Yes, you are better off now than you were then.

[HikerGuy83]

In other words, you are unable to refute my documented statement with any credible data, but you still don't like it.

I did in post 161.

But you didn't present any credible data.

Like so many on your side, you will jump when one data point falls your way.

Your own article says it was way off due to the rush of inflation.

So if you integrate peoples situation over the entire four years, they are still way way way behind.

Wages always catch up. But in terms of the setbacks they've suffered in the past four years, getting one month ahead means nothing.

Overall, they are still f**ked.

Argue with that, fatass.

Your own article says it's true.

Pay check to paycheck families have increased 6% in the last year.

Things are "rockin'"

You bet.

But hey.....you got one month.

So YOU ARE NOT BETTER OFF....FAR FROM IT and the article is total BS in that claim.

 

[Nostra]

That took all of 30 seconds.

good boy.

Thanks. I just bumped that thread about Commie scum Putin endorsing your Commie scum Messiah.

 

[SweetSue92]

Most working Americans are better off now than they were when the reign of Trumpery ended with a dismal 34% public approval.

With inflation easing, the wages of working-class Americans are finally moving into the plus column. Average hourly pay for production and nonsupervisory workers — who make up four-fifths of employees — hit $30.27 in August, according to the latest report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. ​

According to my organization’s analysis, working-class Americans’ wages, adjusted for inflation, have just edged higher than they were on Election Day, 2020. The average working-class American can now answer “Yes” to the question, “Are you better off now than you were under Trump?”​

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The class of experts here telling you you're not experiencing your own life correctly

Screw that

 

[HikerGuy83]

The class of experts here telling you you're not experiencing your own life correctly

Screw that

What they are saying is wrong.

You are not better off before Trump.

You just started on the path to getting better.....if things keep up (if they are to be believed). But with four years of the Biden/Harris FUps, you are way way way behind.

That is the lie.

schmidlap is trying to figure out a way around this and as you can tell from his lack of posts....he's failing.

It's the same thing with inflation.

You were screwed. You still are. For many, the damage was done early on and their wages were not keeping up. Many using cards to stay afloat.

Now, they say.....oh great the rate is down. THE DAMAGE IS DONE.

If wages are catching up great. But you still have all that debt you accumulated.

But...but....but the RATE is down. BFD.

 

[GWV5903]

Your numbers are off by 70%.

Your full of shit

 

[Lisa558]

I did in post 161.

But you didn't present any credible data.

Like so many on your side, you will jump when one data point falls your way.

Your own article says it was way off due to the rush of inflation.

So if you integrate peoples situation over the entire four years, they are still way way way behind.

Wages always catch up. But in terms of the setbacks they've suffered in the past four years, getting one month ahead means nothing.

Overall, they are still f**ked.

Argue with that, fatass.

Your own article says it's true.

Pay check to paycheck families have increased 6% in the last year.

Things are "rockin'"

You bet.

But hey.....you got one month.

So YOU ARE NOT BETTER OFF....FAR FROM IT and the article is total BS in that claim.

I just did a Google search. The biased search engine has all sorts of articles “proving” how people are better off now than four years ago. Any article that tskes the opposite stand has been relegated to the hinterlands.

In the meantime, people are struggling with ridiculous grocery prices, skyhigh gas, big jumps in utilities, and just 20% higher on just about everything.

The only people not struggling are the liberal elites (so much money they don’t care), government workers and retirees (big raises to match the big inflation), and welfare takers (same reason).

The bulk of Americans -who fall in the lower-middle to working class groups and who are the backbone of this country - are going to the Dollar Store for second-rate groceries and stressing over how to pay the rent.

 

[protectionist]

I am as well, and I would bet than none of the right wingers here will admit to hurting either.

Of course we're hurting. Are you nuts ?

 

[protectionist]

Seriously, have you listened to trump.
Just listen to this, and confirm that you think trump should lead our Nation.
His speaking ability is that of a 5th grade child.

His speaking ability is just fine, and his economy was excellent for 3 years, before Democrats ruined it with their pandemic. And it was great again in Q 3 & 4 of 2020.

 

[protectionist]

I am so much better off. Inflation was low at the end while and because UE was 9.2%.

You dont communicate very well. A speech course might help.

 

[Lisa558]

Of course we're hurting. Are you nuts ?

They’re in major denial. I just had an unexpected bill of $340 yesterday. These type of things never mattered much before, but now I really feel them.

I am moving my mother’s entire remaining portfolio into cash as we head into the election. We simply cannot afford a stock market crash if the anti-capitalist wins. Her bills are now an ADDITIONAL $2000 a month over what had already been ridicously high ALF costs.

These Dems are arrogant snots.

 

[protectionist]

Liar,
A persons rent for the existing place they live, did NOT go from $700 to $2,000.
That is a FLAT out LIE.

And gas prices are NOT double.
You so badly want to count the COVID low price, and at the same time give trump credit for these low prices during COVID.

