Is Trump any better than Putin?

[Luckyone]

Iran has been killing Americans and innocent people in the region for 47 years ..
and they fund direct and support their proxy Hamas ..

According to reports from the U.S. Department of State and other U.S. officials, Hamas killed 46 American citizens during the October 7, 2023, attacks on Israel. These victims were among the more than 1,200 people killed during the attack, which also saw 12 Americans taken hostage.
U.S. Embassy in Chile (.gov) +3
Key details regarding the American impact of the October 7, 2023 attacks:

• Total Deaths: 46 Americans were killed.
• Hostages: Approximately 12 Americans were taken hostage into Gaza.
• Context: The attacks included the murder of over 1,200 people total and represented the largest massacre of Jewish people since the Holocaust.

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Yes, Iran provides significant funding, weapons, and training to Hamas, acting as one of its primary, long-term backers
. Tehran provides roughly

million annually to Palestinian armed groups, including Hamas. This support includes military training by the IRGC, technical assistance for rocket production, and logistics for smuggling weapons into Gaza.

Let me quote YOU!

1) has been killing Americans and innocent people in the region for 47 years.
2) Hamas killed 46 American citizens during the October 7, 2023,

If these were the reasons for bombing them NOW, why didn't they get bombed during the last 5 presidents (including Reagan, Bush Sr and Jr and Trump in his first term?

Why NOW???? and by the way, didn't Trump say 8 months ago when he bombed them the first time, that their "nuclear capabilities" had been OBLITERATED?. was he lying or simply wrong/incompetent?

I still do not see why he bombed them now! I have yet to see anything from anyone (other than Trump's words) that proves that they were an "immediate" threat to us!!!

On the other side of the coin, I can see politically and to his perceived benefit, that the upcoming midterm elections, him in the Epstein files (especially the files that were blanked out), and his diminishing popularity, were all good reasons to bomb Iran. He is heading down a slope and a war is what he thinks will stop the slide.

After all, what gets someone on your side if you making them think their lives and well-being are at risk, and you are defending them?

 

[yidnar]

Let me quote YOU!

1) has been killing Americans and innocent people in the region for 47 years.
2) Hamas killed 46 American citizens during the October 7, 2023,

If these were the reasons for bombing them NOW, why didn't they get bombed during the last 5 presidents (including Reagan, Bush Sr and Jr and Trump in his first term?

Why NOW???? and by the way, didn't Trump say 8 months ago when he bombed them the first time, that their "nuclear capabilities" had been OBLITERATED?. was he lying or simply wrong/incompetent?

I still do not see why he bombed them now! I have yet to see anything from anyone (other than Trump's words) that proves that they were an "immediate" threat to us!!!

On the other side of the coin, I can see politically and to his perceived benefit, that the upcoming midterm elections, him in the Epstein files (especially the files that were blanked out), and his diminishing popularity, were all good reasons to bomb Iran. He is heading down a slope and a war is what he thinks will stop the slide.

After all, what gets someone on your side if you making them think their lives and well-being are at risk, and you are defending them?

they are getting bombed now because we have a leader that has come to the realization that enough is enough ! if Europe would have taken the same stance in 1938 Hitler wouldn't have been able to kill millions ..

 

[Luckyone]

they are getting bombed now because we have a leader that has come to the realization that enough is enough ! if Europe would have taken the same stance in 1938 Hitler wouldn't have been able to kill millions ..

The bottom line as far as Trump is concerned, is that he personally benefits from this war.

As far as the U.S. and Americans, no one has yet been able to show me what benefits we are getting from this war. Isn't Trump supposedly doing things to help THIS nation?

In quoting your example of Hitler, he was invading countries in Europe and tangibly affecting them. Show me where Iran has done any of that! have they invaded any countries yet? and how are they a risk to us?

As such, I disagree with your defense of Trump, no matter what Iran has proven to be in the past. Bottom line and because of Trump's decision, 7 Americans are dead, over 200 seriously wounded and over 7000 innocent people have been killed.

In addition:

What long-term financial impacts could the Iran war have on the U.S.?​

The long-term financial impacts of the war in Iran involve significant government spending, increased national debt, and prolonged economic volatility. Operations have already cost taxpayers approximately $8 billion in the first six days alone, with Pentagonestimates suggesting a daily burn rate of nearly $1 billion. This spending occurs as the U.S. faces internal fiscal challenges, including a monthlong partial Department of Homeland Securityshutdown and projected funding shortfalls for programs like Pell Grants.

and I have yet to see or find (in doing research) what benefits we can receive. The only benefits I was able to find are these:

Based on March 2026 reports, potential benefits for the U.S. from conflict with Iran are primarily strategic, including bolstering regional alliances.

So with this information, let me know what benefits we (Americans) will get from Trump's decision to wage war on Iran?

Oh, by the way:

Trump Approval Rating Hits New Low With Independents​

Mar 10, 2026

 

[yidnar]

The bottom line as far as Trump is concerned, is that he personally benefits from this war.

As far as the U.S. and Americans, no one has yet been able to show me what benefits we are getting from this war. Isn't Trump supposedly doing things to help THIS nation?

In quoting your example of Hitler, he was invading countries in Europe and tangibly affecting them. Show me where Iran has done any of that! have they invaded any countries yet? and how are they a risk to us?

As such, I disagree with your defense of Trump, no matter what Iran has proven to be in the past. Bottom line and because of Trump's decision, 7 Americans are dead, over 200 seriously wounded and over 7000 innocent people have been killed.

