA and FUDGE. My conclusions are correct. You have a beak and a birdbrain...

What data are you referencing?

 

[EMH]

The new face of major hurricanes

Hurricane Melissa followed what has unfortunately become a pattern for major storms: It formed late in the season, intensified rapidly, then stalled near the coast.

www.nbcnews.com

The "pattern" is that when there is a below normal cane season, as this one was, CO2 FRAUD will try to "fudge a cane" at the end of the season with graphics and AI, but they are always busted when we look at the "damage" because the damage on Jamaica is Cat 1, not Cat 5, and no amount of lying and parroting can change that FACT.

There is no breakout in cane activity. Not even close...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

CO2 FRAUD uses drones to cloud seed and then claim the excess rain from the cloud seeding is somehow evidence of "Global Warming," and bills the taxpayer for the drones.



Warmer oceans produces more and bigger canes. Earth is not getting that, and hence the lack of any increase in canes is proof that


OCEANS ARE NOT WARMING

 

[EMH]

What data are you referencing?

What data is NBC referencing??

DUH...

You should stick to Rubber Room, your level of intellect....

and by the way, your FRAUD "reaction score" is about to be outed as FUDGED FRAUD TOO!!!

 

[EMH]

where it is always warm enough for strong tropical/hurricane storm development

Wait a second. WE define our "hurricane season" for a reason. There are no canes Jan-May.

While late season storms do happen, they are largely weak ones, because late October the Sun has been below Equator for more than a month, the Sun is up for only 11 hours, and the northern hemisphere is losing heat energy as a result.


Hurricanes have properties, historical characteristics.

Cat 5 storm surge > 18 feet starting at 160 mph, but we are asked to believe a 200mph cane had a storm surge of only 13 feet, and we really didn't even see 13 feet in the photos, more like 8-10.

They can AI the satellite graphics and lie their asses off. IT is what they do. When a 200mph Cat 5 hits land, it wipes out trees and flimsy buildings and power lines completely. That did not happen on Jamaica, not even close. Cat 2 max....

 

[otto105]

What data is NBC referencing??

DUH...

You should stick to Rubber Room, your level of intellect....

and by the way, your FRAUD "reaction score" is about to be outed as FUDGED FRAUD TOO!!!

So, you don’t know.

Just an article that doesn’t prove CO2 and temperature to be mutually exclusive.

Got it from 2005.

What data is NBC referencing??

DUH...

You should stick to Rubber Room, your level of intellect....

and by the way, your FRAUD "reaction score" is about to be outed as FUDGED FRAUD TOO!!!

using science and data rebut this climate toddler.

Yes, the oceans are warming, with recent data showing they are warming at an accelerated rate. The oceans have absorbed over 90% of the excess heat from global warming, with 2023 being the hottest year on record for the oceans. This warming is causing sea levels to rise due to thermal expansion and contributing to more extreme weather events.

• • Accelerated warming:
    A 2024 report indicated the ocean is warming at twice the rate it was 20 years ago.
    
  • Record temperatures:
    Ocean temperatures have repeatedly broken records, with 2023 being the hottest year ever recorded for the oceans.
    
  • Heat absorption:
    The oceans act as a heat sink, absorbing an estimated 91% of the extra heat trapped by greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.
    
  • Consequences:
    • • Sea level rise: Water expands as it warms, and this thermal expansion is a major contributor to the rise in global sea levels.
        
      • Extreme weather: Warmer sea surface temperatures can lead to more water vapor in the atmosphere, increasing the risk of heavy rainfall and contributing to shifts in storm tracks and droughts in some areas.
        
      • Marine ecosystems: Rapid warming can devastate ecosystems like coral reefs and worsen "dead zones" that are low in oxygen.

 

[Grumblenuts]

OCEANS ARE NOT WARMING

The claim that oceans are not warming {<-- linky} is false; global oceans have been warming, with surface and deep waters showing a long-term warming trend despite year-to-year fluctuations

 

[EMH]

doesn’t prove CO2 and temperature to be mutually exclusive

It does actually.

