WWIII . . . Let's Game Some Scenarios

Given what The Soviets did on their advance through Germany. A choice between a Soviet Invasion or a nuclear weapon would be a tough call.

Yeah but in the arena of atrocities, it's a real tough call to ferret out who was worse: Soviets or Germans in Nazi Germany.

It's a race to the bottom. In short, as you said, it's freaking Europe. Why are we so afraid of these people's opinions? And yet we are. Me? "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."
 
Can even one person explain to me why we have funneled billions and billions of money to Ukraine now? I'm not talking Hunter's laptop money now, just money for rebuilding or whatever. I'm sick of this.

Step One: Use the media to make a situation look like the worst military atrocity since Gengis Khan.

Step Two: Divide both sides in that conflict into pure evil and pure good.

Step Three: Declare that anyone who doesn't take sides (or takes the wrong side) is worse than Hitler.

Step Four: Start writing checks and demonize anyone who complains.
 
Yeah but in the arena of atrocities, it's a real tough call to ferret out who was worse: Soviets or Germans in Nazi Germany.

Oh yea, totally. I don't begrudge the Russians a single thing. Everything they did to Germany when they advance into it was payback with interest.

I can't raise a pimple on sympathy's buttocks for The Germans. As far as I'm concerned, they got off easy.

However, with the exception of a very embarrassing defeat of Russia's Navy in 1905, The Russians didn't really have a beef with The Japanese.
 
Step One: Use the media to make a situation look like the worst military atrocity since Gengis Khan.

Step Two: Divide both sides in that conflict into pure evil and pure good.

Step Three: Declare that anyone who doesn't take sides (or takes the wrong side) is worse than Hitler.

Step Four: Start writing checks and demonize anyone who complains.

Yes, we have lost all sense of reason. There is no cognition between

I have cried over Ukrainian children....

And

DO SOMETHING!!!


When in fact, the "AND" is really important. REALLY important.
 
Given what The Soviets did on their advance through Germany. A choice between a Soviet Invasion or a nuclear weapon would be a tough call.
I've heard some horror stories by how the Americans treated the Krauts as well. . . no ones hands are clean.

Our firebomging of Dresden makes any horrors the Soviets did, pale in comparison. That was as bad as any nuking.

Anyone that suggests using nukes though? Is insane. Once unleashed, that genie isn't going back in the bottle till nothing is left of civilization.
 
Oh yea, totally. I don't begrudge the Russians a single thing. Everything they did to Germany when they advance into it was payback with interest.

I can't raise a pimple on sympathy's buttocks for The Germans. As far as I'm concerned, they got off easy.

However, with the exception of a very embarrassing defeat of Russia's Navy in 1905, The Russians didn't really have a beef with The Japanese.

I maintain that Germany was on a long course of reconciliation but bashed themselves against some rocks along the way, an all too human tendency. I now find them as a nation/people intolerable and do not trust them at all.

To be specific, they became arrogant and prideful about how "healed" they were, took a look around and sniffed up about how hey! no one else was reconciling THEIR terrible past, like America, and look how evolved the wonderful Germans were. And the whole world better catch up with their super aware awareness of how their grandparents burned babies but are now so super evolved.

I'm not buying it and never bought it. Not sorry, Germany.
 
I've heard some horror stories by how the Americans treated the Krauts as well. . . no ones hands are clean.

Anyone that suggests using nukes though? Is insane. Once unleashed, that genie isn't going back in the bottle till nothing is left of civilization.

It would be very difficult to look at the inhumanity of Nazi Germany and not want to repay with inhumanity.

But that's the correct course. Justice. But not inhumanity.
 
I've said this before:

They build Holocaust Memorials in Europe for two reasons.

1. To grudgingly admit that "just maybe" they did that that whole "let's kill all the Jews" thing a little too far.

2. It's the only place in Europe where people can go and see what their grandparents were really up to in the war.
 
Once unleashed, that genie isn't going back in the bottle till nothing is left of civilization.

You're saying that the choice between never using a nuclear weapon and total planetary annihilation is a binary choice?

On what are you basing that belief?

People have used nuclear weapons before. People have threatened their use many more times.

The genie is still very very comfortable in her bottle.

Jeanniebottle.jpg
 
You're saying that the choice between never using a nuclear weapon and total planetary annihilation is a binary choice?

On what are you basing that belief?

People have used nuclear weapons before. People have threatened their use many more times.

The genie is still very very comfortable in her bottle.

View attachment 617085
At the time they were used, the folks that used them had a monopoly. Stop being cute.
 
I'll go first.

Under unrelenting pressure from Western media and with non-stop pictures of murdered Ukrainian children spammed all over the net, and on the back of skyrocketing inflation at home, Biden cajoles the Congress to declare war on Russia. Both sides informally agree to keep the conflict conventional. World War three has begun. To be fair, Biden and NATO could alternatively decide to go for the no-fly zone over the Ukraine, forcing Putin to declare war on the US.

