You Can't Rape the Willing!

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"You can't rape the willing" seems to be a recurring theme in some of the comments that I've been reading lately. Especially, when someone is talking about the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell.

"They were prostitutes," "they were well paid," etc.

Not to come off like a Law and Order SVU episode, but can't even a prostitute be raped?

My family is (was) very large. My father was the oldest of twelve. I was raised with my aunts and uncles after losing my mom at a very young age.

So, we had quite a span of ages of aunts and uncles about the house on any given day. Some of us were in elementary, some in middle and some in high school (and starting to date) - all under one roof.

I think I was around 10 years old, and one of my older aunts was about to go out to a game, date, or something. My Grandfather didn't like what my aunt was wearing, and I remember him being very stern and telling her how he felt about it. I was too young to remember everything he said but I do remember him saying, "you can't rape the willing" and then explaining it.

The gist of it was, if you go out dressed like that, have some guy attack you. Don't come home crying that they took advantage of you.

He also used to say, "Why should they buy the cow, if they can get the milk for free?"

It took me a long time and having a daughter of my own to know for sure where my grandfather's heart was in what he was saying. However, I think he would also agree with me, that even a hardened professional prostitute can be a victim.

It may be true that "you can't rape the willing" but the key word in that is "willing." It's not in the choice of work or the choice in how one decides to dress.

It would be great to see if anyone agrees with me on this.
 
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"You can't rape the willing" seems to be a recurring theme in some of the comments that I've been reading lately. Especially, when someone is talking about the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell.

"They were prostitutes," "they were well paid," etc.

Not to come off like a Law and Order SVU episode, but can't even a prostitute be raped?

My family is (was) very large. My father was the oldest of twelve. I was raised with my aunts and uncles after losing my mom at a very young age.

So, we had quite a span of ages of aunts and uncles about the house on any given day. Some of us were in elementary, some in middle and some in high school (and starting to date) - all under one roof.

I think I was around 10 years old, and one of my older aunts was about to go out to a game, date, or something. My Grandfather didn't like what my aunt was wearing, and I remember him being very stern and telling her how he felt about it. I was too young to remember everything he said but I do remember him saying, "you can't rape the willing" and then explaining it.

The gist of it was, if you go out dressed like that, have some guy attack you. Don't come home crying that they took advantage of you.

He also used to say, "Why should they buy the cow, if they can get the milk for free?"

It took me a long time and having a daughter of my own to know for sure where my grandfather's heart was in what he was saying. However, I think he would also agree with me, that even a hardened professional prostitute can be a victim.

It may be true that "you can't rape the willing" but the key word in that is "willing." It's not in the choice of work or the choice in how one decides to dress.

It would be great to see if anyone agrees with me on this.

"You can't rape the willing"

That was Ted Kennedy's life motto.
 
"You can't rape the willing" seems to be a recurring theme in some of the comments that I've been reading lately. Especially, when someone is talking about the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell.

"They were prostitutes," "they were well paid," etc.

Not to come off like a Law and Order SVU episode, but can't even a prostitute be raped?

My family is (was) very large. My father was the oldest of twelve. I was raised with my aunts and uncles after losing my mom at a very young age.

So, we had quite a span of ages of aunts and uncles about the house on any given day. Some of us were in elementary, some in middle and some in high school (and starting to date) - all under one roof.

I think I was around 10 years old, and one of my older aunts was about to go out to a game, date, or something. My Grandfather didn't like what my aunt was wearing, and I remember him being very stern and telling her how he felt about it. I was too young to remember everything he said but I do remember him saying, "you can't rape the willing" and then explaining it.

The gist of it was, if you go out dressed like that, have some guy attack you. Don't come home crying that they took advantage of you.

He also used to say, "Why should they buy the cow, if they can get the milk for free?"

It took me a long time and having a daughter of my own to know for sure where my grandfather's heart was in what he was saying. However, I think he would also agree with me, that even a hardened professional prostitute can be a victim.

It may be true that "you can't rape the willing" but the key word in that is "willing." It's not in the choice of work or the choice in how one decides to dress.

It would be great to see if anyone agrees with me on this.

I'm trying to get the gist of what you are saying.

No one should be raped, no matter what they are wearing or what they do for a living, even being a prostitute.

Rape isn't about sex, it's about power. Always has been.
 
"You can't rape the willing"

That was Ted Kennedy's life motto.
I was anticipating the turn around on that.

The saying always seemed off to me.

I know what my grandfather meant by it but, it's too easy to take it the wrong way or to misuse it.
 
"You can't rape the willing" seems to be a recurring theme in some of the comments that I've been reading lately. Especially, when someone is talking about the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell.

"They were prostitutes," "they were well paid," etc.

Not to come off like a Law and Order SVU episode, but can't even a prostitute be raped?

My family is (was) very large. My father was the oldest of twelve. I was raised with my aunts and uncles after losing my mom at a very young age.

So, we had quite a span of ages of aunts and uncles about the house on any given day. Some of us were in elementary, some in middle and some in high school (and starting to date) - all under one roof.

I think I was around 10 years old, and one of my older aunts was about to go out to a game, date, or something. My Grandfather didn't like what my aunt was wearing, and I remember him being very stern and telling her how he felt about it. I was too young to remember everything he said but I do remember him saying, "you can't rape the willing" and then explaining it.