In addition:

What long-term financial impacts could the Iran war have on the U.S.?​

The long-term financial impacts of the war in Iran involve significant government spending, increased national debt, and prolonged economic volatility. Operations have already cost taxpayers approximately $8 billion in the first six days alone, with Pentagonestimates suggesting a daily burn rate of nearly $1 billion. This spending occurs as the U.S. faces internal fiscal challenges, including a monthlong partial Department of Homeland Securityshutdown and projected funding shortfalls for programs like Pell Grants.

and I have yet to see or find (in doing research) what benefits we can receive. The only benefits I was able to find are these:

Based on March 2026 reports, potential benefits for the U.S. from conflict with Iran are primarily strategic, including bolstering regional alliances.

So with this information, let me know what benefits we (Americans) will get from Trump's decision to wage war on Iran?

Oh, by the way:

Trump Approval Rating Hits New Low With Independents​

Mar 10, 2026

make all the excuses you want to for your islamofascist allies Nazi ! we all know the regime in Iran is a threat to the world .. the left refuses to acknowledge that fact because they are allied with the Islamofascists in their fight to destroy the Jewish state and overthrow the capitalist system in America !

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Based on the search results, the "Red-Green Alliance" in the context of Islam refers to a controversial and often criticized political/social coalition between far-left, progressive, or "red" groups and Islamist organizations or "green" groups
. This alliance, sometimes referred to as an "Islamo-leftist" partnership, is largely focused on opposition to Western institutions, capitalism, liberal democracy, and Zionism.

 

[The Irish Ram]

so, stopping that "possibility" was more important than saving the lives of innocent children and teachers?

I think you aimed that question at the wrong subject. Were the lives of innocent children and teachers important enough for Iran to remove them from harm's way?

 

[Luckyone]

make all the excuses you want to for your islamofascist allies Nazi ! we all know the regime in Iran is a threat to the world .. the left refuses to acknowledge that fact because they are allied with the Islamofascists in their fight to destroy the Jewish state and overthrow the capitalist system in America !

AI Overview



Based on the search results, the "Red-Green Alliance" in the context of Islam refers to a controversial and often criticized political/social coalition between far-left, progressive, or "red" groups and Islamist organizations or "green" groups
. This alliance, sometimes referred to as an "Islamo-leftist" partnership, is largely focused on opposition to Western institutions, capitalism, liberal democracy, and Zionism.

So now, we are supposed to be the saviors of our word and make Americans pay for it.

By the same token, we want to get out of NATO, so we alone can do it!

Wow, what a great president Trump is............................until he fails. Then though, his followers will find an excuse (someone else to blame), like they always do for him!

 

[Luckyone]

I think you aimed that question at the wrong subject. Were the lives of innocent children and teachers important enough for Iran to remove them from harm's way?

they were not in harm's way, given that the old information that Hegseth had was no longer in place. The military facility had been moved elsewhere and replaced with the school.

 

[yidnar]

So now, we are supposed to be the saviors of our word and make Americans pay for it.

By the same token, we want to get out of NATO, so we alone can do it!

Wow, what a great president Trump is............................until he fails. Then though, his followers will find an excuse (someone else to blame), like they always do for him!

Trump got NATO to more than double their military spending .. your effeminate feelings and emotions don't change the facts ..

 

[The Irish Ram]

they were not in harm's way, given that the old information that Hegseth had was no longer in place. The military facility had been moved elsewhere and replaced with the school.

Bullshit.

 

[ThisIsMe]

No warnings before they bombed the school.

They wanted people to stay home.

No, I don't think they did it intentionally. I just want them to act like rational adults and admit they did it. Did you hear Trump talk about it? He's delusional.

Yes, I agree, we need to take responsibility, but you guys want to completely ignore that Iran was responsible for it. They knew bombs we’re coming, they should have evacuated citizens.

Why has NOBODY condemn them? It’s all about trump.

 

[Marener]

They wanted people to stay home.




Yes, I agree, we need to take responsibility, but you guys want to completely ignore that Iran was responsible for it. They knew bombs we’re coming, they should have evacuated citizens.

Why has NOBODY condemn them? It’s all about trump.

There was no warning that the strike was coming.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I would blame Iran for the deaths but keep in mind that Iran is not a nation that cares about people. They have an ideology where death is not a bad thing (gets you 72 virgens) and therefore they have no problem killing innocent people. We are different, are we not?

Really…see, if trump put people in harms way when he knew attacks were coming, I’d blame HIM.

Now to answer your other question:

Let me ask you a question back. If Iran were to bomb a U.S. military base next to a school, would you blame Trump or Iran for the deaths of the children there? In addition, would you be saying that Iran had the right to bomb such a facility, knowing that the school was there?

If we intentionally put civilians in or near military targets, I’d blame trump. You can’t control what someone else is going to do, but you can control how you react to it. Iran uses their civilians as human shields.

Now, let’s just go with your theory. Iran puts civilians in and around military assets, this means we can no longer attack them . So what do we do if they attack us, or keep pursuing a nuclear weapon? What is our response?

 

[ThisIsMe]

There was no warning that the strike was coming.

If we tell you “stay home, bombs are coming”…I mean.. I’d take them at their word.

But ok, trump is bad bad bad for bombing that school. So what do we do? How do we respond to attacks and threats when our enemies are going to use their people as human shields?