The Allies: the US, NATO, India, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the EU, various South American and African nations

The New Axis: Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Mexico, Venezuela, various African and Middle Eastern nations

Front One: Europe

A given. Russia launches a mass invasion of Eastern Europe while simultaneously bombing major European capital cities. Meanwhile, in Eastern Europe NATO forward positions are overrun and driven back. The US mobilizes its major army divisions (which will take two months minimum to reach Europe) and rapid deploys the three Atlantic based Marine Expeditionary Units via the Mediterranean. Russian subs sink two of them. Several EU nations, such as Germany, France, Italy and Spain—with their capital cities in ruin—threaten to drop out of NATO if US main forces fail to reach Europe in a given period of time. Putin launches a second thrust across the Bering Sea to slow American main battle forces reaching Europe.

Front Two: The Pacific

China declares war on the US and NATO and immediately launches a two-pronged assault. Prong one: an invasion of Taiwan. Prong two: an invasion of Australia. While US forces are still in the deployment to Europe stage, China launches a third campaign moving full steam east across the Pacific capturing the Philippines, threatening Japan, and moving rapidly toward Hawaii, causing the US to split its forces between Europe and the newly opened and rapidly widening Pacific theatre.

Front Three: South Korea

North Korea declares war on both the United States and South Korea and invades the south, further slowing America's response to Europe and buying Putin even more time to gain footholds in Eastern Europe and beyond. The US must now attempt a rescue/reinforcement of its military forces stationed in South Korea, as Japan is busy dealing with Chinese forces threatening its homeland.

Front Four: Alaska/Canada

Russian forces drive deep into Alaska and split, with half driving southeast into Canada, and the other half pushing down through British Columbia, threatening the lower 48 United States. Putin knows this is a suicide mission, but he's counting on the operation further slowing America's main military forces from reaching Europe. Perhaps some Russian missile batteries make it far enough south to launch on US Western seaboard cities. Panic sweeps up and down the coast, from Washington State to California.

Front Five: Iran/Israel/Saudi Arabia

Iran declares war on Israel, Saudi Arabia and the United States and pushes north through Armenia and Georgia in an attempt to link up with Russian forces in the Ukraine. Iranian forces also drive southwest across the Persian Gulf, setting up a blockade of that vital waterway, sabotaging oil tankers as it goes, invades the UAE and then Saudi Arabia in an attempt to secure Saudi oil fields for the New Axis Powers. Simultaneously, Iran also fires missiles at Israel, who threatens to go nuclear.

Front Six: India/China

China opens up yet another front by invading India, who immediately threatens nuclear retaliation.

Front Seven: Australia/China

China takes Australia in a matter of days, all the while the Australians beg for US forces to come to their rescue.

Front Eight: The Atlantic

Hundreds of US ships begin to cross the Atlantic carrying the bulk of America's main battle tanks, IFVs, artillery pieces, ammo and other war materials all bound for Europe and the fight against Russia. Russian subs sink scores of them, forcing vital US Naval assets to escort these ship convoys and to also suffer losses to Russian subs.

WWIII: the halfway point:

Russia has driven deep into central Europe and has devastated several major European cities. If American main battle forces take much longer to reach the European theater, they won't have much of a foothold or safe port to land. Meanwhile, the Middle East is ablaze with Iran's war on Saudi Arabia and Israel, and the world economy is crashing with Iran's blockade of the Persian Gulf. South Korea has nearly fallen to the North, and tens of thousands of US soldiers are trapped in southern South Korea, their backs to the sea. Taiwan and Australia have fallen. Japan is on the brink of being overrun by Chinese landing forces. Alaska has fallen, Canada is on the brink and Russian forces are striking US West Coast cities with mobile missile batteries from British Columbia. The only question? Which side will be the first to resort to tactical nuclear missiles, the gateway to a full ICBM exchange?
Interesting scenario.

What about Vietnam and Pakistan?

Do you really think China can defeat Australia in a few days? Will S Korea collapse so quickly?

Will China try to stay out of the war and just let Russia fight NATO?

Is it really?
The only time they've ever been used they undeniably saved more lives (both American and Japanese) than they took. They didn't leave Japan a nuclear wasteland. They didn't even manage to create a single kaiju.

The application of two, very small, nuclear weapons turned a fanatical military state into Capitalist pacifists practically over night.

As inventions go, there is a strong argument that nuclear weapons have done far more good than their reputation would imply.
Ike disagreed.


Nuclear weapons may in the immediate future kill hundreds of millions so let’s hold off celebrating H-bombs.
 
Last edited:
Nuclear weapons may in the immediate future kill hundreds of millions so let’s hold off celebrating H-bombs.

Wetting your panties over nuclear war is sooooo '80s.

featured-img-of-post-191976.jpg


Get with the program ... you're supposed to be hiding under the bed because of COVID, Global Warming, and running out of power on your smartphone.
 
In both 1917 Germany and 1942, Germany and Japan, made overtures to the Mexican government to either start an American Front to keep Americans occupied at home or allow Axis forces to pass through their territory unimpeded to start a front of their own.

In both cases, I'm sure Mexico weighed the consequences of both failure and success in those scenarios and decided to politely decline.

Today, Mexico's de-facto government is the drug cartels. They would have to decide if giving up their lucrative American markets for a less lucrative Russian market is worth the risk.

Given how much Americans spend on drugs, I would think they'd be fools to risk that market.

The riskiest thing America could do to jeopardize Mexican loyalty would be to legalize recreational drugs.
No Way Out for José

Mexico is our Ukraine and must be defeated militarily, its oil seized, and its invaders shot dead at the border.
 

Forum List

Back
Top