The gist of it was, if you go out dressed like that, have some guy attack you. Don't come home crying that they took advantage of you.

He also used to say, "Why should they buy the cow, if they can get the milk for free?"

It took me a long time and having a daughter of my own to know for sure where my grandfather's heart was in what he was saying. However, I think he would also agree with me, that even a hardened professional prostitute can be a victim.

It may be true that "you can't rape the willing" but the key word in that is "willing." It's not in the choice of work or the choice in how one decides to dress.

It would be great to see if anyone agrees with me on this.
I have literally heard noone, not a single person, say that about his victims
 
"You can't rape the willing" seems to be a recurring theme in some of the comments that I've been reading lately. Especially, when someone is talking about the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell.

"They were prostitutes," "they were well paid," etc.

Not to come off like a Law and Order SVU episode, but can't even a prostitute be raped?

My family is (was) very large. My father was the oldest of twelve. I was raised with my aunts and uncles after losing my mom at a very young age.

So, we had quite a span of ages of aunts and uncles about the house on any given day. Some of us were in elementary, some in middle and some in high school (and starting to date) - all under one roof.

I think I was around 10 years old, and one of my older aunts was about to go out to a game, date, or something. My Grandfather didn't like what my aunt was wearing, and I remember him being very stern and telling her how he felt about it. I was too young to remember everything he said but I do remember him saying, "you can't rape the willing" and then explaining it.

The gist of it was, if you go out dressed like that, have some guy attack you. Don't come home crying that they took advantage of you.

He also used to say, "Why should they buy the cow, if they can get the milk for free?"

It took me a long time and having a daughter of my own to know for sure where my grandfather's heart was in what he was saying. However, I think he would also agree with me, that even a hardened professional prostitute can be a victim.

It may be true that "you can't rape the willing" but the key word in that is "willing." It's not in the choice of work or the choice in how one decides to dress.

It would be great to see if anyone agrees with me on this.
You can't rape the willing, but you can have a lot of fun with the willing, if they are of legal age. If they aren't, it's rape.
 
You can't rape the willing, but you can have a lot of fun with the willing, if they are of legal age. If they aren't, it's rape.
Pretty much what I said.

Good on you for adding the age of consent aspect.
 
So you and nobody else.....
I didn't start this thread to out anyone and I'm not saying they used those exact words.

But the inference is clear, when you see it.
 
Pretty much what I said.

Good on you for adding the age of consent aspect.
There has also been allegations of use of drugs to make more willing. That can also be rape.
 
I have seen a number of interviews with Epstein victims. What Epstein did used to be called the crime of seduction. He identified beautiful, naive young women in late teens, early 20s and dazzled them. He promised thar his contacts in the modeling industry would give modeling contracts. He paid for apartments and bought them clothes. Yes they could say no and lose their home and income. He was building a little harem. He never physically abused any of these women. They were always free to go. Epstein was very much like Harvey Weinstein. You want that part, drop your pants.

One girl was 16. A friend if hers said she could get $200 for giving a creepy old man a massage. When she got there he was nude. She opted to leave. Epstein reached for his wallet, peeled off $200 and gave it to her. If she brought another girl, they would both get $200. Was that a crime, you betcha.

The hurt these young women endured cannot be diminished. However democrats, in their zeal to get Trump have blown up this case far beyond what it ever was.
 
If a woman dresses in a provocative way she deserves what she gets? That's a very dangerous line of thought. Don't take up a career in the legal or political profession with that attitude.
 
If a woman dresses in a provocative way she deserves what she gets? That's a very dangerous line of thought. Don't take up a career in the legal or political profession with that attitude.
Honor Killings are kosher in Sharia
 
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"You can't rape the willing" seems to be a recurring theme in some of the comments that I've been reading lately. Especially, when someone is talking about the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell.

"They were prostitutes," "they were well paid," etc.

Not to come off like a Law and Order SVU episode, but can't even a prostitute be raped?

My family is (was) very large. My father was the oldest of twelve. I was raised with my aunts and uncles after losing my mom at a very young age.

So, we had quite a span of ages of aunts and uncles about the house on any given day. Some of us were in elementary, some in middle and some in high school (and starting to date) - all under one roof.

I think I was around 10 years old, and one of my older aunts was about to go out to a game, date, or something. My Grandfather didn't like what my aunt was wearing, and I remember him being very stern and telling her how he felt about it. I was too young to remember everything he said but I do remember him saying, "you can't rape the willing" and then explaining it.

The gist of it was, if you go out dressed like that, have some guy attack you. Don't come home crying that they took advantage of you.

He also used to say, "Why should they buy the cow, if they can get the milk for free?"

It took me a long time and having a daughter of my own to know for sure where my grandfather's heart was in what he was saying. However, I think he would also agree with me, that even a hardened professional prostitute can be a victim.

It may be true that "you can't rape the willing" but the key word in that is "willing." It's not in the choice of work or the choice in how one decides to dress.

It would be great to see if anyone agrees with me on this.
Hell, you can't. Have you seen farming in America lately.

The pimp is now claiming that he will use some grift money to pay them off.
 
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