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cbs this morning (nora o'donnell)
Obama: "if the oceans rise 6 or 7 feet..., 99.5 % of scientists agree, the only people who don't agree, are republicans in the congress and people on the campaign trail." "not subject to dispute" "fish swimming in the streets in florida".
i'm stunned. global warming is a bigger existential threat than terrorism. Trump said it was the dumbest political comment he's ever heard. obama shrugs "look, we are going defeat isil". but climate change...
this is from memory, but i think i got it pretty much right.
so you warmists here we're right, and i think he really believes it.
political logic may be in bigger trouble than i thought, the squeaky globe gets the grease. this narrative comes from the president.
i hope it becomes a huge topic in the upcoming debates, because a lot is changing fast when it comes to the actual science. i'd like to see, in addition some congressional hearings, like the ones from the senate i have posted.
politically, what is really amazing to me is the voracity with which people cling to theories and science (junk) from fifteen or more years ago. one' poster's meme here is "it's all settled 15 years ago", that's it, no more discussion needed". that doesn't sound objective open minded or scientific to me. that sounds political and scary. i wish we could separate the politics from the problem. financially, have we spent more money on research in the last 15 years. if so why ?
one more thought, those of us whom do not buy it lock, stock and barrel haven't abandoned the environment. sometimes it seems as if the liberals think of themselves as the only ones who care. that's bs and they know it. pollution is a problem along with any environmental impact.
but how quixotic is waving a political sword at far away india and china or any other country. trying to control the weather now, seems a little ahead of our time. i'd like to see the politics pointed at a more local scale, which we are doing with incentives.
i'm staying with this topic, it's bizarre human nature to me. gone are the liberal days of question authority.
we are not the world's police, and we will not be able to enforce climate change directives in far away places with runaway populations. we can only lead by example.
scientific proof the ocean is rising - Google Search
Obama: "if the oceans rise 6 or 7 feet..., 99.5 % of scientists agree, the only people who don't agree, are republicans in the congress and people on the campaign trail." "not subject to dispute" "fish swimming in the streets in florida".
i'm stunned. global warming is a bigger existential threat than terrorism. Trump said it was the dumbest political comment he's ever heard. obama shrugs "look, we are going defeat isil". but climate change...
this is from memory, but i think i got it pretty much right.
so you warmists here we're right, and i think he really believes it.
political logic may be in bigger trouble than i thought, the squeaky globe gets the grease. this narrative comes from the president.
i hope it becomes a huge topic in the upcoming debates, because a lot is changing fast when it comes to the actual science. i'd like to see, in addition some congressional hearings, like the ones from the senate i have posted.
politically, what is really amazing to me is the voracity with which people cling to theories and science (junk) from fifteen or more years ago. one' poster's meme here is "it's all settled 15 years ago", that's it, no more discussion needed". that doesn't sound objective open minded or scientific to me. that sounds political and scary. i wish we could separate the politics from the problem. financially, have we spent more money on research in the last 15 years. if so why ?
one more thought, those of us whom do not buy it lock, stock and barrel haven't abandoned the environment. sometimes it seems as if the liberals think of themselves as the only ones who care. that's bs and they know it. pollution is a problem along with any environmental impact.
but how quixotic is waving a political sword at far away india and china or any other country. trying to control the weather now, seems a little ahead of our time. i'd like to see the politics pointed at a more local scale, which we are doing with incentives.
i'm staying with this topic, it's bizarre human nature to me. gone are the liberal days of question authority.
we are not the world's police, and we will not be able to enforce climate change directives in far away places with runaway populations. we can only lead by example.
scientific proof the ocean is rising - Google Search
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