By most counts in my area, gas was $2.50 after COVID and is now $3.50.
Up, but NOT double.
OPEC+..........trumps deal to fuck Americans.

It is NOT a lie, and the rent of my own apartment that I was living in in 2020 was $600/month. (Oakwood Apartments, 1104 E 140th Ave, Tampa, FL 33613) I moved out when the rent went to $850. It is now $1600/month for a renovated apartment (a 167% increase) $1200/mo non-renovated. Before Biden came in, the rent increases were $25/year.

You still (Sept.18, 2024) don't know that Biden brought about the " high grocery or gas prices" by his actions of cancelling oil leases/drilling in Alaska & the Gulf of Mexico ? (by EO on his first day in office) Jeez.

Biden signs executive order pausing federal drilling leases​

OK. Let's go through it again for all the UNenlightens, starving for knowledge. When you cut supply, demand & prices go up (basic economics). Oil production plummeted in Feb. 2021. the NOSEDIVE oil production took between Trump's last month (344 MILLION BARRELS MONTH), and Biden's first month (277 MBM) when he issued an EO to halt oil drilling. A DROP of a whopping 67 MB/mo.
So the gas prices went up. They were $1.89.gallon when Trump left office. They are still now $3.45-4.78 in 11 states. $3.18-$3.45 in 12 more states. Even if we take the lowest ($3.18) of these, that is still a 62% inflation, relative to the $1.89/gal we all saw all over the country in Jan. 2021.

AAA Gas Prices

The rent that was $750/mo and is now $2000, is that of a friend of mine, but it is also the case for thousands of renters all over the country. This is absolutely common. Have you been living in closet for the last 4 years ? You are ignorant, and it's probably due to watching CNN, MSNBC et al disgraceful leftwing OMISSION media.

And guess what drove these rents up so high and so fast ? Biden flying thousands of illegal aliens into US cities and saturating their rental housing markets. Liberals don't know anything.

 

[j-mac]

Everything we do costs more, sure wages went up, but, there’s no getting around the fact that just living costs about $5,000 more per year AFTER the wage increase.

 

[Lisa558]

Liar,
A persons rent for the existing place they live, did NOT go from $700 to $2,000.
That is a FLAT out LIE.

And gas prices are NOT double.
You so badly want to count the COVID low price, and at the same time give trump credit for these low prices during COVID.

By most counts in my area, gas was $2.50 after COVID and is now $3.50.
Up, but NOT double.
OPEC+..........trumps deal to fuck Americans.

You continue to downplay the disaster that the Left has reigned down on the middle class.

My mother’s ALF just announced a 40% increase in the level adds-ons, plus 10% on the base. The liberal policies are ending up destroying the middle class so they can all end up on public assistance - which is exactly what the Marxists want: a ruling class at the top, and all the peons on their monthly stipends.

 

[Lisa558]

It is NOT a lie, and the rent of my own apartment that I was living in in 2020 was $600/month. (Oakwood Apartments, 1104 E 140th Ave, Tampa, FL 33613) I moved out when the rent went to $850. It is now $1600/month for a renovated apartment (a 167% increase) $1200/mo non-renovated. Before Biden came in, the rent increases were $25/year.

You still (Sept.18, 2024) don't know that Biden brought about the " high grocery or gas prices" by his actions of cancelling oil leases/drilling in Alaska & the Gulf of Mexico ? (by EO on his first day in office) Jeez.

Biden signs executive order pausing federal drilling leases​

OK. Let's go through it again for all the UNenlightens, starving for knowledge. When you cut supply, demand & prices go up (basic economics). Oil production plummeted in Feb. 2021. the NOSEDIVE oil production took between Trump's last month (344 MILLION BARRELS MONTH), and Biden's first month (277 MBM) when he issued an EO to halt oil drilling. A DROP of a whopping 67 MB/mo.
So the gas prices went up. They were $1.89.gallon when Trump left office. They are still now $3.45-4.78 in 11 states. $3.18-$3.45 in 12 more states. Even if we take the lowest ($3.18) of these, that is still a 62% inflation, relative to the $1.89/gal we all saw all over the country in Jan. 2021.

AAA Gas Prices

The rent that was $750/mo and is now $2000, is that of a friend of mine, but it is also the case for thousands of renters all over the country. This is absolutely common. Have you been living in closet for the last 4 years ? You are ignorant, and it's probably due to watching CNN, MSNBC et al disgraceful leftwing OMISSION media.

And guess what drove these rents up so high and so fast ? Biden flying thousands of illegal aliens into US cities and saturating their rental housing markets. Liberals don't know anything.

There is an apartment complex several miles from me, in an working class area that now looks like San Salvadore, that has 4-bedroom apartments. The rents are over $4,000 a month, and what we have are four illegal immigrant families to an apartment.

They of course also have 2- and 3-bedroom apartments. This is where regular working class families used to rent, at modest costs. But illegal families are bunching up and driving the rents way up, and the working class can’t afford them anymore.