CO2 in atmosphere increased, and temperature did not. What NBC calls "cooling" is really a flat line that goes up and down a bit and ended down slightly, but still by any credible person a "flat line" not a trend either way.

Hence, the ACTUAL DATA refutes the theory that adding CO2 to atmosphere causes "warming." It didn't. That's why CO2 FRAUD FUDGED IT.

The truth was NO WARMING IN ATMOSPHERE AT ALL.

 

[otto105]

It does actually.

CO2 in atmosphere increased, and temperature did not. What NBC calls "cooling" is really a flat line that goes up and down a bit and ended down slightly, but still by any credible person a "flat line" not a trend either way.

Hence, the ACTUAL DATA refutes the theory that adding CO2 to atmosphere causes "warming." It didn't. That's why CO2 FRAUD FUDGED IT.

The truth was NO WARMING IN ATMOSPHERE AT ALL.

Climate toddler the article from 2005 doesn’t state that the oceans have not warmed.

Maybe you should actually read it.

 

[justoffal]

I will update this thread most days as the earh dies screaming.
Lets start in Espana.

At least 95 people dead in Spain’s worst floods in three decades

Soldiers aid search for dozens still missing as prime minister warns extreme weather may not be over

www.theguardian.com

Scientists say extreme weather such as heatwaves and storms is becoming more intense as a result of the climate crisis.

51 dead in a sun parched area of Spain. Nothing to see here. Floods have become common place in Spain over the last few years. They are going to have to work out how to live with the results of climate breakdown,

A major worry is that this area provides much of our food. At the very least floods caused by climate change are inflationary. At worst 50 people die.

The desert has sand! We are doomed!

 

[EMH]

Climate toddler the article from 2005 doesn’t state that the oceans have not warmed.

Maybe you should actually read it.

And the beaked birdbrain goes BAWK, I'm PARROTING FUDGE again!!!!

How does the ocean affect hurricanes? - NOAA Ocean Exploration

Hurricanes form over tropical oceans, where warm water and air interact to create these storms.

oceanexplorer.noaa.gov

In order for a hurricane to form, two things must be present: a weather disturbance, such as a thunderstorm, that pulls in warm surface air from all directions and water at the ocean’s surface that is at least 80°F



In other words, warmer oceans would cause more and bigger canes. And that's the CO2 FRAUD problem with claiming "ocean warming," is that there is precisely ZERO increase in canes...


The ACTUAL DATA problem again...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

Strongest decade for canes the 1940s, second place the 1890s....


So hurricanes are not increasing, and hence

OCEANS ARE NOT WARMING

 

[Concerned American]

1935 is AFTER year 1900.

The point it they try hard to prove it was caused by the nebulous phrase global warming when the ocean waters in the area is always warm enough to develop a strong Hurricane it was unusual favorability of the regions weather dynamics that made it stronger than usual that gets ignored which is why they are getting the hard responses from me and others.

The point was he asked for a comparable hurricane. That one was comparable. 1935 was also a year of severe weather---did that have to do with ACC? The CC hysterics are looking for anything they can find to stay relevant as is evidenced by their failed attempts to limit the scope of their statements. Simpleton ways that are noticed immediately by critical thinkers.

 

[Mushroom]

What happened in the Little Ice Age?

If you have to ask something so basic, you need to do a lot more research before we can even have an actual discussion.

You can start here.

 

[Mushroom]

Tacloban Leyte Philippines has been smashed by powerful hurricanes at least 3 times, the last one was in 2013 they chose to stay there and rebuild, it WILL get smashed again the future.

Emerald Isle in North Carolina is literally built on a sand bank. And they spend millions of dollars each year trying to keep a sand bank stable. And every time a significant storm blasts through they lose multiple houses.

Yet, they still keep rebuilding there. The ultimate in insanity and human hubris, as sand banks are not permanent and are always trying to move. Yet for the last century humans have been trying to keep it fixed in place.