The illegal lowlifes are even doing the same thing in housing developments. There was a murder in a middle-class neighborhood of 4-bedroom colonials, and you know how many unrelated people were living there? 15!

 

[Lisa558]

P.S. you can always tell when the illegals have invaded a formerly middle-class neighborhood: there are cars parked all over the place, with some pulled up on the front lawn.

 

[protectionist]

You have your dogma, but offer no actual data to support it, just an anecdote.

On Jan. 20, 2021, the average price for a gallon of gas nationwide was approximately $2.39.

After idling over the Labor Day weekend, the national average for a gallon of gas resumed its pace of daily declines by falling six cents since last week to $3.30. The price is still going down.

Obviously, $3.30 is not double $2.39.

Oh, the "national average", huh?
Contrary to the illustrious"data" you might have read, I go by the "data" of my eyes & ears. On Jan. 21, 2021, the price of gas at my corner convenience store Shell station was $1.89/gallon. THAT is MY data, and I dont give a rat's ass what yours is, because people all over the country reported it to be one dollar & something cents. Some prices were LOWER thm $1.89. I recall hearing $1.65.

But I'll still go by the $1.89 I saw myself. And $4....$5....$6....$7 (in western states) is NOT double the $1.89. They are TRIPLE that amount.

And even if the national average really is $3.30.gallon, that's a lot higher than $1.89, and the clear question has to be > why is it STILL so high 3.5 years later ?

When the "data" says a town has 20 homeless people, and there are hundreds of tents all over the place, that's when you know what you can do with your "data". Liberals love 'data', especially when it's from sources friendly to them (and ONLY then).

 

[protectionist]

Oh Dear Lord.

COVID.....happened under trumps leadership.
For you.....ALL COVID blame gets cast upon anyone but trump. IE....Not trumps fault.
Well, he was POTUS and famously said..... "No, I don't take ANY responsibility at ALL."
He said it, it's on VIDEO, and you will or already have, made excuses for him saying that.
Saying..."No, I don't take ANY responsibility at ALL." is weakness. Not what a Leader says.

Like this guy says ......


WTF...... Democratic Pandemic.......Dear Lord, take SOME responsibility.
But NO, it's the (D) fault.

Correct. It was entirely Democrats' fault.
The pandemic and its economic negatives, are attributable to Democrats
1. Initiated by Obama/Biden's NIH funding of the Wuhan lab.
2. Democrat governors kept the shutdowns going.
3. Pelosi blocked stimulus checks to keep the economy bad an an election year.
They deliberately caused the economy to crash, just to make Trump look bad, but this has been known for 4 years now, so your silly attempt to keep the blame Trump game is beyond absurdity.

Trump was right, He was not responsible for the pandemic happening, and I say it too, right now.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

1. Initiated by Obama/Biden's NIH funding of the Wuhan lab.

Obama paused the funding and Trump started it again.

 

[Lisa558]

Oh, the "national average", huh?
Contrary to the illustrious"data" you might have read, I go by the "data" of my eyes & ears. On Jan. 21, 2021, the price of gas at my corner convenience store Shell station was $1.89/gallon. THAT is MY data, and I dont give a rat's ass what yours is, because people all over the country reported it to be one dollar & something cents. Some prices were LOWER thm $1.89. I recall hearing $1.65.

But I'll still go by the $1.89 I saw myself. And $4....$5....$6....$7 (in western states) is NOT double the $1.89. They are TRIPLE that amount.

And even if the national average really is $3.30.gallon, that's a lot higher than $1.89, and the clear question has to be > why is it STILL so high 3.5 years later ?

The Dems are desperate to hide the harm the Biden-Harris Administration has done to the middle and working classes, and that’s what we have all these liberal media articles telling us how great things are.

The problem the libs have is…..people GO into grocery stores and GO to the gas station and GET utilities bills.

 

[schmidlap]

Oh, the "national average", huh?
Contrary to the illustrious"data" you might have read, I go by the "data" of my eyes & ears. On Jan. 21, 2021, the price of gas at my corner convenience store Shell station was $1.89/gallon. THAT is MY data, and I dont give a rat's ass what yours is, because people all over the country reported it to be one dollar & something cents. Some prices were LOWER thm $1.89. I recall hearing $1.65.

But I'll still go by the $1.89 I saw myself. And $4....$5....$6....$7 (in western states) is NOT double the $1.89. They are TRIPLE that amount.

And even if the national average really is $3.30.gallon, that's a lot higher than $1.89, and the clear question has to be > why is it STILL so high 3.5 years later ?

I accept your anecdotes for what they're worth, and the empirical data for what it's worth.

Unemployment is down. Income is up. Inflation and illegal immigration numbers have been dropping in recent nonths.

When you opined, "Never mind that gas more than doubled, and prices are STILL GOING UP," I did not mind it because it is blatantly true.